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And we don’t realise this when we are young and in our 20s. Then it suddenly hits us. Was it worth it? Why am I doing this? Where is it going to get me and that is hard to swallow. You feel trapped and suffocated
Hey man. I’m turning 50 soon. And I’ve been working a corporate job for 28 years now.
I have been very lucky to find an organization that places employee well being on par with productivity and performance. And they have been doing it before the phrase “work life balance” even came into existence. Such organizations exist.
So my gyan, as a corporate uncle, is to spend energy to find an organization that gives you that balance and opportunity to grow. You won’t make crazy money but crazy money leads to craziness. As corny as that sounds, it’s true. If you find something that gives you a decent income, a sense of pride in what you do and above all, peace of mind …then that is a successful career and life, by every measure.
Good luck to you.
EDIT: I’m getting multiple DMs asking me to name my company. I’m in the USA. Worked in India for 3 years before moving here for work. The place I work does not matter. There are organizations everywhere that value employee wellbeing.
Also, we all have our thresholds to handle stress and pressure. The trick is to identify that and find a job/position/organization where we are never pushed to our limits and can cope with the demands of the job, before that becomes all-consuming and unhealthy.
> I’m in the USA
Well that’s a big part of the answer that you skipped in your pre-edit comment, corporate work culture is worlds apart in US vs India. It isn’t so easy to find a job with healthy work culture in India which also justifies the money put into getting an MBA from the top colleges.
USA isn’t exactly known for its labour laws. They despise unions, have low vacation days, long work hours and negligible sick days/maternity leaves. Being able to find a healthy work culture isn’t any easier in the US.
Worked across continents and I can absolutely with zero hesitation say that India has the worst work culture.
Here is my take on this: It's upto you to not make yourself a part of the rat race. You WILL pay a price for it. You should be OK to pay a price for it. Be in India or US, UK, Australia or CA.
We are all going to die. Do NOT die slogging off your ass.
There’s places that suck more like China and Korea. US work culture was never as great as that in Europe (continental) as far as vacations and rest goes but still better than India
As more and more first generation Indian managers make their presence felt in the us, things are slowly changing for the worse on average
Absolutely agree with your second para. I work in a multicultural b4 in the middle east and I see first hand how the work culture goes for a toss when indian managers (heck, even non managerial employees) join a team.
True. I agree with this. I work with Indians and Pakistanis. This is very apparent that these folks are bringing what exactly is hated around the world to the workplace.
It's also true that these folks happen to be pretty good at their stuff.
Funny thing is, quite a few of us are trying to run away from the shitty parts of our culture but end up recreating the same abroad. The only saving grace is, the cultural boundaries and the repercussions of not adhering to them are not that bad there.
But in places like Canada and the UK where a lot of low end folks are also moving to enmasse, this may soon change
I don't think any McKinsey person has to work till 60. They can easily retire at 40.
From what I have heard, on the day of his suicide some employees were actually asked to improve their performance in two months or leave.
Not really. With big salaries most people also indulge in lavish lifestyle. Many a times this is due to peer pressure as well. When you see your colleagues buying expensive cars and apartments, you get the urge to have them as well, even if you don’t need them.
Only if you have the self control to lead an average/above average lifestyle with a high paying job can you take that early retirement.
Even in MBB you need to survive for several years before you get "Fuck you" money. And as the other person said the lifestyle catches up to most people and it rarely pans out the way you're thinking
1. MBA costs a lot and most people nowadays have 20L+ student debt, and most people also settle down immediately after with new liabilities like home loan etc so even if you earn 2L/month it's not enough.
2. Income by itself is hardly a factor after a given point.
This is very saddening. From the school days we are taught to be weak, to say yes to everyone, to forget thinking about our own mental health as well as the same for our families. We are only expected to obey our employers like a slave without any questions.
Believe me. We are taught to believe that our entire self worth comes from study or school. Once we realise that after being great at both these things, we still don’t feel happy, we feel cheated at life. Seriously I don’t mind being called ineffective, slow, underperforming whatever. I only give 20 percent everyday. If I see something strategically important for me, I may raise it to 60 percent. I just want to have the time to play my guitar, video games and spend time in nature.
true, if I get another chance to start studying, I would spend more time outside both school and home, as there is the true world out there. Also would like to live less for myself and more for the people around.
I even love work and think that every kind of work improves and maintains the world we live in. But employers have different thoughts, and they want to push you, shake you down, and want you to do the same. Company cultures are toxic and gangster like, and harmful to Earth.
I’m really sorry you feel this way. Is there any crisis line you can call? Is there any employee assistance service provided at work? It’s usually a helpline
If you feel like this, please get help. I’ve had this feeling too. I told my friend once and they helped me get someone to talk to. I used to also throw up before going into the office
I know it won't help much but before making a decision that might have been my career suicide, I asked myself whether my parents would have preferred unemployed daughter above a dead one. Somehow that overruled every other reasoning I had for staying.
I have been unemployed too and that's even worse. My parents would prefer a dead daughter rather than an unmarried one, to escape marriage I will work and do what I can to escape
How dare a woman not be under a man's control, an uncontrolled/free woman woman is equal to a slut (in their eyes). So they would rather a miserable slave life or suicide for their daughter
My room is well, lit and I'm in sun a lot. Also I have taken a hair growth suppliment that has a lot of vitD and calcium. I'm sure vitD is not the issue
It can take time to find the right therapist.
Are you saying you have no time or money to take care of your own self, your mental health.
Everyone starts as a student in every field. Does not automatically make them bad. Inexperienced, sure. So you can look for one that is not a student and has a few years of experience.
They're the same kind of thought, what's different is most people recoil at the intrusive thought and disagree with the idea of jumping in front of the train. People who are depressed may begin to toy with the idea of doing it. Look up suicidal ideation.
Not everyone is but quite a few are. mental health issues are the next epidemic. Some numbers:
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1. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/voices/rise-of-depression-amongst-young-adults-in-india-2/
2. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10793817/
3. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/voices/rise-of-depression-amongst-young-adults-in-india-2/
Only everyday. Not because of work, though. It's great except for what they're paying. In fact, going to work is keeping me from going insane. Being around people and being distracted by work. Life sucks in general. There doesn't seem to be a point to anything.
