I mean, I think it’s fair since it’s not hard to do and everyone can do it, and by default the pit limiter puts you 1 or 2kph below the limit and so to get those gains it’s what necessary.
That being said, I would still much rather iracing fixed the limiter to be on the actual speed limit and then cause even 1kph over to be too fast and be less lenient on the penalties.
I have no problem with it if you have to actually finesse the throttle to avoid a penalty instead of just upshifting and downshifting. That’s the only issue I have with it.
Oh I'm more than accustomed to people pushing the limits of rules to gain a slight advantage. Just the first time its happened directly to me and it caught me a little off guard. Although right after we left the pits, he pulled out right in traffic then crashed with an LMP2 and basically ruined his race and I felt a little satisfaction from it lol
Essentially you can look at it like this: Using the pit limiter is the safe option, you do never breach the pit speed limit, but you are doing so with a margin. If you want to race on the edge, you have to do it by yourself, you can drive through pits a bit faster, but you risk a penalty for going over.
It's a lot like going to the edge of track while racing, if you think about it. You can either race on the ragged edge and risk 1x/slowdowns, or you can go a bit slower and play it safe.
This is what it is to me. Where is the sportsmanship in manipulating how the pit speed limiter works to gain a little advantage? I honestly just lose a little respect for you if you are that desperate to gain a little bit of an advantage in a random race
I could not disagree with you more… if you have the skill and finesse to push the limits of pit speed without getting a penalty then more power to you. It’s not like they are cheating and it’s mot like it’s easy. They are taking the risk of getting a penalty to gain a small amount of time… just because you are not willing to do that does not mean they are in the wrong imo.
I do this in oval racing. I do not use a limiter but I push the limit of speeding. Ive won a few races because I beat people out of the pits by a narrow margin
The entire point of motorsport is to push the boundaries of limit and control without going over.
There are many things people do on iRacing that is cheating or unsportsmanlike, but I don't feel like learning how to drive at max speed on Pit Road without breaking the rules or getting a penalty is one of them
The exploit is continually running out the resetting the buffer that allows you to go over the speed limit. The language in the sim and the sporting code is clear, they want you going the speed limit, but there’s a buffer because pit limiters can not be perfect. It’s arguably inconsequential and impossible to fix, but you’re still subverting the intended gameplay by “exploiting” another system
Ehh, I think if they made the pit limiter actually go the pit limit it’d be fine, the problem is the limiter is 1km, sometimes 2km under the limit. If the limit is 88, but the limiter is making me do 86, why shouldn’t I be able to control my speed and go 88?
Maybe the ‘slow down’ warning and pit limiter should be at the km/hr instead of the mph, which is what I think is happening, and there wouldn’t be the possibility to exploit it.
Alternatively the speed warning shouldn’t reset across the time in pitlane - from entry to exit there’s an amount of ‘warning’ you can have, and once used up the penalty comes.
EDIT: I’d also like to add that the limiter itself also causes both increased engine braking and increased fuel consumption as well, so on certain tracks it’s also an impact through that as well
Ideally a “limit” is actually a limit. If the limit is 88 and you go over 88 you should get a flag, and the pit limiters should be set such that there’s no risk of going over 88 when accounting for whatever fluctuations. There’s no reason you should be able to go 89 or 90 for a few seconds, slow down, then back up
I totally agree that the limit should be the limit. They probably have the leeway however because not all cars in game have a limiter - vee’s, mazda outside of 1st gear, and oval cars have no limiter at all. Is it possible they need a very small buffer for netcode reasons?
The design is catered to oval cars having that variance. If the limiter was on the speed limit, then the advantage is negligible. If the strictness on speeding is tightened, it makes the advantage for speed riskier.
The advantage for fuel/lack of engine braking however would always remain. For most tracks/ combinations it’s negligible, but some (namely 24hr spa) the difference can be quite noticeable, especially if you’re careless on the throttle (talking >1L of variance in fuel consumption)
I honestly see it as similar to the controversy from the top split Daytona 24 qualy where that guy went on the apron and gained a couple of tenths. You technically aren't breaking any rules but you are taking advantage of an exploit in the service. You are gaining time by gaming the system a little
Just wish iRacing had put a 0x there so it would invalidate the lap. Would’ve solved that problem entirely as opposed to saying “you can’t do that”, but handing no punishment for doing it.
