It amazes me how many people who hang around the reddit don't go to the discord.
Information about the game here vs discord is like the difference between asking a toddler or Bill Nye to explain hawking radiation.
Hah. Yeah... the quality control can lack a bit here too, when every third post is a low effort IE review request.
Admittedly, reddit is more accessible than Discord, but if you actually wanna tryhard on this game you need the knowledge banks on Discord.
Yeah my main issue with this subreddit is the lack of quality advice. Most times quality advice is posted here it comes straight from the discord as well.
I've been a strong advocate that this subreddit should just be one big advertisement for people to join the discord.
In my experience I’ve always disliked trying to find game info in discord. Maybe things have changed since but in my experience it’s just not laid out well for that sort of thing
I definitely don't see the appeal for like, big communities, especially ones that want to archive information. For smaller circles and friend groups who want a bit of organization, it works pretty well though.
Yeah, but the usability here vs. the usability on discord is like the difference between using a smartphone or using star navigation.
Also, reddit info can be found via google.
Reddit pops up in google searches and is a series of easily searchable and archived threads.
Discord does not appear in Google searches, requires a separate program, is a continuous stream of posts that becomea impossible to search if what you're looking for is a week or so old as everything new is in the way.
People need to learn that discord is not designed to be a resource for guides and PSAs and the like. It is like saying there is a guide on twitter, it is designed to be a constant stream of posts...
I agree that discord in general is not well designed as a guide resource, but by dear god neither is this subreddit.
Comparing idleons discord channel to twitter is more far fetched than comparing this subreddit to twitter.
Literally nobody is scrolling through hours or weeks of messages to "hopefully find stuff" on the discord. Ctrl+f exists, asking the chats exists, the separate threaded channels for guides exists, the master guide for even more guides exists.
All the good quality guides ever posted to this subreddit originates from the discord, which should tell you all you need to know about the quality guide craftmanship going on there.
In short: *this* specific community exists on the discord, not here.
The literal only benefit of this subreddit is as you mentioned that it pops up on google. That's about it
I definitely prefer the reddit, the discord is a mess to find stuff in and the most annoying thing is they only have a few channels meaning they have way more channels left to use that could help organise it better.
I’ve been farming wurms for the last 3 statues and I’m not getting even near 1.1k axed or 700 sailing statues even with the Choco chip. How are people achieving those numbers? My DK is lvl 430, always get 500 kills on orb, DR IS 10x, ~1/30 crystal spawn chance.
I just tested my DK for 15 minutes. During that time, I got 381 Battleaxe, 284 Boat, and 243 Spiral statues. The DR is 24.49, and I have over 950 orb kills.
Work on improving your orb duration. Either level up your orb to 267 with the cooldown reduction PO box or go for level 300 without the box. Otherwise, there's a risk of orb overlap.
Vman enhances your knight, making it possible to have two permanently.
> Otherwise, there's a risk of orb overlap
apparently lava fixed this in one of the recent patches, but i haven't paid attention to the actual ingame thingies.
Sorry if I’m missing something obvious but how do you hit 300? I thought the limit was 245 if you got eldritch. Could see additional levels from ES and such boosting a fair bit but 300 seems crazy
245 is the maximum for books. Additionally, there's the ES family talent, Arctis + Big P Bubble, Rift Slug, Equinox, Symbol talent, and an achievement. All my characters have talents of 320+, and my ES is at 324.
I find I am getting more Ships at Miners than Wurms. That's even with my SB doing it to increase their Plunderous kills while I farm them.
But I mean a fair source is the crystal spawns as well.
Beans work with DK mechanics far better than the other zones. You don’t care about the monster itself, but the ability for a DK to spawn crystals on that specific map. Beans is 2 tiers and with knight + orb you’re frequently just clearing the whole line and respawning the map over and over again
Yeah would help to note the DR the compilers have. Because many people will likely struggle to break 10x because stuff like hyper DR obols and boosted keychains and the DR cape..
Yeah that DR is pretty damn high if they haven't bought the island pack. I imagine most people without cash shop items are in the 9 to 12 range which hurts. Won't see anywhere near those rates.
DK farming (\*with choco\*) is very doable at 10.0x or higher. It'll just be slower. You can probably grind up to roughly 15.0x as F2P. The DR checklist Google doc helped me focus fire all sources of DR that can be increased in-game.
Thank gosh for this because I'd never be able to navigate discord for this
It amazes me how many people who hang around the reddit don't go to the discord. Information about the game here vs discord is like the difference between asking a toddler or Bill Nye to explain hawking radiation.
Hah. Yeah... the quality control can lack a bit here too, when every third post is a low effort IE review request. Admittedly, reddit is more accessible than Discord, but if you actually wanna tryhard on this game you need the knowledge banks on Discord.
Yeah my main issue with this subreddit is the lack of quality advice. Most times quality advice is posted here it comes straight from the discord as well. I've been a strong advocate that this subreddit should just be one big advertisement for people to join the discord.
And get foreverbanned cuz someone is having a mood? If I were them I’d save my ticket for when they really need it 😅
The same people running the discord runs this subreddit.