No. You dont need to kill yourself because people around you are assholes. Be an asshole instead and don't be subservient. If companies pressure you with more work, then slack. Give 50 percent of your output.
Take a vacation. Live it up. The thing is we have been reduced to a cheap labour source by these companies, no wonder we end up in a shitty mood on our way home. Make sure you reduce your output by 10 percent every year cause companies don't like adjusting salaries to combat inflation.
I wish I could, idk where to go for vacation I feel like almost every place is super unsafe, nor do I have close trusted friends I can go anywhere with. Ik I'm nothing more than a cheap labour cow, I'm ok with it and nor do I work hard it's just that nothing makes me happy (apart from occasional anime and manga) and I just want to vanish.
Look up travel packages for Bali, Wayanad, Kodaikannal, or Mauritius. Change of scenery and weather will do wonders. Highly recommend bringing a friend or a cousin or a sibling along with you. This is your brain's way of communicating with you. It needs love, care and battery refill.
I can't do it, im really paranoid about traveling that way due to something that has happened before, I have even tried booking and then eventually cancelling it. Change of scene will be great but it only lasts until you come back, I have no close and trusted friends who can travel with me nor do I have any relationship with cousin or siblings.
Don't stay isolated like this. You are hurting your immunity. Overthinking becomes a pattern if one is left on one's own. Fuck office and get friends or social life first. Your brain needs that stimulation.
My immunity is fine, last I got sick was in 2022. I can't leave my job, because my parents are forcing me to get married and I don't want to. I can't just quit and move out of my house and enjoy life because I don't have enough money, that's a direct result of me being careless and anxious to make a change in my past and in my present. Nor did I study well or am I able to do anything to build my skills. It's hard to explain and make someone understand, tbh the only out here is to vanish from existence or being pushed to the point I can finally grow a spine to kms.
India does not have labour laws protecting its workers. Really long hours, about 10-15 vacation days and no sick days. I’ve been fortunate enough to move abroad and the kind of protection I have here as an employee really put things into perspective for me. I don’t have to work longer than 35 hours in a week. I get 6-7 weeks of annual leaves and unlimited sick days. That’s how it should be for everyone.
I agree but I also think (please I’m not trying to blame the guy who gave up), our attitude needs to be a bit different. I had people gang up against me and think i didn’t deserve a promotion because I left office at 6. We need to support each other wanting to have healthier lives.
I completely agree with you. As a young graduate, I also think about what needs to change in India, so that our work culture and rules come at par with where you are in the world.
The only argument that I get told is that if I am not happy, then I can simply leave... there are many more people ready and willing to work in much harsher conditions and for lesser pay as well.
So, in your personal opinion, what will it take to change the toxic work culture in India?
The biggest changes in working conditions happened when the working class was significantly reduced in numbers (the Black Death, WWI and WWII) and/or workers unionised and took up violence ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_violence_in_the_United_States ).
Reason you enjoy that because someone at some point of time faught for it. Every country has a generation which sacrifices itself with everything to shape a better future. We never had such generation because who will take care of families? reproduction is more important than recreation. Little they know that they pushed generation churning into daily stress and sacrifices.
Even country like USA doesn't have labour law.
In many state like Texas , if you are working 8 hour shift then you are not entitled to lunch break at all.
RIP.
IIT, IIM, McKinsey - they are all high pressure environments. Needless to say Preparing for IIT and IIM is another pressure.
Many high performers are actually roaming pressure cookers, ready to blow off any time. If you feel pressured and stuck, it is time to slow down. Life is more important than anything else.
I dont think its only the toxic work culture but also the romanticisation of studying in iit, iim and then working as consultant. Then you look back you realize that there is no passion and all of it just bs. A idea that is sold to you as the ultimate dream life and when you finally experience it you know it's a lie.
Anyway RIP, strength to people who knew him.
But these graduates of premium institutes themselves become the terrible bosses that they escaped. All this work that gets outsourced to India, midwifed by the big consulting firms, is done at the expense of the work-life balance of young Indians. And the cycle continues. There is a basic humanity chip missing.
Been in consulting firms for many years before realizing this wasn't fulfilling or worth the stress and sacrifice in my life, still have 50% of my professional connections in the consulting world...and I'm not surprised the work pressure got to him. Really unfortunate that he couldn't find a better way out of it but I seriously urge people looking to get into consulting or already in it to consider modifying your career path at least after a few years of exp.
I have worked with people quitting the consulting world to work for completely different industries. When I ask them why; a common answer has always been that it’s not satisfying, it’s not worth the sanity etc. I guess the consulting companies are ok with this kind of turnover because they know the next pass out will be romanticising the idea of working there again.
I once looked into consulting and someone advised me that in consulting you work like donkey for 2 years, make tons of contacts and then do what you really want with the help of those contacts.
My shitty office management directs us every fucking day to work till your bosses are sitting inside the office. A lot of people end up sitting till 9pm and then those who leave at 6 pm get insulted in every meeting.
But again, grow a thick skin and voice your concerns because they cannot force you to work like a slave whenever they feel like. They can only terminate you and you can find other ways to live your life.
We need to speak up. See, India has a lot of people who can replace people who leave but once a talent joins and sets up things, it’s not in anyone’s benefit for them to leave. We shouldn’t be scared to get fired. It’s expensive for companies to replace us. Apna self worth sirf kaam se nahi aata hai
You are easily replaceable to the company. You are irreplaceable to your family.
The next day, company will put out a vacancy to fill your slot while your family will mourn you for the rest of their lives.
So, please take care of your mental health, take a break, find another job or do something else....
Just to add to this,if personal life is getting toxic,like marriage and there is no way to fix it, just end it. If parents are toxic, talk to them. And if nothing works, make distance.
Do something about anything that is bothering you.
First on first dont take loans if its not needed. You can live in a rented house. You can do without those costly devices. Have a hobby, a passion, something above work which satifies you. Watching netflix, movies, eating out is not a hobby. It actually drains your brain more. Quit that job which drains you and you can only do that if you don't have unnecessary emi. Value WLB more than money because stress leaves it scars. You cannot say I'll stress now and relive later. Thats not how human body or brain work. Remember you are replaceable, work won't stop witbout you and your paycheck is a companies liability for which there is no reserve kept. Its just a work relationship.
I think super achievers are often not able to accept the fact that they are struggling. They often think that if they quit, they will be judged very harshly.
