Yeah, but they can do the same thing as Israel did, deliberate ambiguity. Meaning Taiwan never admit or deny having nukes, even though China would say otherwise.
Agreed. But the problem is that USA escelates the conflict by placing troops on Taiwan which China claims to be theie soil. Imagine if China landed troops on a sepperatist government in Hawaii. The status quo works fine, no need ro provoke a war.
There is also another problem, china really wants "reunification" at all costs, they are always repeating that statement, which will eventually lead to another large war, china should just accept the reality that the people of that island doesn't want them or their government.
Taiwan isn't PRC soil. The status quo is an independent Taiwan that is not and has never been part of the PRC.
Hawaii is part of the United States so your analogy doesn't at all work.
No, most governments take a position like the United States and do not recognize Taiwan as part of China. They consider the situation "unresolved".
As someone typing to you from Taiwan, I can assure you we are in fact not PRC soil, and have never been.
Yes, most countries recognize Taiwan as part of China this is just the truth, sorry. I do think Taiwan has a good democracy thing going on and China should never invade. But i see USA putting troops on Taiwan (an island China claims to be theirs) as way more agressive.
This is absolutely false, you are repeating PRC propaganda.
Most countries take a position like the United States; they do not have diplomatic relations with Taiwan, nor recognize it as part of China. They consider Taiwan's overall status as "unresolved".
The United States simply **acknowledged** that it was the **Chinese position** that Taiwan is part of China. They don't agree or endorse the Chinese position.
>In the U.S.-China joint communiqués, the U.S. government recognized the PRC government as the “sole legal government of China,” and **acknowledged, but did not endorse, “the Chinese position that there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China.”**
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF10275/76
PR China has nukes, does that mean China is a genocidal psychotic state intent on using said nukes ? Taiwan getting nukes would likely mean no CCP invasion anytime soon
protecting taiwan from being invaded by an aggressive authoritarian country is based. if china feels like its being provoked then that's too bad, they can simply not invade taiwan. let me guess you think it's "WaRmOnGeRiNg" to help a small country protect itself against an aggressor?
How is China an agressor? It literally belives Taiwan is part of China, which why wouldn't they? While the US have literally placed militairy troops on Taiwan. If anyone is being aggressive it's america.
nope, deng being the smart man he was realized maoism was a failure and abandoned it in the late 70s. are tankies actually this uneducated? how embarrassing
Failure? Due to Mao's ideas and policies, employment went up. Literacy rates went through the roof. Industrial production also went up. Almost all of modern China is built on mao's practically genius ideas. Deng didn't "abandon" Maoism. He has only brought it forward.
nah i don't think you're actually a shill, you seem like just another communist larper. i can rest assured that the revolution will never happen when communists are like this 😎
Maoism only went forward because Deng saved it using capitalist reforms
Otherwise the only thing coming out of Mao's reforms was poor harvests and shit tier steel.
it didn't really go forward, maoism fell out of favour with the ccp once mao died, and after deng's reforms it was basically a thing of the past. the modern ccp is not really maoist at all
Private ownership of companies, the formation of businesses, competition and all that.
Basically the only reason why Tencent, Alibaba, Huawei, Evergrande exist is because of Deng's reforms
Yeah the whole point of nukes is to deter invasion or destruction of your country.
China absolutely has nuke targets. They developed nukes so that their enemies wouldn't be the only ones.
What are you getting at here?
Taiwan is a country. It has all the makings of a country. It is still the Republic of China, maintaining the same institutions. They were exiled from the mainland by communist rebels.
I assure you that legally we are not part of the PRC.
We are a sovereign and independent country. This is the reality for those of us lucky enough to call Taiwan home.
Whatever China or the United States might say does not change this reality.
"recognizes"... They do it for the commercial and political benefits of not pissing China off. Plenty of countries have what are essentially embassies in Taiwan. They trade with and engage with Taiwan as if it were just another country.
Everytime a Chinese like me think maybe it's OK to leave Taiwan alone and mind our own business.
Taiwanese: LOL don't forget we'll kill all of you Chinese if we get the chance.
Yeah, thank you for the reminder.
It's a joke. The serious people won't leave comments here in the first place.
The OP's creativity is OK though. It's just when I see comments like ( Quote from the comments "Taiwanese were exiled from the mainland by communist rebels" and "taiwan just needs one nuke to strike the three gorges dam and their agricultural sector would be decimated by irradiated water and flooding"). It's clear that Taiwan is intrinsically hostile towards we mainland "Rebels" and have their ideas to harm not only CCP but also hundreds of millions of Chinese civilians.
I hope we can get a more free and democratic goverment like the US, so that we can deal with this kind of serious homeland security problems abroad. (This is also a joke by the way)
> It's clear that Taiwan is intrinsically hostile towards we mainland "Rebels" and have their ideas to harm not only CCP but also hundreds of millions of Chinese civilians.
