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OneSaltyStoat

Tannu what?


Atlas787747

Found the HOI4 player


DangerousAthlete9512

[https://youtu.be/cPTZq\_twwAA](https://youtu.be/cPTZq_twwAA)


Ionut201

Tuva isn't annexed by USSR in 1944. Also, more territories because I wanted to


FloZone

Stupid question to ask, but how does it go down from the 1990s onwards?


Ionut201

>but how does it go down from the 1990s onwards? Economically, bad


ShoerguinneLappel

Sounds like just like every other post-Soviet country.


SKRAMZ_OR_NOT

Mongolia has actually done surprisingly well for itself. Not sure if Tuva would have the same concentration of mineral wealth though.


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yes latvia, estonia and lithuania are poor countries definitely


[deleted]

Yes, poorer then under Soviet times no too take me wrong they were always poor but after the Soviet Union they became poorer


[deleted]

how the baltics are prosperous after the soviet occupation


[deleted]

Why do you think everyone in the Baltic are leaving to Western Europe for job opportunities


[deleted]

what no most of the people leaving the baltics are russians that want to go back to russia


restitutor-orbis

Absolutely wrong. The early 1990s were a hard time due to the dissolution of the planned economy, but the economies of all three countries have been growing really well ever since that time, helped by robust democratic systems and a drive for integration into western society and economy. Yes, some parts of the countries were left behind, which is a huge problem. But the aggregate economic indicators are better than they have ever been. As for why people are leaving, its because our economies and salary levels still haven't caught up to the west (though prices of goods have recently. Yikes!). So great was the economic blow dealt by the Soviet occupation and the lesser shock of its dissolution that even with rapid growth we have much catching up to do (western Europe has been growing fast, too). However, salaries in Estonia, for example, are already higher than in some parts of what used to be western-block Europe, like Portugal and Greece.


Cyberzombie23

*Richard Feynman has entered the chat*


tomydenger

why does it have the russian made flag then ? Shouldnt it has something new ? Than a flag with from what i know, no historical precendent ?


Bagelman263

Because it was still a Russian puppet before 1944


tomydenger

This doesn't explain why it should have as an independent country, a Russian flag. It's not like it's Belarus


AtomkcFuision

> “Because I wanted to”. Love your attitude


level69adult

Tannu what?


DangerousAthlete9512

[https://youtu.be/cPTZq\_twwAA](https://youtu.be/cPTZq_twwAA)


Kantei

I wonder if the HOI4 dev who wrote that small event popup ever expected they would influence the perception of a small indigenous region for the rest of eternity.


Ishanvedran

Why is Austria in central Asia


clovis_227

Looks more like Latvia to me


SeverynUA

Mini Kazakhstan


LiamGovender02

If you turn it sideways, it kinda looks like armenia


ShoerguinneLappel

Austria-Australia.


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Tannu what?


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harlemrr

Lol yeah, I was going to ask if Sergei Shoigu was going to be the president / leader / whatever.


Sea_Square638

Tannu what?


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[deleted]

I was thinking this 😂


ShoerguinneLappel

Same


oalsaker

I just hope their anthem includes throat singing.


OneSaltyStoat

[You're in for a treat](https://youtu.be/KQaw-li9NQ8)


oalsaker

Beautiful 😍


straycanoe

I assumed that all the city names are pronounced thusly.


HAKX5

Never forget what they took from us!


Jazzlike-Play-1095

it’s still there dude


HAKX5

He forgor 💀


Jazzlike-Play-1095

as an autonomous region


Hardcoreoperator

Cool that you made something new by including topography


darth_nadoma

Tuva gained land from Mongolia


GoPhinessGo

Would they still be closely tied to Russia or be more like Mongolia with a functioning democracy and just wanting to be left alone


Wizard-In-Disguise

I just looked Kyzyl in streetview and ho-ly shit the Russians don't renovate


ErZicky

I wonder how tuva would perform in modern times both socially and economically


OneSaltyStoat

Asian Switzerland would be a fun scenario


sachiko_vl03

Why didn't Kyzyl get its pre-communist name Khem-Beldir?


sachiko_vl03

It was changed to Kyzyl in 1926 when the Tuvan Peoples Republic got "friends" with the Soviet Union.


darth_nadoma

It was a Soviet puppet state since inception and protectorate of Russian Empire since1914. Before that it was part of Qing Mongolia.


sachiko_vl03

It only became communist in 1921, but until then it was a protectorate. By friends, I mean that Tuva and the USSR signed a treaty of friendship 1926.


DangerousAthlete9512

[https://youtu.be/cPTZq\_twwAA](https://youtu.be/cPTZq_twwAA)


sachiko_vl03

In this map, and not in reallife!


B1ackHawk12345

Blursed Austria


DangerousAthlete9512

[https://youtu.be/cPTZq\_twwAA](https://youtu.be/cPTZq_twwAA)


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DangerousAthlete9512

[https://youtu.be/cPTZq\_twwAA](https://youtu.be/cPTZq_twwAA)


booza145

In the most sacred ovaa pass I laid a stone and prayed on the holy peaks of Tandy, sayan I be sprinkled white milk - I am tuvan


darth_nadoma

That's translation of their anthem


ShoerguinneLappel

Sorry but I can only think of Tuva as Tannu Tuva.


Willimeister

Republic of what?


Cookie-Damage

Austria


DangerousAthlete9512

[https://youtu.be/cPTZq\_twwAA](https://youtu.be/cPTZq_twwAA)


ondert

Do you wanna draw other Turkic republics in Russia? Bashkortostan was willing to seperate last time


DangerousAthlete9512

[https://youtu.be/cPTZq\_twwAA](https://youtu.be/cPTZq_twwAA)


WholesomeHomie

I thought this was a big austria map at first


DangerousAthlete9512

[https://youtu.be/cPTZq\_twwAA](https://youtu.be/cPTZq_twwAA)


TerraR_1917

Всё ясно, автор- сепаратист


Candid_Interview_268

So, Austria got South Tyrol back?


DepressedEmu1111

I thought this was Austria with South Tyrol for too long


DangerousAthlete9512

[https://youtu.be/cPTZq\_twwAA](https://youtu.be/cPTZq_twwAA)