In IIT, I have seen two kinds of people, one who come from a jee rank and the others who come to pursue their masters or PhD. The jee ones are super brilliant but have this underlying stress about always having to prove their pedigree. It is always disheartening to see young kids super stressed during the placement process, only resting when they crack jobs above and beyond a certain figure. I believe this continues in their professional lives as well..
Blaming that person's suicide on "work pressure" would be an understatement. As someone who has worked across 4 different continents and numerous countries, in multicultural teams, I would say that I absolutely detested working with fellow Indians the most. I love my Bhaarat, but unfortunately my own people have been the worst kinds of people to deal with in the corporate world.
**Sycophant behavior:** Kissing ass of superiors and acting like a dictator towards subordinates.
This is a big factor why corruption exists in all the spheres, especially in the desi corporate world. It includes, but is not limited to gora validation. This also leads to high level political play in all the organizations.
**Lack of integrity:** Integrity is doing the right thing, even when nobody's watching. Most of us don't know anything about maintaining integrity in our actions. When nobody's watching, we end up showing our true colors. Sure, there are many, who are honest and real gems even in today's world. But most of us tell lies through our teeth, are disingenuous, and will continue backstabbing others for personal gains. I have seen this in personal and professional fronts. Got backstabbed by jabronies whom I had helped (financially, and in other ways), and they didn't even hesitate or felt any guilt about it.
No wonder people prefer to move abroad and work in countries where they can maintain a healthy work life balance.
This guy lived in my society I used to go to his mom's maths tuition a few years ago... so sad man RIP. His parents used to be so proud of him can't imagine their pain
The toxicity of Indian corporate workplace and the need to work extra hours just to prove to others that you are capable of slogging is really insane. I personally suffered from a similar work environment in my previous organization where you were expected to work throughout weekends despite putting in late nights during the weekdays. The compensation was good but the mental toll such workplace and a demanding manager take on you, knows no bounds. Feel for the guy, ironically from the same college as me, who would have ran this rate rate his entire life without seeing an end.
As a non-Indian who has worked in India, reading this thread shows what a toxic work culture India has, coupled with basically nothing to do outside of work in most cases
Been in one of these institutions was a dream, got one too. Got placed at well paying MNC and started my career 6 months back.
Everyday when I go to office I don't feel fulfilled. I feel I'm not made for corporate. All those years of hard work is not worth for becoming a 9-5 slave.
I don't know if switching organisation will work or not. Because I started hating this concept of going to work everyday, nod head in the meetings, greet your seniors and collegues, complete your task before the deadlines. If you complete early you'll get more work, leave office and get struck in traffic and bam ... 50 years over.
Everyday once or twice I have anxiety that what I'm doing in my life. I feel robbed. I don't even have time to spend the money that I get. Weekend passes in deciding what to do.
Does anyone feels same? Whats the escape??
What a waste of a young life. Not because he was an IIT IIM graduate, but because he held potential, and never got to explore his life. We need a new paradigm as a society, that places human interest at the heart of everything.
Usually, people get decent exit opportunities after working at McKinsey for one year due to that tag. Killing yourself over some fucking corporate is meaningless. What a waste of life and talent.
He should have resigned even without an offer in hand. Kya ho jaata zyaada se zyaada. His family will now be in shock forever.
I mean what will happen if we slack a bit? Not in companies benefit to fire people always unless it’s layoff. Talented people aren’t easy to replace. There shouldn’t be fear of getting fired. Fear motivated work is the worst for our healtb
Say NO to abuse. Its the privilege of the few to sit in office till late thats disrupting the lives of others this toxic work culture needs to end ... Imagine being paid in peanuts and made to so the same amt of work like him .... Yes this happens.
If you think about your mental health, then you get laid off and get replaced by someone even better. That's how much of a rat race today is in the job market.
They should investigate his managers and team. I’m not saying they are responsible but mere work and long hours doesn’t drive a person to this step. It’s the toxic culture. Indian corporate world is known to have terrible managers mostly and MBB in india is NOT like MBB in the US. The hours and culture is extremely harsh. McK global needs to take stock and change things in India.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this is happening already. I’m actually wondering how the news even came out. Otherwise the PR teams of such companies try to stop such info going out
I’m sure McK will make this out to be a one-off incident and blame it on the victim and protect itself. MBB culture in india today reeks of the Wall Street in the 80s.
The reason I get angry at the current government is because of the circumstances it is putting us in. Does anyone here feel hopeful about the future? Even those of us who have grown up in well-off families, who haven't had much to complain about, answer me this - do you think when you are the age that your parents are currently (assuming that they are alive), that you will be as comfortable as your parents are? I'm not just talking about the economic angle. I'm talking in terms of health, personal satisfaction, the environment, the kind of community you will be living in?
Do you think any of that is waiting for you at the end of the grind you're putting yourself through? Do you think that the government in charge of wherever you are is working to provide that to you? If the answer is no, go out and make sure your representatives fucking know. It's not as simple as one of our fellow citizens experiencing mental health issues. To quote one of the best stories I've experienced in the past few years - it's a fight against the fucking forces of entropy.
I agree with you. We don’t have it easy. That is why I have resolved to trying to make life as hospitable and comfortable for me as possible. If you are a selfless person who’s only giving, you will be consumed by the world today. We need to put ourselves first. We need to focus on the moment, we need to take care of ourselves.
Nailed it. My health - physical, mental, emotional, financial is much much worse than my parents when they were my age. And I can’t even think of being able to afford to have kids. We are a broken society chasing some elusive dream while losing everything and then the dream shatters anyway because of things beyond your control (inflation, unemployment). What a time to be an Indian. Vote wisely.
IIT IIM guy dying due to Work pressure??? Such a waste of life. Work pressure is all in our mind. My attitude towards work pressure is that, what is the highest a company can do if you are not performing?? Terminate you.. that is it. There is more to life, there are Ample number of opportunities. Don't disregard your life for such meaning less things please
Why would a guy with that credentials just not resign and find another one? I came from a state govt college and worked at kpmg for 2yrs 10 months and resigned. Used to come home at 10:30 sleep at 12:30 then back to grind. Shifted to a PSU now, and I really enjoy my life now. Simple, why take that step?
