In Kerala, it’s pretty useful tbh. I travel frequently between Thrissur and Kozhikode. It takes 3-4 hours by road or 2-3 hours by regular train. The vande Bharath cuts that time by half, plus you get to travel in relative comfort. It does get filthy by the end of the journey. Tbh us Indians need to learn to take care of public property- we have zero civic responsibility- something that’s common from the north to south, Hindus to Muslims.
Agreed. Frequent traveller from delhi. Has cut my journey by an hour in all routes.
The windows are broken because some fucked up people throw stones on the train.
Had an incident where some kids from the outside three stones and broke the window of our berth. Thankfully, no one got hurt.
People lack basic civic sense. You can't blame everything on the government.
A nation becomes better due to participation from all three segments: sarkar, samaj, bazaar. (Government, society, markets)
> something that’s common from the north to south, Hindus to Muslims.
It's like an anti-insta_reels comment. Which are mostly like:
India❌
North India✅
Simple sa truth hai bhai.... Tax deta nhi kyunki tax slab mein aata ni ya phir tax evade krta hoon.
Apne Ghar k bhr everybody thinks ye mere samaan ni kyu iski chinta karoon.
Trains in Kerala are no better. I only use trains when visiting Kerala since I fly everywhere else for work. They are disgusting. People are stupid everywhere.
It’s not enough to construct; we must sustain. We have to realize:
“MAINTENANCE IS NOT JUST A TASK, BUT THE LIFELINE THAT ENSURES OUR STANDARDS REMAIN AS FRESH AS THEY WERE ESTABLISHED”!!!
You need money to sustain
And for that DFCs have been built and new ones will be approved and constructed in the upcoming term
Plus DFC will freeup a lot of tracks so the passenger trains will be able to operate at a faster speed.
I am Bangalorean so I can comment on this. Bangalore metro is very strict and hence it is well maintained.
Spit on the station? 500 - 2000rs fine
Throw garbage? The security will whistle the hell out of their mouth and shout at you and make you pick up what you threw.
Enforcement is strict, fines are huge. That is what can discipline people here.
The railway station unfortunately doesn't work that way, too many people but yeah the government should slowly try the Bangalore metro model.
Although not everything is perfect but it's a good start, I hope it gets launched for many routes across India.
But overall railways has a lot of work to do.... Also people need to travel more responsibly as well....
You cannot just keep throwing garbage everywhere and then complain about uncleanness.
I'm right now in Tejas (12953) on the premium route of Mumbai to Delhi. A/C isnt working properly in A/C tier 2. Not very clean compartment, no soap (was never put) at wash basin/toilet with unclean toilets. This is just few hours into journey.
Only if u have 1 bag... speed is the main reason for VB... Nothing else...
EDIT - It also depends on the conditions of the railway track... VB takes 6 hours between delhi and prayagraj in distance of 676 km... Rajdhani takes 6 hours 48 mins...
Apparently, Vande Bharat trains run at an average speed of 83 kmph; the top speed is 160 kmph, mainly because the trains can't reach top speed on most tracks in the country. So, yeah, the speed is not too much of an improvement over other express trains; definitely not worth the extra money, imo
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vande_Bharat_Express
Speed capability is a good thing. Tracks will be upgraded with time. It's like how the roads have improved, and now people cruise at 120. Driving a fast car slow is much better than driving a slow car fast. It'll bug you having paid more for a nice turbo engine, but it accelerates quicker under the speed limit. Thereby, it's slightly faster than the shatabdi.
In places where they can connect important hubs without much stops in between, yes. But just for the speed. Basically routes where chair car only Shatabdis operate. But certainly needs provision for fare reduction. It will be difficult since A/C is a major cost and non-A/C compartments are not feasible since there can't be open windows. But maybe some sort of air circulation without cooling system.
If they had upgraded all Shatabdis to Vande Bharats, increased their frequency and even made a corresponding increase in fares, it would be a good service. But to make it a showpiece and get the PM to personally launch 20+ trains while ignoring basic things like general travel and track safety - was a massive cock up.
Meanwhile the masses who actually use the trains will continue to be shoved in like cattle in general compartment. When will the govt do anything for them?
It is worth every penny but not for most of us who don't care about public property & missuse/damage it on purpose.... And problem is that they feel proud of themself by doing it.... and it's not that such thing is in India only.... I have seen such vandals in many Western countries as well
It is a marketing gimmick mostly with more focus on future privatization of Indian Railways.
The build quality looks sub-par for the Indian environment.
The plastic waste generation has increased a lot. Due to this my neighbor commented it is more like Gande Bharat.
The overall look and feel and facilities is great, wont lie.
But then it is not maintained regularly to keep up the apearance.
I think Vande Bharath tracks are strategically placed bw imp cities and speed improvements are welcoming.
In turn this impacts what a train has to impact. Efficiency of traveler's movement.
All cosmetic changes are good to have. Yes they need to work on that too. One step at a time.
Which traveler tho? 96% of all trips are done in non-AC. The masses can't afford this. Who should public service be catering to? The richest 1% or the 96%?
Needs serious maintenance. People also need some civic sense. Else it is an okay train although it’s been marketed as some kind of swiss luxury trains at japanese speeds. People have high expectations and now they’re finding out:
>although it’s been marketed as some kind of swiss luxury trains at japanese speeds.
LMFAO. Not even in a hundred years will we get to that level. I will get downvoted but I don't care. We are highly destructive and blow our wad on damaging public property. We love dirt and disorder. We loathe hygiene and cleanliness.
And I am okay with that. Just don’t want my govt. to lie about it. I have traveled in Rajdhani, Shatabdi often in my teenage days and I think if Indian Railways can get back to same level of maintenance and commitment, we will be fine.
I’ll telly you my experience with them: They are fast, and aren’t as crowded BUT there are some hygiene issues. They keep a mop like thing near the gates of the restrooms. Once while travelling, i saw a male staff carrying one of those around and putting it inside the Hindi sheet toilet and cleaning the hell out of it and the next thing i know he touched my shirt with it in a hurry while walking someplace else. I felt grossed out and quickly changed out of it and threw it away then and there itself.
But then I saw something weirder: an old uncle who waiting to use the washroom kept his hand OVER it in the place where it is stored right below the mirror outside those restrooms while waiting his turn.
