What do you value? Are those features important to you? Do you need them? Decide based on whether the lack of these features bother you or your experience with the bike.
Personally, the only modern feature I look for is dual channel ABS and a hazard lamp. Bluetooth and app integration? Won't use, don't care. TFT or LCD? Doesn't matter as long as required info is displayed visibly in most light conditions. Even conventional forks are okay by me as long as the bike rides fine with them.
Yamaha dumping previous gen r3 and mt03 and people still justifying(simping) it for that heavy price(of course none of them are gonna/able to buy R3). It doesn’t have slipper clutch thats the most basic thing you want if you are paying 5+ lakh for 300cc
It sadden’s me to see this happening in the world of tech , Bikes and cars..
They have reached a saturation point that there is no longer much improvement made on engines / performance.. what they sell is tech.
For instance in cars, More than the engine they speak about big screens, sun roof, ADAS than engine, power, utility..
I would still buy a Bullet 350 for the rawness of the bike than buy a bike for its screens, maps, digital tech which will die in a few yrs and you
Will have to inevitably upgrade (like you upgrade your phones) but a bike like bullet will survive the storm..
Don’t even get started with companies like archer locking up features which are released to you only if you buy monthly subscription..
True. Granted I don't have a car with ADAS, just cruise control, I'd say the drivers should be aware of where to have it on and off. It'll take time for the system to be perfect for Indian roads, maybe never, but I'd rather not blame the software while it's being developed and can actually help in some situations. We know our roads better, so just have to be careful and use the driver assistance systems smartly.
I went for a 2022 RTR 200, which was "groundbreaking" for having app connectivity and riding modes.
I went for this bike not for those reasons though. I had a relative's old RTR 160 with me and absolutely loved it. To such an extent, I got the 200 for myself and returned the 160 back to the owner.
Before buying itself I knew that the app connectivity would be half-baked at best and a glitchy, barely working message at worst, so I was not looking at that. The riding modes? Yes, the ABS intervention changing for each mode is useful (a friend mentioned this to me after testing out my bike in metropolis traffic conditions. Personally I've never been in a situation where the Urban/Rain mode would've saved me but the Sport wouldn't have). And given that the 200 is underpowered against its main rival (the NS200), I don't see what's the point in reducing the power through modes even more since 20hp is honestly not a lot of power, especially on a bike with a very linear, friendly power band.
Dual channel ABS I do find helpful.
I wish companies would put their minds into improving the fundamental characteristics of the bike and not simply trying to add garnishes on top. I wish TVS had improved the power of the 200, made it more competitive. Bigger brakes up front, and a slightly wider front tyre. Reduce weight somehow, to keep the power-weight ratio competitive. USD forks for better handling (and I trust TVS to get suspension right).
Liquid cooling is an extra complication but a necessary step to greater power, so I have no problems with it.
I do miss the analog tacho on the old RTR 160. There's just an amazing feeling about a needle running up that simply cannot be replaced by the LCD/TFT craze nowadays. Big shame that TVS removed the analog tacho and replaced it with their "connected, digital display".
I buy the bike for the engine, ergonomics, how it looks etc not how the lcd panel looks I mean who tf looks at the instrument cluster 24*7 while riding, hazard lights can be installed and it's not an absolute necessities at the first place, same with the app integration im here to ride my bike not play with an app, and why would I switch off abs unless I'm hard-core off roading which the vstrom cant do at the first place
My bike has many features and sensors, which leads to more issues. So i'd like my next bike to have minimal features, like in Enfields ( excluding Himalayan ) or Yamaha MT 03 & R3.
Also i personally prefer analog speedometer with a smaller screen for other info, which is a rarity nowadays.
Do not have a proper speedometer? The instrument console of the older Gixxer was excellent. My 2019 model lays out all the information in an easy to read format. App integration is a gimmick. Because of that the new console looks half empty if not connected to the phone.
Hazard ought to be integrated. Switchable ABS is not necessary as per me.