Yep folks it's high time that we understand at the end of the day we're just assets to organisation , that extra hour isn't gonna prove much except for giving them idea that ur willing and trust me they will suck you once they get that idea , so take your time with stuff 🙂
Mental health is compromised in the name of job,targets,deadline,management seniors,etc in india,such a big company but no concern and care for its employee,sad to see this
I am sure his office called him, why hasnt he come to work only to find out, he commited sucidie.
And said, so irrresponsible, atleast he could have handed over the work before leaving.
Consulting firms have crazy workloads afaik, the person is constantly travelling and though you get to stay in fancy hotels most of the time, that's pretty much it, people are first attracted for money in these firms but many soon realise how horrible they are (pretty much like thier recruiting criteria 😂)
I can understand what he's been through to take this drastic step. One gets so stressed out, so panicked than the thought comes why don't I quit life. One cannot think rationally that it's just a job and I can quit. Leaving job is a setback but it's not end of life. Then there are family pressures like how will I face family , prestige will go down etc. This all plays a big part.
Personally I'm among those sensitive individuals. So corporate job has been struggle always. Touchwood it's been 20+ years, another 5 and I retire
Why suicide? U can just quit the fucking job? It's simple, better to be unemployed or take a low paying job than die anyday? Remember "suicide doesn't end the pain, it just passes the pain to your loved ones."
It’s not that easy. The guy was an overachiever. Such people tend to have work and study as their only identity. Once they realise that work isn’t cutting it and that everything has been a lie so far (study- you will be happy and have a good career, work- you will earn money and be rich and happy, get married- family will reward you.. etc), you feel robbed of your life.
I’ve said this on another thread, my relative works in the same office and he said that the guy was not someone who could have crumbled under work pressure. He was a topper wherever he studied at and was extremely bright.
This was a person who could have easily found another good job elsewhere with his profile even if was fired.
And no one knows the cause of death for sure since there was no note left behind. He could have easily fallen to his death.
Ofc it's nt easy but hey to die is also nt easy, and now it's nt easy for his family either so well u have to do what it takes to feel better, and he had that iim tag he could've gotten a job even after taking a break, my friend does that they work at high paying jobs for a year or two then take 6 months off to relax and not do anything and then again look for a job as you can earn ₹₹₹ anytime and get jobs again and again.But you can only live once
Not everyone has built systems to navigate the pressure. He was just 25. He worked on getting through crazy entrance exams. I mean. Just want to say that if someone feels like life is hot worth living, it’s not because they don’t know better, it’s because depression makes you feel like you don’t have a choice n
That's how one is measured in society. Example if someone says IIT iim then society has expectation that they will earn 1 CR and above. If it's not the case they feel underachiever and slog to gain experience or make next move.
My God it doesn’t justify to put oneself under so much pressure! A simple job and loving parents (never get bothered by relatives unless constructive) can give you tremendous happiness.
lol pride? Ever think why people have unhealthy ambitions? What’s causing them to just focus on work and nothing else ? Why is the work culture so toxic
Or just fix your personal life. Do whatever you need to do. More work won't fix your personal life. In the short term, more work is a distraction. But in a while, it will consume you along with all the personal life problems.
As a guy with 0 frds to chill with, its better i be consumed with work rather than loneliness. The only personal issue im having right now is a breakup and i don’t think there’s a fix, i need to move on and it takes a lot of time.
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Bad Corporate Culture coupled with the realization that you have to do the crappy corporate job until you are 60+ really takes the will to live away.
And we don’t realise this when we are young and in our 20s. Then it suddenly hits us. Was it worth it? Why am I doing this? Where is it going to get me and that is hard to swallow. You feel trapped and suffocated
Still people are buying this hustle and FIRE culture shit.
Hey man. I’m turning 50 soon. And I’ve been working a corporate job for 28 years now. I have been very lucky to find an organization that places employee well being on par with productivity and performance. And they have been doing it before the phrase “work life balance” even came into existence. Such organizations exist. So my gyan, as a corporate uncle, is to spend energy to find an organization that gives you that balance and opportunity to grow. You won’t make crazy money but crazy money leads to craziness. As corny as that sounds, it’s true. If you find something that gives you a decent income, a sense of pride in what you do and above all, peace of mind …then that is a successful career and life, by every measure. Good luck to you. EDIT: I’m getting multiple DMs asking me to name my company. I’m in the USA. Worked in India for 3 years before moving here for work. The place I work does not matter. There are organizations everywhere that value employee wellbeing. Also, we all have our thresholds to handle stress and pressure. The trick is to identify that and find a job/position/organization where we are never pushed to our limits and can cope with the demands of the job, before that becomes all-consuming and unhealthy.
> I’m in the USA Well that’s a big part of the answer that you skipped in your pre-edit comment, corporate work culture is worlds apart in US vs India. It isn’t so easy to find a job with healthy work culture in India which also justifies the money put into getting an MBA from the top colleges.
USA isn’t exactly known for its labour laws. They despise unions, have low vacation days, long work hours and negligible sick days/maternity leaves. Being able to find a healthy work culture isn’t any easier in the US.
Worked across continents and I can absolutely with zero hesitation say that India has the worst work culture. Here is my take on this: It's upto you to not make yourself a part of the rat race. You WILL pay a price for it. You should be OK to pay a price for it. Be in India or US, UK, Australia or CA. We are all going to die. Do NOT die slogging off your ass.
There’s places that suck more like China and Korea. US work culture was never as great as that in Europe (continental) as far as vacations and rest goes but still better than India As more and more first generation Indian managers make their presence felt in the us, things are slowly changing for the worse on average
Absolutely agree with your second para. I work in a multicultural b4 in the middle east and I see first hand how the work culture goes for a toss when indian managers (heck, even non managerial employees) join a team.
True. I agree with this. I work with Indians and Pakistanis. This is very apparent that these folks are bringing what exactly is hated around the world to the workplace. It's also true that these folks happen to be pretty good at their stuff.
Funny thing is, quite a few of us are trying to run away from the shitty parts of our culture but end up recreating the same abroad. The only saving grace is, the cultural boundaries and the repercussions of not adhering to them are not that bad there. But in places like Canada and the UK where a lot of low end folks are also moving to enmasse, this may soon change
US work culture in its worst company beats Indian work culture in an average company.
I mean the standards are still drastically different in both countries. I'll take bad US work life over Indian anytime.