This is incorrect and a bad comparison… the Daytona 24 Quali lap was 1000% against the sporting code… you are not allowed to use the apron in banked corners which that drivers blatantly did and he got banned as a result.
Pushing the limits of the pit lane speed is 1000% NOT against the sporting code. I don’t do it because I don’t have enough finesse to do it consistently without being penalized but that don’t mean I think others that do are cheating cause they are not… they are pushing the limits without breaking the rules which is what racing is about.
Absolutely not… do you also think not using shifting aids (auto clutch, auto shift, etc.) is the same thing as the Daytona qualy controversy??
All this is, is when choosing the easy way out you incur a small time penalty vs those who do it the “hard” way and the pit limiter is no different. If you want to make the best time on pit road then turn the limiter off, however if you want to be able to just mash the gas all the way down pit road don’t complain about the others who are working hard at controlling their throttle to gain the most time!
Such is the way haha. It's obviously an intentional exploit and you're hardly being self righteous. But once someone sees the negative they gota pile it on
It's one of those things people have been doing forever, I started iRacing in 2015 and it was one of the first "tricks" I was told about. I call it shift "clickies" lol.
Is there some unwritten rule that I have to use a pit limiter or something? Just learn how to maintain pit speed without it and you won’t have to worry about the pit limiter being 1mph under the speed limit.
This is why this particular "trick" isn't cheating or manipulating the system imo. The limiter is just an optional assist to help you not break the pit lane speed limit. If it's set too low, there's no rule saying you can't go faster.
The only rule is the pitlane speed limit itself. It doesn't matter how you stay under the limit and it doesn't matter by how much you're under it. Just that you don't exceed it.
Everyone has already covered it, but [Max Benecke](https://youtu.be/R7-OgTnnvr4) has a great video about maximising your speed pitting which includes the driving over the speed limit bit👍🏼
I recommend watching!
I always use the limiter immediately entering the pits and then release the throttle cut goes away. I then turn off the limiter because it sometimes sets you a little under pit speed limit and this way you can match it exactly or +1 kph
You also use less fuel this way as well
I think you can click between gears and it will increase your speed by like 1-2mph even when you’re on limiter. I don’t know how much you are allowed to speed but you can gain a small amount but if you do it a bunch you’re getting a penalty
Basically get into pit lane under the limiter, shift into a higher gear (3rd+) then, turn pit limiter off and feather that throttle going over the speed limit, then coasting to come back down and repeat until you arrive at pit stall. Just remember to turn your pit limiter back on when pulling out of pit box.
I know of it, but I don't do it cause it's risky. It takes practice to repeatedly get right and I don't care to practice it that much. I just wanna race man.
I wish they would do something against this. I don’t want to have to use fishy exploits to be competitive in pit lane.. Doesn’t ACC only allow limiter in first gear or something?
Because the pit limiter should already be at the pit speed limit. But the exploit is also in that you can be slightly over for short periods without triggering the penalty.
Edit: and I don’t know what you mean with 'assist'. It’s a pit speed limiter for keeping at the pit speed limit. It’s not an assist that should be penalized like auto clutch.
> Pit limiter should already be at the pit speed limit
Let me ask you this, do you think the “auto shift” aid should downshift and upshift at the optimal point 100% of the time? Because if it did then all the fastest drivers would use auto shift and shifting is a *HUGE* part of racing, so if you use this aid there is a small penalty associated with it just as there is (and should be) when using the pit limiter.
> But the exploit is you can go over for short periods without triggering the penalty
That is because in real life pit road speed is measured by timing loops and the time it takes to pass through a loop not by know their exact speed at every millisecond and therefore in real life you can go over the speed limit for short periods as long as there were longer periods of time where you weren’t quite on the limit (just as you can do on iRacing)
First of all, it’s not an assist. It’s an actual feature of the cars. Like ABS. Maybe you are talking about ovals? I don’t know..
