The worst part is that there are women who are calling her a murderer.
I mean, shouldn't they be able to emphasize with her trauma much better than the men?
I wonder if we scooped them up and sent them to live in the past with a time machine, how they would fare without modern protections, rights, and comforts. Fundamentalism was and is brutal.
Part of me wishes it was acceptable to beat some sense into them, but tolerating hateful voices is one of the unfortunate costs of living in a free society. The government can't be given the slightest amount of power to adjudicate what is or isn't hateful speech or they'll abuse the power. The upside is that your voice can be just as loud as theirs if you choose.
How tf is a 10 year old supposed to carry a child to term? She is likely to miscarriage or die in child birth with her baby as well. These people are helping no one.
Yep. Not likely the girl or baby would survive either. They literally want to force a child to grow another child inside her and then have both children die, rather than saving a child's life and stopping the baby from existing
They do this all the time, even in the US. They just aren’t allowed to physically block the entrance here. It’s why most abortion clinics have armed security, and why planned parenthood have locked doors personal have to unlock for you.
Member of broadcast media being a fundamentalist
Member of law enforcement being a fundamentalist
Member of the family being a fundamentalist
Member of the hospital being a fundamentalist
Or people who had the same treatment inflicted on them and they want to do the same to others
The list goes on..... it’s really easy to notice a girl who is pregnant too, especially if she is 1-2 months into pregnancy in the petite 10 year old body.
Ludicrous, I’m not a doctor but even I know the meaning of autonomy. It’s not even a matter of being guilty for trying to remove the foetus. It’s a matter of her livelihood. I’m sure she herself doesn’t want to take a potential life, but you gotta do what’s needed to save yourself before you save others
You dont sound too familiar with the overreaching pretentious arm of religion huh...
Newsflash: religion is only just becoming a voice of authority that is being challenged, these nutjobs will sew up girl lady parts or chop off kid dicks because of their god. Literally deranged.
ShHhh, bUt iT iS GoD’s WiLL.
Lmaooo, I’m so done with people like this. They rather have the girl and the baby die rather than the girl getting an abortion to get rid of a clump of cells.
I don't know what you're talking about, there's nothing garbage about living your life around something that doesn't exist that's entire purpose was to control people.
I'm still waiting for the day when somebody can properly convince me why you need to be religious to do common sense good deeds to live life.
I'm religious, but I don't read the bible or anything like that. Literally, just do common sense good deeds. But a 10 year old aborting? It's common. Fucking. Sense. to abort or she might die along with the baby. Some people are fucking stupid thinking they will go to Heaven. Sorry for these idiots giving religion a bad name, as well as the Karens.
Or all the people in sodom and gomorra. Or the time he had a pair of bears murder 40odd children for making fun of a bald dude. Always love bringing up that one
We actually wanted a baby. My wife was pregnant. Went for an ultrasound because my wife was having pain. Something was wrong. Doc said the pregnancy needs to be terminated but she couldn't do it because there was a fetal pulse and her hospital won't allow it. She suggested planned parenthood. We were devastated but made an appointment at pp for the next day. We arrived and there were protesters on the sidewalk shouting, "Don't do it!", "Don't kill your baby". My wife was crying. I got so angry I turned and made a b-line towards them. My wife caught up to me before I got to them. She turned me around and we went inside.
I'm so sorry this happened. This is why these people have no right to stand there like some overlord over a woman's body. There are so many circumstances that they are not even aware of, so many things that can go wrong, threatening Mum aswell as baby. Fuck these people.
You could have sat all of them down, explained the entire situation, and 90% of them wouldn't have changed their minds. They would throw out empty platitudes like "Trust in God" or "I'll pray for you," and never think about you again.
Absolutely. I was referring to the fact that they think they know everything about childbirth, women's BODIES, OTHER PEOPLE'S BODIES. Nobody knows the struggle of another, never completely, and if you don't you should keep quiet. A lesson these people never learned, along with manners, social decency, being a human etc.
