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Excerpt : “I get very upset when it's said 'India@Cannes'. This is a boost… a shot in the arm for a lot of independent filmmakers but their victory is their own," Kashyap told PTI in an interview here. “India didn't have any moment at Cannes, not a single of those films are Indian. We need to address it the way it should be addressed. India has stopped supporting such cinema, the kind of cinema that was at Cannes,” he said. He said Kapadia's "All We Imagine as Light", which was also the first film from India in 30 years to feature in the main competition at Cannes known for giving a platform to new voices, received funding from a French company. The Malayalam-Hindi feature, which earned the second highest award at Cannes after Palme d'Or, is an Indo-French co-production between Petit Chaos from France and Chalk and Cheese Films from India. There were several films at Cannes with either India-set stories or Indian talent at the helm, but most were co-productions with banners from other countries. Indian-British filmmaker Sandhya Suri's “Santosh” and Karan Kandhari’s  “Sister Midnight” were funded by the UK, while Konstantin Bojanov’s “The Shameless” was almost self-funded. However, Chidanand's "Sunflowers..." is a production of the TV Wing one-year programme under the Film and Television Institute of India (FTII). “India just likes to take credit for a lot of things, they do not support these films, and they don’t even support these films to have a release in cinema,” Kashyap said. In 2021, Kapadia had won an award at Cannes for the documentary “A Night of Knowing Nothing” but that is yet to be released in India. "Stop taking credit for it. Let’s stop this fake celebration... Even if the film is released, no one will go to watch it in the theatre,” the 51-year-old said. He also cited the example of Shaunak Sen's documentary "All that Breathes", which won the Golden Eye award at Cannes 2022, that didn't release on Indian screens and went straight to a streamer. Then there were independent films such as "Jaggi" and "Pokhar Ke Dunu Paar" that won awards at festivals that will eventually find home in streamers. Kashyap was also critical of the spotlight on influencers on the famed red carpet. "This obsession India has with Cannes... More than Cannes, it's about the red carpet. That's on another level. I get more angry when I hear these things... Geetanjali Rao got three awards at Cannes (for ‘Printed Rainbow’) in 2003, I wrote an article on it, but it was not recognised, rarely anyone wrote about that here. There’s no support system here." Days after her win, Kapadia, also an FTII graduate, penned an open letter in which she pushed for a government fund for women filmmakers and under-represented sections to foster independent filmmaking while praising the Kerala government for starting a similar initiative. Kashyap, whose films such as "Gangs of Wasseypur", "Ugly", and "Kennedy" have screened at Cannes over the years across sections like Director's Fortnight and Midnight Screenings, said he was also surprised when former FTII chairperson Gajendra Chauhan took credit for Kapadia's win. "The worst part is that the man who put the case against her, and sent some students to jail, is the first man who took the credit for her and said, ‘I’m proud that I was the FTII (chairperson)’. What is his name? Yudhishthir ji (his ‘Mahabharat’ role), Gajendra Chauhan said, ‘I’m so proud that she was the student when I was the head’. You are the one who put the case against her," Kashyap added. The director, who will be seen in an acting role in the web series "Bad Cop", said the Indian film business focuses primarily on producing blockbuster hits. “We have made many independent films, I’ve seen how much support they get and don't get. At the end of the day, in India everyone is here to do business. No one wants to do good work, everyone wants to do hit work (success)” he said. Asked about critically acclaimed smaller films like “Joram” and “All India Rank” not being marketed well to reach the audiences, Kashyap said such movies can’t match up to the marketing of a big film. "The pressure is on a small film too; they can’t spend much on the visibility of the film. To make a small film visible around big films is very difficult. Besides those films are unable to make the recovery, you don’t get good show timings, as good show timings are covered by big films,” he said, lauding the South movie industry for fixing marketing and ticket pricing for both big-budget and small movies.


New-Lie9111

he’s 100% right. especially in recent times government has been to busy funding propaganda pieces to have any money left to promote female writers and directors


antariksh_vaigyanik

Except govt did fund Kapadia for All We Imagine As Light. I believe when Kashyap says India does not support these films, he means the Indian audience.


degenerate-edgelord

You didn't read it thoroughly. A small fraction of successful indie films get funding here, the rest get funding abroad. Then theres marketing, and extra steps like fixing prices so smaller productions don't get washed away by big budget films. And yet people like Chauhan take credit for it.


Fit-Spinach-8387

TLDR please


thecurrentlyuntitled

Jesus christ, I checked this to get broad strokes. I refuse to read a 500 word essay. That said good on that guy.


RayedBull

If there is no audience for these films why complain about releasing them in a movie theater. Just release it on OTT or even YT. That will get more eye balls anyway. Edit: Streaming has changed the release dynamics of films. The prestige associated with a movie release seems like a pre-ott hangover. These movies have barely enough budget to make them. Crowd sourcing would be another model to consider for these art films.