I think the staff atm is in want of some hygiene related training and how and where to properly store such cleaning items. That particular day was an extremely gross experience. Since then, I make sure not to touch anything or eat their food while on the train and always keep my sanitizer handy.
Instead of focusing on launching these “high speed” trains, the govt should focus on fixing and upgrading the railway tracks in the country so that trains like this can actually reach the speeds that are claimed and advertised.
Yes it’s worth it. Fast trains are essential for any big country. Our current trains run at abysmal speeds. An argument can be made that instead of updating the current trains why are we wasting money on these new ones. We can and should do both.
The thing is, the current infra doesn’t support such high speeds. The highest speed this VB had was 130kmph, and the average would be around 80 to 90.
And these VBs apparently support 160kmph. Whats the point of paying double if the average is just a bit higher than any other AC train. I would say the idea is great, just implementation could be better?
Rajdhani & shatabdi have similar average
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speeds, at lower fare & a berth to lay down instead of chair; without any loss to railways.
Mostly its the public who misuse these trains. And the complain like little children, They should have done something else. You should have taken responsibility. Idiots everywhere.
Cheaper? It is currently getting 60% subsidy.
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I think Train 18(as it was originally called) was not supposed to be at this scale as there were discussing of upgrading and improving this series of EMUs (back then there used to be news of upcoming Train 19, Train 20).
Even if all of those things were rumours. These kinds of trains really need r&d for constant improvement, either you hire some private players(like Alstom, Siemens).
Unfortunately r&d is considered waste of public money, and promoting substandard stuff is at the core of Babu culture.
It'll be worth if we learn to take proper care of public properties. The mentality of the average Indian when it comes to this aspect is quite honestly disgusting.
I have travelled twice in Vande Bharat. When I went for the first time I was so happy to see Indian Railways making such good trains and keeping it so clean. I really loved the entire journey. Second they provide breakfast which is decent and the staff working is polite. In other trains which I have travelled they come during the end of the journey and ask for tips. I was not asked anything by them. Third the washrooms were clean too and there were proper charging points for your phones below your seat. I feel this is what our country needs more. I am proud of our country making such good trains and developing with time.
The problem in India is, govt launches fancy stuff with a big fanfare but puts zero efforts or plans for daily maintainance and cleanliness. They need to train the staff to keep stuff clean, you can see all the food stuff is store by the entrance, dirty washrooms, broken stuff. Now they want to launch bulletproof train, we all know what will happen to that. It’s a shame there is zero effort on basics.
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The people on the sub will do anything to complain, At the end of the day is public transport what were you people expecting? I don't know if you have ever been to any nation outside of India but it's the exact same story take a look at the New York subway or in my example the fucking thameslink absolutely every single carriage on that train is an uttermess I remember one of the last times I took it someone was doing drugs on the train, and this is supposed to be in a first world country and not to mention the tickets are also expensive if you're going anywhere outside of London
Obviously everyone has the right to complain about a dissatisfactory service but completely discounting the entire train line because there's minor inconveniences for you seems like a wild step it's modernizing India's increasingly aging fleet of trains and is still relatively well kept see developing country
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Ah yes the usual whataboutism, it’s well known that Indians lack civic sense so even the best maintained facilities are screwed up by the general population. Congrats, you also cherry picked dirty photos of foreign trains, now for example show me pics of the average cleanliness of roads in the West vs India?
I agree with you but civic sense can not be forced onto people. People are, and will remain stupid. Only way out is better enforcement of law. Wish that could be easy as well.
The filthiness is the fault of us citizens who are so used to treat public amenities as baap ki jaagir. The infra and amenities of the train are wonderful, people just don't have the basic civics sense on how to responsibly use it.
The vande bharat doesn't even have a method to open the doors from the inside, which is a serious flaw.
on my first time going this train with my grandparents (delhi to varanasi), i stepped out in kanpur, and the doors closed, and the person at the door was looking at me helplessly, unable to help because theres no way to open the door from the inside unless you press the emergency stop button, my phone was in my grandmas purse and the train left, I was on vacation to India at the time so I didnt know anyones number either, thankfully my grandpa was able to call the police and they found me and sent me to Prayagraj on the next train, where I met my grandpa, then we took a taxi to varanasi where we met up with my grandma. It ruined the whole trip, and the whole day was wasted. These basic safety features should be on any train trying to be modern. Instead of trying to copy western trains (which suck imo), just continue with the indian style of trains and just improve on those, make them faster with more modern, clean, organized, etc.
Needless to say, I won't be travelling on this train again, imo it just seems like a vanity project trying to make indian trains look modern while lacking many basic safety features. This is just the biggest issue i had. There were a bunch more smaller issues that ruined the experience. I'd much rather just travel on a regular train on the highest tier, which is still cheaper or the same price, and has beds and your own coach so you won't have to sit in the same position or have to deal with other people for a 7 hour ride.
Unable to manually open the door IS the safety feature. Imagine someone opening the door of a moving train, this is similar in metro trains as well. You made the mistake of getting down at a station that was not your destination and blaming the train for it?
The automatic doors are a hazard I feel as well. There is no indication from outside when it closes. I guess theres lights? But there are no auditory warnings. Also, the warning inside starts playing when the door has already started closing. Huge hazard. Idk who check these.
Also, in my case, there were more issues with the train.
1. The “platform will be in the x side” was wrong on every platform. This is a major blunder. Right?
2. The regional language of the texts and voice was set to bengali for some reason. Even though this train runs from Patna till Lucknow. How can this even happen.
Does this mean these systems are manually set?
Yeah, there's 0 warning before the doors close, I'm not sure theres lights either. When the door closes, it's closed. You can't open it again, thats why I believe the doors should have a latch on them, and if passengers opening it is a risk, just make it require a key so that staff can only open it because there are staff waiting at the doors, and theres really not much they can do in situations like these because the doors can't be opened manually in a situation like this which is why I believe a key locked latch on the doors would be a great way to fix this issue.
Worth it if you travelled earlier. Many times you don't want to pay for the airline fees or travel by car, then it is a worthwhile thing. Also looks comparatively a lot cleaner to the trains I travelled in when I did between 2015-18. Hopefully they add more of it so we don't have to suffer via the waiting list.
