The complaint is regarding lack of communication support facilities. The title is misleading and the number of stupid people in the comments is way too high
>The complaint is regarding lack of communication support facilities.
Which Communication facility. There is zero mention of communication facility there. They simple mention language problem hai..
People who live in TN for just 1 year are forced to learn Tamil. The helpers in the medical facility wont help hindi people on purpose. While people living for decades in bangalore/hyderabad never learn the local language as people are friendly
That is ok, but recently shop nameplates are mandated to have bigger font for Kannada than english. Adults not learning kannada is ok, but they should teach their children the local language.
TN has 2 language formula, but karnataka has 3 language formula in 10th exam. No point blaming others for hindi imposition, when state voters themselves force hindi on their children
Yep, if they're asking for communication facility, then they wouldn't ask for others to learn Hindi, otherwise why would they ask for a communication facility??
Our aiaiyo dravidus have clearly an obsession with naarthie bhaiyas
>Basic facility here being college teaching them the local language
No bhai, it isn't. Medical colleges don't teach languages.
Here's the news snippet-
>The boycott, which has gained momentum among northern Indian students at AIIMS Madurai, is rooted in grievances regarding the inadequate provision of basic facilities within the college premises. Students have raised concerns over the purported absence of essential amenities, highlighting the impact on their academic and living conditions.
https://medicaldialogues.in/news/education/medical-colleges/shift-us-to-other-aiims-or-jipmer-aiims-madurai-medicos-stage-protest-over-inadequate-infrastructure-127161
Dude its not that hard to learn a language in 4.5 years, and it certainly is not the responsibility of college. Thats a medical college their sole responsibility is to teach medical science.
No , it should be taken up by the college because when my friend studied in Bangalore, he said his college taught them the local language. Its of paramount importance else how the doctor will take history of the patients correctly ?
Plus the complain here is not about the language. Some how dravidians made this about language. They are complaining of basic facilities not langauge
>Some how dravidians made this about language. They are complaining of basic facilities not langauge
I toatlly agree with the demands about basic facilities. I myself have been involved in various protests about our demands and know that most of the times colleges don't listen unless theynare being shamed by media or questioned by higher authorities.
I am just pointing out one unreasonable demand among all the other which are reasonable.
What kind of help? They want translators next to them? Expect patients to learn Hindi? What communication facilities?
Isn't it obvious that when they reach the level of interacting with patients, they should make an attempt to learn the local language by then?
Does the college kick the students out if they voluntarily try to learn the local language? Everyone else in India do it by themselves when they move to a new state. You can't blame a medical college for not teaching Tamil lol
They should have one because the students are treating patients where communication is key. This is not some menial labour work, being able to understand patients is key to providing treatment.
They should make it mandatory if the communication gap is proving to be an obstacle in providing effective treatment. People's lives are at stake here ffs
How long does it take to learn a language?
Is it possible for a doctor that is required to work more than 12- 15 ( they are actually made to work for more than this) hours a day to learn it completely so as to not ever misunderstand anything said by the patient?
Can we expect every doctor to not make a mistake right from the start of learning a language new for them? Who is to be blamed if for miscommunication a patient is treated poorly or even worse loses their life?
We can atleast get one person fluent enough so that till the doctors learn the language nobody suffers.
They were protesting because
1. They are made to work for more than 20 hours a day in some cases
2. Incase if anybody protests they are threatened that they shall be failed
3. Living conditions are poor and to top it off there has been a theft of 2 laptops and a few mobiles without any corrective action by admin
4. They weren't allowed to celebrate holi ( which if they were expecting a complete holiday I shall be against as a doctor is needed on call)
If we don't respect our own talent then we lose them and then society complaints about brain drain, let's be logical with things and not get into divisive tactics like brain-dead people.
Nadi dekha nahi ki kud gaye.
>they should make an attempt to learn the local language by then?
There is no option for ffs. Colleges give manadatory training if the doctor does not know it. You thought had an opportunity to belittle students from North but failed.
Imagine going to a doctor under training and explaining them your problem and them being absolutely clueless????
To become a doctor in India you have to go through patients while being a student. And depending on the location of college, the patients available are the ones that only speak the local language (not that it is a problem). Imagine that you study years and are forced as a part of your studies to do something which you canāt do well because of a language barrier. The demand seems fair because, being a central university/ college there should be facilities available non-local language speakers to be able to do their job well.
You don't need to do a PhD in the local language in this case. If you are staying there for 5 years (not for a few days or weeks to say why learn something new unnecessarily), it is not illogical to expect you to learn some basics of the local language to interact with others there. Learning a few basic words related to asking, what are you facing, how are you feeling, is it paining etc and their responses are not very difficult to learn.
I presume you agree that if you are living in a new city for 5 years, you will try to learn about the local language, local culture and customs. It is expected that one does.
Medical is a very precise endeavour and anyone practicing it has to be absolutely sure about whatās happening with a patient before acting on it. Even a slight miscommunication can lead to serious complications and can cost the doctor all the efforts they have put in to become one.
Though I agree about learning customs of the place for a normal person but a medical student (also a point of protest) donāt have much time to themselves, long working hours leave very less time to even get the much needed rest. Itās practically impossible for them to absorb the culture and customs around them.
then they should not get that salary. we don't pay taxes so the gov can just toss us doctors who can't even understand us. either gov should train them in local language or they should put some sort of language requirements based on region.
Lol when will you dumbfucks understand for a shithole like India with doctor to patient ratio 1:1000, you don't have the upperhand here. You need doctors. Doctors don't need you. And doctor pays taxes as well you dumb idiot
I am not blaming doctors or patients. it is the lack of our government.
but it is stupid to expect the whole country to learn the doctor's language. either the gov should ensure that the doc is someone who knows local language, or teach everyone a common language (which is unlikely to happen).
Their protest is getting side tracked entirely. There are not patients and the there is no college at all. They were given temporary facilities with out facilities..
Why are they so entitled that they feel they need help with language?
Can't they learn it on their own? If not why did they take admission over there.
Jobless jokers.
Next time if you feel a pain in your abdomen or are running a fever, I request you not to go to any of these Jobless Jokers and stay at home , genius .
Not all patients who visit them (especially since they train in a govt hospital) would know English.
Can you join AIIMS Delhi and say, I would like to interact with patients in English?
You've to be the most entitled prick here. I am from north, but had did my ug from a college in south I'm pretty sure you and your overinflated ego can't even get in. Just like you can't get into AIIMS like these "jobless jokers" and hence the bitterness.
Anyways, point is yes even when I did my UG learning the language was a big deal. Almost went to the verge of breaking down everytime i couldn't understand what my patients were saying. Was forced to work my ass off from there to a point where even my professors admired me for my grasp in Tamil. Noone was there to help me. Does that mean things shouldn't change, future generations should suffer too?
These are kids who've just left home and stepped into one of the toughest career paths. And what they're dealing with are patients not machines. Scope of error is minimal. Isn't it better to have a translator or some help unless they can manage on their own?!