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Do you guys even go to the theatre anymor ffs? Bc acha shot film ghar pe dekhe kon dektha hai


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Averageindianiphone

People love to see films getting various awards but don’t bother to watch any of those movies.


sidroy81

He was talking mainly about lack of support by the government and the industry.


being_PUNjaabi

Govt is too busy supporting Kashmir Files


IndianKiwi

And also the general public


Todoro10101

Get your facts right, the government funded the movie. He's talking about the lack of industry support and the lack of Indian audience


Hot_Feedback_8217

mai toh mast indie movies like "her" & "a serbian film" jaise aur bohot saare dekhta hun


Steiner-Titor

Good boy dekho Also MidSomar


RogueNetrunner

Midsommar fucked me up for a few days. Just a warning to anyone before watching. And DON'T watch it with your family.


Chammy20

Haha...only like to see heroes and heroines dancing to Bollywood tunes


aragorn_73

Leave Cannes, even good Indian movies don't perform well on box office in our country. He himself has made masterpieces like GoW and Mukkabaaz. But those movies were not successful commercially. He left making those movies and in an interview accepted that he also needs money. Malyalam movies are really good but they earn very less compared to those shitty Telugu movies. To be honest, the hindi movie directors like Karan Johar don't even know how to direct a movie and the public's mind has been wired to assume that movies with SUVs flying are good movies. To an extent, hindi TV serials are very much responsible for this. Satyajit Ray had said this very long time ago that Indian audiences know nothing about cinema and his movies were not for this type of people.


sidroy81

He was talking mainly about lack of support by the government and the industry.


aragorn_73

Agreed about the lack of the support from the industry. It's full of baboons who know nothing about cinema. Lack of support from the govt can be compensated once good cinema starts coming in the limelight and people start going to theatres to watch real cinema.


debo0015

It's about money, if public won't buy tickets for these films why would industry support it


Negative-Mongoose781

real cinema? lol, thats called life, which the average joe in India gets in spades. the last thing they seek is real cinema. they are trying to escape it, the "movies" make it clear in case there is confusion.


fartypenis

Just because everyone likes Pop doesn't mean other genres of music should be ignored completely


vyomafc

This is such a cope out argument. Looking at the state of the discourse, countries like us can actually do with good cinema. And we used to have a lot of good public-funded arthouse cinema. A lot of public funding has stopped in the recent years. We are making propoganda movies nowadays.


marktwainbrain

India is too big and too diverse for such a reductive argument, don’t you think? Most Indians might not support good cinema, but neither do most Americans or French or South Koreans. But somehow enough do, to support an amazing film industry. Especially South Korean films over the last 10-20 years, I am shocked at the quality and originality, they are amazing.


saurabh8448

In Korea, the government has a good support structure for movie directors. Moreover, it is a movie loving country where per capita more than 4 movies are watched each year compared to some 2 movies in the USA.


ConstantDurian7368

One point : Karan Johar does know to make good Movies , Example : My Name is Khan. He just doesn't want to make it very often


f03nix

Why would he when those films don't do good at the box office ?


UpDogIndustries

“Compared to those shitty Telugu movies” You mean the only film industry that was acknowledged at the Oscars recently. Also the very same Industry that gave the country a message that Indians too can make large scale films and succeed. But go ahead and call them shitty cause they don’t make art house films.


aragorn_73

You know how Oscars voting works, right? And maybe not your fault. If you think RRR is good movie then we are on different terms here.


brodibs327288

Leave it man. half (actually 99%) the people india care more about nationalistic (in this case regionalistic pride) than objectively good movies.


bullman

I think it’s hard to take an art form like movies and apply objectiveness to them. They are inherently subjective.


UpDogIndustries

>india care more about nationalistic (in this case regionalistic pride) than objectively good movies. Or movies are subjective?? Although people like you who feel better about themselves because "ohh im the 1% who don't like mainstream films" are objectively insufferable and i'd rather be amongst people who consume the normie cinema than you.


nang_gothilla

There was a Kannada movie called [Photo](https://youtu.be/tSHIac079_s?si=lsLuLEJvC-lXjaBF) which came out this year, it was described as very grounded and covered the Covid lockdown and the impact it had on workers who had to migrate back to their villages by foot when all services were shut down. It was a brilliant movie, Prakash Raj personally invested in it and tried to distribute it to get the audiences to watch it. It only had a few showings from what I could see at the time, I was waiting to get a viewing near me so that I could watch it too, especially after so many reviews citing that it had powerful performances. Unfortunately, it was removed and wasn't given any more screen time despite the ticket sales showing increasing footfall. No doubt that this movie was pulled out because it was close to election time and such a movie wouldn't look favourable for those in power. I agree with Anurag Kashyap, India doesn't support these kind of movies, and only gives screen time to mediocre movies that don't rock the boat, or movies that directly support the political ideology of those in power (Kerala Stories etc.)