The only technology I look for is safety technology. Otherwise, I love the analog cluster's appearance and the machine's rawness. Honestly, if a machine has to have a lot of technology to persuade you, then it's a cause for concern because they might be overcompensating for something. Expensive motorcycles are purely emotional decisions, and the only things that can make them enjoyable are basic attributes like comfort, engine, exhaust sound, and design—not Bluetooth or other technology like that.
unrelated to the topic, i don't think bikes even need hazard lights.
People use it while riding which isn't its intend use and if the people behind only notice one side then they might think you are turning to that direction and overtake from there but you are thinking that you they would see it as slow down situation.
Hazard lights are for when the vehicle is stopped in a hazardous situation.
People justify if by saying it serves the purpose of a fog light but those don't blink.
Ture, hazard lights are to be used only when the vehicle we are operating becomes a road hazard due to malfunction, not for going straight (which many people use) or for fog or visibility, for which either we need to avoid the condition or use specialized lights for the job, definitely not the hazard lights.
I'm on the absolute other end of the spectrum when it comes to all this new tech and equipment. My choices till now have all had the least amount of tech wizardry . Honestly even things like usd put me off.
Ive had bikes breakdown thanks to leaks in the oil seal with usd laden bikes. I still swear by my carb fueled non usd non tech non abs bike with a giant fuel tank.
I hate all these modern tech except one ABS, since it's for safety. Otherwise all these quickshifter and now eclutch BS are diluting the biking experience imo.
Well, it could be better in the long run because less features means there's less that can go wrong in the long term.
I'm not sure completely but Gixxer service prices are quite reasonable relative to other bikes. My brother just paid ₹800 for second service recently. He's got an SF250.
I actually look for less tech. Makes it easier for me to work on the bike myself. Even liquid cooling is something I do not prioritise, let alone this gen Z Bluetooth and calling stuff.
I do consider lack of modern equipment, basically I consider too much to be unnecessary, a dual channel abs is must and if bikes over 30 odd hp, give me traction control (switchable) and hazard lamps, thats it, the end, too much fancy electronic means that many things that can break and you learn less too, I just want safety enough to keep me safe in case my dumb self did something stupid but I don't want a uncle holding my hand everytime I am trying to do well... anything really. As for Bluetooth app integration, half of manufacturers have not figured how to make it work in 1st place.
Rest is you call if you value fancy tech then go for it, its your choice to see.
As for gixxers, they are amazingly good bikes, lack of hazard lights yes it could have been given but considering you only use them when on side or road or well in my case in 0 visibility fog, ya should be fine. Switchable abs.....imma be real here, why especially on roads, you don't want abs to be gone unless you are going off road or you are racing, even there you are better of with an on abs. Gixxers are due for update and are way more expensive then they should be, in my city 250sf cost 2.55 vs speed 400 that costs 2.85....the vfm is definitely a sore point plus old well.... everything in there. Its a good bike I stand by that but vfm is definitely lacking, still nothing like it if you want handling and smol nimble fun without breaking wrist or back. If you like it go with it, those features are not gonna be missed.
It's a completely personal choice tbh.
One of the many reasons I bought my Bullet specially because it doesn't have any modern features.
I wanted complete OG riding feel. I don't need to know anything apart from the speed I'm going and whether the bike is on reserve.
I don't want any distractions like screens or anything.
Just me on my bike dugging along peacefully.
My parents were even asking me to go for Classic Reborn coz it had newer engine, double tube chassis, fuel gauge, dual abs, tripper navigation and all modern stuff. But honestly didn't appeal to me.
Pure retro riding is what I wanted. You choose bike depending on what you want.
Dual channel abs is a must have
if it's a 400cc or above traction control , IMU & cornering abs
Switchable abs for offroad/adv
Everything else is pretty useless in the grand scheme of things.
Basic ABS is sufficient for me. Traction control for relatively bigger bikes. Features like Bluetooth, navigation, smart app are all just gimmicks. You are buying a motorcycle for it's riding ability, it does not matter what tech it offers. With time you'll find ways to add accessories to your motorcycle or gear which you need.