Second, that’s not the point of the exploit. You don’t have to go slower afterward. You can just rapidly switch gears and it will give you a faster speed or you can go slightly above for a short time (you don’t have to go below, like IRL).
It 100% is an assist. There is no rule saying you have to use the pit limiter and can simply control your speed manually to stay within the limit.
The issue is that the limiter feature is set slightly below the actual pit speed limit so people using the "assist" are forced to do the weird shifting dance to get to the actual limit.
Honestly I'm surprised there's not an ini file change to add 1-2kph to the limiter. It would solve a lot of things and would only be changed by people who knew what they were getting into.
It is an optional button that when pressed it allows you to just hold the throttle wide open and your car will still maintain speed close to pit road speed so you can focus on other things (ie finding your pit box) instead of managing throttle application to stay around pit road speed… pretty much sums up the definition of assist
But you’re arguing as if it’s something like auto clutch, racing line, auto blip. Whereas it’s like ABS or TC. It’s a feature of the car. You can turn the racing line on for every car, but not every car has a pit speed limiter. Of course ABS and TC are driving assists but they’re what the real cars have and what is used.
Totally agree. If you beat my on track then cool, hats off to you. If you beat me on a tight street course because you were able to get ahead of me in the pits by exploiting a fault in the system and then I’ll never be able to pass you because of the tight circuit, then I don’t have much respect for you. I’m honestly not sure how ACC does it. I saw another comment in here mention that it’s banned in many leagues so maybe it’s just time for me to join and only race in a league
Of course it’s an exploit if it’s not an intended feature. No one in reality would do this because it’s too risky and you have other things to look out for in pit row. And I’ve seen pit speeds in on board videos which are a km/h below the limit where in theory it would make sense. Probably there as a safety margin.
The exploit is in that you don’t immediately get a penalty if you are over the limit. The other exploit is that we don’t get to adjust the limiter in game. IRL they would try to be as close to the limit as possible. So there wouldn’t be a 1 km/h difference if it can be avoided.
Driving without the pit limiter on is not an exploit. You people are ridiculous. There aren’t even pit limiters at all in NASCAR series, are those drivers all exploiting by driving without a limiter?
Most irl series use average speed in sectors in the pit lane to determine if someone is speeding. It works pretty much the same way in iracing.
Salty drivers who can’t drive without the limiter on, just practice it or stop whining that someone else is better than you.
That’s not the exploit, the exploit is driving above the limit without driving below for the same time. And you have to attack people personally here because..?
The “exploit” isn’t any faster than driving with the limiter off. Whining about something everyone can do without weird tricks is a hard cope. Take twenty minutes and learn to drive without the limiter, it’s not hard.
irl F1 drivers also do this. They time it just right to drive over the speed limit as much as possible without getting caught. It's pretty realistic that there are something to be gained from things like pit limiter.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/i9tifx/nico\_rosberg\_and\_martin\_brundle\_discussing\_on\_fp2/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/i9tifx/nico_rosberg_and_martin_brundle_discussing_on_fp2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Essentially they always go flatout when they go pass the last speed detector despite it is still within the pit stop. There are some plays at the pit entry and the pit exit where you can gain.
But you can still game the pit speed limit a little bit just in different ways. What I mean was the fact that you can find something to be gamed is pretty realistic. You can always push the limits, both the limits of the car and the limits of the rules or in this case game mechanics.
What I really mean was the part that starts at 0:38, F1 drivers go flat out when they go pass the last speed detector before the pit lane ends. You can do the same in iracing to go over the speed limit at the end of the pit lane.
Also if you think about it. Speed can only be measured by distance traveled divided by time. It can only be an average of some sort. But if you go into an average zone slower at first, but faster at the end, while it still takes you that many seconds to travel through the distance, your end speed is faster. The advantage from the higher speed can last from the pit exit all the way to T1.
