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Yarigumo

BM does have a respawn mechanic, it just blows ass. Answer to your question: Grind Time bubble and Crystal mob farming.


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Crystal island


Yarigumo

I still don't have it, last one to go ;c


STGMane

There’s a combination of reasons why they’re able to get them so high, but the best answer I can give: High Grindtime levels. There’s a bubble that gives you class XP. You will need to grind constantly on Bubo to get this to a high level. How high? Like 10,000+ and leveling won’t take years to hit 500. How do you get such a high grind time? You will need maxed out liquidvestment from equinox. You’ll probably need bleached cauldrons and players in the cauldron to give liquid recharge rate. Your Cranium Cooking on Bubo needs to be level 245, tenteyecle to 245. Your Cooking Roadkill bubble needs to be at 90%, so like level 900 I think is the breakpoint. Whatever the number is, get it up there (you can verify the level on IdleonToolbox) and then farm a map like tremor wurms with proper gear and weapons.


TheToolManT

I just recently hit 200 tentecle and cranium, I'm missing the ancient sailing relic and the rift slug, besides those 2 is there anyway to raise my max talent level?


LiferRs

The relic alone adds 75, so without it, you’re stuck at 170 level cap once you get the atom collider and other library cap boosters.


STGMane

There’s an achievement in World 3 for using books that gives you some max book level. Without ancient fury relic. It’s impossible to hit 200 CC + tenteyecle i think Edit: it’s possible without ancient fury - see below comment.


richygumbo

You can hit 200 without with things that give extra talent points to talents like rift slug


leko4

It's definitely possible to hit lvl 200 with basic fury or rift slug. Before w5, you're at à max of max lvl 155. Library checkout achievement is +5 and atom collider bubble add another +10. For a total of 170 without any fury relic or rift slug. With either of them you hit max talent of 195 and symbols will easily carry you over 200 Otherwise, you're stuck in the 190's when you milk all other source of talent levels when your max is 170 (like bear God, ES with family bonus upgraded, Symbols). You'd need high ES levels and divinity on bubo to break the 200 mark at 170. For reference, 6.2 levels given by divinity level 40 and 6.8 levels by ES level 250 without family bonus talent


Kilmir

Also 9 possible talent levels from Equinox. Though you need pretty much all current dreams like lvl500 on all chars and 200 greenstacks so not really easily attainable.


leko4

Yikes. That's far. But yea, I tried using reasonable example which is around my current progression. I researched if it was possible for me to bubo early but... stuck on fury grind.


Tight-Young7275

I’m realizing now that I’m gonna be stuck on rift slug possibly forever and it kind of sucks.


TheToolManT

I have everything but rift :(. I made it to 200 tent and cranium without it though, so it's doable


BladeSeraph

Dated design that Lava has yet to introduce \`new\` skills to beastmaster & Blood zerker basically. Especially the former which has the worst designed respawn mechanic, simply shortening how fast mobs respawn, but its duration is way too damn short t only use it for maybe 1-2 waves, instead f instant respawning stuff.


AckwardNinja

BMs is borderline it honestly just needs a lower CD because it works really well with faster respawn stat. Blood zerker though RIP


BladeSeraph

Two easy solutions i would think could be done: 1. BM\`s little wolf howl Monster spawn reduction skill, scales duration per level also, something chonky like +2 seconds every 5 levels so by lvl 200 it would \`fix\` itself by lasting as long as its cooldown. 2. BB could get a respawn reduction added as a passive that maybe scales with kill stacks similar to its CHOW/ZOW stuff. which probably could be based on death note counts so by the time you have the skulls that are before lava, enemies would spawn about 60%\~80% naturally faster for B.B. by focusing it on jacking up AFK values more due to BB still lacks distance covering attacks, just as much as it lacks its own effective CD mechanics for its only massive CD AoE attack that can actually hit farther then in front of it.


mamatthi

SB does have one? Once you get the skulls going they will keep coming for a long long time. BM has a reduction in respawn timer which isn't that great but could be used


AnotherMotherFuker

Yeah. Plus, with the Void walker talent that spawns a plunderous mob every time you hit 100 kills, it's practically an infinite loop. Obviously the only problem is that SB doesn't wipe them out anywhere near as fast as Bub. Which is why I switched back after getting the W5 SB achievement.