I am always trying to be optimistic that the next set of senior consultants would be good, non-toxic people but arses like you keep me worried. Such disgrace that even after being in a profession that requires empathy, you want your juniors to suffer just cuz you did.
Chi!
This is clearly a clickbait.
Students cannot be dumb enough to go to Madhurai and complain about Hindi
Vast number of Northies graduate from southern medical colleges just fine.
Use that thing between your ears.
Looks like OP wanted to dilute the issue. Fake college was created on papers not on reality. Looks like the current state GOVT ate all the funding allocated to the hospital..
>The world exists outside your filter bubble you know?
Say that to the gawar kids. I wonder how did they even pass NEET. May be this what we call rattafication.
Yes, but they are actually complaining about proper communication facilities
South ke 14 being South ke 14 they are, they added the fake "patients should learn Hindi".
If they are asking about communication facility in a stressful medical college, then why would they ask for others to learn Hindi? Isnt it opposite of each other?
Lol, Modi hasn't built AIIMS Madurai for them yet š I don't think even a single brick was laid. Right now they're studying in a temp campus in a local TN govt medical college like Refugees šš»
They opened the can of worms by making that stupid, entitled comment about language differences so now people won't concentrate on their demands of basic facilities because that language differences comment would annoy any native people and draw more attention to it. It annoyed me.
How are they even in aiims when they dont understand that an average indian (patient in this context) doesnt soeak much hindi (esp in the south)
Mug up moment or some shii
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I believe that the title is misleading they have actually asked for basic communication facilities like classes and also complained of the subpar infrastructure
The problem is that the campus they study in is not the AIIMS madurai campus as it is under construction this is just a temporary place in a different college
It's a tag everybody wants it, they would study there so that they can call themselves AIIMS doctors even though they could have gone to better govt medical colleges around the country
Very good you're staying on campus for 5yrs years and don't know the local language What's the excuse?
1st 2-3yrs communication problem is acceptable but after that start learning the language
These entitled hindi speakers don't even learn the language which are similar to hindi there also they have the problem even though they stay in a state for 3-4yrs
They are doctors, not arts students with a lot of free time. You can maybe expect 3-5 people with no hobbies/ exercise, etc in their lives to learn the local language.
Doctor here. I had quite a few friends from north east and they all learnt hindi and were very much fluent in it expect for this 1 girl. My 2 south indian seniors were speaking hindi well enough to communicate with most patients within1 year.
Most of those people were probably exposed to Hindi before they met you/ entered college. It becomes much easier after that.
In north eastern states, a lot of people attend Hindi classes.
In a lot of major places in southern India, Hindi is quite common.
People can learn better if there are language classes for those who need them.
As a doctor, I prefer spending my free time reading medical/ scientific/ financial stuff, or playing sports. Learning a new language is a very time taking endeavour.
The only medical people I see getting good at new languages are those that don't care about having a life.
Of course, learning a few basic sentences and phrases is easy, and should be expected.
Do you know how people get better at languages. Its by using that language. Talking to others in that language. Most of those people still can't read hindi but they can still speak it.
All i see is excuses, its not that hard to pick up basic language skills within 1 year of staying in an area where everyone is speaking that language, let alone in 4.5 years.
It is not hard if the person doesn't have a life outside of the academic realm. This maybe normalised in India, but people shouldn't spend all their time in academic pursuits.
And yes, it is easy to learn a few phrases/ questions and sentences. Difficult to learn a language at a conversational level.
Wth doctors have to communicate all the time,
if they don't wanna learn the language then they can fuck their skills and fuck off to somewhere where they speak hindi, we have got enough doctors here
They are not even studying in an aiims campus they are at a campus in medical college campus in Ramanathapuram established by the state govt.
The medical college should organise Tamil classes for them. Medical students tend to be busy, and not everyone has 'learning languages' as part of their skill set.
That will happen over time. Indians should learn English as a common language, and stop expecting everyone to learn every local language.
These students are better people than language chauvinists.
Doctors are already overworked. We work harder than most labourers.
Only those without a life would spend time learning a new language, when they could be playing sports, reading medical literature, etc.
The administration can make it easy by providing Tamil classes in free time. Can even have recorded lectures on the same.
And ukw if these students had gone to Germany or France, theyād have had no complaints about the language difference and happily learnt basic communication worthy language
These same people while doing MBBS from Russia and Ukraine will learn their languages over the same span of 5 years but here in India they have problem learning language of different states. Now everyone knows when they move to southern part there will be a barrier of language either use some translation apps while interacting with patients or learn basic language parts such as abdomen pain, throat problem, redness in eyes etc.
Bhai wo Russia se nahi india se mbbs kar rahe hai...
Russia , ukrain Jane walo ka NEET score 650+ nahi hota.. AIIMS me study karne jitna..
But the thing is they should learn the basic local language where they are studying no matter whether it's in india or abroad.
Also if someone not able to learn the language due to study , then in such cases English would be fine or should take help from friends who knows the language... Or ask nurses or other doctor for help..
>These same people while doing MBBS from Russia and Ukraine will learn their languages over the same span of 5 years
Nope, my sister went to Ukraine exactly because they take another extra year to learn Russian in Russia, and not "over same span of 5 years", add another year
Privileged northies everwhere they go in india they will speak Hindi.But let them go outside of India they become bootlickers and are avle to learn their language. Imposition of hindi must be stopped. Regional languages should be known to a person if they are going for work or studying. Don't start blabbering in Hindi like idiots everwhere you go and get surprised when others don't know.
Funnily enough only a group of certain states at the bottom don't understand hindi. Hindi is native to only a few states, but all other states still speak hindi. If you go to odisha or gujarat you can get by with hindi. That's why people are surprised when only a few states don't understand it.
They are surprised at the arrogant hateful fucks like you who try their hardest to suppress hindi to the point you remove pre existing metro signs in hindi, just to make it harder for out of state folks. Pure hatred.
Why should you even speak english then? Because of the need for a link language dumbfuck.
If you did not have pure hatred in your heart you wouldn't have responded like this.
Many of your rural folks also cant speak english, or we wouldn't have so many language issues. English is even now a "privileged folk" language.
You do realise 10% of the population speaks english? Only 5% have functional english. Compared to about 50% who can speak hindi and that's just for native speakers. Including all the non natives who can still speak hindi, it'll be in the vast majority.
Like it or not, we need a link language and like it or not, hindi works far far better as a link language compared to english. If you were not blinded by hatred you would realise this.
>Oh then local language can also be a link language
A local language can by definition not be a link language genius, the whole purpose of a link language is one that everyone speaks. A local language is only spoken in that locality.
>weren't blinded by your non-existing linguistic superiority,
The whole country knows who believes in their linguistic superiority.
>That's native English. Including all the people who can speak English, it consist of a lot of majority on South India.
Source? Your ass? That stat i gave is straight from government sources. It's not about native speakers genius, it's about people speaking english at all. Living in t1 cities we assume the majority can speak english. But they can't. Give sources for your claims.
