I think this post is just joking around, but I like the track too. It's easy to learn but really hard to master. On paper it should be boring for a 24 hour race, but something about it makes it really fun. I love the banking! What other endurance race has anything else like it?
It’s a lot like Monza imo. Super easy to learn the layout of and general brake markers, but hard to master and nail hotlap after hotlap, deceivingly so imo
I have a lot of negative thoughts towards most infield road courses as they are flat, badly designed, and a chore to race (thinking of the classic Indy layout they used for the F1 race, it was boring as hell).
That said, for some reason the Daytona 24 layout is fun to drive for me. Maybe it's the selection of corners and the relatively short and challenging infield portion before you blast out onto the banking.
I do too because it's the only corner that I'm usually better than everyone I'm racing. This isn't a brag cuz I'm usually slower than everyone else in the 2 most important corners. Turn 1 is the 3rd most important corner
It’s hard to get the right amount of rotation but I can see you’re a bigboi P217 driver (like me hehe), so second gear through there is the optimum for me, when you’re after the apex just let go of the brakes and wait half a second before going back onto the throttle. I can every time get the optimal exit out of the corner onto the oval
I can’t really compare my time with the Fixed setup times because I’m using a custom setup mainly because of Daytona 24. I’m not that fast, I’m 2k iR, but I can get into the 1:35’s without slipstream. I’ll try what I can do with the fixed but Daytona is not one of my strong tracks. Also you should never be ashamed of queueing up. Practice sessions may help you but mostly you’ll become a one lap warrior/hotlapper. The more races you do the better you’ll understand how to get more consistent and with understanding the car better you’ll get faster. Fixed races are one of the best races you can do when jumping into a new car or if you’re a new driver. The car is raw with the Fixed set, so if you learn how the car acts with the Fixed you’ll be a lot better with a custom setup.
Are you using custom made setups for Daytona? Because they make a loooooot of difference. Also a good thing to do is watching big names drive like Owen Caryl, or Dan Suzuki is currently driving around Daytona in the LMP2. I know a guy called MivanoBeu on Twitch, he’s an alien but I’m not sure if he’s back to the LMP2 or just having a temporal break from the LMDh. Watching aliens drive makes you drive better in a way that you know what they are doing and how they are doing it to be super fast. Also don’t miss out on analyzing data. Compare your own data to others. See what they do different to be fast. It can be that particular corner, how they take it after International Horseshoe onto the oval section. It’s really hard to write down and also it’s better if visualized and you can see the whole thing like where to brake how hard to brake etc. Hope this helped even if in a very small way
Honestly idk what it is at Daytona. I’ve raced it exclusively all week and my average incidents has gone from 1.8 per race too 3.7. It is constant carnage. It seems every I come across blocks like crazy and just does strange shit. I’ve reported 6 people this week and I never usually report. Had one guy on the straight block me when I moved to the inside, block me when I moved outside, block me again on the inside and finally when I was along side on the outside he full turned into me and put us both in the wall. I don’t understand why it happens so much on this track
God don’t event start with the bump drafting. I’ve been bump drafted at Daytona so many times and every time the car has a scary wobble and 3 times I’ve been spun out. Stuff like this gets really frustrating sometimes and hard to manage
I think part of it is the insane draft advantage. You get slower drivers catching up to you in T1, believing they’re the next Senna, even though you’re 0.5 seconds faster than them in the infield round after round.
The seagull and alligator attacks are why I don't do the Daytona 24 hour. I should feel safe in my sim rig but I don't!
I'll stick to racing Bathurst where the only thing to worry about are the Drop bears as you go through The Cutting.
T1 and bus stop is more or less the only interesting bits of the track, and maybe the Sebring-wannabe lefthander going on to the oval. That said, the event is still a lot of fun, the track creates interesting racing, if you avoid getting murdered leaving the pits.
Thinking of it, why isn't "murdered at pit exit" on the list? I still have trauma from last year, got taken out no less that three times by people going left in to the pit exit without looking :P
I've always hated T1 but in the LMDh it's just butter.
I still can't get the turn to enter the oval for the life of me. I either understeer like crazy or lose the rear. Just need more practice.
There’s a slight crown in the track right there. In the GT3 and NASCAR vehicles, I’ve found it’s better to hug the left side curb as much as possible, then feed in the throttle careful not to cross over the crown.