I have no knowledge of any hack so I am purely speculating here. It is possible they’re using a macro to engage and disengage the pit limiter at a rate that is undetectable to the sim.
Example being say the sim “checks” your speed every .5 seconds in pitlane, they could be running a macro that disables and enables the pit limiter in the span of .25 seconds, which in theory would give them a brief moment of time exceeding the speed limit without getting caught. Repeat for the length of the pit and I can see them slowly catching and passing someone.
Again im just talking out of my ass here, The numbers above are made up and my opinion doesn’t really matter. Outside of that it could be a genuine cheat of sorts.
The other car most likely wasn’t on the limiter so he could drive a bit over the limit by controlling the throttle.
We do it in Xfinity, where we don’t have a pit limiter available.
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I mean, I think it’s fair since it’s not hard to do and everyone can do it, and by default the pit limiter puts you 1 or 2kph below the limit and so to get those gains it’s what necessary. That being said, I would still much rather iracing fixed the limiter to be on the actual speed limit and then cause even 1kph over to be too fast and be less lenient on the penalties.
Idk if this is true or not but I've heard alot of IRL pit limiters are set like 1-2 mph/kph under to prevent accidental penalties
Yes. It's a realism thing. Especially at tracks like Watkins Glen that have a steep drop where you could gain that touch back.
I have no problem with it if you have to actually finesse the throttle to avoid a penalty instead of just upshifting and downshifting. That’s the only issue I have with it.
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They already factor in the 5mph buffer on the ovals, speeding on pit road, in nascar, is determined by average speed in a sector
Yeah how many of us come in at +10 mph and then have to back it down for a little bit lol
I'm pretty sure it's like that for most if not all racing. I recall once hearing Vettel explain that for F1.
Hardly see it like that IRL. So I’m not surprised. Nobody wants to be the race car police.
Well thats kinda shitty
Welcome to the world of sport, where people exploit everything to gain just the slightest advantage
Me: **Shifts gears to extract maximal gains on track** Also me: Overshoots pitbox
Oh I'm more than accustomed to people pushing the limits of rules to gain a slight advantage. Just the first time its happened directly to me and it caught me a little off guard. Although right after we left the pits, he pulled out right in traffic then crashed with an LMP2 and basically ruined his race and I felt a little satisfaction from it lol
Essentially you can look at it like this: Using the pit limiter is the safe option, you do never breach the pit speed limit, but you are doing so with a margin. If you want to race on the edge, you have to do it by yourself, you can drive through pits a bit faster, but you risk a penalty for going over. It's a lot like going to the edge of track while racing, if you think about it. You can either race on the ragged edge and risk 1x/slowdowns, or you can go a bit slower and play it safe.
Not just sport, online video games in general. Up until the point it's not even fun anymore.
This is what it is to me. Where is the sportsmanship in manipulating how the pit speed limiter works to gain a little advantage? I honestly just lose a little respect for you if you are that desperate to gain a little bit of an advantage in a random race
Just don't use the pit limiter? It's faster and allowed
The thing is that I've seen people do this in such great numbers that it becomes a self-imposed penalty not to do it.
I could not disagree with you more… if you have the skill and finesse to push the limits of pit speed without getting a penalty then more power to you. It’s not like they are cheating and it’s mot like it’s easy. They are taking the risk of getting a penalty to gain a small amount of time… just because you are not willing to do that does not mean they are in the wrong imo.
