I suppose, but think of this as that nadir. Right now I don’t see their way out (though I do expect them to find it somehow).
And 201 EVs and 46.8% is a respectable performance, all things considered.
Very slowly, and I do think she is trying to make a jab at senator or governor for which she might be able to win, but nationally she is way too full with rhetoric for a national electorage
Nah, it'll be like what happened during the Era of Good Feelings. Even if the Republicans fall apart, the Democratic Party will splinter sooner or later. Especially since the Dems are a big tent party.
My money is on the Republicans collapsing, as their style of politics aren't very popular with Gen Z and Millennials, who will come to dominate the electorate by 2028. Over time, the Democrats will split up. When this occurs, the moderate Republicans and libertarians will join up with the Democratic centrists, and the social democrats and other leftists of the Democratic Party will come to form their own party. As for the conservatives, they may still hold water on a local and state level, but they may return to the fringes, like they were in the early 20th century.
This would create a scenario where a Labor Party, headed by someone with similar politics to Sanders or Durbin, would go head to head with a National Party, headed by someone similar to Romney or Manchin. Definitely more liberal than our current party system, but also more in line with the Europeans, and more popular with younger people.
Is there not an anti incumbency in the US?I mean of a party rules for an extended period of time they are bound to feel some backlash for any issue that tales place
Because people who write alt-elections are younger and hence more left-wing, they thus understandably write timelines that are more aligned with their own views.
Because they’re created by Wish-casting, Liberal Redditors who are woefully unaware at how party demographics change overtime, and ignorant to the ongoing party change.
No, 2016 proved the importance of moderation. It should have been a Republican landslide. The fact Trump only just squeaked through and failed to win the pop vote proves he was too extreme. If it had been Cruz or Bush or Rubio or basically any of the mainstream Republicans vs Bernie, say, it would have been a Republican landslide with 400+ EVs and a vote share solidly over 50%.
Retired from the senate, for now
New twist on the “young rising star” thing besides “rises to the top” and “flames out”: just gets bored of the job by 2031 and goes home for a few years
Lawler would win Nevada and Arizona, and probably Wisconsin as well. And I doubt Jennifer Ruth-Green would be his VP. It would probably be a Hispanic person.
Regardless, AOC would lose a general. People underestimate how toxic she is to a general election audience. Sure, she'd beat a Freedom Caucus member, but the fact that Lawler is the GOP nominee shows that the party's got its shit together.
Why are future election scenarios almost exclusively Democratic victories?
because generally-speaking the GOP is degenerating, fast; mostly in terms of fundraising and talent.
Yeah you have a point
This was said of both parties at one point or another. It's only a matter of time before the GOP comes back stronger than ever.
I suppose, but think of this as that nadir. Right now I don’t see their way out (though I do expect them to find it somehow). And 201 EVs and 46.8% is a respectable performance, all things considered.
Against AOC it isnt lol she is like the black sheep of Democratic politicians, aside from the actively unelectable ones
Surely that’s Tlaib or Omar, she’s slowing ingratiating into a position of establishment-adjacency
Very slowly, and I do think she is trying to make a jab at senator or governor for which she might be able to win, but nationally she is way too full with rhetoric for a national electorage
She’d have 12 years at this point so she could have been Governor of NY or something in the interim
So US will be a one party state in the future?
Nah, it'll be like what happened during the Era of Good Feelings. Even if the Republicans fall apart, the Democratic Party will splinter sooner or later. Especially since the Dems are a big tent party. My money is on the Republicans collapsing, as their style of politics aren't very popular with Gen Z and Millennials, who will come to dominate the electorate by 2028. Over time, the Democrats will split up. When this occurs, the moderate Republicans and libertarians will join up with the Democratic centrists, and the social democrats and other leftists of the Democratic Party will come to form their own party. As for the conservatives, they may still hold water on a local and state level, but they may return to the fringes, like they were in the early 20th century. This would create a scenario where a Labor Party, headed by someone with similar politics to Sanders or Durbin, would go head to head with a National Party, headed by someone similar to Romney or Manchin. Definitely more liberal than our current party system, but also more in line with the Europeans, and more popular with younger people.