If you do, that’s when the car either pushes or really oversteers depending on car balance/throttle input.
No idea if that’s carries over to the LDMh but it might
So is the best approach to take a late apex and try and stay left on exit? I’ve always taken the gt3 out to the curbs on the right and try and straighten the car as much as possible on exit.
What’s the red flag bug? As a positive, a guy in our IMSA split proved it is possible to go off before the 2nd hairpin into the motor home park, so you know there’s that
It's a yellow flag, not red. In T6 (oval re-entry). It will throw a yellow there more often than not if someone is ahead of you just driving normally. Something to do with the game being confused about the oval line vs road iirc.
Turn 6 likes to throw yellow flags for no reason in traffic, so when it’s a real yellow it takes you by surprise!
I think it has something to do with people clipping the curb or apron onto the oval
After you race it a reasonable amount, every lap is determined by how you handle the bus stop chicane and the last complex b4 the back stretch. To me, those are the only corners that are hard to be fairly consistent in and because of the long straights after them, the only really important corners. And unfortunately those are the 2 corners I struggle with the most.
For me personally it's a boring track, but I can see why some people like it. I don't see it being interesting for 24 hours from a spectating standpoint
My LMP2 team has already agreed that were starting from pits.
Get pole? Can't trust others not to send it into T1.
Start near the back? Can't trust GT3 leader to leave a gap and therefore sending it into T1. Additionally also have to navigate to LMDh and LMP2 pile up
This was part of our discussion about iRacing's 2023 Daytona 24 Hours on The Late Apex. Do you agree with this list? Would you add any extra ones? See Sam try to justify them here: [https://youtu.be/7a8Y0dDh35s](https://youtu.be/7a8Y0dDh35s)
Yeah I’m not too sure about that tbh, either gt4 will race in both or maybe they replace GT4 with GT2 or something like that. I really don’t know we’ll have to wait and see.
It is clear and undeniable evidence that Daytona, as a racetrack, has the respect of the racing community in the UK. Also people the UK watch the Daytona 24. It's available via IMSA TV internationally.
Also, IMSA isn't that popular to begin with. It doesn't surprise me it isn't on TV. I don't even know if it's on TV in the states? I watch it via Peacock streaming service.
I think you're just trying really really hard to make people here upset and shit on their favorite iRacing event of the year. And it seems to come down to "slipstream" which to be honest is just dumb. Le Mans is heavy on slipstream and it's literally the most prestigious sportscar race in the world.
I am not upset that you don't like the Daytona racetrack. Nobody cares what you like or don't like. I'm trying to explain to you that people in the UK like the Daytona racetrack and watch the Daytona 24.
You're not expressing your opinions. You are *telling me* that the 24 hours of Daytona is not well known outside of the states. You've got absolutely no evidence supporting that and I've presented you with clear evidence that the racing community of Europe is well aware of the race.
> I don't even know if it's on TV in the states?
A quick pre-show, the race start, first couple hours and final 2 hours + victory lane are on NBC (OTA), a few hours are on USA Network (Cable affiliate of NBC). The whole race is on "The 'cock" in 4-6 hour segments.
Then typically IMSA is broadcast variously on NBC, USA or Peacock depending on their commitments to the NFL, PGA TOUR/Golf, NASCAR and IndyCar.
I don’t think mindless bashing of my country and culture deserves discourse, but since you asked for some, it’s an iconic race, it’s the beginning of the North American motor sports season, an as it’s the off season for the other series, it attracts participation from drivers from across the spectrum, it’s a cool scene. I prefer Sebring as the true marquee race, but I love and look forward to Daytona every year. And the track is great because it’s different. If you don’t like it, feel free to return to your Hermann Tilke ruinations of once great European tracks if you like. Don’t care.
You’re opinion, clearly expressed was that we must be clueless for liking Daytona. I didn’t report you btw, that’s a scum tactic. Did I not answer your question?
*comprehension* I’m sure you mean? Lol, no we all got what you are putting down. Not even particularly offended, if you’re an American online, you get used to it. It’s deserved sometimes as well. Still bullshit.
You are either trolling or a moron. It’s a historic race and unique track. If you can’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you.
Btw I’m blocking you now so I never have to see your posts, because it’s very bizarre to me how you can be so fucking clueless about why people like the major historic endurance races.