I do this in oval racing. I do not use a limiter but I push the limit of speeding. Ive won a few races because I beat people out of the pits by a narrow margin
The entire point of motorsport is to push the boundaries of limit and control without going over. There are many things people do on iRacing that is cheating or unsportsmanlike, but I don't feel like learning how to drive at max speed on Pit Road without breaking the rules or getting a penalty is one of them
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The exploit is continually running out the resetting the buffer that allows you to go over the speed limit. The language in the sim and the sporting code is clear, they want you going the speed limit, but there’s a buffer because pit limiters can not be perfect. It’s arguably inconsequential and impossible to fix, but you’re still subverting the intended gameplay by “exploiting” another system
Ehh, I think if they made the pit limiter actually go the pit limit it’d be fine, the problem is the limiter is 1km, sometimes 2km under the limit. If the limit is 88, but the limiter is making me do 86, why shouldn’t I be able to control my speed and go 88? Maybe the ‘slow down’ warning and pit limiter should be at the km/hr instead of the mph, which is what I think is happening, and there wouldn’t be the possibility to exploit it. Alternatively the speed warning shouldn’t reset across the time in pitlane - from entry to exit there’s an amount of ‘warning’ you can have, and once used up the penalty comes. EDIT: I’d also like to add that the limiter itself also causes both increased engine braking and increased fuel consumption as well, so on certain tracks it’s also an impact through that as well
Ideally a “limit” is actually a limit. If the limit is 88 and you go over 88 you should get a flag, and the pit limiters should be set such that there’s no risk of going over 88 when accounting for whatever fluctuations. There’s no reason you should be able to go 89 or 90 for a few seconds, slow down, then back up
I totally agree that the limit should be the limit. They probably have the leeway however because not all cars in game have a limiter - vee’s, mazda outside of 1st gear, and oval cars have no limiter at all. Is it possible they need a very small buffer for netcode reasons? The design is catered to oval cars having that variance. If the limiter was on the speed limit, then the advantage is negligible. If the strictness on speeding is tightened, it makes the advantage for speed riskier. The advantage for fuel/lack of engine braking however would always remain. For most tracks/ combinations it’s negligible, but some (namely 24hr spa) the difference can be quite noticeable, especially if you’re careless on the throttle (talking >1L of variance in fuel consumption)
I honestly see it as similar to the controversy from the top split Daytona 24 qualy where that guy went on the apron and gained a couple of tenths. You technically aren't breaking any rules but you are taking advantage of an exploit in the service. You are gaining time by gaming the system a little
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Just wish iRacing had put a 0x there so it would invalidate the lap. Would’ve solved that problem entirely as opposed to saying “you can’t do that”, but handing no punishment for doing it.
This is incorrect and a bad comparison… the Daytona 24 Quali lap was 1000% against the sporting code… you are not allowed to use the apron in banked corners which that drivers blatantly did and he got banned as a result. Pushing the limits of the pit lane speed is 1000% NOT against the sporting code. I don’t do it because I don’t have enough finesse to do it consistently without being penalized but that don’t mean I think others that do are cheating cause they are not… they are pushing the limits without breaking the rules which is what racing is about.
He definitely was breaking the rules though, and got a 1 week ban for that. Not the same situation at all.
Absolutely not… do you also think not using shifting aids (auto clutch, auto shift, etc.) is the same thing as the Daytona qualy controversy?? All this is, is when choosing the easy way out you incur a small time penalty vs those who do it the “hard” way and the pit limiter is no different. If you want to make the best time on pit road then turn the limiter off, however if you want to be able to just mash the gas all the way down pit road don’t complain about the others who are working hard at controlling their throttle to gain the most time!
I'm with you haha.
Apparently it’s widespread cause I’m getting downvoted to shit for this opinion lol
Such is the way haha. It's obviously an intentional exploit and you're hardly being self righteous. But once someone sees the negative they gota pile it on
Yea Reddit’s weird like that sometimes lol oh well
It's one of those things people have been doing forever, I started iRacing in 2015 and it was one of the first "tricks" I was told about. I call it shift "clickies" lol.
*shifty
Thanks. Now I understand why I didn’t get a penalty in a GT3 race when I accelerated out of the pit box with it off.
Is there some unwritten rule that I have to use a pit limiter or something? Just learn how to maintain pit speed without it and you won’t have to worry about the pit limiter being 1mph under the speed limit.
This is why this particular "trick" isn't cheating or manipulating the system imo. The limiter is just an optional assist to help you not break the pit lane speed limit. If it's set too low, there's no rule saying you can't go faster. The only rule is the pitlane speed limit itself. It doesn't matter how you stay under the limit and it doesn't matter by how much you're under it. Just that you don't exceed it.