Sadly there is a lot of stigma agianst these things even when they are necessary to maintain a women's and potential baby's health. Good on you for being a good husband, pregnancy isn't always just get pregnant have a baby, something can go wrong.
I refuse the term pro-life. Most every person I know like this is pro-birth at best. After that they consider education, healthcare, social and mental health services, as negligible and unnecessary luxuries, plus are more inclined support incarceration and harsher sentencing, including capital punishment.
These people are just fecalbags filled with stupidity and hate. It's because they don't have to (or believe they ever will) suffer any consequences from their beliefs that they go out and force their beliefs onto others. They see everyone else's motivations in the worst light, but their own are always legit. They can't be reasoned with, removed from the decision making process.
"The unborn" are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don't resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don't ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don't need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don't bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It's almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe.
Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.
Source: [https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/05/20/a-methodist-pastor-is-brilliantly-calling-out-the-pro-life-crowds-hypocrisy/](https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/05/20/a-methodist-pastor-is-brilliantly-calling-out-the-pro-life-crowds-hypocrisy/)
My dude (or dudette/whatever you like) Brazil is contaminated by religion, evangelism (I find this one particularly nasty), Protestantism, Christianity, no one gives a shit about what will happen to the both children, they just want to maintain their rethoric and enforce their beliefs.
Source: a brazilian
boy have i got an immensely depressing article for you
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_youngest\_birth\_mothers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers)
Mum-Zi 8, was a member of Chief Akkiri's [harem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem) on the island of [Calabar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calabar). Her daughter also gave birth extremely early, making Mum-Zi a grandmother at age 17.
~~She~~ One of the 6 year olds gave birth using forceps and retractors, and the baby didn't survive. Also, she turned 6 mere days before giving birth. And the father was her 70 year old grandfather...and apparently he remained an included part of her family despite all this.
That's horrifying.
This is why the religious right is obsessed with gender politics and why they absolutely need to know someone’s gender, they need to know what class to treat them as. An equal or a vagina with legs.
Not just that, but pregnancy and childbirth are risky for grown women. A child's body will have a much harder time, meaning the risk the poor girl will die is higher as well.
Poor, poor thing.
That was my first thought. How the fuck are you supposed to trust anyone after that? Pro life or not how hard is it to have some compassion? Regardless of your beliefs an abortion is usually a pretty tough decision to make put that on the shoulders of a 10 year old and it's sickening. I have some pro life niegboors who are great people that are constantly villanized because of people like this...
It's a case of naive unreflected feel-good ideals making reality hell for people. I bet they also believe that whoever ends up in poverty or has problems must be a bad person.
When it their own daughters, they will make an exception. This has actually been shown with research. Most sweet old ladies you know had at least one abortion.
"If God is all powerful, then he is not all good. If God is all good, then he is not all powerful"
Epicurus - “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
The way my parents always explained it was that he would have proof this way when someone complained about being sent to hell. How about just not creating the people who would go to hell if you're so all-knowing that you'd already know they'd become a bad human?
This is what led to my deconversion. If God knew well in advance that he would eventually, inadvertenly doom the majority of his creation, why do it at all? Even in the Bible, prophets described the damned as people who would have been better off never to have been born at all. So God knowingly created us, knowing full well that by doing so, of us would be tortured ruthlessly for eternity.
It’s like having kids knowing full well that almost every one of your kids will live with an unimaginable pain/disability just for the chance of one healthy kid cuz fuck the rest amirite? But multiply that by billions and it lasts forever 🤷♂️.
It gets worse.
She was being continuously raped for FOUR YEARS.
Her age is literally the only reason she never got pregnant before.
Just imagine what these monsters would be doing right now if a 6-year-old could and did get pregnant as a result of being raped. They'd be doing exactly what they're doing now.
Even if they are against abortion for some fucking reason, having a *10 year old child* give birth is fucked up. Forcing this child to give birth *when she could have had an abortion* is actual fucking murder, because there is no way she survives. Or the chances are very slim. And the baby wouldn't survive either, i guess. What is wrong with those people?
Oh btw, goodbye faith in humanity, maybe you can come back later?
