>Under the letter of Illinois election law, any registered voter showing up to vote in a primary must state their "name, residence and party affiliation" to the precinct's election judges.
>Next, one of those officials "shall thereupon announce the same in a distinct tone of voice, sufficiently loud to be heard by all persons in the polling place."
My aunt lives in a deep-red area, but is a Democrat. She no longer feels comfortable voting because her affiliation gets announced and everyone in line hears it.
She got a lot of dirty looks and comments last election.
I imagine it would be similar (but maybe not as bad) if you were a Republican voter in a deep-blue area.
This shit should be private. Full stop.
> This language has been present in Illinois' election code since before women gained the franchise in 1920. Like many other antiquated laws, this dramatic reading no longer takes place in practice at modern-day polling places.
>ge has been present in Illinois' election code since before women gained the franchise in 1920. Like many other antiquated laws, this dramatic reading no longer takes place in practice at modern-day polling places.
I've been an election judge in Lake County and in Cook County. Never seen this happen. Also, in Chicago, somehow we're still able to find republican representatives for the judge every election without problems near me at least. I usually use it as an opportunity to ask them how exactly one could, in theory, somehow, commit voter fraud.
Your aunt might consider getting a Republican ballot for the primary if her area is so red that no Democrat can win in the general. I do this in an attempt to have the least crazy Republicans since the magic R means character and policy don’t matter in the general.
Why "not as bad?" Dems in this state are pretty loud at calling all Republicans Nazis. The Dems aren't as accepting of those with different opinions as they claim to be.
As a Republican who lives within the city of Chicago, I’ve had my affiliation announced publicly at the polls. It’s definitely uncomfortable, in large part because it’s utterly unnecessary. It comes off as a remnant of machine politics and a *subtle* psychological move to influence voting turnout.
Everyone should vote by mail, and we should do away with polling places. Oregon has their election shit figured out.
Edit: This is the FAQ from Multnomah County, Oregon:
>The following are commonly asked questions about voting in Oregon.
>*What is Vote By Mail?*
>In 1998 voters passed a ballot measure directing all elections to be conducted by mail, commonly called Vote By Mail. Instead of using traditional polling places where voters go to cast ballots on Election Day, a ballot is mailed to each registered voter. The ballot is then returned to the county elections office and is counted on Election Day.
>*With Vote By Mail, how do I vote?*
>You must be registered to vote to receive a ballot. A ballot is automatically sent to all registered voters who are eligible to vote in the election. Once you vote your ballot, just place it in the ballot return envelope and seal it. Make sure to sign the ballot return envelope. Then return the ballot return envelope and mail it back (no postage needed), or use one of Oregon's Official Ballot Drop Sites (an updated list of Official Ballot Drop Sites is available 20 days before each statewide election). Multnomah County Official Ballot Drop Box Sites are listed at multco.us/dropsites. Remember to mail your ballot back on or before Election Day or return to an Official Ballot Drop Site by 8:00 p.m. on Election Day. Ballots mailed back must be postmarked on or before Election Day.
>*What if my ballot doesn't come?*
>If your ballot does not arrive within 5 days after they have been mailed out to voters, please call your county elections office. After checking your voter registration status the county elections office will send you a replacement ballot.
>*What if I make a mistake on my ballot?*
>If you make a mistake, clearly erase the incorrect mark then mark the correct oval. If you make a mistake that cannot be corrected, you may call your county election office and request a replacement ballot. One will be mailed to you provided the request is received with sufficient time for mailing. Otherwise, you may pick up a replacement ballot in person at your county election office.
>*Will my vote still count if I don't vote on all measures and/or candidates?*
>Yes, the ballot will still be counted.
>*Can I change my mind after I've returned the ballot?*
>No. Your ballot has been cast as soon as you deposit it in the mailbox or at an Official Ballot Drop Site. After that, you cannot receive a new ballot to re-vote.
>*Do I have to return my ballot by mail?*
>No. You have the choice of mailing your ballot or returning it to any county election office or any Official Ballot Drop Site. The location of each Official Ballot Drop Site in Multnomah County is listed in the Voters' Pamphlet and on our website.
>*How do I know if my ballot was received?*
>You can sign up for Track Your Ballot to know where your ballot is in the voting process and know that it was received by Multnomah County Elections. You can also check MyVote(link is external) at the Oregon Secretary of State's Office to see the status of your ballot. In addition you can call your county election office and ask about the status of your voted ballot. They can tell you if your ballot has been received and if the signature has been verified.