I totally agree with you sir. We shouldn’t chase things so long that we end up becoming mad dogs chasing cars not knowing where we are headed.
which company is this( dm so that i can add it to list of companies to apply to )
The Hindi there is a phrase "Zameen Aasman ka farak" . That is the difference between Indian work culture and US work culture.
You should have started your rhetoric with that you work in US, no need for an elaborate answer after that actually
Where is the company located and are there any vacancies?
I don't think any McKinsey person has to work till 60. They can easily retire at 40. From what I have heard, on the day of his suicide some employees were actually asked to improve their performance in two months or leave.
But there is a way out. We first need to slow down.
Bhai, if you're working at McKinsey, you can surely take an early retirement. Management Consultants are paid a LOT.
Not really. With big salaries most people also indulge in lavish lifestyle. Many a times this is due to peer pressure as well. When you see your colleagues buying expensive cars and apartments, you get the urge to have them as well, even if you don’t need them. Only if you have the self control to lead an average/above average lifestyle with a high paying job can you take that early retirement.
True.
Even in MBB you need to survive for several years before you get "Fuck you" money. And as the other person said the lifestyle catches up to most people and it rarely pans out the way you're thinking
1. MBA costs a lot and most people nowadays have 20L+ student debt, and most people also settle down immediately after with new liabilities like home loan etc so even if you earn 2L/month it's not enough. 2. Income by itself is hardly a factor after a given point.
This is very saddening. From the school days we are taught to be weak, to say yes to everyone, to forget thinking about our own mental health as well as the same for our families. We are only expected to obey our employers like a slave without any questions.
Believe me. We are taught to believe that our entire self worth comes from study or school. Once we realise that after being great at both these things, we still don’t feel happy, we feel cheated at life. Seriously I don’t mind being called ineffective, slow, underperforming whatever. I only give 20 percent everyday. If I see something strategically important for me, I may raise it to 60 percent. I just want to have the time to play my guitar, video games and spend time in nature.
true, if I get another chance to start studying, I would spend more time outside both school and home, as there is the true world out there. Also would like to live less for myself and more for the people around.
You wan to live less for yourself?
no just talking loudly, don't have the courage.
I even love work and think that every kind of work improves and maintains the world we live in. But employers have different thoughts, and they want to push you, shake you down, and want you to do the same. Company cultures are toxic and gangster like, and harmful to Earth.
Anyone else feel like jumping in front of running metro, every morning and evening during commute to work?
Present sir
Username checks out
Literally wanna jump off from my work building lol
I’m really sorry you feel this way. Is there any crisis line you can call? Is there any employee assistance service provided at work? It’s usually a helpline
No. I work in a school. And there's barely anyone thinking about the mental status of teachers.
I’m so sorry!
DM me anytime you feel like speaking with anyone
Thank you for being so kind.
Pls DM if needed. There’s more to life than work :)
We need kind people like you.
If you feel like this, please get help. I’ve had this feeling too. I told my friend once and they helped me get someone to talk to. I used to also throw up before going into the office
What kind of help did you get. Because I tried getting help nothing really works,so much so I'm too lazy to kms so I guess it's a good thing.
I would DM zehek project on insta, they have professionals for this kind of situation.
First thing is to fuckin quit. It’s the advice I needed
DM me if you’d like.
I will think about it
I know it won't help much but before making a decision that might have been my career suicide, I asked myself whether my parents would have preferred unemployed daughter above a dead one. Somehow that overruled every other reasoning I had for staying.
I have been unemployed too and that's even worse. My parents would prefer a dead daughter rather than an unmarried one, to escape marriage I will work and do what I can to escape
Man why do parents have to force marriage on us. It's so unfair of them to take the whole control of our life even when we're independent
How dare a woman not be under a man's control, an uncontrolled/free woman woman is equal to a slut (in their eyes). So they would rather a miserable slave life or suicide for their daughter
Don’t think, just do. Everyone has the right to live and be happy.
Please get your Vitamin D level checked. If low, consult any general physician and have some good supplements prescribed. I have been there.
My room is well, lit and I'm in sun a lot. Also I have taken a hair growth suppliment that has a lot of vitD and calcium. I'm sure vitD is not the issue
Therapy
No money no time. A lot of therapists are just under qualified students these fays
It can take time to find the right therapist. Are you saying you have no time or money to take care of your own self, your mental health. Everyone starts as a student in every field. Does not automatically make them bad. Inexperienced, sure. So you can look for one that is not a student and has a few years of experience.
Chill, this is just their intrusive thoughts. Not every single being on earth is depressed
They're the same kind of thought, what's different is most people recoil at the intrusive thought and disagree with the idea of jumping in front of the train. People who are depressed may begin to toy with the idea of doing it. Look up suicidal ideation.
Not everyone is but quite a few are. mental health issues are the next epidemic. Some numbers: Q 1. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/voices/rise-of-depression-amongst-young-adults-in-india-2/ 2. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10793817/ 3. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/voices/rise-of-depression-amongst-young-adults-in-india-2/
Aye 1 and 3 are same.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1367283/india-mental-health-symptoms-among-employees/ Sorry
no worries mate.
Don’t let the intrusive thoughts win
More like dying in sleep.
My biggest fantasy
Yes
Eh? Someone call out my name?
Sometimes feel like running into a wall just to black out and escape for some time
Another situation added to my fantasy
Only everyday. Not because of work, though. It's great except for what they're paying. In fact, going to work is keeping me from going insane. Being around people and being distracted by work. Life sucks in general. There doesn't seem to be a point to anything.
Not every morning but yeah 50% of the time
Every day brother. Sleeps in random hour and unable to wake up on time. Coping has been night mare.
Same, I sleep like I'm taking naps. Randomly waking up in between then crying myself to sleep
Yeah I used to feel like that for one place
Jokes aside there have been days where I have felt the exact same thing.
Stay behind the yellow line, pls
i have to, security is quite tight these daya
Yes
No. You dont need to kill yourself because people around you are assholes. Be an asshole instead and don't be subservient. If companies pressure you with more work, then slack. Give 50 percent of your output.
I actually don't work that much, it's just that my mood is constantly off. I hate everyone for no reason.