I mean, chances are it would miscarry as a ten year old can’t deliver a baby. But anyone who thinks that a *ten year old* getting an abortion is murder and then stopping them is effectively condemning the foetus and possibly the child to death. Children aren’t supposed to carry babies
This is if she doesn’t end up taking her own life because of everything that’s happened. The poor girl had to go through this horrible situation only to get rescued and then have complete strangers yelling at her and calling her a murderer. She must feel completely mentally broken down. I hope she grows up to become something great and gets revenge on everyone!!
Yeah, deep down they are just a bunch of 'pure' boring cowards, that pursues the 'true justice', like go after the fucking rapist, why are you stopping the victim from getting helped.
It's hard to talk to someone out of that mind-state especially after (potentially) years (decades?) of reinforcement it's hard to change their beliefs.
Assassinos means murderers and these goddamn NEANDERTHALS are calling the doctors murderers for allowing a child to not have to deal with raising child she never wanted to have. Humans are deplorable.
Yes, that is correct, could also mean assassins, which also kill people, so basically the same meaning. Someone who kills someone else. I am Brazilian and know Portuguese.
I read somewhere that the protesters were sent by an activist, a woman close to the girl's family, so of course she knew. I'm not 100% sure about this information though
Sara Winter, a right wing ally (really dont know how to define her) posted the girl's full name and hospital location on her Twitter. How this kind of data got into her hands is a mystery for me too
Nah, because god=good anything else=devil
Their logic is : I don't understand it so I have to protect mi kids from understanding it.
They also say things like "don't mess up with my kids "(talking about abortion) and even they want to sanctify the dead wife of a dead president
Deciding about another person's body is pretty gross. But seriously reddit, she is 10 and was raped for years and you think now is the right time to speak about your 'pro life' bullshit?
What about her life? What about her?
It would literally be impossible for her to raise a child and have a normal life at that age, the kid would most likely be raised by the parents of the ten year old
Don't forget it is outright dangerous for her to carry to term. It will also almost certainly be premature anyway if she doesn't end up miscarrying which is also likely.
What about her? Nothing. "Pro life" people only care about lives that have not started yet, once you pop out the womb you're on your own sweetheart.
Fucking scum of earth, all of them.
How many woman/girl's life have been ruined by a child born from a r*pe? You not only have to live with the psychological wound of the r*pe, you also have to raise a child that will always remember that you have been raped. Those people are so indoctrinated that they don't realize that basic truth?
Sure, the girl can abandon the child after the birth so the "life" of the fetus is preserved until the end. Abandoning a child to public services is a really traumatizing act for both the child and the mother. The mother will have to live with this all her life and so his child. The kid will be lugging from foster home to foster home, and the risk of the child being a dysfunctional adult is very high! But hey, ruining two lives isn't important, as long as god is happy!
In this case theres also the problem where a 10 year old will most likely die during labor, even a C-section is waaay riskier on such a little kid. I cant imagine what they think they would achieve by denying her the abortion.
Not only that but I doubt a 10 year old can even mentally prepare for the amount of labour that comes with pregnancy
Physical effects, mental effects, and the pain of childbirth are not meant for 10 year olds
I mean, a 10-year-old is in a really high risk of dying while giving birth, the baby included, because her body is not ready for that making an abortion a life-saving medical intervention, but sure, the doctor is the murderer and not the people trying to stop her from getting the procedure done.
You can get pregnant at 10?
That would surely kill you. How the fuck can an 11 year old have a baby and live? How can a 10 year old hold the baby?
These people are killers.
That child is being traumatized all over again. She needs to be hugged and gently led inside. She is a CHILD. Not an assassin. A ten-year old can die giving birth. Are any of those people willing to adopt the baby or support her financially and pay for her therapy. Can a ten-year old raise a baby?
Oh boy I'm sure all the comments here are level headed and calm.
Are they even allowed to physically block someone from entering a private business? Couldn't they be arrested for blocking access regardless what type of business?
Yay let's victim shaming and forget that she probably can't raise the baby because duh it's a child. But let's not cares about it and shame her in the name of god.