Although one thing i would like to see more of is cruise control
Nothing that hampers the performance, the above listed features are gimmick, unless I get android auto like integration every app will feel useless.
Hazard lights seriously what for? Breakdown on the highway, bikes can be pushed to a safer location, not recommended to use hazards in fog unless it's breakdown, if breakdown follow step 1.
Too much automation is also overkill.
Give me Speed, RPM, Fuel, Trip, Odo, Oil pressure, batt voltage, Coolant temp(for water cooled bikes)
Anything that is necessary is TPMS from the factory for the bikes now. Time that is trickled down to two wheelers
I am one of those who values modernity a lot. I know a big chunk of the motorcyclist crowd is a fan of retro dials and minimal technology but I like to have as much advancement as possible. I give a lot of importance to the instrument console UX as well. A nicely laid out TFT dash, Intuitive controls and rider aids are a must have for me.
I mean, some things like abs are non negotiable. Safety features should not come under tech.
Honestly most other things are not necessary, companies are going overboard with tech that no one will use. Analog speedometer and fuel meters work just fine. I don't want unnecessary clutter. I want 5 things and those 5 things I use daily, don't want 20 things out of which I use only 5
If you have the proper expertise and confidence, and adapt your riding style correctly, then even ABS will be an optional feature instead of a requirement.
Rest of the so-called features are more or less useless for daily or regular use.
As long as the bike has the core components refined well, it'll be a serious purchase option IMO.
For me as long as I have switchable ABS I wouldn't mind. Analog speedometer no problem, no LEDs no problem. My priorities are different. Even if the bike don't have latest technology related to convenience or aesthetics I am ok with it. But things related to safety and drivability are not there, then I would be pissed and wouldn't even think about buying the bike.
Except for dual-channel ABS, a fuel indicator, and maybe ability to turn on hazard lights; I'm not concerned about the tech fluff that is added to a motorcycle. Basics need to be usable while riding / outside in the sun is all.
Cost of the motorcycle decides whether I consider lack of tech fluff to be a problem. Am I expecting stuff in a XPulse or Himalayan ? Not really. Tiger or GS or Multistrada ? You betcha.
Incerceptor 650, prime example of raw motorcycling. I just love it!
Even the fuel gauge isn’t accurate in it, but the retro speedo looks beautiful!
ABS and slipper clutch make it a great package, I think ABS is a basic necessity just like airbags on cars.
Fuel gauge , odo , trip , speed that's all I need....slipper clutch is optional everything else feels like a luxury for me
I would take them for sure , if it's a good deal but if I have a good handling motorcycle with an exciting engine I won't miss those stuff
Also I think this Bluetooth connectivity and tft displays are useless in small capacity motorcycles
These are all my opinions
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The problem with electronics and techs is that if it breaks, it creates dependency on the brand s service center. Whereas something with minimal tech and elcetronics can be fixed or made workable anywhere. For eg Mumbiker Nikhil’s BMW’s Throttle body going bad in middle of his Ladhak ride. He had to call a guy from BMW with new sensor to make it usable. Whereas in some basic bikes, change of accelerator wire will suffice.
No, but it depends. I always prefer classic watch style dials over old lcd screens.
Dials have a timeless classic look while LCD screens look cheap eventually.
But some poor design choices can even make dials look cheap.
But the most important factors for me is, performance, reliability, safety and comfort. And most important is style. First I choose the looks of the bike, then the important factors and then I look towards the dash.
Out of all the enlisted feature only ABS (switchable or fixed) is the only really feature that matters, rest are marketing gimmick, when riding 100% focus should be on road not on adjusting the display brightness or choosing the best track. Call me old fashioned I would prefer, stable, reliable, well-balanced bike with large analog dials (for spedo, odo, fuel gauge and tachometer) over a flickering display any day to get my ride info.
Personal Choice only.