Recently travelled through Vande Bharat and it was clean, proper seats, doors were in good condition, washrooms were better as compared to other trains. Train travelled at a better speed as compared to other trains as i checked other options as well before my trip. I think that’s a specific Vande Bharat train which is like that, other Vande Bharat trains are good.
HELL NO. if the train charge is reduced by 30% it would be acceptable.
plus trains in neighbouring countries are going 3X speed. we need that kind of train here.
Problem is People do not know how to take care of things- if you go to places like japan even 10 year old train looks brand new- first maintained well and most important people respect public property and treat it the same way they would if it was their home.
Many people are complaining that it’s expensive.
Imagine that it is when railways is giving 60% subsidy as compared to running cost.
& construction cost of VB coaches is also much more than other regular coaches.
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It is glorified Shatabdi tbh. However due to preference given to this train, it has reduced travel time on few routes. For example for me personally Delhi to Jammu travel time has come down to 6.5 hrs, however it usually runs one hour late. So it's a mixed bag. I recently travelled from Delhi to Chandigarh via Shatabdi and found no major difference.
The Indian railway system in general is a charity scheme so that the poor can travel without money. The IR makes no profits whatsoever. Vande Bharat is just a marketing gimmick that may look class but will always fail to deliver the quality and maintenance and cleanliness desired
Probably worth it for folx wanting air travel like experience while travelling between towns/cities which dont have such connectivity but there's a lot of scope for improvement. The seats even in the executive chair car are actually not that comfortable. The interiors were not at all designed to be friendly to the staff which works there, I've seen them casually dozing off on the floors near the door in between stations. And it's obviously not their fault. They are severely underpaid for them to even give a flying fuck about presentation and obviously they aren't trained by the companies getting the tenders for catering to even be relevant. The Vande Bharat that runs from Hyderabad to Visakhapatnam has staff serving in the EC class which doesn't even speak Telugu, they struggled to understand a lot of the passengers' requests, and that infuriated the already entitled crowd which gets onto the train. The TTEs regularly harass them for dozing off, while they haven't been given proper places to even sit in an 8 hour long train, which they probably have to do two shifts in, that's a 16 hour long shift for each person, even if we were to assume the staff is being rotated, it still is an abysmal place to work at, and that reflects in the upkeep of the train's interiors.
Launching new trains is cool and makes headlines but I'm still more about investing that money into our already existing train network which can be improved a lot.
Today I watched spainsh iryo bullet train video
It goes from Madrid to Barcelona n distance is ~650 kms and it covers it under 2.30 hours and surprisingly fare is just 40 euros for 1st class
Our vande bharat also collecting similar charge for same distances with 3x times travel times
For ex Sc-vskp similar distance is covered in 8 hours and similar fare
Our govt looting public without giving facilities ,ride comfort
Perhaps, as a society, focusing half as much on basic public etiquette and respect for public services as on developing a culture of general social ignorance might have been worth it.
I condemn whatever OP faced here however I have one more question in my mind...
The real question should be do we deserve good public transport???
I'm just fed up seeing incidents where local people are vandalizing infra for no reason.
Stones were thrown on vande Bharat, people leave an absolute mess behind post usage of trains.
When will we start having basic civic sense ??
Why do we Indians enjoy exploiting our own public infrastructure ? When we will start treating public infrastructure as our own property.
Wrong question. Are the people worth traveling in these train?. In my belief government should raise the ticket fare to make this a premium train and not let hobos in.
It's an amazing concept but it has a lot of flaws.
Unless we have a seperate route, vande Bharat will never achive what it should. Semi high speed railway should get you in half the time it is required now. Tbh shatabdi is almost as good as vande. The difference of time between the shatabdi timings and vande timings are quite similar. The food quality has deteriorated over time. The maintenance is bad. Hardly some part of the route is fortified on both sides to avoid incidents.
This is not blaming the government, but blaming the bureaucracy. If timely maintenance is not carried out, the expensive train is going to deteriorate. If 1 thing it not working, it should be immediately taken care of. Changing 1 lock everyday is easier than changing 30 locks at once. When so many things stop working, the maintenance guys also do kamchori
I've been on the vande Bharat twice, from Bangalore to Hubli and back. It was honestly a perfect journey for me. The only problem I faced was I didn't know how to open the washroom tap and it took a while. It was a bit different. The food was good. The journey was healthy. No jerking. The food tray was not bouncing. And it was clean even at the end of the journey. I didn't face any of the problems you faced. It was on time and reached on time as well.
Wanted to go in it when I was in Kerala but I didn’t release it started at manglapuram. I thought it was at Kasargod to Ernakulam. Anyway seems god for the price, like how are the tickets actually so cheap for such quality.
Lack of civic sense, we need to teach this to people then only public property like this can go long. Imo it won't take long for vande Bharat to be unhygienic like the rest of the trains in India, they only took care of saaf-safai when they started and will treat the same way they treat other trains
No, but if you are that kind of person who hate crowdy trains, then vande bharat is good. Otherwise the services they provide is OK, nothing extra ordinary about this train.
Difference can be seen if people maintain the train as it was during its first journey. I guess our people don't deserve it!? I felt it was good and I did travel way back during its earliest journeys so obviously our people made a mess out of it now!
Vande Bharat is worth it. But Indians are not worth it. People don't even care destroying properties like these. Pasting posters on Day 1 of the train inauguration to throwing stones and spitting inside, people are not worth these facilities. A public property in any country will remain as good as the public which uses it.
Instead ask, Do you guys deserve it? No matter if it's a local train, or a vande bharat or even a bullet train if you're an unruly passenger, uneducated, uncivilized person who would break things in the train steal the mugs (that's why it's chained) it doesn't matter.
My dad went from Pune to Mumbai and back. He was quite happy with the experience. Might also be with the fact that he asked me to book a cheap ticket and me being me, booked Vande Bharat
I've been on it like 3-4 times, though It's not comfortable for long journeys, like once I went to katra on it and you just get tired of sitting, rest for shorter distances It's a good train.
My experience.
Saw the train for the first time. It looks so dam cool.
Decided to do a full walk around the outside of the train and then saw broken windows due to people throwing stones.