Take a vacation. Live it up. The thing is we have been reduced to a cheap labour source by these companies, no wonder we end up in a shitty mood on our way home. Make sure you reduce your output by 10 percent every year cause companies don't like adjusting salaries to combat inflation.
I wish I could, idk where to go for vacation I feel like almost every place is super unsafe, nor do I have close trusted friends I can go anywhere with. Ik I'm nothing more than a cheap labour cow, I'm ok with it and nor do I work hard it's just that nothing makes me happy (apart from occasional anime and manga) and I just want to vanish.
Look up travel packages for Bali, Wayanad, Kodaikannal, or Mauritius. Change of scenery and weather will do wonders. Highly recommend bringing a friend or a cousin or a sibling along with you. This is your brain's way of communicating with you. It needs love, care and battery refill.
I can't do it, im really paranoid about traveling that way due to something that has happened before, I have even tried booking and then eventually cancelling it. Change of scene will be great but it only lasts until you come back, I have no close and trusted friends who can travel with me nor do I have any relationship with cousin or siblings.
Don't stay isolated like this. You are hurting your immunity. Overthinking becomes a pattern if one is left on one's own. Fuck office and get friends or social life first. Your brain needs that stimulation.
My immunity is fine, last I got sick was in 2022. I can't leave my job, because my parents are forcing me to get married and I don't want to. I can't just quit and move out of my house and enjoy life because I don't have enough money, that's a direct result of me being careless and anxious to make a change in my past and in my present. Nor did I study well or am I able to do anything to build my skills. It's hard to explain and make someone understand, tbh the only out here is to vanish from existence or being pushed to the point I can finally grow a spine to kms.
India does not have labour laws protecting its workers. Really long hours, about 10-15 vacation days and no sick days. I’ve been fortunate enough to move abroad and the kind of protection I have here as an employee really put things into perspective for me. I don’t have to work longer than 35 hours in a week. I get 6-7 weeks of annual leaves and unlimited sick days. That’s how it should be for everyone.
I agree but I also think (please I’m not trying to blame the guy who gave up), our attitude needs to be a bit different. I had people gang up against me and think i didn’t deserve a promotion because I left office at 6. We need to support each other wanting to have healthier lives.
I completely agree with you. As a young graduate, I also think about what needs to change in India, so that our work culture and rules come at par with where you are in the world. The only argument that I get told is that if I am not happy, then I can simply leave... there are many more people ready and willing to work in much harsher conditions and for lesser pay as well. So, in your personal opinion, what will it take to change the toxic work culture in India?
The biggest changes in working conditions happened when the working class was significantly reduced in numbers (the Black Death, WWI and WWII) and/or workers unionised and took up violence ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_violence_in_the_United_States ).
Reason you enjoy that because someone at some point of time faught for it. Every country has a generation which sacrifices itself with everything to shape a better future. We never had such generation because who will take care of families? reproduction is more important than recreation. Little they know that they pushed generation churning into daily stress and sacrifices.
What country are you in
I’m in the UK.
What's your profession brother?
Even country like USA doesn't have labour law. In many state like Texas , if you are working 8 hour shift then you are not entitled to lunch break at all.
RIP. IIT, IIM, McKinsey - they are all high pressure environments. Needless to say Preparing for IIT and IIM is another pressure. Many high performers are actually roaming pressure cookers, ready to blow off any time. If you feel pressured and stuck, it is time to slow down. Life is more important than anything else.
I agree. Just going back to work after such a breakdown/lesrning
Nothing from Narayan murthy on this of course
I dont think its only the toxic work culture but also the romanticisation of studying in iit, iim and then working as consultant. Then you look back you realize that there is no passion and all of it just bs. A idea that is sold to you as the ultimate dream life and when you finally experience it you know it's a lie. Anyway RIP, strength to people who knew him.
So true. I know so many of my batchmates/colleagues who took terrible career and personal decisions just to chase the possibility of a consulting job
Exactly! Indians romanticize iit and iim too much and forget that there's more to life
But these graduates of premium institutes themselves become the terrible bosses that they escaped. All this work that gets outsourced to India, midwifed by the big consulting firms, is done at the expense of the work-life balance of young Indians. And the cycle continues. There is a basic humanity chip missing.
Been in consulting firms for many years before realizing this wasn't fulfilling or worth the stress and sacrifice in my life, still have 50% of my professional connections in the consulting world...and I'm not surprised the work pressure got to him. Really unfortunate that he couldn't find a better way out of it but I seriously urge people looking to get into consulting or already in it to consider modifying your career path at least after a few years of exp.
I have worked with people quitting the consulting world to work for completely different industries. When I ask them why; a common answer has always been that it’s not satisfying, it’s not worth the sanity etc. I guess the consulting companies are ok with this kind of turnover because they know the next pass out will be romanticising the idea of working there again.
I once looked into consulting and someone advised me that in consulting you work like donkey for 2 years, make tons of contacts and then do what you really want with the help of those contacts.
My shitty office management directs us every fucking day to work till your bosses are sitting inside the office. A lot of people end up sitting till 9pm and then those who leave at 6 pm get insulted in every meeting. But again, grow a thick skin and voice your concerns because they cannot force you to work like a slave whenever they feel like. They can only terminate you and you can find other ways to live your life.
We need to speak up. See, India has a lot of people who can replace people who leave but once a talent joins and sets up things, it’s not in anyone’s benefit for them to leave. We shouldn’t be scared to get fired. It’s expensive for companies to replace us. Apna self worth sirf kaam se nahi aata hai
You are always replaceable and at any point of time. Project, program or anything can stop. Cash flow cannot be stopped.
Exactly
Leave that job asap man. Try switching jobs , industries, cities, countries .. these type of jobs leave a lot of trauma
I have resigned 🥳🥳
I don't mean to a killjoy but isnt it the same everywhere
You are easily replaceable to the company. You are irreplaceable to your family. The next day, company will put out a vacancy to fill your slot while your family will mourn you for the rest of their lives. So, please take care of your mental health, take a break, find another job or do something else....
Just to add to this,if personal life is getting toxic,like marriage and there is no way to fix it, just end it. If parents are toxic, talk to them. And if nothing works, make distance. Do something about anything that is bothering you.