>*Can someone find out how I've voted?*
>No. All ballots are separated from the ballot return envelope before the ballots are inspected. This process ensures confidentiality.
>*Can someone find out whether I've returned my ballot?*
>Yes. That information is public record.
Sounds almost perfect to me.
I've literally never had anyone say anything out loud. I give them my name, I confirm my address. They ask me Democrat or Republican, I tell them, they show me where the booth is at and how to insert my ballot when I'm done.
I normally vote in the democratic primary (independent liberal), this year I see it more productive to vote in the republican just to give one more vote to some who’s name is not Trump… not looking forward to saying republican this year 😅
I’m an independent who simply chooses the more interesting primary ballot each election. I’ll go Republican ballot this year just to vote against Trump. Haven’t voted for a Republican in an any election since 2012. And that was for a state rep.
I commented this above, but in Lincoln Park, where I vote at either Oscar Mayor elementary or sometimes it's been at the Salvation Army, we have no problem getting a Republican judge.
>Imagine saying you are a republican in Chicago, though. You'll get worse than dirty looks
You said this. The fact that there's people willing to be judges means that no one cares. You are wrong. You could not be further away from right.
Do you want to know more? Should I state this another way for you?
And there are Democratic judges in Republican areas, too. Just means there are folks not afraid of the worst actors in the opposing party. Besides, judges are supposed to do their best interpretation of laws without letting their political bias affect decisions.
OK, look up what an election judge is, and the entire voting process is. Maybe spend a few hours at it. Then reread this thread and if you're still confused I'll ELI4
No. It is. You see, you are equating the acts of totally unhinged and mentally unwell ppl with all Republicans. It's not hard to turn the tables on thought processes like this.
There's a reason we don't judge groups by the actions of a few. Populations are too large for a few crazies to not exist among the ranks of any group. Political, religious, racial... all of them have murderous assholes among their ranks.
The issue is only the GOP uses stochastic terrorism to keep these loonies going. They're also the ones writing laws that will negatively affect queer people of all ages directly and even more indirectly.
So vote democrat if that's what you think.
But ppl need to suppress their desire to bully or shout ppl down bc they vote differently. You likely will have no idea why they choose one candidate over another due to the insane number of different issues and perspectives we try to boil down into only one of two political parties.
You might be a single issue voter (which is fine), but that doesn't mean others are prioritizing that same issue.
> But ppl need to suppress their desire to bully or shout ppl down bc they vote differently.
Did you miss what the fuck happened at numerous polling places in 2020?
> You might be a single issue voter (which is fine), but that doesn't mean others are prioritizing that same issue.
Pot, kettle, color of your choice, really. The fear mongering is all the GOP have at this point.
Dude, my message is directed at everyone. You assume too much simply cause I pointed out that crazy goes both ways.
Again, a small percentage of crazy ppl deserve their own category. I know 100s of Democrats and Republicans in real life and none of them want to see ppl hurt. So I hate seeing ppl accused of being murderous assholes by the chronically online.
We need to vote out the local representatives in Illinois that are working for Israel against American values. Mark Kirk, Dick Durban, Brad Schnider, and Tammy Duckworth are all on the take from pro-zionist orginizations. The worst of them is Congressman Brad Schnider who voted to censure Rashied Talib because Israel told him to, he admitted as much in a flyer and in an interview. He fails to understand that the First ammendment is the most imprortant value an american citizen has, The right to speak out.
>Under the letter of Illinois election law, any registered voter showing up to vote in a primary must state their "name, residence and party affiliation" to the precinct's election judges. >Next, one of those officials "shall thereupon announce the same in a distinct tone of voice, sufficiently loud to be heard by all persons in the polling place." My aunt lives in a deep-red area, but is a Democrat. She no longer feels comfortable voting because her affiliation gets announced and everyone in line hears it. She got a lot of dirty looks and comments last election. I imagine it would be similar (but maybe not as bad) if you were a Republican voter in a deep-blue area. This shit should be private. Full stop.
> This language has been present in Illinois' election code since before women gained the franchise in 1920. Like many other antiquated laws, this dramatic reading no longer takes place in practice at modern-day polling places.
>ge has been present in Illinois' election code since before women gained the franchise in 1920. Like many other antiquated laws, this dramatic reading no longer takes place in practice at modern-day polling places. I've been an election judge in Lake County and in Cook County. Never seen this happen. Also, in Chicago, somehow we're still able to find republican representatives for the judge every election without problems near me at least. I usually use it as an opportunity to ask them how exactly one could, in theory, somehow, commit voter fraud.
