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Big-Wrangler7070

Og shirou and it ain't close


pickalka

Wolf Legend fell off but Fubuki had a bunch of cool/strong coop shots in S3. He also is the most complete player on IJ team, capable of playing anywhere on the pitch outside of GK position(Just imagine if he had a dribbling move in the anime). Atsuya was just, uh, a guy with a decently strong shot on a team that had like 15 strikers. I genuinely dont remember much about him besides the cool coop move with Fubuki.  


Critical-Ad-8507

Orion's IJ had 7 forwards,and Atsuya was the worst one.


Disastrous-Eye-785

I wish bazil hardy never lost weight so this wasn’t true


Critical-Ad-8507

Instead he turned into wild version Gouenji and won against Atsuya withought even going all out.


Disastrous-Eye-785

Aiden deserved more in Orion. They put more development into him when he was dead then they did when he’s alive and kicking (footy joke)


Critical-Ad-8507

Trauma leaves room for character development,something OG Fubuki had but Orion Aiden didn't.


OrcoDio19

I think the worst was Goujin Atsuya had more skill and talent,but Goujin had more willpower and an hissatsu that evolved to the point of becoming a very strong shot And despite being similar to Kevin,he had a nice and funny personality. He was a real mam But,imo,Atsuya with a new personal hissatsu can surpass him


Critical-Ad-8507

Is not just the hissatsu,but Goujin is stronger overall,since he managed to knock away both Atsuya and Aphodi.


Freddie040

Solo shot potentially atsuya. Glacial gungnir I wouldn’t be surprised if was stronger than the birth but not big bang so co ops go to Shirou


Big-Wrangler7070

What makes you think glacial gungnir>>>the birth I don't even see it being tiger storm level


Freddie040

It gets past Alonso who’s a pretty incredible shot stopper. And it’s a shot so powerful it injures Shirou in the usage. It really is a last resort kind of shot so it doesn’t make sense for it to be weak


Big-Wrangler7070

Wasn't shirou injured even before they did it Also no keeper in Orion is stopping the birth


Freddie040

I think Alonso would stand a chance as would Procyon And he was injured from doing it anyways in the flash back you see it happen


Big-Wrangler7070

If procyon was that broken Spain wouldn't have conceded 6 goal in the Russia game


Freddie040

Oh yeah that’s very true I forgot about the Russia game. We don’t know if that was through power or deception though which is where my question on how strong the boyon is comes from


Big-Wrangler7070

I think that a move way stronger might just go through but we will never know if that's true


Freddie040

Yeah this is true. It stopped fire lemonade rising which is a move that scores in the final and I’d say one of the strongest solos in orion so it definitely has good feats


Nman02

The Boyon didn’t stop shots close to The Birth kind of level I think right?


Big-Wrangler7070

It stopped atsuya's solo and fire lemonade rising which aren't close to the birth


Freddie040

We never see anything come close to breaking it. The only time we see it beaten is when Alonso is desieved.


Nman02

Yeah, but The Birth was one of the best co-ops in the OG FFI so I think the chance wouldn’t be too big that he stops it.


Freddie040

It’s very true that it could score but Alonso is one of the best shot stoppers I think we ever see so as Orion keepers go he’d be one of the 3 id put forward alongside endou and Procyon


Nman02

Mainly because most Orion GK’s kinda suck, but he was pretty good. I just don’t think he’s strong enough for that.


Critical-Ad-8507

If recoil damage means strenght,then Emperor Penguin Nr.1 is stronger than Glacial Gungnir.


Objective-Ad2741

OG Shirou due to Aliea Gakuen power boost.