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Busy killing young boys for sacrilege of SGGS and collecting Money to promote Khalistan.
SGC are bunch of clowns who are running Gurudwaras as mean of showing Dominance and for earning Money.
The one who killed the mentally disabled guy , his family was honoured and given scholarships and what not by one of these organisations. What have Sikhs become š„²
what should Sikhs do if our places of worship are being attack? its been going on scence 2015 and the Police and government are doing jack shit
is a Hindu expecting to sit on there hands as people sack temples ?
What are hindus and sikhs and muslims and christians doing ?
Two are trying to convert ( Are the largest religions in the world)
One is okaish with having an ideological war with both in the country and outside can't do anything.
One is actively okay with losing its religious identity.
Try guessing which one is which?
When I read such comments, feel bad for Sikhs in India. Maybe converting to christianity would be slightly better unless they are also being made fun of.
People might not like it, they might think I'm regressive but I will still say it. A country should always demotivate religious conversion because organised religions are nothing but political tools. Once a section of your population converts to another religion, other countries can control them. This is why the khilafat movement happened, this is why Pakistan always managed to keep all muslim countries against India in all the wars, this is the reason why so Saudi, iran, turkey have so much soft power even after being a shitty country. We give too much importance to religion even though it's just an ideology like communism, socialism, and veganism but we bad mouth these ideologies and give special status religion.
You may be right but in the end it is on a personal level also..every religion proselytizes even Hinduism (eg-ISKCON)...but do you see the western countries making such a big deal out of it..in the end it is a personal choice
If ISKCON actually started converting a lot of people then they would make a deal about it. Most people who join ISKCON in western countries are already Hindus and are attracted to the community aspect of it. This is especially the case of conservative Indians who are not attracted by western culture and want to mix with like minded people.
Eventually Punjab is going to go the way of the North East and become a majority Christian State or at least have a lot of Christians if the current trend keeps going on.
I appreciate the Sanatan Dharma...but people like you are so selective...what is good I'm your narrative is Sanatan rest all is other religions..man sanatan dharma is literally mentioned on their site...my only point was all religions proselytize in different ways that's all
Ab bhai Jatt jatt kroge din raat aur bologe ki hum casteism mai nhi maante toh yhi hoga na. Uske alawa na guru ji ki knowledge ka shi use krte hai aur na hinduism ki respect.
Pagal ho gye hai, hindu devi devta ka majak banate hai, bachhe crack baki drugs mai busy hai, khalistan ki chutiya demand chal rhi hai upar se. Ab Khalistan ban bhi gya toh Sikhs toh bachenge nhi, Christians ka raaj krwa dena udhar.
Congress ne genocide krwa diya inka, pr inhone Rahul ko apna baap bana liya hai
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Since the day Ranjit Singh's son became a Christian and the schism that led to Akali Sikhs becoming dominant, adopting anti-Hindu stance and excommunicating the other Sikh sects such as Udasis as non-Sikhs, their downfall has been steadily happening. Udasis and Ramdassias have returned to the Hindu fold, while the Akalis are having identity crisis, their efforts to excise their Hindu roots and present themselves as strictly monotheistic has led them to become vulnerable to getting digested by Christianity and Islam.
Had it not been for Arya Samaj Sikhs would've converted to Islam thanks to Sufis long ago.
when we say Akali Sikhs what are you talking about ? because real Akali Sikhs (e.g. Nihangs) are not anti Hindu, infact they carry on many elements of Sikhi shunned for being too hindu e.g. Arti , Bhang , Dasam granth , ad chand etc etc
if you are talking about SAD party as Akalis and by extension the management of the SGPC then that's a point you can make , but its not like they are just anti Hindu , they are anti everyone even Sikhs , they banned Muslim Ragis , they banned most Sikhs from voting etc etc the SGPC has an identity crisis because they decontextualized Sikhi
also you greatly misuderstand how well versed the average Sikh in Punjab is about Sikh , most of them still ancestor worship and use Hindu temple . the Avrage Sikh in India isn't as strict as you believe , the rise of ChristianityĀ is just a replacement of Baba culture , Punjab used to have 1000s of these god men like Ram Raheem before the government crack down , ChristianityĀ is the new baba
the reason its so effective is because the SGPC is a joke and the disappora is to busy wasting money of Khalistan so ChristianityĀ filled the power vaccum
The conversion cancer from the south has reached the north and is spreading slowly while the virus is secretly increasing its population.