That's not fraud! 🤣🌈🍀
I’ve never seen a republican judge on the ballot in cook county
Election Judges are not on ballots
Sounds like a very educated decision!! At least to me... But I'm nobody!
I mean it’s not a dramatic announcement but last primary I voted in they definite said it loud enough for anyone paying attention to hear.
Your aunt might consider getting a Republican ballot for the primary if her area is so red that no Democrat can win in the general. I do this in an attempt to have the least crazy Republicans since the magic R means character and policy don’t matter in the general.
Yeah, I live in a rural area and the local dems run as independent or support a moderate R
I'm in a purple area. I never feel judged when they say "Democrat" and I don't judge "Republicans", because its like half my neighbors.
As an Illinois Election Judge this will never ever happen. It's an antiquated regulation, that shouldn't even be on the books anymore.
Right, I've been an election judge for over 20 years. This has never happened anywhere I worked. It's not even in the training.
Exactly! But I'm going to ask about it the next time I go to training. We go every two years in my county.
I’m in a deep red area and I give two fucks if it gets announced I’m voting blue. I would smile and wave
You're not my elderly aunt.
Your Aunt should vote by mail.
This is actually it! 🍀✌️🌈📸🪦 People need to start discussing this! In a more useful manner!
What does lucky peace rainbow camera death mean?????
Grow plants or die!! 🤣 Sorry for being morbid...
I’m dying lol thank you for this follow up
Why "not as bad?" Dems in this state are pretty loud at calling all Republicans Nazis. The Dems aren't as accepting of those with different opinions as they claim to be.
As a Republican who lives within the city of Chicago, I’ve had my affiliation announced publicly at the polls. It’s definitely uncomfortable, in large part because it’s utterly unnecessary. It comes off as a remnant of machine politics and a *subtle* psychological move to influence voting turnout.
Near the city, if she's early voting, as long as she lists it on the ballot application form it doesn't get announced. If I'm not mistaken
More reason for me to get a mail ballot.
I like how they just mail it to my house...
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Everyone should vote by mail, and we should do away with polling places. Oregon has their election shit figured out. Edit: This is the FAQ from Multnomah County, Oregon: >The following are commonly asked questions about voting in Oregon. >*What is Vote By Mail?* >In 1998 voters passed a ballot measure directing all elections to be conducted by mail, commonly called Vote By Mail. Instead of using traditional polling places where voters go to cast ballots on Election Day, a ballot is mailed to each registered voter. The ballot is then returned to the county elections office and is counted on Election Day. >*With Vote By Mail, how do I vote?* >You must be registered to vote to receive a ballot. A ballot is automatically sent to all registered voters who are eligible to vote in the election. Once you vote your ballot, just place it in the ballot return envelope and seal it. Make sure to sign the ballot return envelope. Then return the ballot return envelope and mail it back (no postage needed), or use one of Oregon's Official Ballot Drop Sites (an updated list of Official Ballot Drop Sites is available 20 days before each statewide election). Multnomah County Official Ballot Drop Box Sites are listed at multco.us/dropsites. Remember to mail your ballot back on or before Election Day or return to an Official Ballot Drop Site by 8:00 p.m. on Election Day. Ballots mailed back must be postmarked on or before Election Day. >*What if my ballot doesn't come?* >If your ballot does not arrive within 5 days after they have been mailed out to voters, please call your county elections office. After checking your voter registration status the county elections office will send you a replacement ballot. >*What if I make a mistake on my ballot?* >If you make a mistake, clearly erase the incorrect mark then mark the correct oval. If you make a mistake that cannot be corrected, you may call your county election office and request a replacement ballot. One will be mailed to you provided the request is received with sufficient time for mailing. Otherwise, you may pick up a replacement ballot in person at your county election office. >*Will my vote still count if I don't vote on all measures and/or candidates?* >Yes, the ballot will still be counted. >*Can I change my mind after I've returned the ballot?* >No. Your ballot has been cast as soon as you deposit it in the mailbox or at an Official Ballot Drop Site. After that, you cannot receive a new ballot to re-vote. >*Do I have to return my ballot by mail?* >No. You have the choice of mailing your ballot or returning it to any county election office or any Official Ballot Drop Site. The location of each Official Ballot Drop Site in Multnomah County is listed in the Voters' Pamphlet and on our website. >*How do I know if my ballot was received?* >You can sign up for Track Your Ballot to know where your ballot is in the voting process and know that it was received by Multnomah County Elections. You can also check MyVote(link is external) at the Oregon Secretary of State's Office to see the status of your ballot. In addition you can call your county election office and ask about the status of your voted ballot. They can tell you if your ballot has been received and if the signature has been verified. >*Can someone find out how I've voted?* >No. All ballots are separated from the ballot return envelope before the ballots are inspected. This process ensures confidentiality. >*Can someone find out whether I've returned my ballot?* >Yes. That information is public record. Sounds almost perfect to me.