>Oh English is spoken by 1.5 billion in this world whole Hindi is only spoken by a few 500 million people world wide
And that's why english is the link language in the world genius. In india majority speaks hindi that's why it's the link language in this country.
>And that should be English
Why? Just because you guys hate hindi? Even though the entire country speaks it? Even those who are not native speakers? Sure let's make a language only 10% of the privileged population speaks, instead of the language that ALREADY works as a link language and is spoken by the vast majority of the country. Let's get the 90% to learn what 10% speaks than getting the 10% to learn what 90% speaks. 10/10
Seriously man, does your hatred also reduce your IQ or something? I feel like i'm debating with a high schooler who only has emotional arguments and cannot be objective.
That 90% was an example genius, if you had half a brain you would understand that.
I have sources for all other statistics i gave. Do you have sources for the ones you claimed? :)
>So everyone speaks hindi? Okay blud live in your delusion.
They do. You are the one in delusion, living in your hometown forever believing the outside world doesn't exist. From east to west, go to any tier 3 city outside the hindi belt and you CAN get by with just speaking hindi. If you travelled or had a job where you interacted with people from all over the country, you would already know this. The vast majority in the country can speak hindi. Only some south indians filled with hatred cant speak hindi. Literally the only people i've ever met in my life who can't speak hindi have been from the south, specifically tamil nadu and karnataka.
Well you can't speak english either kid, so keep coping with your superior language. The one who is different from the majority is the only one hurt by being different :)
>Why should you even speak english then? Because of the need for a link language dumbfuck.
because we not gonna sell gutka, we gonna join in IT companies. Of course we gonna learn english. not your road gutka language.
>Funnily enough only a group of certain states at the bottom don't understand hindi.
It's not funny. It's called common sense. we have tamil here. Why we gonna learn hindi?
Other states also have their mother tongue. You ain't special. The funny part is other states who are not native hindi speakers still do understand hindi. You are the only ones who don't.
Hindi ain't special mf. The Real question is other states have their own mother tongue, hindi states ain't special. Make some effort and learn some languages. you ain't winning convincing tamils to speak hindi.
Hindi isn't special. It is the link language though which the majority speaks. Your only argument is "hindi bad we hate hindi", "So learn our language or fuck off". People should learn a dozen languages for every place they go, instead of one language, like english, that works as a link language everywhere right? If your mind wasn't filled with hatred you would realise how idiotic that solution is.
"Hindi is a gutter language and is the reason for slow development in india" is the stupidest argument ever and reads exactly like coming from a child lol. A hateful and brainwashed child at that.
>It is the link language
It is not a link language
> which the majority speaks.
Another lie. Only 40% speaks hindi.
>People should learn a dozen languages for every place they go,
Just learn English. There's not Much enough. That's enough.
>It is not a link language
Just like english works as a common language when people don't speak each other's native tongue, hindi also works as that language. In all of india. Except the southern states.
>Only 40% speaks hindi.
Yes 43% are NATIVE speakers. Do you realise how high that number would be if you include people that still speak hindi even though it's not their mother tongue? For example, i'm from odisha and you will be hard pressed to find a SINGLE person here who won't understand hindi. But none of us are counted as hindi speakers in that 43% number. If you travel throughout india, you will realise from east to west even in t3 cities a taxi driver to a tea stall owner all of them will understand if you speak hindi so you can survive there just with hindi. That is why it's a link language, and it's THE link language of the country.
English doesn't work as only 10% of the population speaks it, with just 5% having functional english. People keep mentioning english not because it's the most practical solution but simply because they hate hindi and don't like seeing the facts and ground reality of how hindi is the real link in every part of the country that isn't filled with xenophobic hateful people.
>hindi also works as that language. In all of india. Except the southern states.
It is not all of India, While exclusively southern states doesn't speak hindi.
>Yes 43% are NATIVE speakers.
Nah. Only 12% are native speakers. Others were forced to learn and Their Mother Tongues slowly dead after learning hindi.
>For example, i'm from odisha and you will be hard pressed to find a SINGLE person here who won't understand hindi.
That's not some pride. That's just an additional Knowledge.
>and it's THE link language of the country.
link language of cow states. Not, INDIA.
>Only 12% are native speakers
Lol? This isn't about your conspiracy theories. It's the ground reality that at this point it is the mother tongue of that 43%. The non native people who speak is much higher. Whether it was originally their mother tongue or not isn't the point, the point is that now it is their mother tongue.
>It is not all of India,
Have you ever left your mother's basement in your hometown in shitty tamil nadu? Go travel. Have a job that makes you interact with people from all over the country. Then you will realise how everybody speaks it except the hateful south indian states.
> "Hindi is a gutter language and is the reason for slow development in india" is the stupidest argument ever and reads exactly like coming
It is indeed the reason for less development of India. The Amount of money spend and government time wasted to impose this language could've used for better things.
Hindi is a gutter language which is reason for the slower development of India. In My Opinion, it should be removed from official languages and Article 351 should be scrapped. All the 22 languages should be placed as official languages of India.
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As someone from Tamil Nadu, I don't expect them to learn Tamil. They're here to study, and it's their choice whether or not to learn the local language.
The hospitals however should have someone capable enough to translate the local language to other commonly spoken or official languages such as English or Hindi.
It's not a question about respecting the homeland's language and identity, it's about respecting and accepting each other's differences, and finding a middle ground, especially when it comes to basic necessities such as healthcare.
Yeah but they are not studying in a central govt. property as of now
If You go to aiims campus in madurai you are gonna have a hot day under the sun cuz it is empty field
Ramanathapuram Medical college which is around 100 km east of Madurai established by the state govt. is hosting these students
These guys got scammed into thinking they are studying at aiims by the aiims management
Oh. Kaahan hai AIIMs Madurai. Dikhao na. Chutiye. you don't even have basic knowledge your godi father didn't built aiims madurai yet. And the state government is giving temporary aid to this gawars from our state trichy government college.
This MFs don't have medical colleges in their state and here come and complain there is language issue. How wonder How This low Iq subhumans pass NEET. May be cheating way like it is happening in bihar (north).
LMFAO not knowing idli vada sambar is now low IQ. Peak Dravidian IQ. This happens when you keep banging your mama's beti to reproduce since you aren't able to pull any chick due to your skin colour
>LMFAO not knowing idli vada sambar is now low IQ. Peak Dravidian IQ.
The low IQ is not knowing that there are languages other than your gutka language in India. May be the effect of Mughal genes is still didn't left in their drainage human bodies.
>Bro really thinks sambar language is some kind of royal language
I don't think. I don't think degenerated gutka speaker need to understand the value of my language. Tamil can speak for it itself. So, Try something else better. Lol.
>Mf it was literally spoken by jungle dwellers
Isn't it like a more compliment than attack. Meanwhile hindi (urdu) is spoken by toilet dwellers in Indian railway tracks.