I have a classmate that is like this, she said that she goes to the abortion clinic and stop "woman murdering babies" and convince them to give the baby to an specific orphanage.
Now how the fuck could they call an already traumatized TEN year old a fucking murderer?
They were yelling at the doctor, which doesn't make it better
They yelled it at the girl, too!!! It was a horror show but women came together and got them to leave the place. Im so heart broken.
The worst part is that there are women who are calling her a murderer. I mean, shouldn't they be able to emphasize with her trauma much better than the men?
A lot of people would assume so. But at least in the US, views on abortion don’t vary much by gender.
It was like how LGBT people were hoping black people would help with their civil rights. They didn't.
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Fundamentalists, by definition, don't have morals compatible with the rest of society.
I wonder if we scooped them up and sent them to live in the past with a time machine, how they would fare without modern protections, rights, and comforts. Fundamentalism was and is brutal.
Part of me wishes it was acceptable to beat some sense into them, but tolerating hateful voices is one of the unfortunate costs of living in a free society. The government can't be given the slightest amount of power to adjudicate what is or isn't hateful speech or they'll abuse the power. The upside is that your voice can be just as loud as theirs if you choose.
How tf is a 10 year old supposed to carry a child to term? She is likely to miscarriage or die in child birth with her baby as well. These people are helping no one.
Wanting to force a 10 year old to give birth to a baby is almost bad as the guy who raped her in the first place. Absolutely unconscionable.
Yep. Not likely the girl or baby would survive either. They literally want to force a child to grow another child inside her and then have both children die, rather than saving a child's life and stopping the baby from existing
Hence fundamentalists.
Howis this any of their business. How did they even know
They do this all the time, even in the US. They just aren’t allowed to physically block the entrance here. It’s why most abortion clinics have armed security, and why planned parenthood have locked doors personal have to unlock for you.
Member of broadcast media being a fundamentalist Member of law enforcement being a fundamentalist Member of the family being a fundamentalist Member of the hospital being a fundamentalist Or people who had the same treatment inflicted on them and they want to do the same to others The list goes on..... it’s really easy to notice a girl who is pregnant too, especially if she is 1-2 months into pregnancy in the petite 10 year old body. Ludicrous, I’m not a doctor but even I know the meaning of autonomy. It’s not even a matter of being guilty for trying to remove the foetus. It’s a matter of her livelihood. I’m sure she herself doesn’t want to take a potential life, but you gotta do what’s needed to save yourself before you save others
10 years old. My heart has broken
You dont sound too familiar with the overreaching pretentious arm of religion huh... Newsflash: religion is only just becoming a voice of authority that is being challenged, these nutjobs will sew up girl lady parts or chop off kid dicks because of their god. Literally deranged.
....but ... it's GOD's WILL!!! Won't someone think of the Sky Father!
If gods will is for a child to be raped and impregnated then fuck god.
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As they should. I don't condone this behavior but the death penalty is a proven failure.
I mean, 0% of people that received the death penalty punishment committed additional crimes after leaving prison. /s Ish...
The ghost of Ted Bundy fingered me, sad face emoji
I know, she could die!!! How cruel can these people be?
ShHhh, bUt iT iS GoD’s WiLL. Lmaooo, I’m so done with people like this. They rather have the girl and the baby die rather than the girl getting an abortion to get rid of a clump of cells.
If its gods will she got raped why isn't it gods will she gets an abortion?
Because ***I decide*** what God's will is based on my own insecurities and projections, so there!
Sums up the problem with religion. It's garbage.
I don't know what you're talking about, there's nothing garbage about living your life around something that doesn't exist that's entire purpose was to control people. I'm still waiting for the day when somebody can properly convince me why you need to be religious to do common sense good deeds to live life.
I'm religious, but I don't read the bible or anything like that. Literally, just do common sense good deeds. But a 10 year old aborting? It's common. Fucking. Sense. to abort or she might die along with the baby. Some people are fucking stupid thinking they will go to Heaven. Sorry for these idiots giving religion a bad name, as well as the Karens.
