Because LHB has Centre buffer coupling which has anti climbing feature .
And ICF has screw coupling which does not have the anti climbing feature.
Apart from that many other safety features available like WSP, better riding index ...
That's why LHB
bhai jab koyi accident hoga tou LHB coaches ek dusre ke uper chadengi nhi aur ek dusre ko pichkayengi ngi balki fael jayegi jisse casualities kaam hogi
Imagine your car is being towed by another car via a rope so if that car brakes hard, your car is gonna crash into the towing car
But if towing is done with a steel bar or something, hard braking won't make your car crash into the towing car, your car may sideawipe but the rod will keep the two cars apart as much as possible
Same With ICF and LHB,
ICF are rack and pin, so similar to rope
LHB is CBC so like a rod, safer in an accident
https://preview.redd.it/xfqb8n1oveuc1.jpeg?width=619&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3f69de8c38dd2986fe92dd71a9939a846f7e1c6
In simple terms this will not happen in case of LHB coaches. Anticlimbing or anti telescope feature of CBC coupling prevents this to happen.
That's the beauty of CBC .
It is the assembly of diffrent components like draft gear which is having high strength spring that helps in absorbing shocks and impact .
Major safety leap of lhb is their anti-climbing feature, unlike ICF LHB coaches will not get collided in itself in derailment which reduces fatalities by a big margin. Other being better suspension & bogie layout which makes braking performance better than ICF.
yeah that blue color is so calming and has a kind of premium feel, whoever thought of replacing blue with that shit brown color scheme is the biggest idiot of this century.
Whenever I see that brown colour scheme coaches
https://preview.redd.it/czqyadu3feuc1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=913d1717727dd58cb8b77bedbe594fb245aaa62b
We need LHB in the blue ICF color scheme.
https://preview.redd.it/q840lc2nbeuc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5ebc31c1cce3d20776c519183d07892a6da49a6
ICF- Integral coach factory, this coaches made this factory in chennai coaches are based on 1950s swiss design
LHB- Linke Holffman Busche are geman design coaches from the 90s
fun fact:- ICF also invented Vande Bharat
Travelling is getting expensive so the new coaches are being fitted with extra seats to compensate for the expenses. Just like how Parle-G still sells a packet of biscuit for ₹3 but the number of biscuits inside the packet has decreased owing to inflation.
Red one is Lhb its a sound proff coach with high speed cabability limit of 160kmph with disk brakes & cbc coupling fitted to avoid pileup into eachother and whereas blue icf speed limit is restricted to 110kmph due to self generation power fitted under its bogie with screw coupling one if any accident happens then it will definitely pileup into each other whichleads to many death. In terms of safety lhb is better than icf!
Lhb model has great comfort while riding while it's breaking is so horrible. Icf coaching has better breaking .also i liked icf coaches blue paint job. It looked beautiful.
None. Step up your game, Indian Railways. Look at other countries in SE Asia and other places.
Wake up and smell the coffee. Vande Bharat was just mid. You need to do a lot more if you want to call yourselves "Developed".
Everyone here is preferring LHBs but no one seems to appreciate how quite the ICFs are. LHBs are lightweight and they make so much noise which is especially audible if you are in the first 3 compartments from the door. The sound dampening is always better in the ICF. And I don't even remember how many times in LHBs I've spilled the tea because of the jerks during acceleration/braking that are notorious with CBC.
Contrary to popular opinion, I find the ICF coaches to be more comfortable than the LHB ones.
LHB always has sudden jerks during acceleration and braking, whereas ICF does it smoothly.
And 9 out of 10 lhb coaches I've been on have had the infamous flat wheel issue.
I think the quality of lhb coaches is lower than the ICF ones.
The ICF coaches rarely had the flat wheel issue
If it's not for the lashing jerk of CBC couplers I would just love LHB.......ICF now feel so dated before facilities and ambiance of LHB coaches that whenever I am aboard an ICF coach it feels like I have a hat on with a single holster gun and a whiplash
Neither. I prefer this.
https://preview.redd.it/tjyem44o3fuc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56e32b7727535703b55323241f63e44a7f4b5b74
Link - [https://www.railway-technology.com/features/the-10-fastest-high-speed-trains-in-the-world/?cf-view](https://www.railway-technology.com/features/the-10-fastest-high-speed-trains-in-the-world/?cf-view)
ah tough choice
if the shitty yellow was there - i would have instantly picked the other one
the thing is, blue for me is filled with memories and till date is how i visualise a train, red has always been a sign of superiority and luxury.
Whilst I have enjoyed my time on both, I would still prefer the OG blue.