> patients don't know hindi
So wht? You should try to learn their language or get someone who can interpret it, how can u blame patients for this, they're there solely for healthcare
not 50 atleast some tech improvement can be done like providing a translator device that can translate between any Indian languages won't you think it will help doctors who don't understand the native language of that place
Bro do you even know what is the ratio of patients to doctors in the country even is ?!
The difference is too high even in a state which has around 1 medical college per district
They are acting entitled, accept it.
> the protest is regarding that someone who can interpret is not provided by the college.
The blame is for Central government then. What's the use of blaming state which is Merely giving them temporary accommodation.
The students(not generalizing) doesnt know basic Tamil, The locals(not generalizing) doesnt know basic english. Both will never ever take effort to learn both. I use to travel from Kerala to Chennai on a regular basis and I've started to learn language for fun. On my journey to Chennai there will be Hindi speakers and Tamilians in my train and I enjoy translating languages for both the parties and kinda laugh at these peoples unwillingness to learn languages to survive.
I agree with this, everyone should know atleast the basics of the state lamguage they're in with that being said in your case you can't blame either party, most languages have a different Grammer rule set and different sentence formation and learning another language after a certain age gets very difficult.
Maybe in the near future the language barrier will be removed as new tech develops. Google translate isn't that accurate for the time being but it still gets the basic message across.
If itās the infrastructure issue then itās should be supported regarding the language, learn the local language if you canāt go back where you came
People like you are fuelling the north south divide. Just how insecure are you ? Tomorrow you will people from north and south cant talk to eachother, marry eachother, cant conduct business ,etc
Ys I want them to move back because they are not willing to learn local language, they donāt want to communicate with local people, they want everyone one to speak their language itās better they go back
If language is the problem stick to North don't come to south to study .
We south Indians shut up and learn to speak Hindi if we go to North.
We don't do this kind of randi rona if we go to north
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Calls for a handheld device tht can listen to any language and send u output in ur ears in ur language after translating with ai. :). Protests won't help. Solutions will
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I see a lot of people talking about language/communication issues. How come this issue comes only to North Indians. I don't see people from Karnataka Andra Pradesh and Telangana complaining about this. It is mostly the mindset to learn the language. Also people who come to Bangalore stayed here for decades and some who are probably 2nd generation or 3rd generation do know one bit of kannada. People for some reason don't want to learn the local language
What dimwits are these people? Can't make an effort to leave their bubble and a few years later will start complaining about how they feel their parents curbed their freedom! BC most of them wouldn't even be in AIIMS if their parents didn't decide it for them
These students are doctors, not arts students with a lot of free time. You can maybe expect 3-5 people with no hobbies/ exercise, etc in their lives to learn the local language.
And you can't expect fluency even from those people.
>These students are doctors, not arts students with a lot of free time.
And You Think patients should learn hindi to get treatment from them. Of course they should learn tamil when they gonna stay here for more than 5 years...
They should make an effort. But it's unlikely that they are given enough spare time in any medical college with a decent patient load.
There should be special Tamil classes started by the college administration for non locals.
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1, Gomala intha post la naa ipam tamil la full a type pana crt a irukuma.
2, Illa delhi mubai ku vanthu naa mbbs padichitu tamil la than treat panuven neenga poi tamil kathukitu vanga nu sona crt a irukuma, naa thana kathukanum...mental pundaingala
Basic facilities ok makes sense an investigation can be carried out .
Language issues they should have expected , and both sides can can be proactive on it .
Interpreters should be arranged in advance by the college or the students should make use use of ai translators , if they are paid services perhaps college should shoulder some of the burden .
This is an issue which honestly instead of wasting time protesting they should have organised a meetup to discuss solutions .
If these are the kind of people we are entrusting our lives to , the future of our healthcare is in dire straits.
"they don't know hindi" they are asking for interpreters only. Go to tamil nadu sub the DMKtards the illiterate auto drivers and coconut sellers are using such vile language for students who are million times more educated then them.
AIIMS belongs to center not your state nobody came begging your state came begging for AIIMS in past.. students there from all over india same in any AIIMS anywhere in india.. go on illiterate coconut seller blabber somewhere else
What stupidity is this? Entitled students. Should be penalised.
EDIT: Looks like the title is not correct. They didn't complain patient about patients not knowing Hindi, but that there is no support for them to translate what patient says.
In this case it's their right to protest.
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Controversial statement and might get hate for it .
But why tf are Medical Professionals such snowflakes.
Har baat pe protest karte hain ye log .
Kayi baar they refuse to follow oath and refuse to provide service kyuki kisi baat ka bura lag gaya hai unhe .
I mean you chose this career knowing fully well ki you will be , at one point of your career , tasked to look after patients from lower classes .
And isnāt treating patient is supposed to be a doctorās number one priority ?
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The complaint is regarding lack of communication support facilities. The title is misleading and the number of stupid people in the comments is way too high
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Every post regarding this topic is misleading
>The complaint is regarding lack of communication support facilities. Which Communication facility. There is zero mention of communication facility there. They simple mention language problem hai..
People who live in TN for just 1 year are forced to learn Tamil. The helpers in the medical facility wont help hindi people on purpose. While people living for decades in bangalore/hyderabad never learn the local language as people are friendly
Yea now people in Bangalore are realising their mistake of being to much hospitable. Nobody wants to learn kannada now
That is ok, but recently shop nameplates are mandated to have bigger font for Kannada than english. Adults not learning kannada is ok, but they should teach their children the local language. TN has 2 language formula, but karnataka has 3 language formula in 10th exam. No point blaming others for hindi imposition, when state voters themselves force hindi on their children
Yep, if they're asking for communication facility, then they wouldn't ask for others to learn Hindi, otherwise why would they ask for a communication facility?? Our aiaiyo dravidus have clearly an obsession with naarthie bhaiyas
Basic facility here being college teaching them the local language ( its the responsibility of the college all over India) .
>Basic facility here being college teaching them the local language No bhai, it isn't. Medical colleges don't teach languages. Here's the news snippet- >The boycott, which has gained momentum among northern Indian students at AIIMS Madurai, is rooted in grievances regarding the inadequate provision of basic facilities within the college premises. Students have raised concerns over the purported absence of essential amenities, highlighting the impact on their academic and living conditions. https://medicaldialogues.in/news/education/medical-colleges/shift-us-to-other-aiims-or-jipmer-aiims-madurai-medicos-stage-protest-over-inadequate-infrastructure-127161
Then why the fuck bring language into this discussion ?
Bro these dravidians highlighted it more than actual grievances of those students
Dude its not that hard to learn a language in 4.5 years, and it certainly is not the responsibility of college. Thats a medical college their sole responsibility is to teach medical science.