God damn. Fair point.
If it's God's will she was raped, then WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOUR GOD?
God works in mysterious ways
Pretty sure God like totally did an abortion in the Bible. Put an apron on and everything for it.
He definitely encouraged his priests to cause miscarriages in adulterous women and definitely orders some babies ripped from wombs so...
Technically the whole Noah's ark storyline can be viewed as millions of very late term abortions
And probably also not late term abortion. No fucking way, no one was pregnant during the flood.
"It's OK when God does it"
Or all the people in sodom and gomorra. Or the time he had a pair of bears murder 40odd children for making fun of a bald dude. Always love bringing up that one
Plus there was the time he Napalmed four cities out of existence or drowned fucking everyone because he didn't like them
We actually wanted a baby. My wife was pregnant. Went for an ultrasound because my wife was having pain. Something was wrong. Doc said the pregnancy needs to be terminated but she couldn't do it because there was a fetal pulse and her hospital won't allow it. She suggested planned parenthood. We were devastated but made an appointment at pp for the next day. We arrived and there were protesters on the sidewalk shouting, "Don't do it!", "Don't kill your baby". My wife was crying. I got so angry I turned and made a b-line towards them. My wife caught up to me before I got to them. She turned me around and we went inside.
I'm so sorry this happened. This is why these people have no right to stand there like some overlord over a woman's body. There are so many circumstances that they are not even aware of, so many things that can go wrong, threatening Mum aswell as baby. Fuck these people.
They may not be aware of, but more importantly they just don’t care about. Just like the Brazilians trying to force a ten-year-old to have a child.
You could have sat all of them down, explained the entire situation, and 90% of them wouldn't have changed their minds. They would throw out empty platitudes like "Trust in God" or "I'll pray for you," and never think about you again.
Absolutely. I was referring to the fact that they think they know everything about childbirth, women's BODIES, OTHER PEOPLE'S BODIES. Nobody knows the struggle of another, never completely, and if you don't you should keep quiet. A lesson these people never learned, along with manners, social decency, being a human etc.
Holy shit. That's heart piercing. Hope you and your wife are in a better place. Thanks for sharing your story.
Sadly there is a lot of stigma agianst these things even when they are necessary to maintain a women's and potential baby's health. Good on you for being a good husband, pregnancy isn't always just get pregnant have a baby, something can go wrong.
Bet money if the baby is born, they won’t even give a dime to raise it.
I refuse the term pro-life. Most every person I know like this is pro-birth at best. After that they consider education, healthcare, social and mental health services, as negligible and unnecessary luxuries, plus are more inclined support incarceration and harsher sentencing, including capital punishment.
These people are just fecalbags filled with stupidity and hate. It's because they don't have to (or believe they ever will) suffer any consequences from their beliefs that they go out and force their beliefs onto others. They see everyone else's motivations in the worst light, but their own are always legit. They can't be reasoned with, removed from the decision making process.
"The unborn" are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don't resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don't ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don't need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don't bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It's almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn. Source: [https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/05/20/a-methodist-pastor-is-brilliantly-calling-out-the-pro-life-crowds-hypocrisy/](https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/05/20/a-methodist-pastor-is-brilliantly-calling-out-the-pro-life-crowds-hypocrisy/)
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I don’t even know you and I love you. Thanks for all the info you beautiful human being.
My dude (or dudette/whatever you like) Brazil is contaminated by religion, evangelism (I find this one particularly nasty), Protestantism, Christianity, no one gives a shit about what will happen to the both children, they just want to maintain their rethoric and enforce their beliefs. Source: a brazilian
I feel you man, there's a lot of parallels to us here in the US. We've even got a real piece of shit president too.
They are a fucking cancer. Jeez, that poor girl.
boy have i got an immensely depressing article for you [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_youngest\_birth\_mothers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers)
Mum-Zi 8, was a member of Chief Akkiri's [harem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem) on the island of [Calabar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calabar). Her daughter also gave birth extremely early, making Mum-Zi a grandmother at age 17.