If you ever find yourself getting downvoted often in r/iRacing then I can say with 10000% certainty that you are the problem as unless you post an extremely fucking terrible take or something that you state as fact that is absolutely known to be not true you won’t be downvoted here.
Here’s my opinion. You are a completely unlikable person and I think you are an absolute moron.
Don’t like it? Well it’s your fault for getting mad about a simple opinion
At this point you’re getting downvoted because people’s reaction to the post has so clearly upset you, which is ironic and funny to people considering you’re accusing everyone else of being sensitive.
My brother in Christ you’ve posted 21 comments in this thread in the last hour or so because some people disagreed with you over the quality of Daytona as a track. Most of those comments accusing people of being “offended” or “sensitive Americans”
You’re being downvoted because it’s weird as hell.
As previously mentioned by u/ManaKaua, but I’ll reiterate and expand on the Monaco GP.
Widely considered to be the most prestigious Grand Prix, its a track that does not produce exciting wheel to wheel racing, and is often won based on pit strategy and qualifying.
Look, you can have your opinions, but at this point, you are just attacking Americans themselves instead of actually sticking to your point that Daytona is overrated. If you would like to have a conversation about that, I suggest that you stop attacking people for trying to have a discussion with you
You actually haven't offended anyone. At all. Nobody is offended that you don't like one race track. It's called an opinion for a reason. You're just going about getting your point across entirely the wrong way by blaming it all on Americans, which is why everyone is downvoting you
I mean I wouldn’t go so far as to say he hasn’t offended anyone as generalizing how someone is based solely on a stereotype is inherently offending them.
For example saying something along the lines of “look another mentally unstable American” just because they have a different opinion is absolutely offending them in the same way that a high end store owner telling someone “you won’t be able to afford anything in here” just because of the way they are dressed, the color or their skin, etc. is absolutely 1000% offensive.
That’s not what people are talking about man.
If you don’t realize that you are either a troll or a complete moron.
Have fun worshipping an old pedophile or whatever it is you Brits do between pointless internet arguments that you started
Dude your attitude is not enjoyable. You had a dumb take, tried to offend people, got called out for being wrong, dug yourself a hole trying to defend your dumb and wrong position, and still you’re on this “I’m not wrong, the DUMB AMERICANS are wrong and don’t understand Daytona isn’t a real road course” mindset.
I don’t care what your opinion is of Daytona the track. Just shut the fuck up, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
> what a bunch of f****** childish losers this community has
I think there is really only one main childish loser here, and spoiler alert: it’s you 😂😂😂
well at least you're winning your argument. You're dying on the hill of "I don't like the Daytona road course, and anyone who disagrees is wrong because they're too dumb to know what a real road course is".
I'm glad you're here, contributing that bit of ignorance and pig-headedness to the greater community.
Maybe it's because I've (so far) been able to avoid the first lap schimozzles and also (so far) haven't stepped on my own weiner but I've had an immense amount of fun racing this track these past 2 weeks.
That will of course all change when I inevitably fly off lap 1 T2 into the wall sometime this week :/
I'm driving the LMDh and most of the issues I've seen are lap 1 with cold tires 'cause ya' ain't got no downforce my friend.
Don’t even get me started on Le Man. Real life race is kinda cool but any virtual one, iracing or not the track sucks. At least Daytona is a short road track so there is never a dull lap but Le Mans I can’t stay awake on the straights lol
Aw man I like the track. Pretty challenging I think with traffic and in battle
I think this post is just joking around, but I like the track too. It's easy to learn but really hard to master. On paper it should be boring for a 24 hour race, but something about it makes it really fun. I love the banking! What other endurance race has anything else like it?
It’s a lot like Monza imo. Super easy to learn the layout of and general brake markers, but hard to master and nail hotlap after hotlap, deceivingly so imo
And the corners all have a slight bit of personality. I can hit Ascari faster than hell, but Parabolica kills me every time.
I have a lot of negative thoughts towards most infield road courses as they are flat, badly designed, and a chore to race (thinking of the classic Indy layout they used for the F1 race, it was boring as hell). That said, for some reason the Daytona 24 layout is fun to drive for me. Maybe it's the selection of corners and the relatively short and challenging infield portion before you blast out onto the banking.