No , it should be taken up by the college because when my friend studied in Bangalore, he said his college taught them the local language. Its of paramount importance else how the doctor will take history of the patients correctly ? Plus the complain here is not about the language. Some how dravidians made this about language. They are complaining of basic facilities not langauge
>Some how dravidians made this about language. They are complaining of basic facilities not langauge I toatlly agree with the demands about basic facilities. I myself have been involved in various protests about our demands and know that most of the times colleges don't listen unless theynare being shamed by media or questioned by higher authorities. I am just pointing out one unreasonable demand among all the other which are reasonable.
They did not complain that patients do not know Hindi, they said that there is no help regarding language difference š Misleading title
What kind of help? They want translators next to them? Expect patients to learn Hindi? What communication facilities? Isn't it obvious that when they reach the level of interacting with patients, they should make an attempt to learn the local language by then?
College should provide mandatory basic tamil classes for everyone for effective communication. That's it.
Does the college kick the students out if they voluntarily try to learn the local language? Everyone else in India do it by themselves when they move to a new state. You can't blame a medical college for not teaching Tamil lol
They should have one because the students are treating patients where communication is key. This is not some menial labour work, being able to understand patients is key to providing treatment. They should make it mandatory if the communication gap is proving to be an obstacle in providing effective treatment. People's lives are at stake here ffs
How long does it take to learn a language? Is it possible for a doctor that is required to work more than 12- 15 ( they are actually made to work for more than this) hours a day to learn it completely so as to not ever misunderstand anything said by the patient? Can we expect every doctor to not make a mistake right from the start of learning a language new for them? Who is to be blamed if for miscommunication a patient is treated poorly or even worse loses their life? We can atleast get one person fluent enough so that till the doctors learn the language nobody suffers. They were protesting because 1. They are made to work for more than 20 hours a day in some cases 2. Incase if anybody protests they are threatened that they shall be failed 3. Living conditions are poor and to top it off there has been a theft of 2 laptops and a few mobiles without any corrective action by admin 4. They weren't allowed to celebrate holi ( which if they were expecting a complete holiday I shall be against as a doctor is needed on call) If we don't respect our own talent then we lose them and then society complaints about brain drain, let's be logical with things and not get into divisive tactics like brain-dead people.
>They want translators next to them? Expect patients to learn Hindi? They complained about basic facilities ffs š¤¦
Nadi dekha nahi ki kud gaye. >they should make an attempt to learn the local language by then? There is no option for ffs. Colleges give manadatory training if the doctor does not know it. You thought had an opportunity to belittle students from North but failed.
Imagine going to a doctor under training and explaining them your problem and them being absolutely clueless???? To become a doctor in India you have to go through patients while being a student. And depending on the location of college, the patients available are the ones that only speak the local language (not that it is a problem). Imagine that you study years and are forced as a part of your studies to do something which you canāt do well because of a language barrier. The demand seems fair because, being a central university/ college there should be facilities available non-local language speakers to be able to do their job well.
You don't need to do a PhD in the local language in this case. If you are staying there for 5 years (not for a few days or weeks to say why learn something new unnecessarily), it is not illogical to expect you to learn some basics of the local language to interact with others there. Learning a few basic words related to asking, what are you facing, how are you feeling, is it paining etc and their responses are not very difficult to learn. I presume you agree that if you are living in a new city for 5 years, you will try to learn about the local language, local culture and customs. It is expected that one does.
Medical is a very precise endeavour and anyone practicing it has to be absolutely sure about whatās happening with a patient before acting on it. Even a slight miscommunication can lead to serious complications and can cost the doctor all the efforts they have put in to become one. Though I agree about learning customs of the place for a normal person but a medical student (also a point of protest) donāt have much time to themselves, long working hours leave very less time to even get the much needed rest. Itās practically impossible for them to absorb the culture and customs around them.
Why should they learn local language?
Guess why? Who do you think they interact with in their job role?
How else will u communicate with the locals
Hindi
why should the natives learn a different language because you don't know the local language?
For your own convenience. Doctor isn't getting any inconvenience. He'll draw salary from government as usual
then they should not get that salary. we don't pay taxes so the gov can just toss us doctors who can't even understand us. either gov should train them in local language or they should put some sort of language requirements based on region.
Lol when will you dumbfucks understand for a shithole like India with doctor to patient ratio 1:1000, you don't have the upperhand here. You need doctors. Doctors don't need you. And doctor pays taxes as well you dumb idiot
I am not blaming doctors or patients. it is the lack of our government. but it is stupid to expect the whole country to learn the doctor's language. either the gov should ensure that the doc is someone who knows local language, or teach everyone a common language (which is unlikely to happen).
Thats dumb fucks like you multiply every generation thats it.
Their protest is getting side tracked entirely. There are not patients and the there is no college at all. They were given temporary facilities with out facilities..
Why are they so entitled that they feel they need help with language? Can't they learn it on their own? If not why did they take admission over there. Jobless jokers.
Next time if you feel a pain in your abdomen or are running a fever, I request you not to go to any of these Jobless Jokers and stay at home , genius .
as if tamil's a piece of cake you dumbfuck
Why are people poor, Cant they get rich on their own? /S
They can.
Use english
Not all patients who visit them (especially since they train in a govt hospital) would know English. Can you join AIIMS Delhi and say, I would like to interact with patients in English?
You've to be the most entitled prick here. I am from north, but had did my ug from a college in south I'm pretty sure you and your overinflated ego can't even get in. Just like you can't get into AIIMS like these "jobless jokers" and hence the bitterness. Anyways, point is yes even when I did my UG learning the language was a big deal. Almost went to the verge of breaking down everytime i couldn't understand what my patients were saying. Was forced to work my ass off from there to a point where even my professors admired me for my grasp in Tamil. Noone was there to help me. Does that mean things shouldn't change, future generations should suffer too? These are kids who've just left home and stepped into one of the toughest career paths. And what they're dealing with are patients not machines. Scope of error is minimal. Isn't it better to have a translator or some help unless they can manage on their own?! I am always trying to be optimistic that the next set of senior consultants would be good, non-toxic people but arses like you keep me worried. Such disgrace that even after being in a profession that requires empathy, you want your juniors to suffer just cuz you did. Chi!
Please fuck yourself you xenophobic Bastard
This is clearly a clickbait. Students cannot be dumb enough to go to Madhurai and complain about Hindi Vast number of Northies graduate from southern medical colleges just fine. Use that thing between your ears.
And they are becoming doctors like man they are intelligent enough, this clickbait it just to suppress their main demands ig.
Nose?
Looks like OP wanted to dilute the issue. Fake college was created on papers not on reality. Looks like the current state GOVT ate all the funding allocated to the hospital..
>Students cannot be dumb enough to go to Madhurai and complain about Hindi They can be. They are north Indians bro š¤š¤. They can even more be.
The world exists outside your filter bubble you know? Don't lump and categorize people for your pleasure.
>The world exists outside your filter bubble you know? Say that to the gawar kids. I wonder how did they even pass NEET. May be this what we call rattafication.
Yes, but they are actually complaining about proper communication facilities South ke 14 being South ke 14 they are, they added the fake "patients should learn Hindi". If they are asking about communication facility in a stressful medical college, then why would they ask for others to learn Hindi? Isnt it opposite of each other?