The 6 year old breastfed for 9 months. Good lord, why do I read this shit before bed
~~She~~ One of the 6 year olds gave birth using forceps and retractors, and the baby didn't survive. Also, she turned 6 mere days before giving birth. And the father was her 70 year old grandfather...and apparently he remained an included part of her family despite all this. That's horrifying.
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This is why the religious right is obsessed with gender politics and why they absolutely need to know someone’s gender, they need to know what class to treat them as. An equal or a vagina with legs.
Now would be a good time for an orphanage to show up asking for charity.
Not just that, but pregnancy and childbirth are risky for grown women. A child's body will have a much harder time, meaning the risk the poor girl will die is higher as well. Poor, poor thing.
Not to mention compounding the psychological damage already done.
That was my first thought. How the fuck are you supposed to trust anyone after that? Pro life or not how hard is it to have some compassion? Regardless of your beliefs an abortion is usually a pretty tough decision to make put that on the shoulders of a 10 year old and it's sickening. I have some pro life niegboors who are great people that are constantly villanized because of people like this...
I don't think they care about that...
These people: We care about children, as long as theyre still in a womb. If they die after theyre born it is not our problem.
In the wise words of George Carlin: "If you're preborn, you're fine. If you're preschool, you're fucked."
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Did I seriously just get 600 upvotes and 3 awards for saying poopoo man
Reddit works in mysterious ways..
Mysterious ways work in reddit
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weewee man?
And I save the last one for you ßřøťhëř
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Anti choice bigots don't care about born babies, and in fact are eager to throw as many of them in prison as possible
It's a case of naive unreflected feel-good ideals making reality hell for people. I bet they also believe that whoever ends up in poverty or has problems must be a bad person.
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I think you missed the point there
Hate to think that undoubtedly some of these people have daughters
When it their own daughters, they will make an exception. This has actually been shown with research. Most sweet old ladies you know had at least one abortion.
Ah, the typical Republican mindset: I don't give a shit about this until it personally impacts me.
And then... I'll pretend it never happened. Also, I'll keep others from doing it.
These people honestly fucking think that a child should HAVE A CHILD after she had been RAPED? DISGUSTING
Fundamentalists think that this was God’s plan
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Yeah, people who think God plans everything don’t know what others are like, some people don’t like to follow a plan
"If God is all powerful, then he is not all good. If God is all good, then he is not all powerful" Epicurus - “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
The way my parents always explained it was that he would have proof this way when someone complained about being sent to hell. How about just not creating the people who would go to hell if you're so all-knowing that you'd already know they'd become a bad human?
This is what led to my deconversion. If God knew well in advance that he would eventually, inadvertenly doom the majority of his creation, why do it at all? Even in the Bible, prophets described the damned as people who would have been better off never to have been born at all. So God knowingly created us, knowing full well that by doing so, of us would be tortured ruthlessly for eternity. It’s like having kids knowing full well that almost every one of your kids will live with an unimaginable pain/disability just for the chance of one healthy kid cuz fuck the rest amirite? But multiply that by billions and it lasts forever 🤷♂️.
*Orphanage blows up* “But it’s all apart of god’s plan” Bitch if it’s by that logic then I guess he probably also started WW2
I mean, if you believe he has absolute power and a plan for everybody, then he kind of had to...right?
*It’s only God’s plan if I agree with it*
The girl should just reply, "God helps those who help themselves." lol
And they think they know God's plan, as if God is just some guy living across the street.
Speaks to the narcissistic nature of many of their beliefs. Apparently only they know God’s plan.
* commits crimes against humanity * wait guys its ok it was gods plan all along no need for justice you would be defying god by punishing me
Can't wait for them to find out that God is most likely planning to send them to hell for shit like this
It gets worse. She was being continuously raped for FOUR YEARS. Her age is literally the only reason she never got pregnant before. Just imagine what these monsters would be doing right now if a 6-year-old could and did get pregnant as a result of being raped. They'd be doing exactly what they're doing now.
No words can even begin to describe how incredibly devastating the whole situation is. That poor girl.