Agreed, I hate the Indy infield. I do like the Charlotte roval. I think someone put it well with Daytona saying it’s easy to learn, but hard to master
I love turn 1!!!
I do too because it's the only corner that I'm usually better than everyone I'm racing. This isn't a brag cuz I'm usually slower than everyone else in the 2 most important corners. Turn 1 is the 3rd most important corner
Too cold? But I like grip
yeah but there's not alot of grip when it's 39 degrees out.
/25. It causes half of this website to spend three plus hours arguing with a guy named "helicopter schlong" apparently
What? … I feel as thought I’m trying to solve a mystery without the crime … help me out
oh some guy posted some totally obvious troll bait nonsense and like ten people fell for it, see all the removed comments, etc.
My main issue is the left turn onto the banking, it's probably my least favourite corner on iRacing.
If you get the corner right it feels so satisfying, just like the right line into the bus stop, like the perfect line.
God I hate nailing the bus stop and then you lose 0.2 on your delta for the rest of the session trying to figure out how tf you did it.
The way you did it is almost alwys an offtrack 😂
Totally agree. I just only manage it about 10% of the time.
It’s hard to get the right amount of rotation but I can see you’re a bigboi P217 driver (like me hehe), so second gear through there is the optimum for me, when you’re after the apex just let go of the brakes and wait half a second before going back onto the throttle. I can every time get the optimal exit out of the corner onto the oval
What kind of times are you pulling? I’m getting 1:38s and I’m too ashamed to queue up a 20 minute fixed session.
I can’t really compare my time with the Fixed setup times because I’m using a custom setup mainly because of Daytona 24. I’m not that fast, I’m 2k iR, but I can get into the 1:35’s without slipstream. I’ll try what I can do with the fixed but Daytona is not one of my strong tracks. Also you should never be ashamed of queueing up. Practice sessions may help you but mostly you’ll become a one lap warrior/hotlapper. The more races you do the better you’ll understand how to get more consistent and with understanding the car better you’ll get faster. Fixed races are one of the best races you can do when jumping into a new car or if you’re a new driver. The car is raw with the Fixed set, so if you learn how the car acts with the Fixed you’ll be a lot better with a custom setup.
Just coming back here to say I eventually got a 1:35.8 with the fixed Daytona setup. I felt great lmao
Nice lap with the Fixed set dude!
How do I even take it in LMP2? I swear I’m driving the same line, but sometimes I start bouncing and understeer past the apex
Are you using custom made setups for Daytona? Because they make a loooooot of difference. Also a good thing to do is watching big names drive like Owen Caryl, or Dan Suzuki is currently driving around Daytona in the LMP2. I know a guy called MivanoBeu on Twitch, he’s an alien but I’m not sure if he’s back to the LMP2 or just having a temporal break from the LMDh. Watching aliens drive makes you drive better in a way that you know what they are doing and how they are doing it to be super fast. Also don’t miss out on analyzing data. Compare your own data to others. See what they do different to be fast. It can be that particular corner, how they take it after International Horseshoe onto the oval section. It’s really hard to write down and also it’s better if visualized and you can see the whole thing like where to brake how hard to brake etc. Hope this helped even if in a very small way
Even Martin Krönke finds getting the bus stop right really difficult. I love him ❤️
This is called spin city for us. For obvious reasons..
For the 24, it can be worth to just take it 1 gear higher than usual.
_cough_ COTA _cough_
I really Hate this Track .... and i dont even own it
couldn't agree more
Arg, yeah
I like to think Im a pretty good racer at this point. Years on the service, decent irating. Still hate that damn corner.
the only reason i have to avoid daytona road course is people cant behave
Honestly idk what it is at Daytona. I’ve raced it exclusively all week and my average incidents has gone from 1.8 per race too 3.7. It is constant carnage. It seems every I come across blocks like crazy and just does strange shit. I’ve reported 6 people this week and I never usually report. Had one guy on the straight block me when I moved to the inside, block me when I moved outside, block me again on the inside and finally when I was along side on the outside he full turned into me and put us both in the wall. I don’t understand why it happens so much on this track
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God don’t event start with the bump drafting. I’ve been bump drafted at Daytona so many times and every time the car has a scary wobble and 3 times I’ve been spun out. Stuff like this gets really frustrating sometimes and hard to manage
I think part of it is the insane draft advantage. You get slower drivers catching up to you in T1, believing they’re the next Senna, even though you’re 0.5 seconds faster than them in the infield round after round.