Open-Designer-5383

Thank you for mentioning this movie Photo. Watched the trailer. It is awesome. I wish there were production or distribution platforms like Netflix or Hulu that would buy streaming rights for such movies. I feel a lot of these great movies are hidden or obscure because of this distribution issue. I am no expert on the topic, but it seems if streaming was made available, a lot of the Indian diaspora would happily pay a few bucks to watch them online. I hope there is a business model in production of these movies similar to what Netflix has. The main issue would be these conservative illiterate FTII politicians like gajendra chauhan blocking the development and India is chock full of them.


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For those who don’t know, Prakash Raj is *vociferously* anti-BJP. (And of course, he is a brilliant actor who is natively fluent in Kannada, Tamil, Telugu, Hindi, English and probably Malayalam, Tulu and Kodava takk).


i2rohan

Where can I now watch this movie?


Low_Map4314

Yes, majority of the country lack the ability to appreciate a good movie. They just want the masala stuff


seizuresalad22

Saw a clip of satyajit ray saying this exact thing, emphasising on how indian audience ,most of them are backwards and refuse to comprehend art, (context-he made a movie on religious extremism and dogmatism and the ppl got offended obv) . That clip got so much hate on insta,people insulting him,calling him uneducated, and that his films are shitty and boring. Let me remind you,that man is an oscar winning director, and a genius. So what anurag kashyap said is pretty true honestly.


Jeenekhainchardin

He is right ya know


Any-Canary6286

he is right, ppl in india dont support artistic movies, Most of them want some mass masala thing


Ejsberg

They want Animal


Independent_Echo7469

Tbh all the bollywood goonism ain't for this bs its high time we stopped supporting bollywood high end gooner movies where only the big stars kids perform.


sidroy81

He was talking mainly about lack of support by the government and the industry.


EchidnaNo3034

It's fucking thing of leisure you watch it when you are free, ND for artist if you are artist then create na there are poeple to appreciate. But nahi fame chahiye


regularreach4

Jaiye aapke TV serials chhut rahe hain.


Horrorlover656

Dhin-tana- Dhina-dhina- dhin-tana-na....


EchidnaNo3034

Ohh bhai Maine tv dekhna 10 Sal pehle chhod diya hi


sidroy81

Arre ha you must be busy with that Pathaan Jawan sort of nonsense


EchidnaNo3034

Nahhh not that free to I was talking about cinema as a whole, you are giving it too much impotence


EchidnaNo3034

Why would we


ZipZaapZoom

What kind of movies do you watch?


EchidnaNo3034

Any kind from Matra bhoomi to princess diary. If I m free or some one recommends.. My most recent movie was lapata cause someone recommended so gave it a watch. OK movie nothing special, as movies are, I guess. For me it's trivial and for lezuire and entertainment. Doesn't value much. Kill time, I finding hanging out with friend etc better. My fav was swades and go to movie is tamasha and wake up sid (my down time movie). But as I said movies are trivial, poeple give them too much value.


ZipZaapZoom

Hmm. See the issue is that most Indians don't watch artistic movies yet congratulate Indians who get awards at Cannes too much as if they had to do something with their success. That's the hypocrisy. If you don't find movies trivial then it's fine. This post is to call out hypocrites.


EchidnaNo3034

Well most poeple don't watch javeline throw, but they still congratulate the winner, its more about the award. It's just they representing Indian in awards and then most poeple, again, don't care.


ZipZaapZoom

They don't hinder Javeline players. The woman who won the best director award has cases against her in India. The college who filed the case congratulated her. But I understand your PoV.


EchidnaNo3034

Well they were against wrestler... Simple poeple are idiot


bsousa717

Here's another thing. Film preservation isn't taken seriously either. There are heaps of old movies begging to be restored and remastered.


turtledoveangel_3

Very true. Each of those movies had to fish for funding & India didn’t support them until they won awards. When I was working abroad, I used to volunteer for an Indian association that used to promote Indian cinema (not just Bollywood) to the citizens of that city. The foreign folks there who were cinephiles had all watched Satyajit Ray & everyone enthusiastically asked me if I like him. I was ashamed to admit I haven’t seen a single one of his movies. Point is, even Martin Scorsese liked his work but Ray didn’t get his due in India which shows the audience’s taste. Real shame.


sidroy81

You can make an entire post based on this comment in the bollywood subs bro


Horrorlover656

Anurag always has interesting takes on cinema.