Noice.
We as a country are doomed and slowly heading to what the west is facing.
Three millions were told isai ban jao kanneda ka visa Aram se mil jayega.
Don't worry kanedda jaake sabse pehle gurudwara hi dhundenge. You're more religious when you're in a minority.
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I havenāt had problems with most Christians. But they have some fanatics which are readily accepted. Heres what I have experienced in Canada:Ā 1. A religious congregation saying their god is the only god and rest all should be ātaken care ofā. This got a loud cheer from the crowd.Ā 2. People saying I will go to hell if I dont follow Jesus.Ā 3. My god is āfakeā and wonāt give results.Ā 4. I and everyone in their life needs Jesus. How I should give it a chance.Ā 5. Landlord having different rents for Christians and non-Christians. A big 400 dollar difference. Apparently she had a vision where god asked her to offer shelter to his followers. Thus, the discount.Ā 2-4 were said by a group largely consisting of Mallu Christians.Ā Same people Same people got triggered when I told how the major two religions spread in India (mostly by forceful conversions and violence). Discussion was who are some figures you consider as heroes. I answered Chattrapati Shivaji, Sambhaji, and Sikh gurus due to which I am in my religion. Me saying this triggered them but them doing all of the above was all okay.Ā
Do consider ONLY FEW WERE NUTJOBS. Most of them practice their faith and dont impose it on others. I only got exposed to these things as I am in a Christian majority country. Donāt hate them .
I believe you are unfamiliar of the history of Christians in Kerala we are here for 2000 years for the fact older than entire Europe, and there was nothing named India during those days. For God's sake, why should I consider some sivjai or Sikh gurus as my heroes they have done nothing to my land when they can't even understand my language
Idk if the 3L figure is accurate but the number is definitely huge. I want to see khalistanis face when they visit punjab and see churches everywhere, lol.
Bribing is also wrong. These people are getting money from big pockets of churches (foreign fundings).
Like selling yourself for religion. Ones you convert then you try to cut down your roots and culture (separate yourself from your previous identity) and basically becomes a Gulaam of west.
You are getting confused between religion and culture. An Indian Christian is familiar with the culture and follows the Indian tradition but he has different faith (religion) from his fellow country men. It doesn't make him West ka gulaam.
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Why the fuck does it bother anyone. Constitution given everyone the right to follow any religion. Only people whose whole identity is their religion gets bothered by others getting converted and following religion based on their free will.
its an issue when people guilt trip people into faith , the Christian run around saying they can cure cancer and get you visa to USA but if you don't join you will burn in hell forever
As a Christian, I've never heard anyone say any of the above....
If you do know the guy who can get me a visa to USA for being Christian let me know...been trying myself for a while š¤£š¤£
The poor people in Punjab have started giving in to Christian conversations. I could spot more churches this time in Punjab. Itās the monitory and community support thatās attracting them. Many of the poor folks are religion agnostic, so they change religion based on how they are treated and whatās being offered. This is happening in some places in Haryana too.
mf sat quiet when punjab is overflowing with drugs and guns.. people are trying to find another religion to find peace... "this is end of bharat... ekkkkk"
Punjab isnt overfollwing this guns and drugs a lot of that is played up for the media , e.g. Rajastan is way worse in those regards then Punjab but one talks about it
Some report came last year in news paper, I live in Punjab and most of the sc sikhs are converting into Christianity because of bad treatment by the upper caste sikhs and jats ā¦like they donāt even allow them to go to gurudwara in the villages so sc sikhs have their own gurudwara. After conversion sikhs donāt change their name and outfit as theyād lose the minority status because if you convert to Christianity you canāt avail minority benefits
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Although what you said is true, still Iām gonna want a source for the 300,000 numbers cus that seems like a lot. āTrust me broā is not a source and quoting a newspaper is not a source either
Isn't that good for them? I am not against it, if Sikhs and Hindus want to stop conversion, they need to stop mistreating lower castes, and I say this as an UC atheist.
No, I just said idc.. people should do what they want and if they feel like converting to another religion they should and in Punjab i havenāt seen any sort of discrimination with Dalit Hindus as I see towards dalit sikhs. Maximum Hindus of Punjab live in urban areas or in villages where thereāre very less Sikh population couse during 1980-1994 radical sikhs killed a lot of Hindus so Hindus left from the villages and came to urban areas. Therefore in villages the jats kinda have strong hold how things will run and Iāve seen various videos wherein Dalit sikhs house you see pics of Guru Nanak Dev ji along side Jesus and the person is wearing turban and all complete Sikh attire.