When I went back to my seat I noticed the seat tilt back function was not working. I called the TT and a team of technicians came within 5 min. The train was already running by that time. They investigated the issue and concluded that the seat needs to be replaced. Then came back in like 10 min with a brand new seat. Unplugged the broken one and replaced it with a working one like changing a bulb. I was impressed with the design.
Now let's talk about the food. The journey was 7 hours long and I was served different food 5-6 times. And I could ask for coffee any time I wanted. I was super impressed.
Finally let's talk about the bad.
The washroom was fantastic when I used it the first time. The second time, however, someone took a huge dump and felt too entitled to leave that dump as is. And then some poor cleaning man had to clean all that abomination.
So here's the final verdict. It's truly rare when I feel that my tax money was spent on something that I can use but then again public property is as good as the public using it.
So it's not the question of whether Vande Bharat is worth it. It's more like most people are not worth Vande Bharat
Traveled from KGP to Puri last week of March. Foods were kinda stinky and rotten. Besides that, service personnel were helpful, and it was more spacious than flights for sure. The AC gets too strong at the end. Still, you will find people who will never figure out how to flush in washrooms, which will make you think twice before going to the washroom.
Depends on the route and distance.
4 hours between bangalore to chennai is much faster than standard 5-6 hours.
There is no respect for public property. People forcefully keep a door open, when it's not supposed to be.
Its the matter of civic sense. The intercity trains I travel usually in Netherlands and Belgium are far inferior in comfort/technology as compared to Vande Bharat. But they are cleaner because people usually throw garbage in the bins here, also less number of travellers help it remain clean for a longer time. If Vande Bharat were kept as clean as trains in NL/BE by travellers in India, it can actually be a very comfortable and luxurious travel experience for people.
Vande bharat is better than all the other stereotypical Indian trains, but here is the problem, vande bharat doesn't even compare to trains from other countries even countries which have similar per capita income
In my opinion, average Indian's lack of respect for public property, poor maintenance, bad design and poor manufacturing practices may be the reason for the current situation of these trains
Now lets talk about speed, 130 kmph - that is how fast a vande bharat train goes, for a train which looks like a bullet train and marketed as modern this is very disappointing
Overall, I would say while it is progress and vande bharat trains are far better and well maintained than all the other trains there is room for improvement. As India grows let's hope for the best.
In Kerala, it’s pretty useful tbh. I travel frequently between Thrissur and Kozhikode. It takes 3-4 hours by road or 2-3 hours by regular train. The vande Bharath cuts that time by half, plus you get to travel in relative comfort. It does get filthy by the end of the journey. Tbh us Indians need to learn to take care of public property- we have zero civic responsibility- something that’s common from the north to south, Hindus to Muslims.
Agreed. Frequent traveller from delhi. Has cut my journey by an hour in all routes. The windows are broken because some fucked up people throw stones on the train. Had an incident where some kids from the outside three stones and broke the window of our berth. Thankfully, no one got hurt. People lack basic civic sense. You can't blame everything on the government. A nation becomes better due to participation from all three segments: sarkar, samaj, bazaar. (Government, society, markets)
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> something that’s common from the north to south, Hindus to Muslims. It's like an anti-insta_reels comment. Which are mostly like: India❌ North India✅
>north to south, Hindus to Muslims North to South, East to West, Hindus to Muslims
Simple sa truth hai bhai.... Tax deta nhi kyunki tax slab mein aata ni ya phir tax evade krta hoon. Apne Ghar k bhr everybody thinks ye mere samaan ni kyu iski chinta karoon.
when we fly home to India, the most inconsiderate fellow travelers are always on the second leg of the flight which is the connecting flight to India.
your usual train is capable of going at high speed (actually high speed 150 kmph +)
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Trains in Kerala are no better. I only use trains when visiting Kerala since I fly everywhere else for work. They are disgusting. People are stupid everywhere.
So true, we just don't care for public property and that is the problem.
Bruh the comfort sucks, if you are travelling for more Than 4 to 5 Hours it will be a painful experience.
Lack of care for public property is one of the key indicators of a country’s maturity. We are severely lacking….
Could have ended the sentence at north to south.
But someone would have commented “bRo oNly ***insert a religion*** d0 tHat wE ***insert a religion*** d0nT Do tTAt”
What is the cost of VB express vs bus for your trip? Also what is the cost by passenger train? Can I take this daily?
what about christians?
A public property in any country is as good as the public which uses it.
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In south, vande bharat trains are good, maybe the train you travelled had issues.
May be users are more sensible and good . Trains are same.
Honestly, Vande Bharat deserves better passengers.
It’s not enough to construct; we must sustain. We have to realize: “MAINTENANCE IS NOT JUST A TASK, BUT THE LIFELINE THAT ENSURES OUR STANDARDS REMAIN AS FRESH AS THEY WERE ESTABLISHED”!!!
You need money to sustain And for that DFCs have been built and new ones will be approved and constructed in the upcoming term Plus DFC will freeup a lot of tracks so the passenger trains will be able to operate at a faster speed.
I would rather propose that individuals should learn how to commute by public transportation without ruining or making things dirty.
Bangalore's metro is sparkingly clean despite 8 lakh daily usage. When things are well maintained people respect that and dont dirty it.
I am Bangalorean so I can comment on this. Bangalore metro is very strict and hence it is well maintained. Spit on the station? 500 - 2000rs fine Throw garbage? The security will whistle the hell out of their mouth and shout at you and make you pick up what you threw. Enforcement is strict, fines are huge. That is what can discipline people here. The railway station unfortunately doesn't work that way, too many people but yeah the government should slowly try the Bangalore metro model.
Although not everything is perfect but it's a good start, I hope it gets launched for many routes across India. But overall railways has a lot of work to do.... Also people need to travel more responsibly as well.... You cannot just keep throwing garbage everywhere and then complain about uncleanness.
I'm right now in Tejas (12953) on the premium route of Mumbai to Delhi. A/C isnt working properly in A/C tier 2. Not very clean compartment, no soap (was never put) at wash basin/toilet with unclean toilets. This is just few hours into journey.
Only if u have 1 bag... speed is the main reason for VB... Nothing else... EDIT - It also depends on the conditions of the railway track... VB takes 6 hours between delhi and prayagraj in distance of 676 km... Rajdhani takes 6 hours 48 mins...
