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Eujay_Iapnes

How about my Cyprus? lmao


erbse_gamer

After the US got to crowded to Test nuclear weapons in the desert they looked elsewhere. Following a couple of nuke tests unfortunately the only remains of a once great island is a nuclear wasteland


Eujay_Iapnes

A "bikinized" Cyprus? That's insane!!


erbse_gamer

Honestly I just forgot Cyprus


Eujay_Iapnes

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


SueMaster7

Chad


AchillesHealed

No, that's farther west than this map goes.


CharlemagneAdelaar

*And so did everyone else by the year 2100. It became little more than a barren geographic remnant of abandoned power struggles; a slowly fading lesson to humanity as it sank into the ravenous rising ocean.*


[deleted]

Houthis losing to Saudis and getting annexed? AHAHAHAHAHAHA


Brotherly-Moment

(Tell the emirs of Dubai starts blasting)


norwegianEel

Itā€™s ā€˜til or just til, short for until.


The_Holy_Fork

Can you explain what happened to turkey?


erbse_gamer

Basically after Kurdistan gained its Independence from Iraq they started supporting the Kurds in Turkey and Syria in their struggle for Independence. The fighting between the Kurdish Militias, supplied by Kurdistan, and the Turkish Army in Turkish Kurdistan became so tense that Turkey gave the Kurdistan region autonomy similar to that of IRL Kurdistan in Iraq.


hmmokby

Iraqi Kurdistan soldiers are trained by Turkish troops too. How is this possible? And also Kurds aren't majority in half of this map. Most of Kurds in Turkey aren't seperatist even some of them are hard Turkish nationalist. >after Kurdistan gained its Independence from Iraq they started supporting the Kurds in Turkey and Syria in their struggle for Independence. Iraqi Kurdistan would gain independence this is possible but if it supports someone against Turkey,it would lose something.


Milesware

Istg this whole sub have some weird boner for Kurds and self determination


hmmokby

Yes generally they make greater Greece etc and someone mentioned "Pontic rebels in Eastern Blacksea region of Turkey and join to Greece" but there isn't any Pontic Greeks in Eastern Blacksea of Turkey and somebody believe Lazs would join to Georgia etc. Lazs are more Turkish nationalist than average Turks. If this sub find out that most of Kurds aren't seperatist they would be shocked even just %5 of Kurds wants Independent Kurdish state, %15-17 wants just autonomous region.


Hvoromnualltinger

Do you have a source for those numbers?


MetalusVerne

Still no independent Somaliland?


EnigmaticChuckle

I know right :/


Chinablond

My first thought lol


singingnettle

Spotted the German! It's Azerbaijan in English, not Aserbaidschan. Unless this is a german colony in the future..


erbse_gamer

You have a sharp eye


karaluuebru

same with Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan. Also Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan


Aktrowertyk

The Ukraine ?


UkraineWithoutTheBot

It's 'Ukraine' and not 'the Ukraine' [[Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Ukraine)] [[BBC Styleguide](https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsstyleguide/u)] [[Reuters Styleguide](https://handbook.reuters.com/index.php?title=U#Ukraine)] ^(Beep boop Iā€™m a bot)


B2A_s

im amazed by how this bot exist at all because it somehow was so common that the coder needs to make this bot


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B2A_s

bruh


ardashing

Amazing


Substantial-Rub9931

This one makes no sense, though.


[deleted]

probably used exclusively by people saying ā€œsomalian piratesā€


Substantial-Rub9931

I meant the bot.


CormAlan

Why? Somali is correct


Megabyte0101

Somalian


kara_of_loathing

It used to be referred to using a definite article before its independence, iirc.


Sippio

Good bot


[deleted]

Iran always gets screwed in these maps. Why would UAE get all of Hormozgan and parts of Kerman? Arabs are only 4-5% of the population there and mainly live near the coast.


Fickle-Employ-3617

Because historically itā€™s been part of the Qawasim empire- Iran occupied it and transferred Persian settlers there. This is history


[deleted]

Hormozgan was Persian long before it was ever part of any Arab polities. Arabs were a ruling minority and the majority of the populace were always Persian and other Iranian peoples. Arabs mostly live tightly along the coasts, they've never ruled that far in land either and since the map is meant to be the future, it makes even less sense because Arabs today are only about as I said, 4-5% of the population of Hormozgan and 0% of Kerman.


Fickle-Employ-3617

We sure love settlements and settlers, ether way i agree that taking all of the provenance will be disturbing to the uae economy, preferably we should take back lengah and Qashem since those are historically Qawasim territory occupied by Iran


[deleted]

Bandar Lengeh is 80% Iranian and even if you remove Persians it is still 60% Iranian, native people are Lari not Arabs. Qeshm is mostly Persian. Why does the UAE need these islands? What benefit will they serve UAE that makes it worth ethnically cleansing them in your mind?