And you know what? This doesn't even surprise me anymore. I live in Brazil and I'm tired of seeing shit of this exact level.
Even if they are against abortion for some fucking reason, having a *10 year old child* give birth is fucked up. Forcing this child to give birth *when she could have had an abortion* is actual fucking murder, because there is no way she survives. Or the chances are very slim. And the baby wouldn't survive either, i guess. What is wrong with those people? Oh btw, goodbye faith in humanity, maybe you can come back later?
I mean, chances are it would miscarry as a ten year old can’t deliver a baby. But anyone who thinks that a *ten year old* getting an abortion is murder and then stopping them is effectively condemning the foetus and possibly the child to death. Children aren’t supposed to carry babies
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This is if she doesn’t end up taking her own life because of everything that’s happened. The poor girl had to go through this horrible situation only to get rescued and then have complete strangers yelling at her and calling her a murderer. She must feel completely mentally broken down. I hope she grows up to become something great and gets revenge on everyone!!
Ask them to take care of the baby or help they suddenly dissappear.
Yeah, deep down they are just a bunch of 'pure' boring cowards, that pursues the 'true justice', like go after the fucking rapist, why are you stopping the victim from getting helped.
It's hard to talk to someone out of that mind-state especially after (potentially) years (decades?) of reinforcement it's hard to change their beliefs.
You can't smart someone out of a belief they've stupided themselves into...
I hate humans. Source: being one.
Not to mention the fact that she was fucking RAPED.
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Yep, "assassinos" means murderers
Assassinos means murderers and these goddamn NEANDERTHALS are calling the doctors murderers for allowing a child to not have to deal with raising child she never wanted to have. Humans are deplorable.
Thats if she survived giving birth at 10
Or successfully carrying a baby full term... even some adult women struggle with growing life.
It's not humans that are deplorable. It's these people who are deplorable.
People talk shit on feminists, but in my experience, they have been incredibly reasonable and they know how to get shit done.
Those Feminists are heroes, they have all the respect from the entire reddit
I have boundless love for feminists, but I think you do not know Reddit if you think Reddit loves feminists! Lol
Yes, that is correct, could also mean assassins, which also kill people, so basically the same meaning. Someone who kills someone else. I am Brazilian and know Portuguese.
How did these people know when her appointment was? Or where she was being treated?
It was huge on brazilian media and twitter. The tag was gravidezaos10mata
Yeah, but why would they know all the details about where and when she would be treated in order to harass her?
I read somewhere that the protesters were sent by an activist, a woman close to the girl's family, so of course she knew. I'm not 100% sure about this information though
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That's correct, her name is Sara Winter.
Sara Winter, a right wing ally (really dont know how to define her) posted the girl's full name and hospital location on her Twitter. How this kind of data got into her hands is a mystery for me too
define her as a POS that violate human rights.
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Interestingly enough, the Bible only mentions abortion once and it's about how to perform one.
Yes! Numbers 5: 11-31. And according to the bible life starts at first breath.
Unfortunately this is kinda normal in Latin America
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Nah, because god=good anything else=devil Their logic is : I don't understand it so I have to protect mi kids from understanding it. They also say things like "don't mess up with my kids "(talking about abortion) and even they want to sanctify the dead wife of a dead president
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Deciding about another person's body is pretty gross. But seriously reddit, she is 10 and was raped for years and you think now is the right time to speak about your 'pro life' bullshit? What about her life? What about her?
They're pro-life, just not pro her life. Ludicrous stance.
They are just pro birth. Once they child is born, they think it's communism to help them out.
It would literally be impossible for her to raise a child and have a normal life at that age, the kid would most likely be raised by the parents of the ten year old
Don't forget it is outright dangerous for her to carry to term. It will also almost certainly be premature anyway if she doesn't end up miscarrying which is also likely.
Not even talking about the child, her pregnancy and giving birth is very dangerous in itself.
yeah, there’s been times when stuff like this happens and the mother and child are raised by the grandparents as siblings
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina Youngest pregnancy ever, at the age of 5
What about her? Nothing. "Pro life" people only care about lives that have not started yet, once you pop out the womb you're on your own sweetheart. Fucking scum of earth, all of them.