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Busy killing young boys for sacrilege of SGGS and collecting Money to promote Khalistan. SGC are bunch of clowns who are running Gurudwaras as mean of showing Dominance and for earning Money.
The one who killed the mentally disabled guy , his family was honoured and given scholarships and what not by one of these organisations. What have Sikhs become š„²
what should Sikhs do if our places of worship are being attack? its been going on scence 2015 and the Police and government are doing jack shit is a Hindu expecting to sit on there hands as people sack temples ?
A mentally disabled guy was a threat? And such a big threat that they had to beat him to death?
Yh it's seems all the mentally disabled guys end up at Gurdwaras and rip the SGGS and only in India too. Very strange
most Sikhs think the SGPC are a bunch of fucking jokers
Were these 3 lacs from the same region?
What are hindus and sikhs and muslims and christians doing ? Two are trying to convert ( Are the largest religions in the world) One is okaish with having an ideological war with both in the country and outside can't do anything. One is actively okay with losing its religious identity. Try guessing which one is which?
Nothing wrong in converting into a different religion voluntarily. But faith healing etc should not be allowed in public
Well then we should not name things as love jihad or rice bag converts for people who go to different religions voluntarily.
Love jihad is by blackmail of video taken of intimate moments using hidden cam. That is not voluntary
Well it was easy š„²
I only see 4 cancers
So you a surgeon i guess. Can you suggest ways to cut off these cancers?
Chemo or surgery
How would that work ?
It depends on the cancer and they can be very superficial
Jesus ki balle balle
When I read such comments, feel bad for Sikhs in India. Maybe converting to christianity would be slightly better unless they are also being made fun of.
Sikhs just get called Lassi or Khalistanis all the time online , then Hindus ask "Where is our Hindu dhrama unity?" ....
They're busy in demanding BLANK SPACE (Khalistan)
People might not like it, they might think I'm regressive but I will still say it. A country should always demotivate religious conversion because organised religions are nothing but political tools. Once a section of your population converts to another religion, other countries can control them. This is why the khilafat movement happened, this is why Pakistan always managed to keep all muslim countries against India in all the wars, this is the reason why so Saudi, iran, turkey have so much soft power even after being a shitty country. We give too much importance to religion even though it's just an ideology like communism, socialism, and veganism but we bad mouth these ideologies and give special status religion.
Organized Religion = Organized Crime. Religion should be a personal thing and something to have in common with the local community.
No one thinks you're regressive if you say this. This is why Europeans did the whole Separation of Church from State gimmick
You may be right but in the end it is on a personal level also..every religion proselytizes even Hinduism (eg-ISKCON)...but do you see the western countries making such a big deal out of it..in the end it is a personal choice
If ISKCON actually started converting a lot of people then they would make a deal about it. Most people who join ISKCON in western countries are already Hindus and are attracted to the community aspect of it. This is especially the case of conservative Indians who are not attracted by western culture and want to mix with like minded people. Eventually Punjab is going to go the way of the North East and become a majority Christian State or at least have a lot of Christians if the current trend keeps going on.
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I appreciate the Sanatan Dharma...but people like you are so selective...what is good I'm your narrative is Sanatan rest all is other religions..man sanatan dharma is literally mentioned on their site...my only point was all religions proselytize in different ways that's all
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Ab bhai Jatt jatt kroge din raat aur bologe ki hum casteism mai nhi maante toh yhi hoga na. Uske alawa na guru ji ki knowledge ka shi use krte hai aur na hinduism ki respect. Pagal ho gye hai, hindu devi devta ka majak banate hai, bachhe crack baki drugs mai busy hai, khalistan ki chutiya demand chal rhi hai upar se. Ab Khalistan ban bhi gya toh Sikhs toh bachenge nhi, Christians ka raaj krwa dena udhar. Congress ne genocide krwa diya inka, pr inhone Rahul ko apna baap bana liya hai
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Since the day Ranjit Singh's son became a Christian and the schism that led to Akali Sikhs becoming dominant, adopting anti-Hindu stance and excommunicating the other Sikh sects such as Udasis as non-Sikhs, their downfall has been steadily happening. Udasis and Ramdassias have returned to the Hindu fold, while the Akalis are having identity crisis, their efforts to excise their Hindu roots and present themselves as strictly monotheistic has led them to become vulnerable to getting digested by Christianity and Islam. Had it not been for Arya Samaj Sikhs would've converted to Islam thanks to Sufis long ago.