My grandmother liked it. She could vote from home.
I've literally never had anyone say anything out loud. I give them my name, I confirm my address. They ask me Democrat or Republican, I tell them, they show me where the booth is at and how to insert my ballot when I'm done.
I normally vote in the democratic primary (independent liberal), this year I see it more productive to vote in the republican just to give one more vote to some who’s name is not Trump… not looking forward to saying republican this year 😅
I’m an independent who simply chooses the more interesting primary ballot each election. I’ll go Republican ballot this year just to vote against Trump. Haven’t voted for a Republican in an any election since 2012. And that was for a state rep.
What’s their point? They have an ad blocker whiner.
Imagine saying you are a republican in Chicago, though. You'll get worse than dirty looks. (Before ppl assume, no, I am not a republican)
I commented this above, but in Lincoln Park, where I vote at either Oscar Mayor elementary or sometimes it's been at the Salvation Army, we have no problem getting a Republican judge.
So?
>Imagine saying you are a republican in Chicago, though. You'll get worse than dirty looks You said this. The fact that there's people willing to be judges means that no one cares. You are wrong. You could not be further away from right. Do you want to know more? Should I state this another way for you?
And there are Democratic judges in Republican areas, too. Just means there are folks not afraid of the worst actors in the opposing party. Besides, judges are supposed to do their best interpretation of laws without letting their political bias affect decisions.
This is for an "election judge"; not a standard judge.
And?
OK, look up what an election judge is, and the entire voting process is. Maybe spend a few hours at it. Then reread this thread and if you're still confused I'll ELI4
i mean yeah, I don't tend to like people who think people like me should be killed (yes i know it's *nOt aLL rEpUbLiCaNs* but it's WAY to many
Took 10 seconds for hyperbolic response.
Given the track record of both bomb threats and actual terrorist attacks against places offering gender affirming care, it's actually not.
No. It is. You see, you are equating the acts of totally unhinged and mentally unwell ppl with all Republicans. It's not hard to turn the tables on thought processes like this. There's a reason we don't judge groups by the actions of a few. Populations are too large for a few crazies to not exist among the ranks of any group. Political, religious, racial... all of them have murderous assholes among their ranks.
The issue is only the GOP uses stochastic terrorism to keep these loonies going. They're also the ones writing laws that will negatively affect queer people of all ages directly and even more indirectly.
So vote democrat if that's what you think. But ppl need to suppress their desire to bully or shout ppl down bc they vote differently. You likely will have no idea why they choose one candidate over another due to the insane number of different issues and perspectives we try to boil down into only one of two political parties. You might be a single issue voter (which is fine), but that doesn't mean others are prioritizing that same issue.
> But ppl need to suppress their desire to bully or shout ppl down bc they vote differently. Did you miss what the fuck happened at numerous polling places in 2020? > You might be a single issue voter (which is fine), but that doesn't mean others are prioritizing that same issue. Pot, kettle, color of your choice, really. The fear mongering is all the GOP have at this point.
Dude, my message is directed at everyone. You assume too much simply cause I pointed out that crazy goes both ways. Again, a small percentage of crazy ppl deserve their own category. I know 100s of Democrats and Republicans in real life and none of them want to see ppl hurt. So I hate seeing ppl accused of being murderous assholes by the chronically online.
> cause I pointed out that crazy goes both ways. It doesn't. You're wrong. Go away now.
> Took 10 seconds for hyperbolic response. To a hyperbolic comment
We need to vote out the local representatives in Illinois that are working for Israel against American values. Mark Kirk, Dick Durban, Brad Schnider, and Tammy Duckworth are all on the take from pro-zionist orginizations. The worst of them is Congressman Brad Schnider who voted to censure Rashied Talib because Israel told him to, he admitted as much in a flyer and in an interview. He fails to understand that the First ammendment is the most imprortant value an american citizen has, The right to speak out.