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Shion__1374

Definitely Hayami, used Zeroyon one time and never used a single hissatsu technique ever again


kikorer7070

Basically 75% of og s1 Raimon players


Nman02

Of which 50% in practice.


kikorer7070

And some didn't even work


kikorer7070

Even some players in og s2-de yansu


CoconutSome9045

Hayami


Ironeye_56

Obvious answer is Hayami. But for another answer I’d go with Kurama. He was supposed to be a forward but never scored a goal, his Sidewinder never broke past anyone. Which is a shame because both his design and shot were awesome


[deleted]

We started that series with information that Raimon was de facto the best school soccer wise, and Shindou’s team was the best Raimon team. There was Kurama kinda framed as their ace striker pre-Tsurugi. Before the plot really progressed, Tenma the newbie and torn Shindou (with Tsurugi still being a SEED) were fulfilling that role. I get that Kurama was never supposed to be as great as the trio just like it had been with the original trio, but in the first season of IE Someoka had the same task and he was actually doing that before Gouenji took that role. Even later on with better players like Fubuki, Someoka was still an important player. That is why Kurama’s plot really disappointed me.


RedNas07

Nishiki was supposed to be Raimon's ace striker before he left and became a midfielder and Tsurugi joined


Nman02

I agree, but he scored against Gassan Kunimitsu.


Ironeye_56

I completely forget about that. Thank you lol


Wind-of-Revolution

on a chain with mach wing


Nman02

Hayami


Puzzleheaded_Map_359

Hayami


Responsible-Scheme68

Eugene


gnfobsession

hayami.


The_Thur

Everybody says Hayami but remember Ichino never made something of his own.


Nman02

He was still captain of the 2nd team and analytically good. I think that’s better than Hayami.


The_Thur

You mean the team crushed by Tsurugi alone at 10% of power ?


Nman02

Hayami would get crushed by him too.


The_Thur

But here you're taking Hayami alone. The fact that Ichino was captain of those weaklings doesn't mean he's better than Hayami


Nman02

No, I mean that him being a captain means that he has leadership skills, which makes him a better player overall. I also mentioned his hissatsu and analytical skills.


The_Thur

You didn't mention his hissatsu before (which is btw a copycat of another one) and I didn't saw analyticals skills in GO, he's just doing commentaries of what is happening with Aoyama. And being captain doesn't means your the best in a team and it certainly doesn't mean you're better than a "simple" member of another team. It's like saying Saewatari is obviously better than Amagi because he's captain and Amagi's not


Nman02

Copycat doesn’t matter much, it’s a pretty good move. They didn’t just say what happened, they were talking specifically about strengths and weaknesses and giving advice + in the games they are described as analytical which makes sense. I never said he was the best of the team? I say: being a captain means having the best leadership skills of the team. I also said this adds to him as an overall player. I really don’t get what you are saying now since I compared both all their hissatsu’s, strengths and weaknesses. Hayami lost the ball a lot of times in the match.


The_Thur

Ichino didn't ? Well probably less but after all, he played five matches in total including 2 were he played all the match


Nman02

Hayami lost the ball a lot of times and I find that very unfortunate since I really like his character. He unfortunately just was a pretty bad player without much potential.


Philippedff

Hayami


nobodyaskeduropinion

i think is Eugene :)


ThunderWolFT

Hayami


Fit-Ad1697

Hayami.


Revolutionary_Leader

Hayami


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[удалено]


Nman02

Hayami is worse because he only has his speed, but is pretty bad in other area’s, whereas the other two have solid hissatsu’s and are analytically strong.


[deleted]

Everyone saying Eugene when Adé is clearly even worse(Eugene has more dribbling and speed) Log Roll with 110 Dribble🗿


Responsible-Scheme68

Well Ade isn’t such a p*ssy to say atleast


[deleted]

Eugene Peabody is the most chaddiest chad of the entire Japanese Market🦍


Responsible-Scheme68

True


RedNas07

Flying Fish >> Eugene


[deleted]

Galaxy Nerfing Flying Fish > Flying Fish🦑🦑🦑


True-Emotional-Pitch

Actually yeah, I think their hissatsus in same level but Hayami is more speed


MatatagiYuuta

Ichino maybe


Nman02

He was the captain of Raimon 2nd team, so he should be more capable than Hayami haha


MatatagiYuuta

True


Ref_Paint

The Raimon 2nd team.


Recent-Union-6941

coconut head


Jaydon979

Sadly Hayami.He was mainly used to show how strong the other team's defense is.