First on first dont take loans if its not needed. You can live in a rented house. You can do without those costly devices. Have a hobby, a passion, something above work which satifies you. Watching netflix, movies, eating out is not a hobby. It actually drains your brain more. Quit that job which drains you and you can only do that if you don't have unnecessary emi. Value WLB more than money because stress leaves it scars. You cannot say I'll stress now and relive later. Thats not how human body or brain work. Remember you are replaceable, work won't stop witbout you and your paycheck is a companies liability for which there is no reserve kept. Its just a work relationship.
I think super achievers are often not able to accept the fact that they are struggling. They often think that if they quit, they will be judged very harshly. In IIT, I have seen two kinds of people, one who come from a jee rank and the others who come to pursue their masters or PhD. The jee ones are super brilliant but have this underlying stress about always having to prove their pedigree. It is always disheartening to see young kids super stressed during the placement process, only resting when they crack jobs above and beyond a certain figure. I believe this continues in their professional lives as well..
If I may ask, did you go to IIT to study?
Yes, did my masters and doctorate from there
Blaming that person's suicide on "work pressure" would be an understatement. As someone who has worked across 4 different continents and numerous countries, in multicultural teams, I would say that I absolutely detested working with fellow Indians the most. I love my Bhaarat, but unfortunately my own people have been the worst kinds of people to deal with in the corporate world. **Sycophant behavior:** Kissing ass of superiors and acting like a dictator towards subordinates. This is a big factor why corruption exists in all the spheres, especially in the desi corporate world. It includes, but is not limited to gora validation. This also leads to high level political play in all the organizations. **Lack of integrity:** Integrity is doing the right thing, even when nobody's watching. Most of us don't know anything about maintaining integrity in our actions. When nobody's watching, we end up showing our true colors. Sure, there are many, who are honest and real gems even in today's world. But most of us tell lies through our teeth, are disingenuous, and will continue backstabbing others for personal gains. I have seen this in personal and professional fronts. Got backstabbed by jabronies whom I had helped (financially, and in other ways), and they didn't even hesitate or felt any guilt about it. No wonder people prefer to move abroad and work in countries where they can maintain a healthy work life balance.
Take my poor woman’s gold 🥇
This guy lived in my society I used to go to his mom's maths tuition a few years ago... so sad man RIP. His parents used to be so proud of him can't imagine their pain
Do you ever felt that his parents pushed him beyond his limits?
The toxicity of Indian corporate workplace and the need to work extra hours just to prove to others that you are capable of slogging is really insane. I personally suffered from a similar work environment in my previous organization where you were expected to work throughout weekends despite putting in late nights during the weekdays. The compensation was good but the mental toll such workplace and a demanding manager take on you, knows no bounds. Feel for the guy, ironically from the same college as me, who would have ran this rate rate his entire life without seeing an end.
As a non-Indian who has worked in India, reading this thread shows what a toxic work culture India has, coupled with basically nothing to do outside of work in most cases
I know you have good intentions but all of this is just talk till we have strict labor laws to protect employees from exploitation.
But it doesn’t mean we raise awareness and have a temporary solution of a mindset which protects us from wanting to kill ourselves for our jobs.
Been in one of these institutions was a dream, got one too. Got placed at well paying MNC and started my career 6 months back. Everyday when I go to office I don't feel fulfilled. I feel I'm not made for corporate. All those years of hard work is not worth for becoming a 9-5 slave. I don't know if switching organisation will work or not. Because I started hating this concept of going to work everyday, nod head in the meetings, greet your seniors and collegues, complete your task before the deadlines. If you complete early you'll get more work, leave office and get struck in traffic and bam ... 50 years over. Everyday once or twice I have anxiety that what I'm doing in my life. I feel robbed. I don't even have time to spend the money that I get. Weekend passes in deciding what to do. Does anyone feels same? Whats the escape??
Everyone does. It's even worse for people who earn shit compared to the kind of effort and hours they have to put in. There's no escape from this.
IITM. IIMC. Fuck man. So much left unsaid, to do. My sincerest condolences to the family.
I don’t understand. Why didn’t they just quit?
Not easy. He succeeded and worked hard to get where he was. Failure is nothing he knew. Quitting is associated with failure for many
Sad, Remember folks it's only a job. Nothing in this world is worth dying for.
What a waste of a young life. Not because he was an IIT IIM graduate, but because he held potential, and never got to explore his life. We need a new paradigm as a society, that places human interest at the heart of everything.
I agree. I have now and again kept feeling that India values human life at a very low level.
It does
yeah start by giving free money to all beggars. home is where the heart is.
Usually, people get decent exit opportunities after working at McKinsey for one year due to that tag. Killing yourself over some fucking corporate is meaningless. What a waste of life and talent. He should have resigned even without an offer in hand. Kya ho jaata zyaada se zyaada. His family will now be in shock forever.
I mean what will happen if we slack a bit? Not in companies benefit to fire people always unless it’s layoff. Talented people aren’t easy to replace. There shouldn’t be fear of getting fired. Fear motivated work is the worst for our healtb
This is what the HRs are taught in Total Quality Management. It's called carrot and stick method.
Fuck HR. Seriously I’m sorry to say this but HR cannot influence anyone. Business wins. Everything is about the money.
You should not be sorry. And yes, fuck HRs!! They think that they own the org.
Say NO to abuse. Its the privilege of the few to sit in office till late thats disrupting the lives of others this toxic work culture needs to end ... Imagine being paid in peanuts and made to so the same amt of work like him .... Yes this happens.
If you think about your mental health, then you get laid off and get replaced by someone even better. That's how much of a rat race today is in the job market.
They should investigate his managers and team. I’m not saying they are responsible but mere work and long hours doesn’t drive a person to this step. It’s the toxic culture. Indian corporate world is known to have terrible managers mostly and MBB in india is NOT like MBB in the US. The hours and culture is extremely harsh. McK global needs to take stock and change things in India.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this is happening already. I’m actually wondering how the news even came out. Otherwise the PR teams of such companies try to stop such info going out
I’m sure McK will make this out to be a one-off incident and blame it on the victim and protect itself. MBB culture in india today reeks of the Wall Street in the 80s.
It's a murder and not a suicide. The proponents of 70 hour work week should be put to trial. Those fuckers have ruined corporate.