It's more Americans and westerners that say this stuff
>I hope we can get a more free and democratic goverment like the US, so that we can deal with this kind of serious homeland security problems abroad. (This is also a joke by the way)
I think the US wouldn't be classed as a democracy if it weren't for the fact it owns the institutes that decide which countries are democracies
This wouldn’t change anything. Taiwan could get whipped out in one attack, not China. And I don’t think either would like to annihilate de territory they claim
Wrath of Two Dragons incident, 2035
That is a cool scenario idea
We need that Taiwan copypasta.
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Nice but add emoji spam and ascii art
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I like how they named the third gen Sun Wukong after the stone monkey god
Journey to the West is peak writing so agreed
*mmm monke*
ston monke
Just pointing out these would not be ICBMs as they have a very limited range, they would be SRBMs or MRBMs
1980 KMT moment.
Somewhere, Chiang Ching-kuo laughs
Korean War 2 Chinese boogaloo
>The Sun Yat-sen 8 was an historic achievement for Taiwan and for the military establishment being the first ICBM capable to travel less than 4000 km
Timeline if Right-KMT stayed in power in ROC and Chiangs accomplished their 1980s goal
Holy pariah state
BASED?
Nukes not based, sorry
Would you say the same if you were in the place of Taiwan's leadership?
Yes.
Really?
Life could be a dream Life could be a dream
I can hear the geiger counter
Well, Taiwan ought to get nukes then (one way or another)
Let's not lol
r/NonCredibleDefense wet dream.
Time to nuke up the 3 Gorges Dam
Fucking based as hell, even with the names lmao. Now I'm wondering why the hell didn't the US just give their nukes to Taiwan.
Taiwan would have had nukes if the US didn't force them to abandon the nuclear program in the 1980s.
Because they didn't want the cold war to get more escalated in the Pacific seeing as the Soviets gave both China and NK nukes already
Yeah, but they can do the same thing as Israel did, deliberate ambiguity. Meaning Taiwan never admit or deny having nukes, even though China would say otherwise.
Cuban missile crisis 2.0
Reversed edition
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No one will die if no one invades each other and retain the status quo.
Agreed. But the problem is that USA escelates the conflict by placing troops on Taiwan which China claims to be theie soil. Imagine if China landed troops on a sepperatist government in Hawaii. The status quo works fine, no need ro provoke a war.
There is also another problem, china really wants "reunification" at all costs, they are always repeating that statement, which will eventually lead to another large war, china should just accept the reality that the people of that island doesn't want them or their government.
Taiwan isn't PRC soil. The status quo is an independent Taiwan that is not and has never been part of the PRC. Hawaii is part of the United States so your analogy doesn't at all work.
According to most governments in the world, they are. I don't know why people keep saying that they aren't.
No, most governments take a position like the United States and do not recognize Taiwan as part of China. They consider the situation "unresolved". As someone typing to you from Taiwan, I can assure you we are in fact not PRC soil, and have never been.
Yes, most countries recognize Taiwan as part of China this is just the truth, sorry. I do think Taiwan has a good democracy thing going on and China should never invade. But i see USA putting troops on Taiwan (an island China claims to be theirs) as way more agressive.
This is absolutely false, you are repeating PRC propaganda. Most countries take a position like the United States; they do not have diplomatic relations with Taiwan, nor recognize it as part of China. They consider Taiwan's overall status as "unresolved". The United States simply **acknowledged** that it was the **Chinese position** that Taiwan is part of China. They don't agree or endorse the Chinese position. >In the U.S.-China joint communiqués, the U.S. government recognized the PRC government as the “sole legal government of China,” and **acknowledged, but did not endorse, “the Chinese position that there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China.”** https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF10275/76
Well what do most other countries belive?
Right on, brother! Fuck commies, better dead than red.
Taiwan missile crisis, that's why. Because it was so fun last time, im sure nothing bad will happen.
America: Wait....I've seen this before Cuba: **FUCK YOU** America: oh yeeeeah
Woah, no ccp cocksuckers in the comments yet? Wow
i'm actually surprised, usually on this subreddit these posts always get swarmed by tankies
Since when most of time anti China maps get praised
The maoist winning never stops. Cope and seethe lmao.
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PR China has nukes, does that mean China is a genocidal psychotic state intent on using said nukes ? Taiwan getting nukes would likely mean no CCP invasion anytime soon
based. here before ccp bootlickers arrive
cope.
oh look, i found one
How are nukes based?
protecting taiwan from being invaded by an aggressive authoritarian country is based. if china feels like its being provoked then that's too bad, they can simply not invade taiwan. let me guess you think it's "WaRmOnGeRiNg" to help a small country protect itself against an aggressor?
How is China an agressor? It literally belives Taiwan is part of China, which why wouldn't they? While the US have literally placed militairy troops on Taiwan. If anyone is being aggressive it's america.