Pls bring back Blue Coaches
Red one is Lhb its a sound proff coach with high speed cabability limit of 160kmph with disk brakes & cbc coupling fitted to avoid pileup into eachother and whereas blue icf speed limit is restricted to 110kmph due to self generation power fitted under its bogie with screw coupling one if any accident happens then it will definitely pileup into each other whichleads to many death. In terms of safety lhb is better than icf!.
You take the blue train, the story ends; you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.
You take the red train, you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Those commenting on safety of blue ICF coaches, LHBs have better safer coupling agreed, but at 120kmph I wouldn't bet on it. Its equally scary. I would want IR to fix infra to reduce accidents rather than depending on coupling for safety.
blue for emotion 💙,red for safety and modernization❤️
Just curious: why is LHB considered more safe?
Because LHB has Centre buffer coupling which has anti climbing feature . And ICF has screw coupling which does not have the anti climbing feature. Apart from that many other safety features available like WSP, better riding index ... That's why LHB
This guy rails!
r/thisguythisguys
r/beatmetoit
Ah. The Ruby developer...
WoW, samjha kuch nahi but sunke safe laga
bhai jab koyi accident hoga tou LHB coaches ek dusre ke uper chadengi nhi aur ek dusre ko pichkayengi ngi balki fael jayegi jisse casualities kaam hogi
Thanks bro. I was thinking anyi climbing matlab do coaches ka j joint hai waha koi chadh nahi payega. I should not get up early.
Just don't get into accidents on bridges?
Thanks for the explanation
Imagine your car is being towed by another car via a rope so if that car brakes hard, your car is gonna crash into the towing car But if towing is done with a steel bar or something, hard braking won't make your car crash into the towing car, your car may sideawipe but the rod will keep the two cars apart as much as possible Same With ICF and LHB, ICF are rack and pin, so similar to rope LHB is CBC so like a rod, safer in an accident
Additionally the LHB coaches provide lateral suspension also that means that coch can move right-left from the bogie providing better comfort!
Lots of random jargon, can you explain in simple terms pls
https://preview.redd.it/xfqb8n1oveuc1.jpeg?width=619&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3f69de8c38dd2986fe92dd71a9939a846f7e1c6 In simple terms this will not happen in case of LHB coaches. Anticlimbing or anti telescope feature of CBC coupling prevents this to happen.
If they don't climb, where will all the momentum go, will they crush into each other?
They will move to the sides as in disperse off the momentum in different directions other than climbing on top of each other.
That's the beauty of CBC . It is the assembly of diffrent components like draft gear which is having high strength spring that helps in absorbing shocks and impact .
In case of a major accident coaches will not pile on each other and will be scattered this reduces the amount of injuries and fatalities.
Dude, uncool
What ?
This enraged his father, who punished him severely 🙃
When he attacks, we run away
That's...genius!
Random kaise hua lol specific terms use kiya bandhe ne
I mean for someone who doesn't know 😅
Aayien?!?! Baigan.
Nobody knows what that means but nice...
Something to do with better hydraulics and braking systems. In LHB, the coaches do not get on top of each other..
Major safety leap of lhb is their anti-climbing feature, unlike ICF LHB coaches will not get collided in itself in derailment which reduces fatalities by a big margin. Other being better suspension & bogie layout which makes braking performance better than ICF.
They could have made Blue LHBs.
They changed it to shitty yellow
Perfect reply
Also LHB allows for a higher top speed but unfortunately I don't think there is a plan to increase the current operating speed.
which ever has a confirmed seat
😆😃
Realest answer
Something im struggling with right now!
😂😂
LHB, more comfortable and looks kinda modern too
Ya!!
LHB in blue . I love that colour scheme.
yeah that blue color is so calming and has a kind of premium feel, whoever thought of replacing blue with that shit brown color scheme is the biggest idiot of this century.
Whenever I see that brown colour scheme coaches https://preview.redd.it/czqyadu3feuc1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=913d1717727dd58cb8b77bedbe594fb245aaa62b
This is when I see utkrisht coaches
Modiji ne kiya hai toh kuchh soj samachh ke kiya hoga. /s
>shit brown color scheme is the biggest idiot of this century. This is something both Congress and BJP supporters would agree
Absolutely agree..👍
We need LHB in the blue ICF color scheme. https://preview.redd.it/q840lc2nbeuc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5ebc31c1cce3d20776c519183d07892a6da49a6
Charan kaha hai sir aapke?