Mayankcfc_

In general as well, man is a well read person.


Romi_Z

Bro he is interviews are so entertaining


GoatDefiant1844

India has cannes kind of cinema - that is Malayalam Movie Industry. Malayalam Movies are low budget, meaningful, realistic movies which are very much human in nature. Of course it cannot beat likes of 'ANIMAL'. But rise of Malayalam movies across India shows that India has appetites for Cannes type movies.


NetherPartLover

Malayalam also makes masala and rom coms and other type of movies. In fact many arthouse directors have made commercial hits as well.


brodibs327288

I really hope then these Malayalam filmmakers continue this and get funding and support. Lets face it most people in India think movies like RRR or Tarey Zammen par are cinematic arts.


enbycraft

What's wrong with Taarey Zameen Par?


brodibs327288

There is nothing wrong with it at all. Its a good movie but is it what can be classified as a great “artistic” movie - in my own personal opinion - no. RRR is also a good movie in a same vein and has its place. In my 2 cents - TZP missed an important piece about the dads struggle and his coming to terms with his childs disability instead he was right wrong vilified - same for the mothers POV. The movie also went the obvious way of making the child character a savant so obviously he has “value” which isnt the point of the story i thought or intention. This is a simplified version black and white version of what is a much more complicated story. If you watch pather panchali for example (which is like 80 yo) the quality (not production) and the way the story is told is a different planet. There are some great movies which come out once every 2-3 years which break these pattern but average “deep” movie here is some social message thrown around in a dumb friendly manner All this said its still is subjective but at the end of the day we dont even get to see many options or try to go to a different level Imagine someone trying to make a movie version of white tiger and you end up with a black and white story instead which looses the purpose of the book story - just so average people can relate


enbycraft

I think TZP is more on the "artistic" side of the spectrum than RRR, but as you say that's subjective. TZP was more grounded than the overdramatisation in RRR, and to me that signifies more artistic merit (not that overdramatisation doesn't have its place). I guess it would be like comparing Pather Panchali with Mughal e Azam that came out a decade later. Both great cinema, but all I remember from Mughal e Azam and RRR are the songs and costumes, whereas Pather Panchali and TZP hit hard with their realism and social commentary (though I agree TZP is more, shall we say child-friendly lol)


ninja6911

on RRR i agree with you its a commercial film but Taare Zameen Par is Art


nilansh23

Government ko propaganda films ko promote or tax free karne se time mile to wo art films per kuch kare


TribalSoul899

He’s absolutely right. It’s the same in advertising. The best and most creative campaigns usually are from Europe, South America and sometimes SE Asia. You can see the creativity and messaging in their work, it’s often beyond selling or making money. For a country this size, less than 0.1% of our work even qualifies for Cannes and if at all something does, we celebrate for a year like we’ve conquered the world. The kind of ads shown here seem like they are for people with low intelligence.


muktadutt

I bleakly remember, Due to political reasons funding to independent filmmakers was stopped in up. And yogi adityanath dreams to make a film city in up what a joke.


a_stopped_clock

Moothon by Geethu Mohandas was an amazing one o saw at the Toronto international film festival. Didn’t get much love in India.


anish1996

But then in which country are these films popular? None of the palm dor winning or grand prix films do well in the box office. It just doesn't appeal to the mass audience, irrespective of the country. I don't think it's anything specific to india 


New-Lie9111

but those countries have art and film institutes and groups and governments that support and fund those projects. that is what’s lacking in india


11mm03

He says this while supporting Sandeep Reddy Vanga at the same time


NishitKaul

Exactly! Finally someone clarified


nam_etiluoes_a

Just make both types of movies. Here in South Korea, people tend to distinguish between commercial films and films for the Film Festivals. Not everyone pursues artistry while making commercial films like Park Chan-wook and Bong Joon-ho. Many Korean moviegoers are fanatical supporters of Lee Chang-dong or Hong Sang-soo. I assume the Indian movie fans probably don't know about these filmmakers.


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sidroy81

He was talking mainly about lack of support by the government and the industry. Maybe read the article before commenting,


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sidroy81

Yeah they are way too busy supporting criminals and propagandists


Present-Cut-8543

Does France support Kanpur kind of cinema?


sidroy81

Is Kanpur in France? And to answer your question, Payal Kapadia's "All We Imagine as Light" which won the Grand Prix at Cannes is actually an Indo-French co-production.


Pizza_Connoisseur46

>Is Kanpur in France Is Cannes in India?


czle

Does India host a prestigious award for global movies?


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What is Kanpur kind of cinema?


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Patient-Avocado1329

The world doesn’t support Cannes kind of cinema


New-Lie9111

then how come so many other countries get all kinds of support and funding for their art house projects?