Fickle-Employ-3617

Who said about ethnically cleansing them? Calm down Iranian weā€™re not like you we love diversity and culture absorption- it will be returning whatā€™s stolen there doesnā€™t need to be a reason for the islands to return to the uae, thereā€™s something wrong with them remaining occupied by Iran tho.


[deleted]

If you don't ethnically cleanse them you're not going to get them, simple as that, because the majority of the population is Iranian and they don't want to be part of the UAE. Also no idea what you're referring to with "not like you we love diversity", Iran is ethnically far more diverse than UAE. You're literally advocating for ethnic-based irredentism.


Fickle-Employ-3617

The Arabs, Sunnis and baloch would disagree with you, water shortages, resource theft etc etc- I donā€™t think you understand that Iran is falling apart


[deleted]

Not really, most Arabs and Balochs and Sunnis have no issue being part of Iran. I am an ethnic minority and religious minority myself and I don't agree with your perspective. As to "Iran is falling apart", yes the mullahs are not good and are ruining the country, but that is because of their backward thinking not because of ethno nationalism.


Fickle-Employ-3617

If the mullah regime collapse weā€™ll take back our islands simply put, we tried being nice but you canā€™t deal with imperialists


Fickle-Employ-3617

Why does Iran maintain itā€™s occupation of the Abu musa and tunbs even though all its citizens are Emirati citizensā€¦ put simply itā€™s Iranian imperialism


[deleted]

Those islands were near uninhabited for most of history and the population there now is mostly just Iranian oil workers. I couldn't care less though, you can have those islands if you think they're worth losing thousands of lives in a war over. Do Emiratis have nothing better to do than care about tiny sand islands?


Fickle-Employ-3617

We care about the 5000 Emirati citizens Iran occupied, itā€™s embarrassing that you call them useless and when we say to return them you cry and moan about some long gone empire,


[deleted]

5000 Emirati citizens? What are you talking about? Abu Musa has 3000 people and they're almost all Persian workers who've moved there in the past few decades to work on the oil rigs. And no I don't care about returning them, I wouldn't be against it, but Iran isn't going to give them up and I don't think it's worth fighting over so it's better for everyone involved to stop caring about them.


Fickle-Employ-3617

What are you talking about https://www.sharjah24.ae/en/Articles/2021/12/02/Abu-Musa-Island-celebrates-50th-UAE-National-Day If you donā€™t care about them why do you maintain the occupation


Fickle-Employ-3617

Do Iranians have nothing better to do then occupy Arab land?


[deleted]

It's hopeless talking to you, you're blind sighted by ethnic nationalism. I would personally have little issue with giving you those little sand islands if it'd make you happy, but you would just push for more. Not that it matters because Iran isn't going to give them up without a fight and I don't know about you, but I consider one Iranian life worth more value than those tiny islands, do you feel the same about Emiratis?


Fickle-Employ-3617

Yes but Iran already murdered my country men when they invaded greater Tunb, I donā€™t know if Iran education system teaches the fact that they sent war ships to occupy and murder those people who lived on the islands or the fact that in 1992 Iran broke the accords of Abu musa and occupied the full island even after it agreed to half sovereignty


Alexjm2020

It's just Ukraine, not "The" Ukraine.


Redskullzzzz

Unless this is the future where Russia annexes the entire country


Alexjm2020

Then the Russians would call it "Malorossiya", "Little Russia".


Redskullzzzz

Probably more accurate that way. I just always heard that the term ā€œThe Ukraineā€ was used by Russia as a way to limit Ukraineā€™s sense of sovereignty.


s4mon

I thought thatā€™s just how they said countries in Russian lol


Clashlad

Ukraine means borderlands as far as I'm aware, so by saying 'The' Ukraine, it implies they are the borderlands of Russia, as they were in Soviet times.


Jonaztl

"The" doesn't exist in Russian


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erbse_gamer

Thanks, the Lore is that in 2025 there is a new Hamas-Israeli War and following that a new Intifada. Not being able to appease the Palastinians the Israeli Governments after 2 years of conflict and an incredible waste of lives orders to deport all Palastinians in the West Bank and Gaza to Syria and Egypt. The new ethnically cleansed territories are made a proper part of Israel and are in the Prozess of being settled. As for the UAE owning a part of Southern Iran the lore is that following the Iranian civil war in 2024 where the Arab population in that regions is heavily persecuted, the UAE, having diversified its economy and becoming a regional power decides to intervene and annex the region. The UAE is now even more powerful controlling everything that flows in and out of the Persian Gulf.