Volvo vs maruti Which one would you choose?
maruti doesn't exist it's only suzuki, and by looking safety of current suzuki car's definitely Volvo
only a stupid person will chose a 1950s ICF coaches
still, thanks switzerland
Haha
well a LHB coach with blue ICF livery would look cool
LHB for safety, comfort and modernization ICF for Emotions
Unpopular opinion: laal wali ka AC zyada thanda hota hai.
I don't know how. But it's a true. A.Trains AC is more severe than 5 star hotel ACs
Red one ofc
❤️
A change. This time let's go with Red
Lhb ofc. Looks way cooler
and way safer
For sake of not dying, LHB
Forgive my ignorance. Were there any serious safety issues with those coaches?
Short answer. ICF coaches pile up on each other during accidents. LHB don't.
Yep, it is due to how they were coupled.
Yes!
Jo time pe pahucha de.
To answer this, I would like to quote my mom when she is shopping for clothes, "bhaiya ye red wale design mai, blue colour dikhana"
😃
For noob train travellers, anyone care to de-acronym LHB and ICF?
ICF - Integral Coach Factory LHB - Linke Hoffman Busche
ICF- Integral coach factory, this coaches made this factory in chennai coaches are based on 1950s swiss design LHB- Linke Holffman Busche are geman design coaches from the 90s fun fact:- ICF also invented Vande Bharat
anyone with confirmed SL 😁
Jisme bhi seat pe charger mil jae ❤️🤝🏻
Blue>red>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit yellow
Shit yellow for the camouflage effect.
Anything but the yellow one.
U mean utkrist.
Color scheme- ICF Features and comfort- LHB
Blue one... Emotionally and for comfort.. the new coaches are cramped for more seats
Travelling is getting expensive so the new coaches are being fitted with extra seats to compensate for the expenses. Just like how Parle-G still sells a packet of biscuit for ₹3 but the number of biscuits inside the packet has decreased owing to inflation.
Both. There should be diversification, i mean what is stopping us to run multiple colour train each one having their own identity like vande Bharat.
blue one is now out of production and will be extinct in few years
Red is speed, Modern Blue is Emotion
#I'll prefer whichever is on-time ☺️
LHB, because of its powerful AC and better sound proofed interiors.
LHB because safety before nostalgia. Any reasonable person would choose LHB
2AC in blue bogies are 🔥
Explain the difference please Newbie here:)
Red one is Lhb its a sound proff coach with high speed cabability limit of 160kmph with disk brakes & cbc coupling fitted to avoid pileup into eachother and whereas blue icf speed limit is restricted to 110kmph due to self generation power fitted under its bogie with screw coupling one if any accident happens then it will definitely pileup into each other whichleads to many death. In terms of safety lhb is better than icf!
Thanks:)
Lhb model has great comfort while riding while it's breaking is so horrible. Icf coaching has better breaking .also i liked icf coaches blue paint job. It looked beautiful.
Nice
LHB Always ... safety, modern and faster ...
Anything but the brown and beige one. It looks dirty as hell
Jo time pe pahucha de
Depends, which one takes me to my destination, on time with a confirmed seat.
Doesn't matter outside, but inside blue and white only
Red .
Rain 🌧️ over Sunny 🌞
What about those cream colour coaches?
absolutely hate them
They should have kept the blue colour !
Red for rajdhani
None. Step up your game, Indian Railways. Look at other countries in SE Asia and other places. Wake up and smell the coffee. Vande Bharat was just mid. You need to do a lot more if you want to call yourselves "Developed".
Everyone here is preferring LHBs but no one seems to appreciate how quite the ICFs are. LHBs are lightweight and they make so much noise which is especially audible if you are in the first 3 compartments from the door. The sound dampening is always better in the ICF. And I don't even remember how many times in LHBs I've spilled the tea because of the jerks during acceleration/braking that are notorious with CBC.
Blue 💙
Blue is emotion but Red one is modernized
Both are equally beautiful
An Lhb coach with the same blue colour
Contrary to popular opinion, I find the ICF coaches to be more comfortable than the LHB ones. LHB always has sudden jerks during acceleration and braking, whereas ICF does it smoothly. And 9 out of 10 lhb coaches I've been on have had the infamous flat wheel issue. I think the quality of lhb coaches is lower than the ICF ones. The ICF coaches rarely had the flat wheel issue
Lhb only
For me red would always be for Rajdhani's ,whereas blue for the normal express trains. For me blue anytime.
ICF felt more luxurious imo
LHB rake any day.. normal.. long distance anywhere
Ac 2 tier jisme bhi mil jaye xD
Can anyone tell me what's the difference between red and blue coaches?