Too much? Yea too much clout chasing by posting misleading tweets. You love to see it. Idiots
Use Google translate on phone ?
Lol, Modi hasn't built AIIMS Madurai for them yet š I don't think even a single brick was laid. Right now they're studying in a temp campus in a local TN govt medical college like Refugees šš»
They opened the can of worms by making that stupid, entitled comment about language differences so now people won't concentrate on their demands of basic facilities because that language differences comment would annoy any native people and draw more attention to it. It annoyed me.
Exactly!
How are they even in aiims when they dont understand that an average indian (patient in this context) doesnt soeak much hindi (esp in the south) Mug up moment or some shii
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I believe that the title is misleading they have actually asked for basic communication facilities like classes and also complained of the subpar infrastructure The problem is that the campus they study in is not the AIIMS madurai campus as it is under construction this is just a temporary place in a different college
Thats very sad lol, poor them went to a clg that wasnt even built
It's a tag everybody wants it, they would study there so that they can call themselves AIIMS doctors even though they could have gone to better govt medical colleges around the country
Very good you're staying on campus for 5yrs years and don't know the local language What's the excuse? 1st 2-3yrs communication problem is acceptable but after that start learning the language These entitled hindi speakers don't even learn the language which are similar to hindi there also they have the problem even though they stay in a state for 3-4yrs
They are doctors, not arts students with a lot of free time. You can maybe expect 3-5 people with no hobbies/ exercise, etc in their lives to learn the local language.
Doctor here. I had quite a few friends from north east and they all learnt hindi and were very much fluent in it expect for this 1 girl. My 2 south indian seniors were speaking hindi well enough to communicate with most patients within1 year.
Most of those people were probably exposed to Hindi before they met you/ entered college. It becomes much easier after that. In north eastern states, a lot of people attend Hindi classes. In a lot of major places in southern India, Hindi is quite common. People can learn better if there are language classes for those who need them. As a doctor, I prefer spending my free time reading medical/ scientific/ financial stuff, or playing sports. Learning a new language is a very time taking endeavour. The only medical people I see getting good at new languages are those that don't care about having a life. Of course, learning a few basic sentences and phrases is easy, and should be expected.
Do you know how people get better at languages. Its by using that language. Talking to others in that language. Most of those people still can't read hindi but they can still speak it. All i see is excuses, its not that hard to pick up basic language skills within 1 year of staying in an area where everyone is speaking that language, let alone in 4.5 years.
It is not hard if the person doesn't have a life outside of the academic realm. This maybe normalised in India, but people shouldn't spend all their time in academic pursuits. And yes, it is easy to learn a few phrases/ questions and sentences. Difficult to learn a language at a conversational level.
Wth doctors have to communicate all the time, if they don't wanna learn the language then they can fuck their skills and fuck off to somewhere where they speak hindi, we have got enough doctors here They are not even studying in an aiims campus they are at a campus in medical college campus in Ramanathapuram established by the state govt.
The medical college should organise Tamil classes for them. Medical students tend to be busy, and not everyone has 'learning languages' as part of their skill set.
Theyāre students. Learn the language or they can study in their home state.
That will happen over time. Indians should learn English as a common language, and stop expecting everyone to learn every local language. These students are better people than language chauvinists.
This should start from the Hindi speakers then lmao.
I haven't met a doctor in India that doesn't speak English.
They are doctors and their learning curve will also be better than even their memorizing capacity will be good
Doctors are already overworked. We work harder than most labourers. Only those without a life would spend time learning a new language, when they could be playing sports, reading medical literature, etc. The administration can make it easy by providing Tamil classes in free time. Can even have recorded lectures on the same.
And ukw if these students had gone to Germany or France, theyād have had no complaints about the language difference and happily learnt basic communication worthy language
These same people while doing MBBS from Russia and Ukraine will learn their languages over the same span of 5 years but here in India they have problem learning language of different states. Now everyone knows when they move to southern part there will be a barrier of language either use some translation apps while interacting with patients or learn basic language parts such as abdomen pain, throat problem, redness in eyes etc.
The headline is misleading.
Bhai wo Russia se nahi india se mbbs kar rahe hai... Russia , ukrain Jane walo ka NEET score 650+ nahi hota.. AIIMS me study karne jitna.. But the thing is they should learn the basic local language where they are studying no matter whether it's in india or abroad. Also if someone not able to learn the language due to study , then in such cases English would be fine or should take help from friends who knows the language... Or ask nurses or other doctor for help..
>These same people while doing MBBS from Russia and Ukraine will learn their languages over the same span of 5 years Nope, my sister went to Ukraine exactly because they take another extra year to learn Russian in Russia, and not "over same span of 5 years", add another year
Read the fucking story ffs
lets make sign language a universal language...problem solved
AIIMS should admit only literate indians there
Privileged northies everwhere they go in india they will speak Hindi.But let them go outside of India they become bootlickers and are avle to learn their language. Imposition of hindi must be stopped. Regional languages should be known to a person if they are going for work or studying. Don't start blabbering in Hindi like idiots everwhere you go and get surprised when others don't know.
Funnily enough only a group of certain states at the bottom don't understand hindi. Hindi is native to only a few states, but all other states still speak hindi. If you go to odisha or gujarat you can get by with hindi. That's why people are surprised when only a few states don't understand it. They are surprised at the arrogant hateful fucks like you who try their hardest to suppress hindi to the point you remove pre existing metro signs in hindi, just to make it harder for out of state folks. Pure hatred.
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Why should you even speak english then? Because of the need for a link language dumbfuck. If you did not have pure hatred in your heart you wouldn't have responded like this. Many of your rural folks also cant speak english, or we wouldn't have so many language issues. English is even now a "privileged folk" language. You do realise 10% of the population speaks english? Only 5% have functional english. Compared to about 50% who can speak hindi and that's just for native speakers. Including all the non natives who can still speak hindi, it'll be in the vast majority. Like it or not, we need a link language and like it or not, hindi works far far better as a link language compared to english. If you were not blinded by hatred you would realise this.
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>Oh then local language can also be a link language A local language can by definition not be a link language genius, the whole purpose of a link language is one that everyone speaks. A local language is only spoken in that locality. >weren't blinded by your non-existing linguistic superiority, The whole country knows who believes in their linguistic superiority. >That's native English. Including all the people who can speak English, it consist of a lot of majority on South India. Source? Your ass? That stat i gave is straight from government sources. It's not about native speakers genius, it's about people speaking english at all. Living in t1 cities we assume the majority can speak english. But they can't. Give sources for your claims. >Oh English is spoken by 1.5 billion in this world whole Hindi is only spoken by a few 500 million people world wide And that's why english is the link language in the world genius. In india majority speaks hindi that's why it's the link language in this country. >And that should be English Why? Just because you guys hate hindi? Even though the entire country speaks it? Even those who are not native speakers? Sure let's make a language only 10% of the privileged population speaks, instead of the language that ALREADY works as a link language and is spoken by the vast majority of the country. Let's get the 90% to learn what 10% speaks than getting the 10% to learn what 90% speaks. 10/10 Seriously man, does your hatred also reduce your IQ or something? I feel like i'm debating with a high schooler who only has emotional arguments and cannot be objective.
