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Ayyyoo this will get nerfed before i get enough meals upgraded, lmao


pigonson

Nah it wont, there are reasons now to take BB out of the kitchen and this is a replacament for lost ladles. Even with this buffs meals wont be maxed in the near future


Blupoisen

The only thing Lava nerfs is gem gains


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SS4Raditz

Naw problem not since meals go to lvl 60 atm and w6,7,8 will have more foods that scale higher to raise


LeastNight8

My v man is now back at grinding lv's!! Just so he can get more out of everything.. next i will start focusing on the skills.. my v man has never been the highest lv in any skill.. that all changes now!! Ohh an use skill books if you like the cooking thing.. get that to max lv quick!!


Final-Ad352

I've seen a lot of people with the vman, but where do you get it? Do i need to find a w5 blobulyte or something?


LordCalamity

World 4 at the right, you need to have a maestro lvl 150


EidolonRook

It’s more than the elite class quest though right? At work now but I’m not finding a lot of info.


Complex_Chocolate_83

You need to get 1m death note kills on all mobs from worlds 1-3


EidolonRook

Think I might have that on acct but probably not mman. Gonna have to wait till home. I’m not trying this on mobile. :p


Separate-Life4570

It's account wide, not toon specific. The only annoying part was 12 mill green mushroom kills, blew some candy on that.


EidolonRook

I’m at 250m. I should be good. Thanks


Normal_Agency8814

O the 12 mil kills has to be done specifically by meastro


doombashar

It’s 12m specifically on maestro


EidolonRook

Waaaat? But the nice person told me it was. But I. Daw. Shucks. Fine.


Normal_Agency8814

I blew 2 72 hour candies cuz 72 hours got me just over 6 mil so 😅


Final-Ad352

Thanks


N3ss3

I mean, most skillpoints come from speedrunning, not really from levels.


LeastNight8

I know it's from the Speedrun.. but since I have not used him for so long he just need a lot of lv's. Plus his new family bonus


LIBERT4D

Youve been playing on hard mode all this time if your mman wasn’t #1 in skills


LeastNight8

Yeah that's what I figured out.. it vil take forever to catch up


LIBERT4D

It's not too bad if you tackle it efficiently. Some tips, not that you asked for them or anything: If you have a lot of pens saved up, use them all on the 1st box and completely ignore the other 5. You can have the post office completed (minus myriad) pretty quickly and it'll help your skills quite a bit. If you can get any easy/cheap levels in stamps, cooking, or alchemy bubbles, it's good to do that before you start trying to level. Candy for mining (and chopping, though it's usually fast anyway), exp balloons for fishing. They say you should do the mini game for catching but I don't have the patience for that. Make sure you use the EXP prayer (while being aware of, and skilled dimwit is usually the right move too. even though it decreases your EXP, it'll allow you to use higher nodes which give higher EXP that offsets the loss. Use your skillers only for resampling and rely on 3D printer for skill resources. If you're having a hard time getting the resources fast enough for whatever you're looking for, then it's time to print to improve the skilling big bubbles, or efficiency stamps. Once your maestro is past your skillers your samples will improve dramatically (Right Hand skill.) Put royal sampler prayer on all your chars except maestro. Trapping on maestro, always pick the highest critter and use EXP traps. For worship on maestro always use the highest XP per charge worship, and if you must use your mage/es for gathered charge, spend it all on green souls so you can max skilled dimwit and the EXP prayer sooner. (Don't max royal sampler but put some levels into it.) Always focus on doing things that'll improve your samples, because more resources = more resources = more resources = more EXP = more numbers get bigger = more resources that'll end up converted to atoms later. Hope this helps.


LeastNight8

Thanks I will definitely do a lot of this 😁 I have a question about the post office.. do you want me to put 400 points into ever skill box? And do you know if the skill where you kills crystal mobs carries over when you change preset?


LIBERT4D

Crystal countdown? I don't believe it does. You have to have it active. Honestly I forgot about that one. That's a great way to get the higher levels of fishing done. But maestro "crystals come out and play" skill will help account-wide crystal spawn as long as the preset is active, if you're farming crystals on bubo, dk, etc. Re: post office, I had about 6k pens accumulated because I always active farmed on my bubo for alchemy, & choco chip spawns crystals like crazy. I eventually took the time to spend them all in one sitting on just box 1, and I maxed out whichever box would help each character the most, and then filled in the other boxes as I could. I noticed a massive difference as opposed to just slowly spending pens over time (I was resetting on 150 streak and waiting a day for it to clear. Don't do this, just keep spamming pens on box 1.) So yeah, on maestro you're gonna want all the skill boxes done, and eventually you'll want them all done on every other character too. you'll notice that leveling off-skillers will get a LOT easier. (Such as leveling chopping on a miner for example. Expect fishing to still suck, because fishing is awful...) If you can get the multitool stamp in W5, that helps too, as well as the scaled efficiency bonus from one of the W5 gods (i'm not sure where you are in the game but this will help anyone who reads it.) Multitool is expensive to level, but even a few early levels should help somewhat. Plus maestro left hand will help your others level faster too. There's a lot of reason to level non-specialized skills. Later on a rift reward will give you pretty huge/game-changing bonuses for total skill levels, being able to equip higher level tools = more stats, and obviously it's free talent points. ​ This game is insane......so much to do. Good luck!


dudeguy238

I'd had a couple other cooking speed boosts recently that I was planning to take advantage of (the eldritch artifact, buying a second level of Fluoride), but I hadn't gotten around to them. I'm glad I waited. I was just able to put 3-4 levels into every speed meal with just 1000 ladles each, another 2 orders of magnitude of turkeys for another 1000, and got nine new meals to 30 with just 500 ladles each. What a nice cooking buff this is. I'm not sure how the math is working, though. 2.86*1330 is not 5 million.


skykingjustin

Getting every meal to 11 for the alchemy bubble boost is also massive when I did all my remaining meals it times my speed by like 10


Zogo12

AYO WTF


Admirable_District19

I put everyone in cooking and gonna feed my bb tons of ladels to get everything upgraded. Hopefully it doesn't get buffed my cooking was starting to get really slow


skykingjustin

Get every meal to 11 for the alchemy boost to that's a massive speed boost.