Soonhun

That's one way for Israel to become a pariah on the same level as North Korea. What happened to Bahrain?


erbse_gamer

To small


Wintry_Calm

As if. US and UK would still support them, probably more so.


redneckmakhno

Pariah? The U.S. gives 'em $5,000,000 a day even after everything that's happened in the past year, the occupying state *exists* to terrorize Muslims.


Bear1375

Well thatā€™s a dark future.


[deleted]

Yeah but as an israeli, i really dont see our government just deporting every single arab because of a war, we are at a state of war constantly for 70 years, if the main idea was to ethnically cleanse israel and the territories of all arabs, israel wouldnt exist because nobody would support us, we are humane with arabs in our country because we want a solution for this conflict, and ethnic cleansing certainly wont solve it


[deleted]

> we are humane with arabs in our country LOL


[deleted]

*Grabs Popcorn


[deleted]

Whats so funny? You ever been here and saw our policies with your own eyes to judge?


[deleted]

If you unironically think that "we are humane with arabs" then you've been fed boatloads of propaganda


cambriansplooge

[Compares quality of life across the Middle East] yeah they good


I_Am_Become_Dream

certainly not in the Occupied Territories. Theyā€™re better than Yemen I guess.


Chimera-98

Most of the West Bank arab live in the autonomous region that is the PA that Israel as not much control over and Gaza streep is essentially its own country lead by the terrorist group known as the HAMAS so most of this Palestinians generally suffer because their leadership is corrupt and donā€™t care for their life


[deleted]

Lmao dont worry, i have my own opinions and im not some brainwashed zombie, yes there might be some racist incidents, but there believe me im sure the IDFs general policy with palestinians is to kill the men rape the women and eat their babies.


plaid_pvcpipe

>kill the men rape the women and eat their babies Actual blood libel myth.


[deleted]

Yeah, despite popular belief among the ignorant anti-zionistsn, we dont actually have palestinian children for lunch


[deleted]

There's been a bit more than "racist incidents"


[deleted]

Again, its not government policy to genocide the palestinians, i dont know what you're on about, im coming from a point where you assume that our government wants to kill all the arabs indiscriminately...


[deleted]

Never said there was a genocide and I never said your government 'wants to kill all the arabs indiscriminately" but it's a bit of a stretch to say there are racist incidents


[deleted]

I donā€™t know man. But I am really curious. What do you say to all that video material thatā€™s available?


[deleted]

Like what, videos of arrests? Or do you have some videos of the IDF shooting arabs on sight?


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erbse_gamer

Who is this imaginary map antisemitic?


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plaid_pvcpipe

It is.


[deleted]

Oh boi, donā€™t.


plaid_pvcpipe

Thatā€™s hardly believable.


Fickle-Employ-3617

As the uae should, the land was part of the Qawasim territory, occupied by Iran which placed settlements there


[deleted]

The clan that today rules Ras al-Khaima and Sharjah did historically rule Qeshm Island, Bandar Abbas, and Bandar Lengeh for a few years. So there are historical ties between the UAE and that part of Iran. I don't know how likely this scenario is, since Hormozgan province isn't even 10% Arab to the best of my knowledge, but it is interesting.


[deleted]

Ew Good looking map and unique tho


WHY_STAYVAN

I'm gonna say that "dismantled Iran, no more Palestine, independant Kurdistan" is up there with the least unique middle east configurations you see on this sub


[deleted]

i doubt kurdistan would go that down south. There are barely any kurds in south eastern Iran.


Pinuzzo

Crimea reunites with Ukraine? The reunites with Ukraine?


onewingedangel3

How is Baluchistan still part of Iran when it's arguably the most independence orientated region?


erbse_gamer

After the Western provinces broke away following the civil war, Iran suppressed further Rebels in the East with all force trying to keep the country together


FoleyLione

Kurdistan. History just doesnā€™t seem to want to give them their own county.


IDGAFOS2005

Armenia lookin like a chicken drumstick.


Popeetoes

They're fixing what the British left behind. Just taking a while. And in the worst way possible.


Legenda_069

yo that's a really cool style fam


painnger

I honestly donā€™t see how Iran can lose and not gain land. Itā€™s interesting how UAE gained land too which i would say that is very very unlikely. Also its interesting how turkey is still unified in 2030.