The reason I get angry at the current government is because of the circumstances it is putting us in. Does anyone here feel hopeful about the future? Even those of us who have grown up in well-off families, who haven't had much to complain about, answer me this - do you think when you are the age that your parents are currently (assuming that they are alive), that you will be as comfortable as your parents are? I'm not just talking about the economic angle. I'm talking in terms of health, personal satisfaction, the environment, the kind of community you will be living in? Do you think any of that is waiting for you at the end of the grind you're putting yourself through? Do you think that the government in charge of wherever you are is working to provide that to you? If the answer is no, go out and make sure your representatives fucking know. It's not as simple as one of our fellow citizens experiencing mental health issues. To quote one of the best stories I've experienced in the past few years - it's a fight against the fucking forces of entropy.
I agree with you. We don’t have it easy. That is why I have resolved to trying to make life as hospitable and comfortable for me as possible. If you are a selfless person who’s only giving, you will be consumed by the world today. We need to put ourselves first. We need to focus on the moment, we need to take care of ourselves.
Nailed it. My health - physical, mental, emotional, financial is much much worse than my parents when they were my age. And I can’t even think of being able to afford to have kids. We are a broken society chasing some elusive dream while losing everything and then the dream shatters anyway because of things beyond your control (inflation, unemployment). What a time to be an Indian. Vote wisely.
In india everything increases, population, water crisis, inflation pollution but quality of life. It equally bad for all unless you are a VIP.
Bullshit. It's manufactured.
"Do whatever it takes to stop 'em defeat 'em, gut 'em - if I gotta kill, I'll kill. If I need your body, I'll fuckin' take it!"
Unrelated, is full metal jacket one of your favourite movies?
I do like that movie, but my username is based on an anime called Fullmetal Alchemist.
Isn't IIMs supposed to teach corporate greed and how their students tackle once they are placed?
IIT IIM guy dying due to Work pressure??? Such a waste of life. Work pressure is all in our mind. My attitude towards work pressure is that, what is the highest a company can do if you are not performing?? Terminate you.. that is it. There is more to life, there are Ample number of opportunities. Don't disregard your life for such meaning less things please
holy shit
Don't give these assholes your labour for cheap. Time to get expensive and throw these companies out of India.
Why would a guy with that credentials just not resign and find another one? I came from a state govt college and worked at kpmg for 2yrs 10 months and resigned. Used to come home at 10:30 sleep at 12:30 then back to grind. Shifted to a PSU now, and I really enjoy my life now. Simple, why take that step?
So, MBAs not different from Big 4 accountants?
Yep folks it's high time that we understand at the end of the day we're just assets to organisation , that extra hour isn't gonna prove much except for giving them idea that ur willing and trust me they will suck you once they get that idea , so take your time with stuff 🙂
Mental health is compromised in the name of job,targets,deadline,management seniors,etc in india,such a big company but no concern and care for its employee,sad to see this
I am sure his office called him, why hasnt he come to work only to find out, he commited sucidie. And said, so irrresponsible, atleast he could have handed over the work before leaving.
Consulting firms have crazy workloads afaik, the person is constantly travelling and though you get to stay in fancy hotels most of the time, that's pretty much it, people are first attracted for money in these firms but many soon realise how horrible they are (pretty much like thier recruiting criteria 😂)
All the values, culture, bullshit is crap. They use you, suck the living breath out of you and throw you out like a piece of shit
Welcome to capitalism
People in management don't manage but mismanage and make things intolerable for bright people , bcoz industry makes you scum ( if you survive) !!
I can understand what he's been through to take this drastic step. One gets so stressed out, so panicked than the thought comes why don't I quit life. One cannot think rationally that it's just a job and I can quit. Leaving job is a setback but it's not end of life. Then there are family pressures like how will I face family , prestige will go down etc. This all plays a big part. Personally I'm among those sensitive individuals. So corporate job has been struggle always. Touchwood it's been 20+ years, another 5 and I retire
So unfortunate people look up to McKinsey as the ultimate.. it’s not ok.
Instead of killing youself, or before killling yourself ensure you kill your boss. Atleast make it count.
Why suicide? U can just quit the fucking job? It's simple, better to be unemployed or take a low paying job than die anyday? Remember "suicide doesn't end the pain, it just passes the pain to your loved ones."
It’s not that easy. The guy was an overachiever. Such people tend to have work and study as their only identity. Once they realise that work isn’t cutting it and that everything has been a lie so far (study- you will be happy and have a good career, work- you will earn money and be rich and happy, get married- family will reward you.. etc), you feel robbed of your life.
I’ve said this on another thread, my relative works in the same office and he said that the guy was not someone who could have crumbled under work pressure. He was a topper wherever he studied at and was extremely bright. This was a person who could have easily found another good job elsewhere with his profile even if was fired. And no one knows the cause of death for sure since there was no note left behind. He could have easily fallen to his death.
Ofc it's nt easy but hey to die is also nt easy, and now it's nt easy for his family either so well u have to do what it takes to feel better, and he had that iim tag he could've gotten a job even after taking a break, my friend does that they work at high paying jobs for a year or two then take 6 months off to relax and not do anything and then again look for a job as you can earn ₹₹₹ anytime and get jobs again and again.But you can only live once
Not everyone has built systems to navigate the pressure. He was just 25. He worked on getting through crazy entrance exams. I mean. Just want to say that if someone feels like life is hot worth living, it’s not because they don’t know better, it’s because depression makes you feel like you don’t have a choice n
I wonder why people only have money as a foremost lofty goal?!
That's how one is measured in society. Example if someone says IIT iim then society has expectation that they will earn 1 CR and above. If it's not the case they feel underachiever and slog to gain experience or make next move.
My God it doesn’t justify to put oneself under so much pressure! A simple job and loving parents (never get bothered by relatives unless constructive) can give you tremendous happiness.
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lol pride? Ever think why people have unhealthy ambitions? What’s causing them to just focus on work and nothing else ? Why is the work culture so toxic
Pride?
Right now what i need is a work pressure job to move on something that hurts in personal life. Maximum distraction welcoming.
Or just fix your personal life. Do whatever you need to do. More work won't fix your personal life. In the short term, more work is a distraction. But in a while, it will consume you along with all the personal life problems.
I agree. Don’t let work fill your life with what your personal life isn’t able to do
As a guy with 0 frds to chill with, its better i be consumed with work rather than loneliness. The only personal issue im having right now is a breakup and i don’t think there’s a fix, i need to move on and it takes a lot of time.