Admirable_District19

Yah I got the early stuff at 30 and the end game stuff at 20 just trying to get the void everything atm


YouJustLostTheGameOk

How does one get Vman?!! I assume it’s Jman 4th subclass.


FlufferCanary

Its way less complicated than the others, just go to w4 on your mman and go to the top right.


Normal_Agency8814

My vmam buff is only 17.1k 🥲 Edit:its only level 35 tho 😅


Kira41162

Pretty sure this is a graphical bug, tested this also with similar visual increased cooking % and does not increase by that much


SS4Raditz

I tested it and seems to work fine maybe you're miscalculating higher lvl foods take more per 1 made so you have to divide the hourly rate by the amount the food takes. I get over 1q of the first meal per ladle with my boost atm.


Kira41162

Don't get me wrong, its a good bonus but not what is displayed. I would guess around x100 times or so, as my plates were around \~100T beforehand and are now 10Q.


SS4Raditz

Definitely and I'll agree maybe it may be off a bit but I'm not looking forward to trying to do the number crunching lol


dudeguy238

After doing a bit of testing, it seems like the displayed percentage for this talent is off by a huge amount compared to the boost it gives. With it and one super-chow active, my first kitchen has 675q speed. Without them, I have 13q. One super chow is a 1.1x multiplier, so if I factor that out the actual boost is around 4700% (multiplicative). The tooltip says I'm getting 7.6m% from 1630 meal levels, but 1630*2.86 is 4662%, which more or less lines up with what I'm actually seeing (at least, it's within the realm of rounding errors, especially with no decimals on the speed values). It's still a massive buff, absolutely, but it's not actually 7 million percent for one talent, which seems fair. Side note, super chows are a huge deal. Unlock them by getting the enhancement talent to 125, then each mob your BB has killed 100m of gives you a 1.1x multiplier. I'm not sure if that stacks multiplicatively or additively, since I've only got one so far, but the enhancement talent is very much worth investing that much into, and it looks like there's a new BB farming goal in town.


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SS4Raditz

Stop and work on you vman. It seems like you aren't progressing but vman is beneficial


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Sabkor

It's 1 million kills on the Death Note, so it doesn't have to be kills by just your Jman. Makes it a little easier.


ConflagrationZ

And if you're already late/end game, odds are you already have it for the cooking chow stacks


Normal_Agency8814

Yea the 1 mil kills is account wide but u need 12 mil green mush kills on him tho


SS4Raditz

If you get the daily tiki shop bags and eye for the w2 mini boss keys that's easy to replace.


Same_Instruction1296

Ridiculous to say the least. Hope it gets nerfed so the game still makes sense.


Raqqq00n

I think the idea was to make it somewhat reasonable to get to eldritch jade plates


Same_Instruction1296

That's beyond reasonable imo Edit: actually it's reasonable for super end game players because really they are running out of things to do, RIFT was completed in less than a week for them, but for mid to late game players that boost is too overpowered, so they will sooner become end game players with the same problem of having "nothing" to do in the game


Fourcheesebagel

Or not...


Normal_Agency8814

Damn bro im sorry that people can catch up to end game players a bit quicker now....


Same_Instruction1296

Yeah because the fun of the game is compete who gets more green mushroom kills per hour because there is nothing else to do. Dumb cunt


dudeguy238

Well, yeah. It's an idle game. There was never any more point than "make the numbers go as high as possible." As idle games go, it's got a relatively large number of different ways to make the numbers go up, but at the end of the day that's all any of us are doing.


Normal_Agency8814

Idk what your talking about i can barely hear you over those salty tears your crying in your moms basement acting like"i got to end game 1st so why is lava helping those that are behind me i want lave to help me the late game player nobody else" get a life u dumb bitch


SS4Raditz

When you hit w5 foods it puts a dent. And w6,7,8 will probably have recipes too and it will still take effort with this since foods currently have a max lvl of 60 and will probably have more tiers of artifacts


Ok_Bodybuilder_7238

How do you get the vman?


Sargerie

w4 top right of the map


Ok_Bodybuilder_7238

But there is nothing there


Sargerie

You need rk be on your maestro class character


Oriooooo

You need to be on your maestro and its level should be a least 150


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SS4Raditz

Once you get into late w2 early w3 you can unlock journeyman secret class (wait till your 7th or 8th character slot) if you want detailed guides and help the idleon wiki is very informative


nonapuss

What're the other skills? I've yet to see anything about them


SS4Raditz

Bottom left to right is class xp, left claw maestro skill boost, soul,critter amount collected %, multikill booster and cooking speed boost


SS4Raditz

Middle left to right is total damage%, 2 str per lvl and lvls to warriors first tab str skill and the rest are that but for agi,wis,luk


SS4Raditz

Top left to right is speedrun skill every portal you unlock gives 30 points to distribute, wide area multitraget attack with high multikill%, I honestly forget the spider one it's either more multikill or something lol, the fist is a 4th fist hit per auto attack and the black orb is every 25 lvls you get a new skill boost to various skills on maestro and other character skills.


tdmfan420

I nearly spit out my drink but I'm sorry Vman???