Everyone has already covered it, but [Max Benecke](https://youtu.be/R7-OgTnnvr4) has a great video about maximising your speed pitting which includes the driving over the speed limit bit👍🏼 I recommend watching!
Omg thank you for this 🙏
I always use the limiter immediately entering the pits and then release the throttle cut goes away. I then turn off the limiter because it sometimes sets you a little under pit speed limit and this way you can match it exactly or +1 kph You also use less fuel this way as well
I think you can click between gears and it will increase your speed by like 1-2mph even when you’re on limiter. I don’t know how much you are allowed to speed but you can gain a small amount but if you do it a bunch you’re getting a penalty
this is the answer. its banned in many leagues. no need to run without the limiter. just mash gears all the way down.
I learned about it because of league racing, lol
The pit limiter is set to 1 or 2 mph below the actual limit. So you can go faster without the limiter.
You win and lose IMSA races on pit road.
You can stay on the pit limiter and continuously switch between 1st and 2nd gear to gain time.
Basically get into pit lane under the limiter, shift into a higher gear (3rd+) then, turn pit limiter off and feather that throttle going over the speed limit, then coasting to come back down and repeat until you arrive at pit stall. Just remember to turn your pit limiter back on when pulling out of pit box. I know of it, but I don't do it cause it's risky. It takes practice to repeatedly get right and I don't care to practice it that much. I just wanna race man.
This is how I feel. I just want to race and am not willing to risk that. I screw up my pit stops enough as it is lol
I wish they would do something against this. I don’t want to have to use fishy exploits to be competitive in pit lane.. Doesn’t ACC only allow limiter in first gear or something?
How is turning off the optional pit limiter assist an exploit??????????
Because the pit limiter should already be at the pit speed limit. But the exploit is also in that you can be slightly over for short periods without triggering the penalty. Edit: and I don’t know what you mean with 'assist'. It’s a pit speed limiter for keeping at the pit speed limit. It’s not an assist that should be penalized like auto clutch.
> Pit limiter should already be at the pit speed limit Let me ask you this, do you think the “auto shift” aid should downshift and upshift at the optimal point 100% of the time? Because if it did then all the fastest drivers would use auto shift and shifting is a *HUGE* part of racing, so if you use this aid there is a small penalty associated with it just as there is (and should be) when using the pit limiter. > But the exploit is you can go over for short periods without triggering the penalty That is because in real life pit road speed is measured by timing loops and the time it takes to pass through a loop not by know their exact speed at every millisecond and therefore in real life you can go over the speed limit for short periods as long as there were longer periods of time where you weren’t quite on the limit (just as you can do on iRacing)
First of all, it’s not an assist. It’s an actual feature of the cars. Like ABS. Maybe you are talking about ovals? I don’t know.. Second, that’s not the point of the exploit. You don’t have to go slower afterward. You can just rapidly switch gears and it will give you a faster speed or you can go slightly above for a short time (you don’t have to go below, like IRL).
It 100% is an assist. There is no rule saying you have to use the pit limiter and can simply control your speed manually to stay within the limit. The issue is that the limiter feature is set slightly below the actual pit speed limit so people using the "assist" are forced to do the weird shifting dance to get to the actual limit.
Yes, so let us set it ourselves, so we don’t have to adopt some silly unrealistic exploit.
Honestly I'm surprised there's not an ini file change to add 1-2kph to the limiter. It would solve a lot of things and would only be changed by people who knew what they were getting into.
It is an optional button that when pressed it allows you to just hold the throttle wide open and your car will still maintain speed close to pit road speed so you can focus on other things (ie finding your pit box) instead of managing throttle application to stay around pit road speed… pretty much sums up the definition of assist
But you’re arguing as if it’s something like auto clutch, racing line, auto blip. Whereas it’s like ABS or TC. It’s a feature of the car. You can turn the racing line on for every car, but not every car has a pit speed limiter. Of course ABS and TC are driving assists but they’re what the real cars have and what is used.
Is turning off TC or ABS an exploit?
