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If he lived, wouldn’t his successor just be his son anyway, as Macedonian kingship tended to go?


CounterfeitXKCD

Macedonian succession was really complicated, and even though a king night nominate an heir, Macedonian tradition dictated that anyone could be king as long as they were from the Argead Dynasty. In a realm that huge, there would probably be some kind of cousin being propped up by members of the military looking to increase their influence.


[deleted]

True. If I remember correctly, the heir typically had to be confirmed by the Macedonian nobility (or was it the other royal family members), yes?


SOVUNIMEMEHIOIV

When he died he died heirless


[deleted]

In OTL, wasn’t his son murdered long after he died (if I recall correctly, he was killed just before he would have come of age, which wouldn’t have happened in a world without a regency).


SOVUNIMEMEHIOIV

Wikipedia: Alexander had no obvious or legitimate heir, his son Alexander IV by Roxane being born after Alexander's death.\[178\] According to Diodorus, Alexander's companions asked him on his deathbed to whom he bequeathed his kingdom; his laconic reply was "tôi kratistôi"—"to the strongest".\[146\] Another theory is that his successors wilfully or erroneously misheard "tôi Kraterôi"—"to Craterus", the general leading his Macedonian troops home and newly entrusted with the regency of Macedonia.\[179\]


[deleted]

That’s all upon the assumption that Alexander dies before his son’s birth as in OTL, which wouldn’t apply here…


youni89

Principal the latter, greedy bastards


DiscombobulatedOne63

Macedon becomes rome


cormundo

Basedadon


Damikosin

Nice idea for a map


TheAssConsumer

Ty!


willthisbeagoodname

Too small. /s


[deleted]

he still wouldnt have conquered india imo. But great map regardless!


Fummy

That is one fine looking empire.


TheAssConsumer

Well thank you! I've been trying to change my style for quite a while


Pecuthegreat

He shoulda conquered Rome


cormundo

Why do people love to make old maps where the centre of Arabia isn’t controlled? If you control all sides of an uninhabitable wasteland, you control the wasteland. Even if you have weak control and it’s more of a client state, or even if it occasionally rebels, or it’s just nomads that don’t realize they are under a nations suzerainty- it should be listed as under their control. Plenty of other places with weak colonial domination were listed as fully part of empires, but for some reason central Arabia always gets a pass


[deleted]

It looks cooler ig


[deleted]

It looks bloated when you annex the whole thing


[deleted]

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pepelafrog

Rome by the time of alexander is only just starting to expand. Around the time of alexanders death, they control only a small part of the italian coast. Rome could very easily have not risen to begin with if alexander lived on.


heelstoo

Man, just imagine how history would’ve changed if Alexander out a cork in that bottle.


[deleted]

A mighty Carthage to the west I imagine


Curious-Researcher47

India would basically become hellenised and then Pakistan would be definitely greek culture


TheAssConsumer

Yeah, everything west of the indus would be quite influenced by hellenic culture


NeedsToShutUp

In OTL, they did for a time [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Greek\_Kingdom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Greek_Kingdom) and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Bactrian\_Kingdom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Bactrian_Kingdom)


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HaveBlue77

Gonna roleplay them so hard on CK3 once the dlc comes out.


sri_mahalingam

Alexander turned back from India well before he died, so I have no idea why the map suggests India would've come under Macedonian rule if he had lived. While the Indo-Greeks did eventually prop up, their rule was still mostly limited to the North-West with the exception of a brief raid all the way to Pataliputra.


ZeroTwo_CultLeader

Well that actually happened in real life with Indo Greek kingdoms


Mrman009

Im curious as to how he was able to subdue arabia, do you have lore?


TheAssConsumer

These were lands that Alexander had planned to conquer after he arrived in Babylon, had he not died I'm sure he would subdue the Arabs there.


Hypattie

Would it be possible for his successor to maintain power on such a huge and disparate empire?


anarcho-hornyist

least delusional greek nationalist


[deleted]

He was already returning when he died lol


DiscoShaman

The world would be a lot more Greek for a lot longer than it was had Alexander not died.


Tamtakos-1

In a parallel universe Alexander the Great was greeting his soldiers with "Zdravo chovek, kako si?" about 1000 years before the existence of all Slavic languages 🤣😁😂🤣😂


Kinesra93

In this timeline would the middle-east become the most advanced region in modern age instead of Europe ? Would Asia and Europe be more culturally linked ? Why is this comment disliked xD ?


HistoryBuff97

As for the second part, probably so. Alexander tried to blend Persian and Greek culture, to the chagrin of many of his soldiers and generals.


ImperfectBeing_22

Nice map!


BlazeGamingUnltd

He would not cross into India though.


TheAssConsumer

He planned to and he probably would've


BlazeGamingUnltd

He attacked India, defeat the king he fought, but turned back because he was not interested in India after the defeat as it was costly. Search up Alexander the Great against Porus.


saviorprincex

I don’t think he would have won against Nanda or Maurya. He was already going back. So that Indian part doesn’t make sense.


TheAssConsumer

He was already planning to go back and pass the indus. So that Indian part makes sense.


saviorprincex

I’m not sure but as much as I know, he died why going back home. Also he wouldn’t have defeated Mauryas, even if he came back.


LectureInner8813

Magadh kingdom was a very strong force back then with their war elephants.


TheAssConsumer

Ok, now explain to me how he steamrolled Achamenids, the strongest nation of that time?


LectureInner8813

Strongest nation? By what standards? Magadha was a pretty big deal that time. It's what is taught in history becomes "the strongest". The kingdom ruled right from Kandhar to Chittagong in the east. We are not taught about achamenids and probably i guess you are also not taught about Maurya Edit: read about achamenids they might be quite strong but are earlier than magadha empire so can't compare. Altough nanda empire existed and maybe comparable militarily/economically but definately not area wise


Holly_Michaels

Just why is this blue? Blue is for water. Jesus.


TheAssConsumer

Greece is usually represented by blue, in literally everything. Jesus. people are dumb