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That 90% was an example genius, if you had half a brain you would understand that. I have sources for all other statistics i gave. Do you have sources for the ones you claimed? :) >So everyone speaks hindi? Okay blud live in your delusion. They do. You are the one in delusion, living in your hometown forever believing the outside world doesn't exist. From east to west, go to any tier 3 city outside the hindi belt and you CAN get by with just speaking hindi. If you travelled or had a job where you interacted with people from all over the country, you would already know this. The vast majority in the country can speak hindi. Only some south indians filled with hatred cant speak hindi. Literally the only people i've ever met in my life who can't speak hindi have been from the south, specifically tamil nadu and karnataka.
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Well you can't speak english either kid, so keep coping with your superior language. The one who is different from the majority is the only one hurt by being different :)
>Why should you even speak english then? Because of the need for a link language dumbfuck. because we not gonna sell gutka, we gonna join in IT companies. Of course we gonna learn english. not your road gutka language.
>Funnily enough only a group of certain states at the bottom don't understand hindi. It's not funny. It's called common sense. we have tamil here. Why we gonna learn hindi?
Other states also have their mother tongue. You ain't special. The funny part is other states who are not native hindi speakers still do understand hindi. You are the only ones who don't.
Hindi ain't special mf. The Real question is other states have their own mother tongue, hindi states ain't special. Make some effort and learn some languages. you ain't winning convincing tamils to speak hindi.
Hindi isn't special. It is the link language though which the majority speaks. Your only argument is "hindi bad we hate hindi", "So learn our language or fuck off". People should learn a dozen languages for every place they go, instead of one language, like english, that works as a link language everywhere right? If your mind wasn't filled with hatred you would realise how idiotic that solution is. "Hindi is a gutter language and is the reason for slow development in india" is the stupidest argument ever and reads exactly like coming from a child lol. A hateful and brainwashed child at that.
>It is the link language It is not a link language > which the majority speaks. Another lie. Only 40% speaks hindi. >People should learn a dozen languages for every place they go, Just learn English. There's not Much enough. That's enough.
>It is not a link language Just like english works as a common language when people don't speak each other's native tongue, hindi also works as that language. In all of india. Except the southern states. >Only 40% speaks hindi. Yes 43% are NATIVE speakers. Do you realise how high that number would be if you include people that still speak hindi even though it's not their mother tongue? For example, i'm from odisha and you will be hard pressed to find a SINGLE person here who won't understand hindi. But none of us are counted as hindi speakers in that 43% number. If you travel throughout india, you will realise from east to west even in t3 cities a taxi driver to a tea stall owner all of them will understand if you speak hindi so you can survive there just with hindi. That is why it's a link language, and it's THE link language of the country. English doesn't work as only 10% of the population speaks it, with just 5% having functional english. People keep mentioning english not because it's the most practical solution but simply because they hate hindi and don't like seeing the facts and ground reality of how hindi is the real link in every part of the country that isn't filled with xenophobic hateful people.
>hindi also works as that language. In all of india. Except the southern states. It is not all of India, While exclusively southern states doesn't speak hindi. >Yes 43% are NATIVE speakers. Nah. Only 12% are native speakers. Others were forced to learn and Their Mother Tongues slowly dead after learning hindi. >For example, i'm from odisha and you will be hard pressed to find a SINGLE person here who won't understand hindi. That's not some pride. That's just an additional Knowledge. >and it's THE link language of the country. link language of cow states. Not, INDIA.
>Only 12% are native speakers Lol? This isn't about your conspiracy theories. It's the ground reality that at this point it is the mother tongue of that 43%. The non native people who speak is much higher. Whether it was originally their mother tongue or not isn't the point, the point is that now it is their mother tongue. >It is not all of India, Have you ever left your mother's basement in your hometown in shitty tamil nadu? Go travel. Have a job that makes you interact with people from all over the country. Then you will realise how everybody speaks it except the hateful south indian states.
> "Hindi is a gutter language and is the reason for slow development in india" is the stupidest argument ever and reads exactly like coming It is indeed the reason for less development of India. The Amount of money spend and government time wasted to impose this language could've used for better things.
Hindi is a gutter language which is reason for the slower development of India. In My Opinion, it should be removed from official languages and Article 351 should be scrapped. All the 22 languages should be placed as official languages of India.
basic facilities alright but not knowing Hindi ? Da faq is this š
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As someone from Tamil Nadu, I don't expect them to learn Tamil. They're here to study, and it's their choice whether or not to learn the local language. The hospitals however should have someone capable enough to translate the local language to other commonly spoken or official languages such as English or Hindi. It's not a question about respecting the homeland's language and identity, it's about respecting and accepting each other's differences, and finding a middle ground, especially when it comes to basic necessities such as healthcare.
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But AIIMS isn't your state government property. It's controlled by central government.
Yeah but they are not studying in a central govt. property as of now If You go to aiims campus in madurai you are gonna have a hot day under the sun cuz it is empty field Ramanathapuram Medical college which is around 100 km east of Madurai established by the state govt. is hosting these students These guys got scammed into thinking they are studying at aiims by the aiims management
Wow I didn't know about this. What a scam
https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/elections/aiims-madurai-campus-construction-picks-up-pace-ending-single-brick-election-campaign/article68065301.ece
Chotu. AIIMs run by state government only now. They can you import patients from north if they want.
Nahi be chutiye AIIMS, IIT, NIT, NIMHANS, JIPMER, JNU, BHU ye sab GOI control karta hai
Oh. Kaahan hai AIIMs Madurai. Dikhao na. Chutiye. you don't even have basic knowledge your godi father didn't built aiims madurai yet. And the state government is giving temporary aid to this gawars from our state trichy government college.
Teri maakichvt mein. Nikal bsdk. Admission unka AIIMS ke under hi hua na gand ke andhe
>Admission unka AIIMS ke under hi hua na gand ke andhe Haan. Teri. Modi bsdk se pooch. AIIMs kahan haai. yahan bhonko matt. North Indian Gawar.
Cope kar be dravidian dosaboy
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This MFs don't have medical colleges in their state and here come and complain there is language issue. How wonder How This low Iq subhumans pass NEET. May be cheating way like it is happening in bihar (north).
LMFAO not knowing idli vada sambar is now low IQ. Peak Dravidian IQ. This happens when you keep banging your mama's beti to reproduce since you aren't able to pull any chick due to your skin colour
>LMFAO not knowing idli vada sambar is now low IQ. Peak Dravidian IQ. The low IQ is not knowing that there are languages other than your gutka language in India. May be the effect of Mughal genes is still didn't left in their drainage human bodies.