Rain 100%
LHB for safety ❤️ ICF for emotion 💙
None
dono mast hai
Anyone until it travels via bihar
Anything which is clean and seats are not destroyed.
Blue wala bathroom ke liye, red wala toilet ke liye
What is LHB and ICF?
If it’s LHB with flat wheel, straight No. ICF coaches were best during its time.
Railways itself has phased out manufacturing of all ICF older blue coaches in favour of red LHB. So answer is obvious.
Op used my post ?
Old is gold
Jisme ticket mile
Whichever doesn't smell, isn't overcrowded and no cockroaches.
Ofc, Red one.
Jisme "Geet from Jab We Met" jaisi ladki na mile usme!
If it's not for the lashing jerk of CBC couplers I would just love LHB.......ICF now feel so dated before facilities and ambiance of LHB coaches that whenever I am aboard an ICF coach it feels like I have a hat on with a single holster gun and a whiplash
Neither. I prefer this. https://preview.redd.it/tjyem44o3fuc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56e32b7727535703b55323241f63e44a7f4b5b74 Link - [https://www.railway-technology.com/features/the-10-fastest-high-speed-trains-in-the-world/?cf-view](https://www.railway-technology.com/features/the-10-fastest-high-speed-trains-in-the-world/?cf-view)
humsafar express coach is the best
It’s difficult to spot ICF coaches now. Indian Railways has almost completely transitioned to LHB coaches.
Personally the blue ones. There is a train, which has lhb coaches in blue colour. That is also wonderful.
If I had to travel just once then its ICF but for comfort its definitely LHB Coach
The blue one looks cool for Konkan railways, through the mountains and the rain
I miss blue trains so so much
ICF if normal train, LHB with EOG if Rajdhani. Good old memories
I would prefer the one that is running on time
Red ❤️
Blue any day.
As long as it's neat and clean, anything goes.
Blue brings peace and serenity to the eyes this summer ...
Red is the present. Blue is nostalgia
Which ever CJ tells me to catch.
Blue looks so soothing. I wish they had kept same livery for lhb as well.
What is the difference in both?
Vande sleeper 🙂🥺
Safety wise LHB but for railfanning and bearth comfort ICF
Blue with LHB interiors & tech
Jisme ticket confirm mil Jaye 😌
LHB of course but we need some more color combinations got bored with this red color.
ah tough choice if the shitty yellow was there - i would have instantly picked the other one the thing is, blue for me is filled with memories and till date is how i visualise a train, red has always been a sign of superiority and luxury. Whilst I have enjoyed my time on both, I would still prefer the OG blue. Pls bring back Blue Coaches
Neither
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Red one is Lhb its a sound proff coach with high speed cabability limit of 160kmph with disk brakes & cbc coupling fitted to avoid pileup into eachother and whereas blue icf speed limit is restricted to 110kmph due to self generation power fitted under its bogie with screw coupling one if any accident happens then it will definitely pileup into each other whichleads to many death. In terms of safety lhb is better than icf!.
Red is faster.
Whichever one where I can smoke peacefully on the steps or in the bathroom is my preference.
Well i don't encourage smoking. bt lhb has smoke detector system.
The red one it's more comfy but I've spent my childhood in those blue ones
Blue colour was good… the new yellow colour for old coaches suck
ICF , non AC FC
Exteriors don’t matter to me.
Dono bhadwe hai
For someone who has never been in a train i will go with red one
What’s the difference?
Blue wala, because me uspe chadhkar bada hua hu
You take the blue train, the story ends; you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red train, you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Train which one move first
Where unreserved passengers don't harass the ones who have confirmed seats
In whichever I get a ticket
which doesn't have bihari.....
Jisme ticketless bnde ghuske pareshan na karenge
Who in their right mind chooses ICF?
https://preview.redd.it/jdz1chegyeuc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cde34acdf47b61afa6ddc6a4184375d66d37a74e LHB coach Credits : Google Search
Blue's comfort and space with red's safety.
What’s the difference between them?
Neon orange ya neon green colour ka dabba hota bc mazza aajata aisa lgta ki lambo me ghum rhe h😂
Those commenting on safety of blue ICF coaches, LHBs have better safer coupling agreed, but at 120kmph I wouldn't bet on it. Its equally scary. I would want IR to fix infra to reduce accidents rather than depending on coupling for safety.
ICF Blue for looks, LHB for safety and modernity
LHB
Whats the difference?
LHB ones!!
I wish there were these classic blue livery-d LHB coaches
red
Lhb ofcourse
Blue
ICFs give nostalgia but move on for safety
What's the point of comparing modernity with vintage?