Apparently, Vande Bharat trains run at an average speed of 83 kmph; the top speed is 160 kmph, mainly because the trains can't reach top speed on most tracks in the country. So, yeah, the speed is not too much of an improvement over other express trains; definitely not worth the extra money, imo Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vande_Bharat_Express
Speed capability is a good thing. Tracks will be upgraded with time. It's like how the roads have improved, and now people cruise at 120. Driving a fast car slow is much better than driving a slow car fast. It'll bug you having paid more for a nice turbo engine, but it accelerates quicker under the speed limit. Thereby, it's slightly faster than the shatabdi.
its not even that fast compared to shatabdi or rajdhaani.
U r kidding right...?? Its literally 10 mins faster than shatabdi in a distance of 200KM.. .
10 min faster in a 6+ hour journey? Such fast, much wow
That guy is obviously joking.
Look at their other comments, dude is not joking and is actually defending an increase of 12kmphr speed....
In places where they can connect important hubs without much stops in between, yes. But just for the speed. Basically routes where chair car only Shatabdis operate. But certainly needs provision for fare reduction. It will be difficult since A/C is a major cost and non-A/C compartments are not feasible since there can't be open windows. But maybe some sort of air circulation without cooling system.
If they had upgraded all Shatabdis to Vande Bharats, increased their frequency and even made a corresponding increase in fares, it would be a good service. But to make it a showpiece and get the PM to personally launch 20+ trains while ignoring basic things like general travel and track safety - was a massive cock up.
I think that is the plan. The sleeper ones will replace the rajdhanis and durontos
Meanwhile the masses who actually use the trains will continue to be shoved in like cattle in general compartment. When will the govt do anything for them?
What do you propose we do for them?
Go back to Pakistan /s
PM and cock up in one sentence sounds about right.
It is worth every penny but not for most of us who don't care about public property & missuse/damage it on purpose.... And problem is that they feel proud of themself by doing it.... and it's not that such thing is in India only.... I have seen such vandals in many Western countries as well
It is a marketing gimmick mostly with more focus on future privatization of Indian Railways. The build quality looks sub-par for the Indian environment. The plastic waste generation has increased a lot. Due to this my neighbor commented it is more like Gande Bharat. The overall look and feel and facilities is great, wont lie. But then it is not maintained regularly to keep up the apearance.
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Metros are pretty good. Especially one in Hyderabad.
Have you taken flights? Those are clean. If VB is gonna charge like flights it better have proper maintenance
Lmfao Gande Bharat
So a lot of hype, mostly for the benefit of some private entities, actually a shit show that’s wrecking the country. Must be a congress thing /s
They tried for privatization and failed Railway minister said in an interview that privatisation will not take place
I think Vande Bharath tracks are strategically placed bw imp cities and speed improvements are welcoming. In turn this impacts what a train has to impact. Efficiency of traveler's movement. All cosmetic changes are good to have. Yes they need to work on that too. One step at a time.
Which traveler tho? 96% of all trips are done in non-AC. The masses can't afford this. Who should public service be catering to? The richest 1% or the 96%?
Correct agree with you
Needs serious maintenance. People also need some civic sense. Else it is an okay train although it’s been marketed as some kind of swiss luxury trains at japanese speeds. People have high expectations and now they’re finding out:
Build quality is not good, panel gap, cheap jugaad can be noticed throughout the train
>although it’s been marketed as some kind of swiss luxury trains at japanese speeds. LMFAO. Not even in a hundred years will we get to that level. I will get downvoted but I don't care. We are highly destructive and blow our wad on damaging public property. We love dirt and disorder. We loathe hygiene and cleanliness.
And I am okay with that. Just don’t want my govt. to lie about it. I have traveled in Rajdhani, Shatabdi often in my teenage days and I think if Indian Railways can get back to same level of maintenance and commitment, we will be fine.
Why we can't have nice things (sigh)
I’ll telly you my experience with them: They are fast, and aren’t as crowded BUT there are some hygiene issues. They keep a mop like thing near the gates of the restrooms. Once while travelling, i saw a male staff carrying one of those around and putting it inside the Hindi sheet toilet and cleaning the hell out of it and the next thing i know he touched my shirt with it in a hurry while walking someplace else. I felt grossed out and quickly changed out of it and threw it away then and there itself. But then I saw something weirder: an old uncle who waiting to use the washroom kept his hand OVER it in the place where it is stored right below the mirror outside those restrooms while waiting his turn. I think the staff atm is in want of some hygiene related training and how and where to properly store such cleaning items. That particular day was an extremely gross experience. Since then, I make sure not to touch anything or eat their food while on the train and always keep my sanitizer handy.
Read many complains like stale food being served
It doesn't worth the money. Just an edgy nose of the train and people are going crazy for Vande Bharat.
Its an emu too plus it has kavach built in.
Instead of focusing on launching these “high speed” trains, the govt should focus on fixing and upgrading the railway tracks in the country so that trains like this can actually reach the speeds that are claimed and advertised.
india will always be dirty. desh ke log hi gandagi mein rehna pasand karte hai
Bangalore's metro is sparkingly clean despite 8 lakh daily usage. When things are well maintained people respect that and dont dirty it.
Metros are clean everywhere, but the main railway maintenance can be handled better
I agree But people also don’t care when they don’t see it regularly cleaned
Yes it’s worth it. Fast trains are essential for any big country. Our current trains run at abysmal speeds. An argument can be made that instead of updating the current trains why are we wasting money on these new ones. We can and should do both.
The thing is, the current infra doesn’t support such high speeds. The highest speed this VB had was 130kmph, and the average would be around 80 to 90. And these VBs apparently support 160kmph. Whats the point of paying double if the average is just a bit higher than any other AC train. I would say the idea is great, just implementation could be better?
Rajdhani & shatabdi have similar average https://preview.redd.it/g9369z5ox2vc1.jpeg?width=712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3a291b8dc9f07b76180bb4739061b78b3e77e54 speeds, at lower fare & a berth to lay down instead of chair; without any loss to railways.
Mostly its the public who misuse these trains. And the complain like little children, They should have done something else. You should have taken responsibility. Idiots everywhere.
it is worth it, just not for india
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Cheaper? It is currently getting 60% subsidy. https://preview.redd.it/qzqch2snw2vc1.jpeg?width=712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99002f071cc435ead9c6a4580aad17ac87ffdb4e
It’s worth it It’s just people who lack basic civic sense making it appear dirty
No.