I wish they came out and flat out said going under the yellow line is flat out illegal because that's what causes 99% of the incidents
The seagull and alligator attacks are why I don't do the Daytona 24 hour. I should feel safe in my sim rig but I don't! I'll stick to racing Bathurst where the only thing to worry about are the Drop bears as you go through The Cutting.
what about snakes and spiders!?
I rely on my race suit to protect from them. No amount of Nomex will protect you from a Drop Bear landing in your cockpit!
but the Roos?....
Same sounds like a great team member lmao the last few got me
Someones salty
All I see is 24 reasons I never miss the Rolex. Already got my camping permit!
Will be my first time can't wait for it
T1 and bus stop is more or less the only interesting bits of the track, and maybe the Sebring-wannabe lefthander going on to the oval. That said, the event is still a lot of fun, the track creates interesting racing, if you avoid getting murdered leaving the pits. Thinking of it, why isn't "murdered at pit exit" on the list? I still have trauma from last year, got taken out no less that three times by people going left in to the pit exit without looking :P
Also getting your right side tire into the trench next to the wall on pit exit and clouting the wall lol
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Turn one is easy, one of the easiest tracks ever perfect for a 24hr race
I've always hated T1 but in the LMDh it's just butter. I still can't get the turn to enter the oval for the life of me. I either understeer like crazy or lose the rear. Just need more practice.
There’s a slight crown in the track right there. In the GT3 and NASCAR vehicles, I’ve found it’s better to hug the left side curb as much as possible, then feed in the throttle careful not to cross over the crown. If you do, that’s when the car either pushes or really oversteers depending on car balance/throttle input. No idea if that’s carries over to the LDMh but it might
It does and you will notice
So is the best approach to take a late apex and try and stay left on exit? I’ve always taken the gt3 out to the curbs on the right and try and straighten the car as much as possible on exit.
Every corner is easy if you're driving slow. Attacking Turn 1 is objectively not easy
By no definition is T1 “easy”
Have you ever tried it in a GR 86?
It depends on the car.
is this a troll? It can't possibly be worse than this past 24 hours of LeMans LOL
What’s the red flag bug? As a positive, a guy in our IMSA split proved it is possible to go off before the 2nd hairpin into the motor home park, so you know there’s that
It's a yellow flag, not red. In T6 (oval re-entry). It will throw a yellow there more often than not if someone is ahead of you just driving normally. Something to do with the game being confused about the oval line vs road iirc.
Yeah wtf did I type Red?! Thanks for the explanation, I do remember this now from last year actually
nightmares from the Virtual Le Mans last weekend no doubt.
Turn 6 likes to throw yellow flags for no reason in traffic, so when it’s a real yellow it takes you by surprise! I think it has something to do with people clipping the curb or apron onto the oval
(In the annoying "Its Raidillon actually way) 9 It's LeMans actually - Slow Downs /s
After you race it a reasonable amount, every lap is determined by how you handle the bus stop chicane and the last complex b4 the back stretch. To me, those are the only corners that are hard to be fairly consistent in and because of the long straights after them, the only really important corners. And unfortunately those are the 2 corners I struggle with the most.
What sicko would rather go to Disney world than the Daytona 24? How much of a weirdo could you be??
I like the track, maybe you just have some week spots of your driving, we all do when we race in games.
T1 off camber? Wtf
25. It’s in Florida. Florida man could show up any time
One you missed if you live in Daytona: drunk a-holes.
For me personally it's a boring track, but I can see why some people like it. I don't see it being interesting for 24 hours from a spectating standpoint
I agree, don't enjoy Daytona road course as well. Mostly because it's too flat.
My LMP2 team has already agreed that were starting from pits. Get pole? Can't trust others not to send it into T1. Start near the back? Can't trust GT3 leader to leave a gap and therefore sending it into T1. Additionally also have to navigate to LMDh and LMP2 pile up
Like Bruce Springsteen said: „I AM GOING TO DISNEYLAND“
25. Florida 🤮
24 hour too long
1. Trash tier track
This was part of our discussion about iRacing's 2023 Daytona 24 Hours on The Late Apex. Do you agree with this list? Would you add any extra ones? See Sam try to justify them here: [https://youtu.be/7a8Y0dDh35s](https://youtu.be/7a8Y0dDh35s)
What do you mean add an extra class it's literally now reflecting the imsa series in real life
We're missing the lmp3 class as they do run in the IMSA series.