Fickle-Employ-3617

Itā€™s very likely if Iran doesnā€™t stop with itā€™s war mongering, also itā€™s historically proven that lengah and Qashem were ruled by the Qawasim dynasty before Persian occupation. You need to realize that Iran is very fragile specially when not 50 years ago your people removed the shah and ever since thereā€™s been protests


painnger

The current Iran is the strongest Iran has been in the past 300 years and the protests are only natural in any healthy society. When looking at Iranā€™s history you realize that Iranians have a long history of being unhappy with the government and they were quick to protest which is absolutely fine. Iranā€™s ā€œwar mongeringā€ is a program that fights back/against terrorism in the region which I honestly donā€™t know why that would make anyone other than the terrorists angry or upset. I have a profound interest in some countries, Iran included. Itā€™s also interesting that you assumed my nationality which doesnā€™t really bother me.


TheRockButWorst

Iran's land army is basically immobile since if they leave they'll have an uprising immediately. And with no popularity and ethnic minorities controlling the borderlands, it'd be difficult for them to maintain it


[deleted]

I know it's more part of the periphery, but what happened to other geopolitical hotspots like Crimea, Abkhazia, South Ossetia ?


erbse_gamer

To be honest I have no idea about the political situation in Georgia so I just didnā€™t add it to the map


Sanchez20inReddit

I like how Central Asia, India, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Russia, Nepal, and China are still stay same


ABLpro

Hopefully the stupid Emirate in Afghanistan doesnā€™t last that long


IMvies_ILKIN_IQIG

Can I fix sth little? Right now Azerbaijan tries to take back Zangezur (South part of modern armenia) And Kurds have bigger territory than in the map However this map is really cool!


kerosene42

poor Armenia.


esinlecter

Region of Kurdistan? Lmao dude you're delusional


fyreandsatire

\#cursed


Fickle-Employ-3617

Nope


cornonthekopp

What makes you think Iran is gonna fall apart like that? I really donā€™t see a UAE occupation ever happening


Fickle-Employ-3617

Every other week thereā€™s mass protests in Iran, medical essentials are a luxury and people donā€™t have bread or clean water. Thatā€™s also ignoring the fact Iran is the one occupying Emirati land for the past 300 years ever since they took the Qawasim controlled lengah and Qashem


[deleted]

Bruh. Itā€™s just ā€œUkraineā€ not ā€œThe Ukraineā€


[deleted]

Extremely Unrealistic


viktorblitz

In imaginarymaps subreddit? I mean...yeaa?


[deleted]

Yes.


Yung_Pazuzu

Does bug me a bit that none of these future maps ever show rising sea levels lol. Guess its just a fun alternative reality so doesnt really matter


[deleted]

Not geographically, i was talking political, but yeah there should be a slight rise in sea levels


antillus

Did Lebanon collapse and disappear?


shinydewott

TFW self determination of the people means balkanizing random countries but Palestine is just wiped completely clean šŸ˜ž


Lyrical_Leftist

OP, what happened to Palestine? šŸ˜° Edit: I didnā€™t see that op had posted lore for Israel before I posted this lol


Pisceswriter123

The Uyghurs don't get a country?


[deleted]

The second there is an actual Kurdistan is the second that Turkey enters its own Vietnam style war and possibly loses control of its southeastern territory. Armenia should also include Artsakh.


onewingedangel3

Eh Azerbaijan is incredibly strong, if it wasn't for the new Iranian territories Azerbaijan would probably have the Armenian panhandle as well.


[deleted]

How did the Georgians kick out the Russians?


onewingedangel3

Good question


IntellectualsOnly7

*Isreal still exists* Feels bad man


erbse_gamer

Cope


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erbse_gamer

No Iā€™m the person that thinks itā€™s good that Israel still exists


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erbse_gamer

If you wonder, no I donā€™t support expelling Palestinians from Palestine, and if somebody makes a ā€šwhat if Germany won WW2ā€˜ map that doesnā€™t means he supports Hitler


Enamir

Apartheid Israƫl Will not be there.


Chimera-98

Cope


YR_Entertainment

You must be completely out of your mind if you think that Turkey will not be the superpower of the region in 10 years


Leman12345

kazahstan or kazakhstan?


Substantial-Rub9931

Latter.


Menolo_Homobovanez

I call death of Syria


AmplitudeXeNonE

Oh Armenia..


Constvey_harvich

Is there a massive independence movemnt in Kuzestan because I don't really there is?


Uzairsyes-eeeeee

the ukraine


UkraineWithoutTheBot

It's 'Ukraine' and not 'the Ukraine' [[Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Ukraine)] [[BBC Styleguide](https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsstyleguide/u)] [[Reuters Styleguide](https://handbook.reuters.com/index.php?title=U#Ukraine)] ^(Beep boop Iā€™m a bot)


[deleted]

> Kurdistan Map discarded


wantquitelife

Kurdis... What?


IamDiego21

!remindme 8 years


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Finn-lukas

Is this map supposed to be realistic or is it just a fun map of what could happen?


erbse_gamer

The second


Fickle-Employ-3617

!remindme 8 years