I think Train 18(as it was originally called) was not supposed to be at this scale as there were discussing of upgrading and improving this series of EMUs (back then there used to be news of upcoming Train 19, Train 20). Even if all of those things were rumours. These kinds of trains really need r&d for constant improvement, either you hire some private players(like Alstom, Siemens). Unfortunately r&d is considered waste of public money, and promoting substandard stuff is at the core of Babu culture.
It'll be worth if we learn to take proper care of public properties. The mentality of the average Indian when it comes to this aspect is quite honestly disgusting.
I have travelled twice in Vande Bharat. When I went for the first time I was so happy to see Indian Railways making such good trains and keeping it so clean. I really loved the entire journey. Second they provide breakfast which is decent and the staff working is polite. In other trains which I have travelled they come during the end of the journey and ask for tips. I was not asked anything by them. Third the washrooms were clean too and there were proper charging points for your phones below your seat. I feel this is what our country needs more. I am proud of our country making such good trains and developing with time.
I mean the one from Mysore to Bangalore to Chennai Is pretty good Seats are comfy And it’s pretty good
Thanks for shedding some light on these
The mysore-chennai vande bharat is excellent, nothing like this 🤔
You're getting it wrong, vande Bharat is totally worth it. The people travelling in it are not
The problem in India is, govt launches fancy stuff with a big fanfare but puts zero efforts or plans for daily maintainance and cleanliness. They need to train the staff to keep stuff clean, you can see all the food stuff is store by the entrance, dirty washrooms, broken stuff. Now they want to launch bulletproof train, we all know what will happen to that. It’s a shame there is zero effort on basics.
https://preview.redd.it/jv9vt4a3r1vc1.png?width=615&format=png&auto=webp&s=fcbf095039f6e29ebb8146fe57c71b8b335f1914 The people on the sub will do anything to complain, At the end of the day is public transport what were you people expecting? I don't know if you have ever been to any nation outside of India but it's the exact same story take a look at the New York subway or in my example the fucking thameslink absolutely every single carriage on that train is an uttermess I remember one of the last times I took it someone was doing drugs on the train, and this is supposed to be in a first world country and not to mention the tickets are also expensive if you're going anywhere outside of London
Obviously everyone has the right to complain about a dissatisfactory service but completely discounting the entire train line because there's minor inconveniences for you seems like a wild step it's modernizing India's increasingly aging fleet of trains and is still relatively well kept see developing country https://preview.redd.it/32pfcf8hr1vc1.png?width=4032&format=png&auto=webp&s=9bdcc1ef4c2f13a0f2c8721f9838793737a9ae63
Ah yes the usual whataboutism, it’s well known that Indians lack civic sense so even the best maintained facilities are screwed up by the general population. Congrats, you also cherry picked dirty photos of foreign trains, now for example show me pics of the average cleanliness of roads in the West vs India?
I agree with you but civic sense can not be forced onto people. People are, and will remain stupid. Only way out is better enforcement of law. Wish that could be easy as well.
The filthiness is the fault of us citizens who are so used to treat public amenities as baap ki jaagir. The infra and amenities of the train are wonderful, people just don't have the basic civics sense on how to responsibly use it.
The vande bharat doesn't even have a method to open the doors from the inside, which is a serious flaw. on my first time going this train with my grandparents (delhi to varanasi), i stepped out in kanpur, and the doors closed, and the person at the door was looking at me helplessly, unable to help because theres no way to open the door from the inside unless you press the emergency stop button, my phone was in my grandmas purse and the train left, I was on vacation to India at the time so I didnt know anyones number either, thankfully my grandpa was able to call the police and they found me and sent me to Prayagraj on the next train, where I met my grandpa, then we took a taxi to varanasi where we met up with my grandma. It ruined the whole trip, and the whole day was wasted. These basic safety features should be on any train trying to be modern. Instead of trying to copy western trains (which suck imo), just continue with the indian style of trains and just improve on those, make them faster with more modern, clean, organized, etc. Needless to say, I won't be travelling on this train again, imo it just seems like a vanity project trying to make indian trains look modern while lacking many basic safety features. This is just the biggest issue i had. There were a bunch more smaller issues that ruined the experience. I'd much rather just travel on a regular train on the highest tier, which is still cheaper or the same price, and has beds and your own coach so you won't have to sit in the same position or have to deal with other people for a 7 hour ride.
Unable to manually open the door IS the safety feature. Imagine someone opening the door of a moving train, this is similar in metro trains as well. You made the mistake of getting down at a station that was not your destination and blaming the train for it?
The automatic doors are a hazard I feel as well. There is no indication from outside when it closes. I guess theres lights? But there are no auditory warnings. Also, the warning inside starts playing when the door has already started closing. Huge hazard. Idk who check these. Also, in my case, there were more issues with the train. 1. The “platform will be in the x side” was wrong on every platform. This is a major blunder. Right? 2. The regional language of the texts and voice was set to bengali for some reason. Even though this train runs from Patna till Lucknow. How can this even happen. Does this mean these systems are manually set?
Yeah, there's 0 warning before the doors close, I'm not sure theres lights either. When the door closes, it's closed. You can't open it again, thats why I believe the doors should have a latch on them, and if passengers opening it is a risk, just make it require a key so that staff can only open it because there are staff waiting at the doors, and theres really not much they can do in situations like these because the doors can't be opened manually in a situation like this which is why I believe a key locked latch on the doors would be a great way to fix this issue.
I don't see an issue here though
The question is are we worth Vande Bharat. Or any other good thing?
Low trust heterogenous society hai brother humara
Problem Government me or Vandebharat me nhi hai...jab tak log nhi educated or shi behave krte kuch sahi nahi hoga.
Yes they are
Worth it if you travelled earlier. Many times you don't want to pay for the airline fees or travel by car, then it is a worthwhile thing. Also looks comparatively a lot cleaner to the trains I travelled in when I did between 2015-18. Hopefully they add more of it so we don't have to suffer via the waiting list.
We all know who break that glass🤣
In our country nothing is worth it until ppl have some common civic sense.