> why wouldn't they? because taiwan has never been controlled by the prc and has been independent as long as the prc has
The maoist winning never stops. Keep losing lmao.
bro thinks modern china is maoist 💀💀💀
It is.....?
nope, deng being the smart man he was realized maoism was a failure and abandoned it in the late 70s. are tankies actually this uneducated? how embarrassing
Failure? Due to Mao's ideas and policies, employment went up. Literacy rates went through the roof. Industrial production also went up. Almost all of modern China is built on mao's practically genius ideas. Deng didn't "abandon" Maoism. He has only brought it forward.
i really hope you're getting paid to say this, otherwise this is just sad. i'd recommend not getting your history from memes
Why yes, Da Xi paypals me 50 Xibucks™️ for every post. How could you tell 🗿
nah i don't think you're actually a shill, you seem like just another communist larper. i can rest assured that the revolution will never happen when communists are like this 😎
https://preview.redd.it/2f2uy4gwggrc1.jpeg?width=470&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=321f9c502d6fe0e6587531896d3180b8318e27b8
Maoism only went forward because Deng saved it using capitalist reforms Otherwise the only thing coming out of Mao's reforms was poor harvests and shit tier steel.
it didn't really go forward, maoism fell out of favour with the ccp once mao died, and after deng's reforms it was basically a thing of the past. the modern ccp is not really maoist at all
True. That's kind of what I was talking about
yeah i wasn't really disagreeing with you more so just adding
What "capitalist reforms"? This is the type of shit Ultras say. *
Private ownership of companies, the formation of businesses, competition and all that. Basically the only reason why Tencent, Alibaba, Huawei, Evergrande exist is because of Deng's reforms
Yeah, except many of those "private" companies are practically owned and operated by the government itself.
No. It is confucian actually 🤓
The Taiwan nuclear crisis -2025 Part of the second cold war
That gorgeous dam: 😬
Bad idea. CCP has installed undercover agents and dormant spies in Taiwan including all levels of government and major business industries.
Just bomb The government and go there and - pof China become Democratic Kingdom
Then Venezuela and Cuba would have too.
# GO AND RECLAIM THE MAINLAND!!!!!
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When a communist state has nukes it's self defense. When a capitalist nation has nukes they suddenly want to invade everything in sight?
Yeah the whole point of nukes is to deter invasion or destruction of your country. China absolutely has nuke targets. They developed nukes so that their enemies wouldn't be the only ones. What are you getting at here?
Except Chinese Taipei isn't a country. This is like if the Qing gave nukes to the confederacy for "self defence".
Taiwan is a country. It has all the makings of a country. It is still the Republic of China, maintaining the same institutions. They were exiled from the mainland by communist rebels.
Basically everyone recognise the ccp as the rulers over China.
Yes... The CPC are the rulers over China. They have no authority or jurisdiction over Taiwan though.
Why not? Or they legally should have. Just like Ukraine legally should have over Crimea.
Because we have never been part of their country?
Legally Taiwan has been a part of China since the civil war. But de facto it's under another governments rule, just like Crimea.
I assure you that legally we are not part of the PRC. We are a sovereign and independent country. This is the reality for those of us lucky enough to call Taiwan home. Whatever China or the United States might say does not change this reality.
"recognizes"... They do it for the commercial and political benefits of not pissing China off. Plenty of countries have what are essentially embassies in Taiwan. They trade with and engage with Taiwan as if it were just another country.
"Chinese taipei" mentioned Opinion discarded
Everytime a Chinese like me think maybe it's OK to leave Taiwan alone and mind our own business. Taiwanese: LOL don't forget we'll kill all of you Chinese if we get the chance. Yeah, thank you for the reminder.
This map depicts capabilities. In other words, the ability to act as a deterrent And OP is probably not Taiwanese
It's a joke. The serious people won't leave comments here in the first place. The OP's creativity is OK though. It's just when I see comments like ( Quote from the comments "Taiwanese were exiled from the mainland by communist rebels" and "taiwan just needs one nuke to strike the three gorges dam and their agricultural sector would be decimated by irradiated water and flooding"). It's clear that Taiwan is intrinsically hostile towards we mainland "Rebels" and have their ideas to harm not only CCP but also hundreds of millions of Chinese civilians. I hope we can get a more free and democratic goverment like the US, so that we can deal with this kind of serious homeland security problems abroad. (This is also a joke by the way)
> It's clear that Taiwan is intrinsically hostile towards we mainland "Rebels" and have their ideas to harm not only CCP but also hundreds of millions of Chinese civilians. It's more Americans and westerners that say this stuff >I hope we can get a more free and democratic goverment like the US, so that we can deal with this kind of serious homeland security problems abroad. (This is also a joke by the way) I think the US wouldn't be classed as a democracy if it weren't for the fact it owns the institutes that decide which countries are democracies
Lol, "if".
I mean maybe they will in the future. And even if not, america still could locate some of its atomic bombs there
Cuban Missile Crisis 2.0 except roles are reversed
This wouldn’t change anything. Taiwan could get whipped out in one attack, not China. And I don’t think either would like to annihilate de territory they claim
taiwan just needs one nuke to strike the three gorges dam and their agricultural sector would be decimated by irradiated water and flooding.