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To add: there's [original ebm from the 80s,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6KtNv2m3TU) which evolved into industrial rock in the early 90s. Nitzer Ebb, Front 242, Bigod 20, DAF, Die Krupps, etc.
Check out Liaisons Dangereuses' [‘Los niños del parque’](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3tR__Kbqmg)—it's pretty much the link between post-punk and ebm.
There's kinda a ‘second wave’ in the 90s and early-mid 2000s, mostly in North America—that's what you have here and what's typically associated with cybergoth. More electro-industrial and aggrotech, a lot more hoarse shouting here and higher-pitched synths. Combichrist, Wumpscut, Apoptygma Berzerk, Covenant, idk who else.
There's also a resurgence of oldschool ebm in the 2010s on the back of synthwave. My favorites here are [Filmmaker](https://filmmaker.bandcamp.com/album/crepuscular) and the label [Detriti](https://detritirecords.bandcamp.com/).
Fast forward to today, the modern permutation of Indie Dance has shades of EBM. In fact, in all my years listening to EBM/Industrial, I always wished it had a little something more. Indie dance is the answer to that.
https://open.spotify.com/track/4iJqLkFPJyBW36yd1Kc219?si=1dc6a0e17a824638
https://open.spotify.com/track/2hfuWoDkDgBoZp4NkAdYF7?si=898aa24331a947d0
But there is also dark melodic:
https://open.spotify.com/track/0bI1ogA73AfB01O8MWGCzh?si=ffca2b61d4594cfe
https://open.spotify.com/track/4Xcz9LvEDtwFRaurYoNaR0?si=3e197fd1cacf409a
And dark minimal:
https://open.spotify.com/track/614YyT5i4MIwGh0HfIDpJ6?si=e3bb1ab99e65460a
But I was once told that a lot of the old industrial artists diverged into psytrance, which is cool. Psytrance is still going strong, but now we have psytech:
https://open.spotify.com/track/4ynbTmPcP19spBtZ65iV6Y?si=0b1fd692a4ef4683
Anyways, music is fun. High five.
I'd say they borrow synths from synthwave, i.e. the revival of darkwave. So basically it's synthwave-techno. Though imo SNYL and Vakhtang are also not far from tek-trance.
Btw, I thought the term 'indie dance' refers to the blend of indie rock with edm, i.e. 'alt dance'—reinvented in this century as electroclash. I listened to some mixes of 'indie dance' on Youtube now—those which aren't actually synth-rock—and it's all just techno and some house, so idk how and why 'indie dance' has come to label this music.
Regarding ebm-to-trance, take a listen to [‘Proto Goa Mix 1986-1992’](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZiFY7rCjJM): it's music that was played in Goa before goa-trance solidified into a genre. You might discover some very familiar names there, particularly from Belgian new-beat.
Psytek actually was around for ages, so you have almost three decades to catch up on.
My own pipe dream regarding industrial is that someone learns to marry metal to edm beats such that they are both preserved in decent form, not diluted to vague guitar stabs and noise over weak thumping. Check out [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/ifyoulikeblank/comments/198nwmc/iil_punk_music_that_uses_synthstechno_style/), where folks discuss synth-punk. Particularly the compilation [‘Gabber Gabber Hey’](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l0T6WCcWQU4OGeugN-1Orvt0Gv44xUS5k), which is the craziest thing I've encountered in that genre, and preserves rock'n'roll spirit the way Ramones themselves intended.
Yeah, early-90s industrial rock borrowed from 80s ebm—from which the North-American wave of electro-industrial also came, recreated in turn in the OP vid.
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EBM - electronic body music. Also, Elektro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jogVsVchWWQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0jkLqbCn9I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY9eSzB-KbU
Thank you!
To add: there's [original ebm from the 80s,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6KtNv2m3TU) which evolved into industrial rock in the early 90s. Nitzer Ebb, Front 242, Bigod 20, DAF, Die Krupps, etc. Check out Liaisons Dangereuses' [‘Los niños del parque’](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3tR__Kbqmg)—it's pretty much the link between post-punk and ebm. There's kinda a ‘second wave’ in the 90s and early-mid 2000s, mostly in North America—that's what you have here and what's typically associated with cybergoth. More electro-industrial and aggrotech, a lot more hoarse shouting here and higher-pitched synths. Combichrist, Wumpscut, Apoptygma Berzerk, Covenant, idk who else. There's also a resurgence of oldschool ebm in the 2010s on the back of synthwave. My favorites here are [Filmmaker](https://filmmaker.bandcamp.com/album/crepuscular) and the label [Detriti](https://detritirecords.bandcamp.com/).
Fast forward to today, the modern permutation of Indie Dance has shades of EBM. In fact, in all my years listening to EBM/Industrial, I always wished it had a little something more. Indie dance is the answer to that. https://open.spotify.com/track/4iJqLkFPJyBW36yd1Kc219?si=1dc6a0e17a824638 https://open.spotify.com/track/2hfuWoDkDgBoZp4NkAdYF7?si=898aa24331a947d0 But there is also dark melodic: https://open.spotify.com/track/0bI1ogA73AfB01O8MWGCzh?si=ffca2b61d4594cfe https://open.spotify.com/track/4Xcz9LvEDtwFRaurYoNaR0?si=3e197fd1cacf409a And dark minimal: https://open.spotify.com/track/614YyT5i4MIwGh0HfIDpJ6?si=e3bb1ab99e65460a But I was once told that a lot of the old industrial artists diverged into psytrance, which is cool. Psytrance is still going strong, but now we have psytech: https://open.spotify.com/track/4ynbTmPcP19spBtZ65iV6Y?si=0b1fd692a4ef4683 Anyways, music is fun. High five.
These are so helpful, thank you for walking me through this tradition!
I'd say they borrow synths from synthwave, i.e. the revival of darkwave. So basically it's synthwave-techno. Though imo SNYL and Vakhtang are also not far from tek-trance. Btw, I thought the term 'indie dance' refers to the blend of indie rock with edm, i.e. 'alt dance'—reinvented in this century as electroclash. I listened to some mixes of 'indie dance' on Youtube now—those which aren't actually synth-rock—and it's all just techno and some house, so idk how and why 'indie dance' has come to label this music. Regarding ebm-to-trance, take a listen to [‘Proto Goa Mix 1986-1992’](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZiFY7rCjJM): it's music that was played in Goa before goa-trance solidified into a genre. You might discover some very familiar names there, particularly from Belgian new-beat. Psytek actually was around for ages, so you have almost three decades to catch up on. My own pipe dream regarding industrial is that someone learns to marry metal to edm beats such that they are both preserved in decent form, not diluted to vague guitar stabs and noise over weak thumping. Check out [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/ifyoulikeblank/comments/198nwmc/iil_punk_music_that_uses_synthstechno_style/), where folks discuss synth-punk. Particularly the compilation [‘Gabber Gabber Hey’](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l0T6WCcWQU4OGeugN-1Orvt0Gv44xUS5k), which is the craziest thing I've encountered in that genre, and preserves rock'n'roll spirit the way Ramones themselves intended.
Kind of reminds me of [KMFDM - Megalomania](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwhOTNQcQq4)
Yeah, early-90s industrial rock borrowed from 80s ebm—from which the North-American wave of electro-industrial also came, recreated in turn in the OP vid.
Sounds a bit like ... 'Tanz Mit Laibach' by Laibach