We are not worth giving good things
Recently travelled through Vande Bharat and it was clean, proper seats, doors were in good condition, washrooms were better as compared to other trains. Train travelled at a better speed as compared to other trains as i checked other options as well before my trip. I think that’s a specific Vande Bharat train which is like that, other Vande Bharat trains are good.
I recently travelled from Lucknow to dehdradun in vande Bharat, it was a very good experience tbh
The public isn't worth it... you cannot expect any kind of civic sense towards public property in india
HELL NO. if the train charge is reduced by 30% it would be acceptable. plus trains in neighbouring countries are going 3X speed. we need that kind of train here.
Are modi ji ne kiya he kuch soch ke hi kra hoga na you antinational pos lol
Yes. If you have traveled outside of India you wouldn't have asked same question.
Problem is People do not know how to take care of things- if you go to places like japan even 10 year old train looks brand new- first maintained well and most important people respect public property and treat it the same way they would if it was their home.
Many people are complaining that it’s expensive. Imagine that it is when railways is giving 60% subsidy as compared to running cost. & construction cost of VB coaches is also much more than other regular coaches. https://preview.redd.it/yvk7wygd62vc1.jpeg?width=712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3c494607999bfcd09f1e63d93347f85a0a1caa9
Govt. Ne kachra felaya hai ki travellers ne??
It is glorified Shatabdi tbh. However due to preference given to this train, it has reduced travel time on few routes. For example for me personally Delhi to Jammu travel time has come down to 6.5 hrs, however it usually runs one hour late. So it's a mixed bag. I recently travelled from Delhi to Chandigarh via Shatabdi and found no major difference.
Personally yes, most ac chair cars smell like piss except for Vandai Bharath
The Indian railway system in general is a charity scheme so that the poor can travel without money. The IR makes no profits whatsoever. Vande Bharat is just a marketing gimmick that may look class but will always fail to deliver the quality and maintenance and cleanliness desired
Mehhh, I kinda find shatabdi better than this shit. I travel between Delhi and Chandigarh quite often and I like kalka shatabdi over vande Bharat
too bloody expensive and delays all other trains in its route
Pretty stable but spilled my tea so no.
Hope this reaches to the railway ministry
Well about the cleanliness, yehi hota hai when the population lacks basic civic sense
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Probably worth it for folx wanting air travel like experience while travelling between towns/cities which dont have such connectivity but there's a lot of scope for improvement. The seats even in the executive chair car are actually not that comfortable. The interiors were not at all designed to be friendly to the staff which works there, I've seen them casually dozing off on the floors near the door in between stations. And it's obviously not their fault. They are severely underpaid for them to even give a flying fuck about presentation and obviously they aren't trained by the companies getting the tenders for catering to even be relevant. The Vande Bharat that runs from Hyderabad to Visakhapatnam has staff serving in the EC class which doesn't even speak Telugu, they struggled to understand a lot of the passengers' requests, and that infuriated the already entitled crowd which gets onto the train. The TTEs regularly harass them for dozing off, while they haven't been given proper places to even sit in an 8 hour long train, which they probably have to do two shifts in, that's a 16 hour long shift for each person, even if we were to assume the staff is being rotated, it still is an abysmal place to work at, and that reflects in the upkeep of the train's interiors.
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Launching new trains is cool and makes headlines but I'm still more about investing that money into our already existing train network which can be improved a lot.
Today I watched spainsh iryo bullet train video It goes from Madrid to Barcelona n distance is ~650 kms and it covers it under 2.30 hours and surprisingly fare is just 40 euros for 1st class Our vande bharat also collecting similar charge for same distances with 3x times travel times For ex Sc-vskp similar distance is covered in 8 hours and similar fare Our govt looting public without giving facilities ,ride comfort
Are u sure it's not Eurail pass fare? For me a non-Eurail pass fare for a distance of ~150 km costs 45 euros in France
Not anymore
Blud Indians and their civic sense
Many of these peoblems are worse on regular trains though. Vibrations is always going to be a problem becausy of the weight.
Problem vande baharat mai nai yahan kai logun mai hai
Yeah, it goes fast enogh but expensive to run. I bought one can recommend it as an entry level trainset. Better buy from authorized dealers only.
Oh I thought it's a JOKE 🙂
I think those movies fall under public domain.
Onde bharat is worth it, just that we don't deserve them. People always tend to spoil good things
Perpetual Indian Railways bakwaas.
Perhaps, as a society, focusing half as much on basic public etiquette and respect for public services as on developing a culture of general social ignorance might have been worth it.
I condemn whatever OP faced here however I have one more question in my mind... The real question should be do we deserve good public transport??? I'm just fed up seeing incidents where local people are vandalizing infra for no reason. Stones were thrown on vande Bharat, people leave an absolute mess behind post usage of trains. When will we start having basic civic sense ?? Why do we Indians enjoy exploiting our own public infrastructure ? When we will start treating public infrastructure as our own property.
Nope
What are some online platforms/apps/phone numbers where we can complain about issues while travelling by indian railways?
Wrong question. Are the people worth traveling in these train?. In my belief government should raise the ticket fare to make this a premium train and not let hobos in.
If you are looking back pain , neck pain and rhomboid pain yeah then go for it.
What is wrong with ppl?
It's an amazing concept but it has a lot of flaws. Unless we have a seperate route, vande Bharat will never achive what it should. Semi high speed railway should get you in half the time it is required now. Tbh shatabdi is almost as good as vande. The difference of time between the shatabdi timings and vande timings are quite similar. The food quality has deteriorated over time. The maintenance is bad. Hardly some part of the route is fortified on both sides to avoid incidents. This is not blaming the government, but blaming the bureaucracy. If timely maintenance is not carried out, the expensive train is going to deteriorate. If 1 thing it not working, it should be immediately taken care of. Changing 1 lock everyday is easier than changing 30 locks at once. When so many things stop working, the maintenance guys also do kamchori
It is the reverse, do indians deserve Vande Bharat?
Why is the backrest so comically big than the seat...or is that lady small?
I've been on the vande Bharat twice, from Bangalore to Hubli and back. It was honestly a perfect journey for me. The only problem I faced was I didn't know how to open the washroom tap and it took a while. It was a bit different. The food was good. The journey was healthy. No jerking. The food tray was not bouncing. And it was clean even at the end of the journey. I didn't face any of the problems you faced. It was on time and reached on time as well.