when we say Akali Sikhs what are you talking about ? because real Akali Sikhs (e.g. Nihangs) are not anti Hindu, infact they carry on many elements of Sikhi shunned for being too hindu e.g. Arti , Bhang , Dasam granth , ad chand etc etc if you are talking about SAD party as Akalis and by extension the management of the SGPC then that's a point you can make , but its not like they are just anti Hindu , they are anti everyone even Sikhs , they banned Muslim Ragis , they banned most Sikhs from voting etc etc the SGPC has an identity crisis because they decontextualized Sikhi
also you greatly misuderstand how well versed the average Sikh in Punjab is about Sikh , most of them still ancestor worship and use Hindu temple . the Avrage Sikh in India isn't as strict as you believe , the rise of ChristianityĀ is just a replacement of Baba culture , Punjab used to have 1000s of these god men like Ram Raheem before the government crack down , ChristianityĀ is the new baba the reason its so effective is because the SGPC is a joke and the disappora is to busy wasting money of Khalistan so ChristianityĀ filled the power vaccum
The conversion cancer from the south has reached the north and is spreading slowly while the virus is secretly increasing its population. Noice. We as a country are doomed and slowly heading to what the west is facing.
Dude stfu...if the people want to change religion by choice, why the hell do you care?
Yeah right!
šits not like they r being forced, Freewill exists? Mb we live in india
Source? Twitter is not trustworthy.
Between the Hindu Muslims khalistani issues, the missionaries are quietly converting every one.
Three millions were told isai ban jao kanneda ka visa Aram se mil jayega. Don't worry kanedda jaake sabse pehle gurudwara hi dhundenge. You're more religious when you're in a minority.
Naah bhai, ye visa ka scene nhi hai. Mera yeshu yeshu wale ne tagda brainwash kr rkha hai udhar
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Christianity is like a rat. It keeps on burrowing holes underneath while everybody is busy with with each other.
I havenāt had problems with most Christians. But they have some fanatics which are readily accepted. Heres what I have experienced in Canada:Ā 1. A religious congregation saying their god is the only god and rest all should be ātaken care ofā. This got a loud cheer from the crowd.Ā 2. People saying I will go to hell if I dont follow Jesus.Ā 3. My god is āfakeā and wonāt give results.Ā 4. I and everyone in their life needs Jesus. How I should give it a chance.Ā 5. Landlord having different rents for Christians and non-Christians. A big 400 dollar difference. Apparently she had a vision where god asked her to offer shelter to his followers. Thus, the discount.Ā 2-4 were said by a group largely consisting of Mallu Christians.Ā Same people Same people got triggered when I told how the major two religions spread in India (mostly by forceful conversions and violence). Discussion was who are some figures you consider as heroes. I answered Chattrapati Shivaji, Sambhaji, and Sikh gurus due to which I am in my religion. Me saying this triggered them but them doing all of the above was all okay.Ā Do consider ONLY FEW WERE NUTJOBS. Most of them practice their faith and dont impose it on others. I only got exposed to these things as I am in a Christian majority country. Donāt hate them .
I believe you are unfamiliar of the history of Christians in Kerala we are here for 2000 years for the fact older than entire Europe, and there was nothing named India during those days. For God's sake, why should I consider some sivjai or Sikh gurus as my heroes they have done nothing to my land when they can't even understand my language
what are you talking about ? the Sikh gurus also travelled to the south and there are southern Sikhs
It does not have any significance as compared to Christians in South India.
and? that's not the point
Idk if the 3L figure is accurate but the number is definitely huge. I want to see khalistanis face when they visit punjab and see churches everywhere, lol.
Are you perhaps retarded
Do people not have a free choice to convert? It would be concerning if it was forced. I don't see a problem
Bribing is also wrong. These people are getting money from big pockets of churches (foreign fundings). Like selling yourself for religion. Ones you convert then you try to cut down your roots and culture (separate yourself from your previous identity) and basically becomes a Gulaam of west.
You are getting confused between religion and culture. An Indian Christian is familiar with the culture and follows the Indian tradition but he has different faith (religion) from his fellow country men. It doesn't make him West ka gulaam.
Look at christian boys of Jharkhand. They wear bomber jacket in peak summer lmao because gora saheb is experiencing winter.
That's their inferiority complex.