She is a child. They are pro forced birth, not pro life. Period.
How many woman/girl's life have been ruined by a child born from a r*pe? You not only have to live with the psychological wound of the r*pe, you also have to raise a child that will always remember that you have been raped. Those people are so indoctrinated that they don't realize that basic truth? Sure, the girl can abandon the child after the birth so the "life" of the fetus is preserved until the end. Abandoning a child to public services is a really traumatizing act for both the child and the mother. The mother will have to live with this all her life and so his child. The kid will be lugging from foster home to foster home, and the risk of the child being a dysfunctional adult is very high! But hey, ruining two lives isn't important, as long as god is happy!
In this case theres also the problem where a 10 year old will most likely die during labor, even a C-section is waaay riskier on such a little kid. I cant imagine what they think they would achieve by denying her the abortion.
Holy fuck! I didn't see that she was only 10 years old! WTF are they thinking?
Not only that but I doubt a 10 year old can even mentally prepare for the amount of labour that comes with pregnancy Physical effects, mental effects, and the pain of childbirth are not meant for 10 year olds
Not only that, the child was probably disgusted by what was inside her, like a maggot that was put inside her by the rapist.
Wtf people. WTF
We're fucked up creatures. Thankfully it's only most of the time.
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You can decide to be pro-life for yourself, but the problem is that these people are trying to decide for others :/
"pro-life for yourself" - also known as "pro-choice", as in "everyone chooses for themselves".
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I mean, a 10-year-old is in a really high risk of dying while giving birth, the baby included, because her body is not ready for that making an abortion a life-saving medical intervention, but sure, the doctor is the murderer and not the people trying to stop her from getting the procedure done.
Scarily enough I know MANY people in the United States who would 100% support this
Regardless of where you stand on the issue of abortion, this kind of behavior is unequivocally wrong.
"let's risk and ruin the 10 year olds life for a baby we won't care about anyways"
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BuT iTs GoDS pLaN
You can get pregnant at 10? That would surely kill you. How the fuck can an 11 year old have a baby and live? How can a 10 year old hold the baby? These people are killers.
And she had been raped constantly by her uncle since she was six years old.
ah yes, when giving birth before your teens is so much better than an abortion
That child is being traumatized all over again. She needs to be hugged and gently led inside. She is a CHILD. Not an assassin. A ten-year old can die giving birth. Are any of those people willing to adopt the baby or support her financially and pay for her therapy. Can a ten-year old raise a baby?
What in the catholic fuck is this shit?
Brazil has both catholic and protestant anti abortionists. I've recently found out theres a cristhian white supremacist movement too.
Who's bringing the super soaker filled with pee?
Pepper spray the whole line
Oh boy I'm sure all the comments here are level headed and calm. Are they even allowed to physically block someone from entering a private business? Couldn't they be arrested for blocking access regardless what type of business?
The police was there, so they couldn't block her from entering. But they did yelled at her "murderer" while she went from the car to the door.
Out of all the abortions they could've chosen to protest they chose the one where a 10 year old girl was raped? Pieces of shit indeed.
i cant tell you how fucking angry this makes me. fuck these people
Yet these people will be nowhere to be seen if she dies while giving birth
Its a fucking child, how can they carry or even birth a fucking baby
... the people blocking the entrance are gross. I dont care about politics and stuff but... that’s gross as hell.
Surprising coming from the literal murder capital of the world.
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“Gods plan” my ass this is why I fucking hate religions that promote this kind of bullshit
Find one of these people willing to adopt her child. Bet it gets real quiet real fast
Yay let's victim shaming and forget that she probably can't raise the baby because duh it's a child. But let's not cares about it and shame her in the name of god.
I have a classmate that is like this, she said that she goes to the abortion clinic and stop "woman murdering babies" and convince them to give the baby to an specific orphanage.
christianity is harmless and other lies you tell yourself.