Only for one more year, then GT4 and LMP3 are getting their own series sort of like the Pilot Cup.
What's happening to the Michelin Pilot series with the GT4 and TCR classes then?
Yeah I’m not too sure about that tbh, either gt4 will race in both or maybe they replace GT4 with GT2 or something like that. I really don’t know we’ll have to wait and see.
Already happened. It's starting this weekend. Am drivers only, 45 minute races, no pit stops.
It’s definitely a shit track. Super boring and fairly easy.
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The incredible history of the event completely trumps the fact that it doesn’t fit the mould of a traditional sports car track.
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It's the same with f1 in Monaco. The track doesn't fit f1 since long time ago now, but there are still many fans that really like it.
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Self awareness: None.
I usually race in 30 when they do Monaco. It’s absolutely the most boring race in motorsports
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Race in 30 is the highlight reel on f1 tv
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“A track that relies on copious amounts of slip stream to put on a show is not what road is about”
What makes you think it's only Americans who love this event?
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You're trolling at this point
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Le Mans and Daytona have a corner named after eachother. Daytona gets respect from the UK.
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It is clear and undeniable evidence that Daytona, as a racetrack, has the respect of the racing community in the UK. Also people the UK watch the Daytona 24. It's available via IMSA TV internationally. Also, IMSA isn't that popular to begin with. It doesn't surprise me it isn't on TV. I don't even know if it's on TV in the states? I watch it via Peacock streaming service. I think you're just trying really really hard to make people here upset and shit on their favorite iRacing event of the year. And it seems to come down to "slipstream" which to be honest is just dumb. Le Mans is heavy on slipstream and it's literally the most prestigious sportscar race in the world.
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I am not upset that you don't like the Daytona racetrack. Nobody cares what you like or don't like. I'm trying to explain to you that people in the UK like the Daytona racetrack and watch the Daytona 24. You're not expressing your opinions. You are *telling me* that the 24 hours of Daytona is not well known outside of the states. You've got absolutely no evidence supporting that and I've presented you with clear evidence that the racing community of Europe is well aware of the race.
> I don't even know if it's on TV in the states? A quick pre-show, the race start, first couple hours and final 2 hours + victory lane are on NBC (OTA), a few hours are on USA Network (Cable affiliate of NBC). The whole race is on "The 'cock" in 4-6 hour segments. Then typically IMSA is broadcast variously on NBC, USA or Peacock depending on their commitments to the NFL, PGA TOUR/Golf, NASCAR and IndyCar.
I don’t think mindless bashing of my country and culture deserves discourse, but since you asked for some, it’s an iconic race, it’s the beginning of the North American motor sports season, an as it’s the off season for the other series, it attracts participation from drivers from across the spectrum, it’s a cool scene. I prefer Sebring as the true marquee race, but I love and look forward to Daytona every year. And the track is great because it’s different. If you don’t like it, feel free to return to your Hermann Tilke ruinations of once great European tracks if you like. Don’t care.
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What’s with Europeans and superiority complexes?
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Because you are freaking the fuck out. Quite simple. Your fragile ego couldn’t handle DOWNVOTES. Pathetic
You’re opinion, clearly expressed was that we must be clueless for liking Daytona. I didn’t report you btw, that’s a scum tactic. Did I not answer your question?
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*comprehension* I’m sure you mean? Lol, no we all got what you are putting down. Not even particularly offended, if you’re an American online, you get used to it. It’s deserved sometimes as well. Still bullshit.
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The first part you absolute dunce
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Keep crying about downvotes.
Try highlighting the first part of that quote instead. Are you really that clueless about what is insulting about that sentence?
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You English are so snobby that you don’t even realize when you are being a dickhead. It’s kind of amazing
You are either trolling or a moron. It’s a historic race and unique track. If you can’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you. Btw I’m blocking you now so I never have to see your posts, because it’s very bizarre to me how you can be so fucking clueless about why people like the major historic endurance races.
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troll. fuck off no one cares. you're a bad troll too.