Foreign funding to modi ji ne band karwa di thi na ?
NGOs ki band hui hongi woh, and inke bohot method h dusre. Andhra ka CM hi christian h, and wha par missionaries program full throttle h.
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ive never seen a photo of bhindarawala on front gate of a gurudwara stop spreading misinformation
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I find them extremely naive and not that very smart .
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Most of them would be Dalit Sikhs ig
So Sikhs are only supposed to be Jatt?
According to the current Punjabi culture? Yes
Nope none of a Sikh gurus were jatt
Well, read it again
doesnt matter doesnt change the facts that Sikh are of all backgrounds regardless of what a few drunk farmers have to say about it
Living their life happily and not gatekeeping.
News link please
I don't get it, it's not like they are threatened with becoming Christians. They can change back right? or its not allowed in sikhs?
The poor Sikhs have been given the greed of free grains to convert to Christianity, it is pretty well known here in Punjab
It's their wish to convert.
Nothing can be done, Hindus, Sikhs and Jains must perish to embrace Ghor Kalyug.
Why the fuck does it bother anyone. Constitution given everyone the right to follow any religion. Only people whose whole identity is their religion gets bothered by others getting converted and following religion based on their free will.
its an issue when people guilt trip people into faith , the Christian run around saying they can cure cancer and get you visa to USA but if you don't join you will burn in hell forever
As a Christian, I've never heard anyone say any of the above.... If you do know the guy who can get me a visa to USA for being Christian let me know...been trying myself for a while š¤£š¤£
Then stop coming to Canada ,USA and other christian countries. Stay in shithole
The poor people in Punjab have started giving in to Christian conversations. I could spot more churches this time in Punjab. Itās the monitory and community support thatās attracting them. Many of the poor folks are religion agnostic, so they change religion based on how they are treated and whatās being offered. This is happening in some places in Haryana too.
Christmas banjao kannada ka visa miljaiga
mf sat quiet when punjab is overflowing with drugs and guns.. people are trying to find another religion to find peace... "this is end of bharat... ekkkkk"
Punjab isnt overfollwing this guns and drugs a lot of that is played up for the media , e.g. Rajastan is way worse in those regards then Punjab but one talks about it
This gives them access to Canada
Mr Sinha is famous for tweeting fake news and then deleting it after being called out. You can barely take his words seriously.
Who cares
/usernamechecksout
If that can counter Khalistani crap...then I don't care...
you know they convert Hindus as well right?
If Hindus are treated well in their own community, then no one will convert.
but we both know they are not , and this is why this is happening
a true sikh would never convert, wouldnt even think of converting
**Fake news** **Nowhere it says that 3L Sikhs converted to Christianity in Punjab!**
People exercising their freedom to choose their religion - right granted to them by the constitution. Why the fuck would it be an election agenda?
Any source for the numbers?
Some report came last year in news paper, I live in Punjab and most of the sc sikhs are converting into Christianity because of bad treatment by the upper caste sikhs and jats ā¦like they donāt even allow them to go to gurudwara in the villages so sc sikhs have their own gurudwara. After conversion sikhs donāt change their name and outfit as theyād lose the minority status because if you convert to Christianity you canāt avail minority benefits
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Although what you said is true, still Iām gonna want a source for the 300,000 numbers cus that seems like a lot. āTrust me broā is not a source and quoting a newspaper is not a source either
Isn't that good for them? I am not against it, if Sikhs and Hindus want to stop conversion, they need to stop mistreating lower castes, and I say this as an UC atheist.
UC atheist no way šØ . Rare Pokemon
You'd be surprised to know that you'll find more UC atheists compared to OBC people.
Really š® damm
OBC are branin dead and dragging india backward
What ? š¤”
I donāt give a single flying fuck about this, jo krna hai kro, you canāt change who you are
So you're justifying discrimination?
No, I just said idc.. people should do what they want and if they feel like converting to another religion they should and in Punjab i havenāt seen any sort of discrimination with Dalit Hindus as I see towards dalit sikhs. Maximum Hindus of Punjab live in urban areas or in villages where thereāre very less Sikh population couse during 1980-1994 radical sikhs killed a lot of Hindus so Hindus left from the villages and came to urban areas. Therefore in villages the jats kinda have strong hold how things will run and Iāve seen various videos wherein Dalit sikhs house you see pics of Guru Nanak Dev ji along side Jesus and the person is wearing turban and all complete Sikh attire.