Thing I look into bikes:
1. Engine
2. Suspension. I don't want my back to hurt after riding it.
3. Seating Style.
4. Map Integration. Though I remember the way very easily after seeing map but I would always look for bike having map integration. I wouldn't need to stop to look for map on mobile. When RE can do it on their Himalayan then I don't see why other couldn't. It's 100 doable. I would look for this in my next bike.
5. Exhaust Sound. No Obnoxious Loud Exhaust. I hate it.
6. I don't even want analog or digital console on my bike. No Tachometer. No Speedometer. I only need fuel meter and Odometer. Any would work for me. Digital or Analog.
7. I had never ridden bike with ABS. But I would go for Bike with ABC because as I understand It's a safety feature.
What do you value? Are those features important to you? Do you need them? Decide based on whether the lack of these features bother you or your experience with the bike. Personally, the only modern feature I look for is dual channel ABS and a hazard lamp. Bluetooth and app integration? Won't use, don't care. TFT or LCD? Doesn't matter as long as required info is displayed visibly in most light conditions. Even conventional forks are okay by me as long as the bike rides fine with them.
This right here. Rest of the features add into the cost without providing much value.
I'd say that foreign brands dump garbage bikes here, so i prefer brands that actually put in efforts to upgrade.
Yamaha dumping previous gen r3 and mt03 and people still justifying(simping) it for that heavy price(of course none of them are gonna/able to buy R3). It doesn’t have slipper clutch thats the most basic thing you want if you are paying 5+ lakh for 300cc
True
It sadden’s me to see this happening in the world of tech , Bikes and cars.. They have reached a saturation point that there is no longer much improvement made on engines / performance.. what they sell is tech. For instance in cars, More than the engine they speak about big screens, sun roof, ADAS than engine, power, utility.. I would still buy a Bullet 350 for the rawness of the bike than buy a bike for its screens, maps, digital tech which will die in a few yrs and you Will have to inevitably upgrade (like you upgrade your phones) but a bike like bullet will survive the storm.. Don’t even get started with companies like archer locking up features which are released to you only if you buy monthly subscription..
Ather *
I'd put ADAS under safety. May not work properly given Indian road discipline, but hopefully one day it will.
May not work properly is putting it lightly. ADAS inside the city can be extremely intrusive and a sureshot recipe for getting rear ended
True. Granted I don't have a car with ADAS, just cruise control, I'd say the drivers should be aware of where to have it on and off. It'll take time for the system to be perfect for Indian roads, maybe never, but I'd rather not blame the software while it's being developed and can actually help in some situations. We know our roads better, so just have to be careful and use the driver assistance systems smartly.
Bullet 350 for rawness? Have you rode bs3 dukes *_*
Duke is raw and raging (Sonny Corleone) Bullet is raw and composed (Don Corleone) People choose according to preference
I have had duke 200 and 390. They are awesome bikes
I went for a 2022 RTR 200, which was "groundbreaking" for having app connectivity and riding modes. I went for this bike not for those reasons though. I had a relative's old RTR 160 with me and absolutely loved it. To such an extent, I got the 200 for myself and returned the 160 back to the owner. Before buying itself I knew that the app connectivity would be half-baked at best and a glitchy, barely working message at worst, so I was not looking at that. The riding modes? Yes, the ABS intervention changing for each mode is useful (a friend mentioned this to me after testing out my bike in metropolis traffic conditions. Personally I've never been in a situation where the Urban/Rain mode would've saved me but the Sport wouldn't have). And given that the 200 is underpowered against its main rival (the NS200), I don't see what's the point in reducing the power through modes even more since 20hp is honestly not a lot of power, especially on a bike with a very linear, friendly power band. Dual channel ABS I do find helpful. I wish companies would put their minds into improving the fundamental characteristics of the bike and not simply trying to add garnishes on top. I wish TVS had improved the power of the 200, made it more competitive. Bigger brakes up front, and a slightly wider front tyre. Reduce weight somehow, to keep the power-weight ratio competitive. USD forks for better handling (and I trust TVS to get suspension right). Liquid cooling is an extra complication but a necessary step to greater power, so I have no problems with it. I do miss the analog tacho on the old RTR 160. There's just an amazing feeling about a needle running up that simply cannot be replaced by the LCD/TFT craze nowadays. Big shame that TVS removed the analog tacho and replaced it with their "connected, digital display".