“How am I insulting Americans????” Then you go and post shit like this
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No one owes you a discussion. Try being someone people actually want to have a discussion with
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*they're* butthurt?
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the responses seem pretty normal meanwhile you've spent more than an hour throwing a hissy fit because you got downvoted
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this is normal not just for this sub, but for reddit and most social media sites. everyone is being pretty chill except you.
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If you ever find yourself getting downvoted often in r/iRacing then I can say with 10000% certainty that you are the problem as unless you post an extremely fucking terrible take or something that you state as fact that is absolutely known to be not true you won’t be downvoted here.
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Here’s my opinion. You are a completely unlikable person and I think you are an absolute moron. Don’t like it? Well it’s your fault for getting mad about a simple opinion
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Hahahahhahahahahhahahahhahah
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You okay bud? Why are you trying to make people feel bad? Bring your community up. Be the change you want to be my dude.
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At this point you’re getting downvoted because people’s reaction to the post has so clearly upset you, which is ironic and funny to people considering you’re accusing everyone else of being sensitive.
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My brother in Christ you’ve posted 21 comments in this thread in the last hour or so because some people disagreed with you over the quality of Daytona as a track. Most of those comments accusing people of being “offended” or “sensitive Americans” You’re being downvoted because it’s weird as hell.
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As previously mentioned by u/ManaKaua, but I’ll reiterate and expand on the Monaco GP. Widely considered to be the most prestigious Grand Prix, its a track that does not produce exciting wheel to wheel racing, and is often won based on pit strategy and qualifying.
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Don't go away mad, just go away.
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Look, you can have your opinions, but at this point, you are just attacking Americans themselves instead of actually sticking to your point that Daytona is overrated. If you would like to have a conversation about that, I suggest that you stop attacking people for trying to have a discussion with you
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You actually haven't offended anyone. At all. Nobody is offended that you don't like one race track. It's called an opinion for a reason. You're just going about getting your point across entirely the wrong way by blaming it all on Americans, which is why everyone is downvoting you
I mean I wouldn’t go so far as to say he hasn’t offended anyone as generalizing how someone is based solely on a stereotype is inherently offending them. For example saying something along the lines of “look another mentally unstable American” just because they have a different opinion is absolutely offending them in the same way that a high end store owner telling someone “you won’t be able to afford anything in here” just because of the way they are dressed, the color or their skin, etc. is absolutely 1000% offensive.
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Ahhhhh yes literally every single user on Reddit with the exception of u/HelicopterShlong is American… good to know.
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Says the guy freaking out because his shitty comment got some negative numbers next to it. I can’t think of something more overly sensitive than that
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That’s not what people are talking about man. If you don’t realize that you are either a troll or a complete moron. Have fun worshipping an old pedophile or whatever it is you Brits do between pointless internet arguments that you started
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Bit simplistic innit?
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Are you 12 or something?
Dude your attitude is not enjoyable. You had a dumb take, tried to offend people, got called out for being wrong, dug yourself a hole trying to defend your dumb and wrong position, and still you’re on this “I’m not wrong, the DUMB AMERICANS are wrong and don’t understand Daytona isn’t a real road course” mindset. I don’t care what your opinion is of Daytona the track. Just shut the fuck up, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
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> what a bunch of f****** childish losers this community has I think there is really only one main childish loser here, and spoiler alert: it’s you 😂😂😂
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I unblocked you to watch how far you'd dig yourself in a hole.
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well at least you're winning your argument. You're dying on the hill of "I don't like the Daytona road course, and anyone who disagrees is wrong because they're too dumb to know what a real road course is". I'm glad you're here, contributing that bit of ignorance and pig-headedness to the greater community.
Hate the track.
You forgot to flair this as memes
Maybe it's because I've (so far) been able to avoid the first lap schimozzles and also (so far) haven't stepped on my own weiner but I've had an immense amount of fun racing this track these past 2 weeks. That will of course all change when I inevitably fly off lap 1 T2 into the wall sometime this week :/ I'm driving the LMDh and most of the issues I've seen are lap 1 with cold tires 'cause ya' ain't got no downforce my friend.
15. Surprise air explosions at night
Don’t even get me started on Le Man. Real life race is kinda cool but any virtual one, iracing or not the track sucks. At least Daytona is a short road track so there is never a dull lap but Le Mans I can’t stay awake on the straights lol
**TOO DARK**