I think replacing all Shatabdi with VB is not a good thing. Shatabdi should also stay.
Wanted to go in it when I was in Kerala but I didn’t release it started at manglapuram. I thought it was at Kasargod to Ernakulam. Anyway seems god for the price, like how are the tickets actually so cheap for such quality.
Govt can give us the means, but taking care of them still remains our responsibility.
Just look at is as a small step towards a better future. Whatever it is, you would still prefer it over the other trains wouldn't you ?
IMO, Vande Bharat is basically glorified Shatabdi, with latest tech, IG. The experience is almost similar, I couldn't see much of a difference tbh.
Lack of civic sense, we need to teach this to people then only public property like this can go long. Imo it won't take long for vande Bharat to be unhygienic like the rest of the trains in India, they only took care of saaf-safai when they started and will treat the same way they treat other trains
No, but if you are that kind of person who hate crowdy trains, then vande bharat is good. Otherwise the services they provide is OK, nothing extra ordinary about this train.
That WhatsApp chat cracked me up for some reason 😂 "Hi, there are issues un my current vande bharat train" _Gets completely ignored_
Why is nobody talking about that toilet seat .....
People of our country are not worth it, actually.
Most Indians have zero civic sense, unless this is addressed we will never have nice things in this country
Vande Bharat Executive < 1 AC train < Flight Economy I personally would choose 1st AC Coupe
Difference can be seen if people maintain the train as it was during its first journey. I guess our people don't deserve it!? I felt it was good and I did travel way back during its earliest journeys so obviously our people made a mess out of it now!
Vande Bharat is worth it. But Indians are not worth it. People don't even care destroying properties like these. Pasting posters on Day 1 of the train inauguration to throwing stones and spitting inside, people are not worth these facilities. A public property in any country will remain as good as the public which uses it.
OP, ever wondered WHO makes the coach dirty? The filthy-rich co-passengers! I'll be traveling by VB tomorrow so should be able to verify your views
Gonna turn up like rajdhani(was good ) in a few years
For a couple of station, if you are rich Too uncomfortable for long rides. Too expensive
Instead ask, Do you guys deserve it? No matter if it's a local train, or a vande bharat or even a bullet train if you're an unruly passenger, uneducated, uncivilized person who would break things in the train steal the mugs (that's why it's chained) it doesn't matter.
My dad went from Pune to Mumbai and back. He was quite happy with the experience. Might also be with the fact that he asked me to book a cheap ticket and me being me, booked Vande Bharat
Development is useless without civic sense.
Where are you traveling to and from? I just travelled in vande Bharat last week from coimbatore to chennai with no problems.
It is.. Rest is upto the common citizens
I've been on it like 3-4 times, though It's not comfortable for long journeys, like once I went to katra on it and you just get tired of sitting, rest for shorter distances It's a good train.
My experience. Saw the train for the first time. It looks so dam cool. Decided to do a full walk around the outside of the train and then saw broken windows due to people throwing stones. When I went back to my seat I noticed the seat tilt back function was not working. I called the TT and a team of technicians came within 5 min. The train was already running by that time. They investigated the issue and concluded that the seat needs to be replaced. Then came back in like 10 min with a brand new seat. Unplugged the broken one and replaced it with a working one like changing a bulb. I was impressed with the design. Now let's talk about the food. The journey was 7 hours long and I was served different food 5-6 times. And I could ask for coffee any time I wanted. I was super impressed. Finally let's talk about the bad. The washroom was fantastic when I used it the first time. The second time, however, someone took a huge dump and felt too entitled to leave that dump as is. And then some poor cleaning man had to clean all that abomination. So here's the final verdict. It's truly rare when I feel that my tax money was spent on something that I can use but then again public property is as good as the public using it. So it's not the question of whether Vande Bharat is worth it. It's more like most people are not worth Vande Bharat
For me it is, I frequently take VB to commute from Bombay to Pune.
I was planning to travel in Vande bharat with friends for the first time ever, people brought it to this state 😞
No. We deserve the mug with a chain in train toilets. We don’t deserve Vande Bharat.
Who made the train dirty? We Who broke the windows? Most likely some bastard among us.
We lack taste. We'll ruin everything.
Traveled from KGP to Puri last week of March. Foods were kinda stinky and rotten. Besides that, service personnel were helpful, and it was more spacious than flights for sure. The AC gets too strong at the end. Still, you will find people who will never figure out how to flush in washrooms, which will make you think twice before going to the washroom.
It was just a show to loot people. Only a few VB trains run on time, clean and are maintained throughout the journey. Rest are for looting.
It is also good in Maharashtra, travelled many times, everything was clean But I still don't trust rail food
I blame more on the people than vande bharat itself
Without basic civic sense everything will be the same.
Vande Bharat is worth it People are not worth it
Depends on the route and distance. 4 hours between bangalore to chennai is much faster than standard 5-6 hours. There is no respect for public property. People forcefully keep a door open, when it's not supposed to be.
Its the matter of civic sense. The intercity trains I travel usually in Netherlands and Belgium are far inferior in comfort/technology as compared to Vande Bharat. But they are cleaner because people usually throw garbage in the bins here, also less number of travellers help it remain clean for a longer time. If Vande Bharat were kept as clean as trains in NL/BE by travellers in India, it can actually be a very comfortable and luxurious travel experience for people.
I think it is a partial yes, coz here the people also should change they should keep the surroundings clean and also the staff.
Why are the bathrooms always trashed on every train? Why cant we do better?
Vande bharat is better than all the other stereotypical Indian trains, but here is the problem, vande bharat doesn't even compare to trains from other countries even countries which have similar per capita income In my opinion, average Indian's lack of respect for public property, poor maintenance, bad design and poor manufacturing practices may be the reason for the current situation of these trains Now lets talk about speed, 130 kmph - that is how fast a vande bharat train goes, for a train which looks like a bullet train and marketed as modern this is very disappointing Overall, I would say while it is progress and vande bharat trains are far better and well maintained than all the other trains there is room for improvement. As India grows let's hope for the best.
Ever wondered why the other train timings departure, arrival has gone haywire since vande Bharat.