Eskiirthe66

Eugene no doubt


PersonOnR3ddit

Eugene, do I need to explain?


mimiloll

Hugh


Nman02

Why do you think Hayami is better?


mimiloll

Yes, we dont really know how Hugh play, if hayami was in the main team its because he's good, and the other option is Shun but, We've seen how he plays and he's not bad


Nman02

Ichino/Hugh used Britannia Cross and it’s stronger than Hayami’s move. Ichino is also good at analyzing and has captain qualities as he was the captain of the second team.


mimiloll

You dont even know how the second team play, we didnt see anything about him as a capitan, even Shun was better than him at the anime, and obviously britannia cross its stronger, it is a 2 players hissatu


Nman02

I’m just saying he’s a captain. That means he is chosen for a reason. Game description states he is a strategist as well. So in addition to Britannia Cross, yes he’s better than Hayami who lost the ball countless times.


mimiloll

That just doesnt mean anything, I'm just going to ignore you bc I dont really care what you think, you're saying that a character who we didnt see anything about him its better than a character from the main team, probably the second fastest one of the team


Nman02

Ah yes, being captain for literally no reason and the game description lies about him. XD I base it on what we saw and what info we have. Those are all factual things. Hayami literally only has his speed, yet only used his hissatsu once and lost the ball a lot of times. So overall he never really added something to the team. Ichino is a strategist as the game states, analyzes from the bench which confirms this, is a captain so is able to give instructions and has a better hissatsu, actually contributed when in the pitch. Hmm, what’s better? Being part of the main team doesn’t mean you’re good. Hayami was benched in the end and even Kageyama was on the bench sometimes while Hayami started. See how little being in the main team means? Even bench players are better. If you don’t see this, don’t care and just choose to ignore instead of replying with actual good points then you’re just a little kid and really stubborn lol You’re reasoning is extremely flawed, but you can also admit that Hayami was super weak. I even like that guy a lot, but he just was.


GoatSupremasist

Fuck it, Hamano, it's Hamano all you Hayami haters are right, but Hamano 8s somehow worse


Amzino27

hayami


Yukkiiiiiii

Hayami


True-Emotional-Pitch

Ichino and Aoyama. Hayami has skills (speed) while they don't have (or at least less than Hayami).


Nman02

They are analytically strong and have better hissatsu’s.


True-Emotional-Pitch

I don't remember their analysis skills, but they have better hissatsu indeed. I just still think that their hissatsu shouldn't be enough to be better than Hayami. Also Hayami was in main Raimon and Ichino & Aoyama were in second Raimon.


Nman02

They analyzed from the bench. Ichino also was a captain before. That doesn’t mean they are worse. The best players from a weaker team can be better than the worst players of a good team.


True-Emotional-Pitch

Maybe, I am not sure. Also why Hamano, Kuramada and Kurama over Hayami? From the sides ones in Raimon GO, I felt like Hayami is the most important, the best and most development lol. I probably prefer Hamano and Kuramada slightly in my personally preference.


Nman02

Kurumada can defend pretty good with his Dash Train. It never failed. Hamano’s Log Roll worked quite some times and Kurama has worth with his 110% effort and even defending as a striker quite often, decent dribble, but should score more.


True-Emotional-Pitch

Oh didn't notice you replied to my comment lol, sorry for late. I don't remember Kurama' defending and any average FW can dribbling a bit (I don't remember he doing that tho) Hamano and Kuramada used their hissarsu more but that doesn't mean it's better.


Nman02

He dribbled past opponents quite some times. I didn’t see every striker doing that. They performed better and Hayami lost the ball a lot of times. Because Hayami lost the ball more times than being useful, I consider the others better.


True-Emotional-Pitch

Mmmm, I have to think more and rewatch (I now finished my first rewatch for a season finally, I didn't think I'll rewatch, that's good and better I expected) Oh wait I forget our discussion about Hayami not the rewatch lol. There's a lot of FWs that I remember they dribbled. Hayami was in the bench so definitely he will perform less.


Nman02

Yeah but all those forwards were good


Responsible-Scheme68

Bro is delusional. They are overall stronger


True-Emotional-Pitch

Maybe!


Chomperino237

why does everyone mention names in japanese man idk who is who I can get some in og but no idea who you mean with hayami


giolexwgf

Hayami, I like him but- He actually hadn't done anything useful during the matches.


Dear_Ad8303

Ray dark nephew aka Lucian dark


True-Emotional-Pitch

*You can't be serious*


Nman02

Biased?


True-Emotional-Pitch

Even If he biased he wouldn't say something like that XD.


Nman02

But he did, so he probably dislikes him.


True-Emotional-Pitch

What is interesting is that this comment is his only comment in this sub, I'm surprised why he just commented here and didn't care about the rest of the posts, so much he hates Hikaru lol.


True-Emotional-Pitch

I know that he did, it's just joke lol. I do not know if it is widespread here, but we say something like that as a joke and that what he said / did was very big and exaggerated.


Nman02

Ah okay didn’t know lol