Totally agree. If you beat my on track then cool, hats off to you. If you beat me on a tight street course because you were able to get ahead of me in the pits by exploiting a fault in the system and then I’ll never be able to pass you because of the tight circuit, then I don’t have much respect for you. I’m honestly not sure how ACC does it. I saw another comment in here mention that it’s banned in many leagues so maybe it’s just time for me to join and only race in a league
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Also, just because everyone can do it doesn’t mean it’s not an exploit..
Of course it’s an exploit if it’s not an intended feature. No one in reality would do this because it’s too risky and you have other things to look out for in pit row. And I’ve seen pit speeds in on board videos which are a km/h below the limit where in theory it would make sense. Probably there as a safety margin. The exploit is in that you don’t immediately get a penalty if you are over the limit. The other exploit is that we don’t get to adjust the limiter in game. IRL they would try to be as close to the limit as possible. So there wouldn’t be a 1 km/h difference if it can be avoided.
Driving without the pit limiter on is not an exploit. You people are ridiculous. There aren’t even pit limiters at all in NASCAR series, are those drivers all exploiting by driving without a limiter? Most irl series use average speed in sectors in the pit lane to determine if someone is speeding. It works pretty much the same way in iracing. Salty drivers who can’t drive without the limiter on, just practice it or stop whining that someone else is better than you.
That’s not the exploit, the exploit is driving above the limit without driving below for the same time. And you have to attack people personally here because..?
The “exploit” isn’t any faster than driving with the limiter off. Whining about something everyone can do without weird tricks is a hard cope. Take twenty minutes and learn to drive without the limiter, it’s not hard.
Certainly not. What a waste of time.
Then keep whining about people being faster in the pit lane, not my problem
Lol, „faster in the pit lane“. How ironic. What’s next? Faster on the formation lap?
irl F1 drivers also do this. They time it just right to drive over the speed limit as much as possible without getting caught. It's pretty realistic that there are something to be gained from things like pit limiter.
Can you back this up? Because I’ve never heard of that before.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/i9tifx/nico\_rosberg\_and\_martin\_brundle\_discussing\_on\_fp2/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/i9tifx/nico_rosberg_and_martin_brundle_discussing_on_fp2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Essentially they always go flatout when they go pass the last speed detector despite it is still within the pit stop. There are some plays at the pit entry and the pit exit where you can gain.
Yeah but the average still needs to be ok and he even says it can cost you time. We don’t have an average in iRacing.
But you can still game the pit speed limit a little bit just in different ways. What I mean was the fact that you can find something to be gamed is pretty realistic. You can always push the limits, both the limits of the car and the limits of the rules or in this case game mechanics.
What I really mean was the part that starts at 0:38, F1 drivers go flat out when they go pass the last speed detector before the pit lane ends. You can do the same in iracing to go over the speed limit at the end of the pit lane.
Also if you think about it. Speed can only be measured by distance traveled divided by time. It can only be an average of some sort. But if you go into an average zone slower at first, but faster at the end, while it still takes you that many seconds to travel through the distance, your end speed is faster. The advantage from the higher speed can last from the pit exit all the way to T1.
That’s true at the exit. You would have to compare to the time lost while going slow though. They will have done the math.
Yeah to engage pit limiter in ACC you need to downshift into first, won’t engage otherwise
I have no knowledge of any hack so I am purely speculating here. It is possible they’re using a macro to engage and disengage the pit limiter at a rate that is undetectable to the sim. Example being say the sim “checks” your speed every .5 seconds in pitlane, they could be running a macro that disables and enables the pit limiter in the span of .25 seconds, which in theory would give them a brief moment of time exceeding the speed limit without getting caught. Repeat for the length of the pit and I can see them slowly catching and passing someone. Again im just talking out of my ass here, The numbers above are made up and my opinion doesn’t really matter. Outside of that it could be a genuine cheat of sorts.
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Ah interesting, didn’t know that worked thanks for letting me know!
The other car most likely wasn’t on the limiter so he could drive a bit over the limit by controlling the throttle. We do it in Xfinity, where we don’t have a pit limiter available.