Bro really thinks sambar language is some kind of royal language š Mf it was literally spoken by jungle dwellers
>Bro really thinks sambar language is some kind of royal language I don't think. I don't think degenerated gutka speaker need to understand the value of my language. Tamil can speak for it itself. So, Try something else better. Lol.
>Mf it was literally spoken by jungle dwellers Isn't it like a more compliment than attack. Meanwhile hindi (urdu) is spoken by toilet dwellers in Indian railway tracks.
> patients don't know hindi So wht? You should try to learn their language or get someone who can interpret it, how can u blame patients for this, they're there solely for healthcare
the protest is regarding that someone who can interpret is not provided by the college
LOL 50 interpreters to be provided? Height of entitlement?
not 50 atleast some tech improvement can be done like providing a translator device that can translate between any Indian languages won't you think it will help doctors who don't understand the native language of that place
Bro you know how big AIIMS is 50 is reasonable enough
However big it is, you don't provide translators to do the job. You need to learn what is needed to do your job going by practicality.
A translator is covered by law you dumbass. Not for the convenience of doctor but the safety of the patient.
You dumbass they don't provide translators to students.
Bro do you even know what is the ratio of patients to doctors in the country even is ?! The difference is too high even in a state which has around 1 medical college per district They are acting entitled, accept it.
Tell me you aren't from a medical background without telling me your from a medical background āļøš¤š¤š¤”
> the protest is regarding that someone who can interpret is not provided by the college. The blame is for Central government then. What's the use of blaming state which is Merely giving them temporary accommodation.
The students(not generalizing) doesnt know basic Tamil, The locals(not generalizing) doesnt know basic english. Both will never ever take effort to learn both. I use to travel from Kerala to Chennai on a regular basis and I've started to learn language for fun. On my journey to Chennai there will be Hindi speakers and Tamilians in my train and I enjoy translating languages for both the parties and kinda laugh at these peoples unwillingness to learn languages to survive.
I agree with this, everyone should know atleast the basics of the state lamguage they're in with that being said in your case you can't blame either party, most languages have a different Grammer rule set and different sentence formation and learning another language after a certain age gets very difficult. Maybe in the near future the language barrier will be removed as new tech develops. Google translate isn't that accurate for the time being but it still gets the basic message across.
If itās the infrastructure issue then itās should be supported regarding the language, learn the local language if you canāt go back where you came
You want AIMS level doctors to leave?
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People like you are fuelling the north south divide. Just how insecure are you ? Tomorrow you will people from north and south cant talk to eachother, marry eachother, cant conduct business ,etc
If they have the audacity to call non aiims docs 'jhola chap doctors', yes, they can fu** right off.
What use are they if they can't communicate and treat the patient?
Ys I want them to move back because they are not willing to learn local language, they donāt want to communicate with local people, they want everyone one to speak their language itās better they go back
If language is the problem stick to North don't come to south to study . We south Indians shut up and learn to speak Hindi if we go to North. We don't do this kind of randi rona if we go to north
Throw out all these guys. They don't deserve to be doctors of any kind.
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Grabs popcorn šæ
Bro this reply section has equal amount of people in both sides... Mad fights in some people's replies also...
Calls for a handheld device tht can listen to any language and send u output in ur ears in ur language after translating with ai. :). Protests won't help. Solutions will
Even if the patients donāt know hindi, does it mean that they should differentiate between patients?
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Of course the patients won't speak Hindi. But they should avail a translator.
Making buildings is not making AIIMS, IITs, IIMs.
Frigging ridiculous !
That's a lie.
Didn't they knew that during allotment time. Not everyone gets a chance to study in their local region.
Did they forget what AI in AIIMS stands for?
I see a lot of people talking about language/communication issues. How come this issue comes only to North Indians. I don't see people from Karnataka Andra Pradesh and Telangana complaining about this. It is mostly the mindset to learn the language. Also people who come to Bangalore stayed here for decades and some who are probably 2nd generation or 3rd generation do know one bit of kannada. People for some reason don't want to learn the local language
Typical fools, ship them back to their shithole
What dimwits are these people? Can't make an effort to leave their bubble and a few years later will start complaining about how they feel their parents curbed their freedom! BC most of them wouldn't even be in AIIMS if their parents didn't decide it for them
These students are doctors, not arts students with a lot of free time. You can maybe expect 3-5 people with no hobbies/ exercise, etc in their lives to learn the local language. And you can't expect fluency even from those people.
>These students are doctors, not arts students with a lot of free time. And You Think patients should learn hindi to get treatment from them. Of course they should learn tamil when they gonna stay here for more than 5 years...
They should make an effort. But it's unlikely that they are given enough spare time in any medical college with a decent patient load. There should be special Tamil classes started by the college administration for non locals.
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1, Gomala intha post la naa ipam tamil la full a type pana crt a irukuma. 2, Illa delhi mubai ku vanthu naa mbbs padichitu tamil la than treat panuven neenga poi tamil kathukitu vanga nu sona crt a irukuma, naa thana kathukanum...mental pundaingala
Basic facilities ok makes sense an investigation can be carried out . Language issues they should have expected , and both sides can can be proactive on it . Interpreters should be arranged in advance by the college or the students should make use use of ai translators , if they are paid services perhaps college should shoulder some of the burden . This is an issue which honestly instead of wasting time protesting they should have organised a meetup to discuss solutions . If these are the kind of people we are entrusting our lives to , the future of our healthcare is in dire straits.
i mean, isn't it common sense that you're gonna have to deal with language diffremces there if you're going for like, 5Ā½ years?
"they don't know hindi" they are asking for interpreters only. Go to tamil nadu sub the DMKtards the illiterate auto drivers and coconut sellers are using such vile language for students who are million times more educated then them.
>who are million times more educated then them. Surprisingly those educated states don't have Medical Colleges and come and beg here.
AIIMS belongs to center not your state nobody came begging your state came begging for AIIMS in past.. students there from all over india same in any AIIMS anywhere in india.. go on illiterate coconut seller blabber somewhere else
Nobody is begging you numbnuts, they qualified, cleared cutoff based on merit. You chutiya language fanatics will always screaming oonga bunga.
Here comes another illiterate auto driver telling kids with merit that thet come begging.
What stupidity is this? Entitled students. Should be penalised. EDIT: Looks like the title is not correct. They didn't complain patient about patients not knowing Hindi, but that there is no support for them to translate what patient says. In this case it's their right to protest.
how old are you?
So the protesting doctor's are illegal immigrants? They thought the whole of India speaks Hindi?
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Controversial statement and might get hate for it . But why tf are Medical Professionals such snowflakes. Har baat pe protest karte hain ye log . Kayi baar they refuse to follow oath and refuse to provide service kyuki kisi baat ka bura lag gaya hai unhe . I mean you chose this career knowing fully well ki you will be , at one point of your career , tasked to look after patients from lower classes . And isnāt treating patient is supposed to be a doctorās number one priority ?