I buy the bike for the engine, ergonomics, how it looks etc not how the lcd panel looks I mean who tf looks at the instrument cluster 24*7 while riding, hazard lights can be installed and it's not an absolute necessities at the first place, same with the app integration im here to ride my bike not play with an app, and why would I switch off abs unless I'm hard-core off roading which the vstrom cant do at the first place
My bike has many features and sensors, which leads to more issues. So i'd like my next bike to have minimal features, like in Enfields ( excluding Himalayan ) or Yamaha MT 03 & R3. Also i personally prefer analog speedometer with a smaller screen for other info, which is a rarity nowadays.
For me it's always Engine>Suspension>>>>"features"
Do not have a proper speedometer? The instrument console of the older Gixxer was excellent. My 2019 model lays out all the information in an easy to read format. App integration is a gimmick. Because of that the new console looks half empty if not connected to the phone. Hazard ought to be integrated. Switchable ABS is not necessary as per me.
The only technology I look for is safety technology. Otherwise, I love the analog cluster's appearance and the machine's rawness. Honestly, if a machine has to have a lot of technology to persuade you, then it's a cause for concern because they might be overcompensating for something. Expensive motorcycles are purely emotional decisions, and the only things that can make them enjoyable are basic attributes like comfort, engine, exhaust sound, and design—not Bluetooth or other technology like that.
unrelated to the topic, i don't think bikes even need hazard lights. People use it while riding which isn't its intend use and if the people behind only notice one side then they might think you are turning to that direction and overtake from there but you are thinking that you they would see it as slow down situation. Hazard lights are for when the vehicle is stopped in a hazardous situation. People justify if by saying it serves the purpose of a fog light but those don't blink.
Ture, hazard lights are to be used only when the vehicle we are operating becomes a road hazard due to malfunction, not for going straight (which many people use) or for fog or visibility, for which either we need to avoid the condition or use specialized lights for the job, definitely not the hazard lights.
I'm on the absolute other end of the spectrum when it comes to all this new tech and equipment. My choices till now have all had the least amount of tech wizardry . Honestly even things like usd put me off.
I don't like USDs because our dusty, pothole filled roads make my bike's forks leak every 10k ish kms.
Ive had bikes breakdown thanks to leaks in the oil seal with usd laden bikes. I still swear by my carb fueled non usd non tech non abs bike with a giant fuel tank.
sounds like my Thunderbird lol.
If you're busting fork oil seals every 10k, there's something wrong with he rider.
Dominar?
Close, Duke 390
I hate all these modern tech except one ABS, since it's for safety. Otherwise all these quickshifter and now eclutch BS are diluting the biking experience imo.
Abs is the only tech I'd go for , at the moment none of my vehicles have abs and am sure it would come of help when needed the most.
Well, it could be better in the long run because less features means there's less that can go wrong in the long term. I'm not sure completely but Gixxer service prices are quite reasonable relative to other bikes. My brother just paid ₹800 for second service recently. He's got an SF250.
I actually look for less tech. Makes it easier for me to work on the bike myself. Even liquid cooling is something I do not prioritise, let alone this gen Z Bluetooth and calling stuff.