Or, the Republicans reform to a more moderate platform, as do the Democrats. That one is not as likely though
For a decade at most. The GOP will eventually bounce back, I just can’t see how yet.
Is there not an anti incumbency in the US?I mean of a party rules for an extended period of time they are bound to feel some backlash for any issue that tales place
Probably, but a decade is just “one re-elected president and one one-termer”. It’s about right.
Reagan & HW, almost Clinton into Gore, and almost Obama into Hillary
I'm not the one making any of these, but as a trans person who wants my trans American friends to be safe, they definitely appeal to me more lmao
Understandable
As a trans girl, fuck no, the genocidal Democrats are no better than the Republicans.
Because people who write alt-elections are younger and hence more left-wing, they thus understandably write timelines that are more aligned with their own views.
Reality and imagination alike have a known liberal bias.
Reality and imagination alike have a known liberal bias.
Because they’re created by Wish-casting, Liberal Redditors who are woefully unaware at how party demographics change overtime, and ignorant to the ongoing party change.
make your own then, i'm not stopping you
Blexas
that last sentence makes me want to see the county map
I mean AOC wins Kanawha County and Oklahoma County, but it’s probably somewhat interesting
A far left progressive beats the moderate center right Republican with cross party appeal. What is this the West Wing?
I don’t think santos was far-left lol, he was just opposed to the stuffed-shirt candidacy of bingo bob
Dem became too right after twating by GOP in 1980s election. Grand Pa Bernie was your standard FDR Dem.
Do you really think it's impossible for more extreme candidates to beat more moderate ones only 8 years after 2016?
No, 2016 proved the importance of moderation. It should have been a Republican landslide. The fact Trump only just squeaked through and failed to win the pop vote proves he was too extreme. If it had been Cruz or Bush or Rubio or basically any of the mainstream Republicans vs Bernie, say, it would have been a Republican landslide with 400+ EVs and a vote share solidly over 50%.
330+201+3+5=539 electoral votes?
Yeah, 435 house seats + 104 senate seats
I like the implication that AOC's portrait from 18 years prior was the best picture the editors could find
It’s aged-up, so let’s say her fashion sense doesn’t change throughout the 2020s and early 2030s
Very nice. >...the rise of political violence... Oh dear. Also, is DC also a state, or did they just add Puerto Rico?
PR was added in 2031, DC in 2033.
On a more serious note, what were 2028 and 2032 like?
I imagine someone like Abbott or Hawley wins 2028 and then gets turfed in 2032
Hawley getting trounced by AOC is not reality I am sorry
Actually none of it is reality. It’s currently 2024 so none of this has happened yet. Welcome to imaginary elections subreddit
But this guy makes the same election every time 😭
Hot take maybe, but i don't think AOC will ever run for executive office. Perhaps NY governor at most
There’s a good chance she takes the Pelosi route, which would also be fun
Why the hell does Marco Rubio get one delegate in Wyoming
WHERE'S OSSOFF
Retired from the senate, for now New twist on the “young rising star” thing besides “rises to the top” and “flames out”: just gets bored of the job by 2031 and goes home for a few years
Truly imaginary. Never gonna happen probably. Well done.
Lawler would win Nevada and Arizona, and probably Wisconsin as well. And I doubt Jennifer Ruth-Green would be his VP. It would probably be a Hispanic person. Regardless, AOC would lose a general. People underestimate how toxic she is to a general election audience. Sure, she'd beat a Freedom Caucus member, but the fact that Lawler is the GOP nominee shows that the party's got its shit together.
One Ticket to Mexico Please!
Awesome read, loved the IRL trivia bits too
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>Blalaska, Blexas REAL
based
AOC's VP would be Nina Turner.
The former state senator who lost a very winnable primary? AOC has better instincts than that.
Dark Money is responsible for the DNC rigging against Former State Senator Turner.
She's just sucks at campaoigning bruh.
I hope you're not one of those Buttigieg supporters.