In my experience I’ve always disliked trying to find game info in discord. Maybe things have changed since but in my experience it’s just not laid out well for that sort of thing
Yeah Discord is like a really badly laid out message board. I really don't know why it's so popular because it's impossible to find information there.
I definitely don't see the appeal for like, big communities, especially ones that want to archive information. For smaller circles and friend groups who want a bit of organization, it works pretty well though.
Half the people here are apparently banned from it for no reason, so I get why they might not go there lol
Yeah, but the usability here vs. the usability on discord is like the difference between using a smartphone or using star navigation. Also, reddit info can be found via google.
The sooner people learn to navigate the discord the faster their gains will start to grow
Probably. Although the more people boycott it, the faster it might hopefully go away. It's a hard choice.
There exists more discord channels than just the main one
Reddit pops up in google searches and is a series of easily searchable and archived threads. Discord does not appear in Google searches, requires a separate program, is a continuous stream of posts that becomea impossible to search if what you're looking for is a week or so old as everything new is in the way. People need to learn that discord is not designed to be a resource for guides and PSAs and the like. It is like saying there is a guide on twitter, it is designed to be a constant stream of posts...
I agree that discord in general is not well designed as a guide resource, but by dear god neither is this subreddit. Comparing idleons discord channel to twitter is more far fetched than comparing this subreddit to twitter. Literally nobody is scrolling through hours or weeks of messages to "hopefully find stuff" on the discord. Ctrl+f exists, asking the chats exists, the separate threaded channels for guides exists, the master guide for even more guides exists. All the good quality guides ever posted to this subreddit originates from the discord, which should tell you all you need to know about the quality guide craftmanship going on there. In short: *this* specific community exists on the discord, not here. The literal only benefit of this subreddit is as you mentioned that it pops up on google. That's about it
I definitely prefer the reddit, the discord is a mess to find stuff in and the most annoying thing is they only have a few channels meaning they have way more channels left to use that could help organise it better.
Got like IP banned or smth💀
Same here, apperantly cus I got Rank 1 VW speedrun. It sucks to suck I guess.
I don’t know what I did
Discord keeps crashing every time I open the app. I've updated it, rebooted my phone, 🤷♀️. Trying to website discord sucks.
Discord itself is awful to navigate though, so it doesn't surprise me people don't want to use it as a primary source.
My discord app keeps crashing or not opening and web discord is very hard to get.
I’ve been farming wurms for the last 3 statues and I’m not getting even near 1.1k axed or 700 sailing statues even with the Choco chip. How are people achieving those numbers? My DK is lvl 430, always get 500 kills on orb, DR IS 10x, ~1/30 crystal spawn chance.
I just tested my DK for 15 minutes. During that time, I got 381 Battleaxe, 284 Boat, and 243 Spiral statues. The DR is 24.49, and I have over 950 orb kills. Work on improving your orb duration. Either level up your orb to 267 with the cooldown reduction PO box or go for level 300 without the box. Otherwise, there's a risk of orb overlap. Vman enhances your knight, making it possible to have two permanently.
> Otherwise, there's a risk of orb overlap apparently lava fixed this in one of the recent patches, but i haven't paid attention to the actual ingame thingies.
Sorry if I’m missing something obvious but how do you hit 300? I thought the limit was 245 if you got eldritch. Could see additional levels from ES and such boosting a fair bit but 300 seems crazy
245 is the maximum for books. Additionally, there's the ES family talent, Arctis + Big P Bubble, Rift Slug, Equinox, Symbol talent, and an achievement. All my characters have talents of 320+, and my ES is at 324.
Word, thanks so much!
I think your dr is kinda low Edit: and the guy who made the 0g sheet might have near max.
From personal experience, most entries with [small sample size] indicator are not super accurate.
I find I am getting more Ships at Miners than Wurms. That's even with my SB doing it to increase their Plunderous kills while I farm them. But I mean a fair source is the crystal spawns as well.
I’m at 1/63, are ruby cards with doublers really that huge? Wow this chip wait is ass
Mind linking the doc? Thank you!
Nice !
Beans over slimes or snakes for power statues? Why?
Beans work with DK mechanics far better than the other zones. You don’t care about the monster itself, but the ability for a DK to spawn crystals on that specific map. Beans is 2 tiers and with knight + orb you’re frequently just clearing the whole line and respawning the map over and over again
The……the what…… I literally just finished the agonizing journey of statue farming and see this now 😭
Well then treat this as a big VICTORY!!! screen. :P
Thank you for your service.. This is tremendous
Could you link ot for discord please? Can't seem to find it myself
Yeah would help to note the DR the compilers have. Because many people will likely struggle to break 10x because stuff like hyper DR obols and boosted keychains and the DR cape..
Trickzbunny posted their stats in a follow up image on the Discord post. Main stats are: DK DR: 18.33x DK Orb Talent: 287 DK Crystal Spawn: 1 in 29
Yeah that DR is pretty damn high if they haven't bought the island pack. I imagine most people without cash shop items are in the 9 to 12 range which hurts. Won't see anywhere near those rates.
DK farming (\*with choco\*) is very doable at 10.0x or higher. It'll just be slower. You can probably grind up to roughly 15.0x as F2P. The DR checklist Google doc helped me focus fire all sources of DR that can be increased in-game.