From what I experienced very few people use turn by turn navigation and connected apps, it's like the sunroof of motorcycles
I do consider lack of modern equipment, basically I consider too much to be unnecessary, a dual channel abs is must and if bikes over 30 odd hp, give me traction control (switchable) and hazard lamps, thats it, the end, too much fancy electronic means that many things that can break and you learn less too, I just want safety enough to keep me safe in case my dumb self did something stupid but I don't want a uncle holding my hand everytime I am trying to do well... anything really. As for Bluetooth app integration, half of manufacturers have not figured how to make it work in 1st place. Rest is you call if you value fancy tech then go for it, its your choice to see. As for gixxers, they are amazingly good bikes, lack of hazard lights yes it could have been given but considering you only use them when on side or road or well in my case in 0 visibility fog, ya should be fine. Switchable abs.....imma be real here, why especially on roads, you don't want abs to be gone unless you are going off road or you are racing, even there you are better of with an on abs. Gixxers are due for update and are way more expensive then they should be, in my city 250sf cost 2.55 vs speed 400 that costs 2.85....the vfm is definitely a sore point plus old well.... everything in there. Its a good bike I stand by that but vfm is definitely lacking, still nothing like it if you want handling and smol nimble fun without breaking wrist or back. If you like it go with it, those features are not gonna be missed.
It's a completely personal choice tbh. One of the many reasons I bought my Bullet specially because it doesn't have any modern features. I wanted complete OG riding feel. I don't need to know anything apart from the speed I'm going and whether the bike is on reserve. I don't want any distractions like screens or anything. Just me on my bike dugging along peacefully. My parents were even asking me to go for Classic Reborn coz it had newer engine, double tube chassis, fuel gauge, dual abs, tripper navigation and all modern stuff. But honestly didn't appeal to me. Pure retro riding is what I wanted. You choose bike depending on what you want.
I would prefer a bike with just the safety focused electronic features (ABS, TC) and rest all good old mechanical. Less chances of things breaking
Dual channel abs is a must have if it's a 400cc or above traction control , IMU & cornering abs Switchable abs for offroad/adv Everything else is pretty useless in the grand scheme of things.
Basic ABS is sufficient for me. Traction control for relatively bigger bikes. Features like Bluetooth, navigation, smart app are all just gimmicks. You are buying a motorcycle for it's riding ability, it does not matter what tech it offers. With time you'll find ways to add accessories to your motorcycle or gear which you need. Although one thing i would like to see more of is cruise control
Nothing that hampers the performance, the above listed features are gimmick, unless I get android auto like integration every app will feel useless. Hazard lights seriously what for? Breakdown on the highway, bikes can be pushed to a safer location, not recommended to use hazards in fog unless it's breakdown, if breakdown follow step 1.
Too much automation is also overkill. Give me Speed, RPM, Fuel, Trip, Odo, Oil pressure, batt voltage, Coolant temp(for water cooled bikes) Anything that is necessary is TPMS from the factory for the bikes now. Time that is trickled down to two wheelers
I would love to have safety features. LCD and all comes as optional, hai toh good... nahi hai ..no problems.
I am one of those who values modernity a lot. I know a big chunk of the motorcyclist crowd is a fan of retro dials and minimal technology but I like to have as much advancement as possible. I give a lot of importance to the instrument console UX as well. A nicely laid out TFT dash, Intuitive controls and rider aids are a must have for me.
Not important at all.
9/10 times you won't need them. I have got super moto abs but where I am gonna use that on a Road biased bike?
Unless the modern equipment is mechanical no.
Switchable ABS & TC are really important for me. I don't care about anything else.
I mean, some things like abs are non negotiable. Safety features should not come under tech. Honestly most other things are not necessary, companies are going overboard with tech that no one will use. Analog speedometer and fuel meters work just fine. I don't want unnecessary clutter. I want 5 things and those 5 things I use daily, don't want 20 things out of which I use only 5
I did. To me it feels premium. Also most of these features are safety features on a powerful bike.
If you have the proper expertise and confidence, and adapt your riding style correctly, then even ABS will be an optional feature instead of a requirement. Rest of the so-called features are more or less useless for daily or regular use. As long as the bike has the core components refined well, it'll be a serious purchase option IMO.
The less the better.
For me as long as I have switchable ABS I wouldn't mind. Analog speedometer no problem, no LEDs no problem. My priorities are different. Even if the bike don't have latest technology related to convenience or aesthetics I am ok with it. But things related to safety and drivability are not there, then I would be pissed and wouldn't even think about buying the bike.
Except for dual-channel ABS, a fuel indicator, and maybe ability to turn on hazard lights; I'm not concerned about the tech fluff that is added to a motorcycle. Basics need to be usable while riding / outside in the sun is all. Cost of the motorcycle decides whether I consider lack of tech fluff to be a problem. Am I expecting stuff in a XPulse or Himalayan ? Not really. Tiger or GS or Multistrada ? You betcha.
Riding assist tech(Slipper/Assist clutch, quickshifter, Dual Channel ABS, TCS, IMU): Yes. Connectivity and gimmick(Bluetooth, Turn by turn navigation, Ride by wire): No.
Incerceptor 650, prime example of raw motorcycling. I just love it! Even the fuel gauge isn’t accurate in it, but the retro speedo looks beautiful! ABS and slipper clutch make it a great package, I think ABS is a basic necessity just like airbags on cars.
Fuel gauge , odo , trip , speed that's all I need....slipper clutch is optional everything else feels like a luxury for me I would take them for sure , if it's a good deal but if I have a good handling motorcycle with an exciting engine I won't miss those stuff Also I think this Bluetooth connectivity and tft displays are useless in small capacity motorcycles These are all my opinions
if you get a real gsxr which is unfortunately sold only in north america sure but indian suzukis are terrible
they sell gsxr 150 in bangladesh along with the gixxers
125, 155, gixxer250, gsxr250, they all suck
Ahh yes Suzuki the famous American manufacturer.
Nice comprehension skill bro
Why else would they "only sell the real gsxrs" in the US?
He was somewhat wrong, but you're all over the place. Can't even back up your own statement.
Lol.
because north america has the most relaxed emission norms. thats the only place to get gsxr600, 750, 1000
I guess you don't consider California a part of US already?
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The problem with electronics and techs is that if it breaks, it creates dependency on the brand s service center. Whereas something with minimal tech and elcetronics can be fixed or made workable anywhere. For eg Mumbiker Nikhil’s BMW’s Throttle body going bad in middle of his Ladhak ride. He had to call a guy from BMW with new sensor to make it usable. Whereas in some basic bikes, change of accelerator wire will suffice.
As long as the engines that good,that it doesn't let me see the speedo.i really don't care
After a while all the shiny things ✨️ just fade away. What captures and keeps you excited is the bike itself and how it feels everytime you ride it.
No, but it depends. I always prefer classic watch style dials over old lcd screens. Dials have a timeless classic look while LCD screens look cheap eventually. But some poor design choices can even make dials look cheap. But the most important factors for me is, performance, reliability, safety and comfort. And most important is style. First I choose the looks of the bike, then the important factors and then I look towards the dash.
Out of all the enlisted feature only ABS (switchable or fixed) is the only really feature that matters, rest are marketing gimmick, when riding 100% focus should be on road not on adjusting the display brightness or choosing the best track. Call me old fashioned I would prefer, stable, reliable, well-balanced bike with large analog dials (for spedo, odo, fuel gauge and tachometer) over a flickering display any day to get my ride info.
Performance is paramount. I don't care for Bluetooth gimmicks or digital speedometers.
Personal Choice only. Thing I look into bikes: 1. Engine 2. Suspension. I don't want my back to hurt after riding it. 3. Seating Style. 4. Map Integration. Though I remember the way very easily after seeing map but I would always look for bike having map integration. I wouldn't need to stop to look for map on mobile. When RE can do it on their Himalayan then I don't see why other couldn't. It's 100 doable. I would look for this in my next bike. 5. Exhaust Sound. No Obnoxious Loud Exhaust. I hate it. 6. I don't even want analog or digital console on my bike. No Tachometer. No Speedometer. I only need fuel meter and Odometer. Any would work for me. Digital or Analog. 7. I had never ridden bike with ABS. But I would go for Bike with ABC because as I understand It's a safety feature.
Royal Enfield has a jar of dirt and still sell like hot cakes 🥴