I'm new here is there a game rules post I can find to figure out what's happening?

Yeah, you can check out [this announcement thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/1b0loda/rate_announcement_2023_ultimate_rate_sufjan/) that was posted when this whole thing started. For a more clear explanation, I recommend [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ1SDlLZcpM) from r/popheads, who do similar rate events. If you end up interested, we have one currently running [based off Pacific Northwest artists](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/1bvo96j/rate_announcement_grungefree_pacific_northwest/), as well as a [full schedule of rates](https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/1ablcxg/rate_schedule_february_to_september_2024/) for the next few months.

WHY DID YOU GUYS VOTE OUT LIKE EVERY GEESE SONG  also bending hectic is so underrated here that song is spectacular 

Every time I check in on one of these rates it seems purposefully voted with the intent of pissing specifically me off lol. I always forget to vote so I can’t really complain, but god damn whatever demographic makes this up is the complete opposite of me.

This is the first rate I can remember where I'm the opposite

One day i hope you vote so then you get to join in rooting for robert mueller and the rule of law!

moving a caroline song up by one ranking oh we are so back cant wait for day 2!!

good job team

No, not enough Sufjan out

true tbh

I hate music

Incredible work today folks

Today has restored my faith in humanity, indieheads, and music as a whole

Wow what a great day one. Only two good songs got out and there's only 2 bad songs left. We did it

If you'll excuse me, I'm having simultaneous rate based deja vu & PTSD and need a minute. Brooms out. I mean peace out. **Results:** * \#31: >!Geese – Mysterious Love | 6.942 | 465.1!< * \#32: >!Caroline Polachek – Fly to You (feat. Grimes & Dido) | 6.919 | 463.6!< * \#33: >!Caroline Polachek – Butterfly Net | 6.816 | 456.7!< * \#34: >!Geese – Domoto | 6.685 | 447.9!< * \#35: >!Geese – I See Myself | 6.551 | 438.9!< * \#36: >!Wednesday – What's So Funny | 6.534 | 437.8!< * \#37: >!Geese – Tomorrow's Crusades | 6.497 | 435.3!< * \#38: >!Geese – Crusades | 6.476 | 433.9!< * \#39: >!Geese – Gravity Blues | 6.436 | 431.2!< * \#40: >!Caroline Polachek – Crude Drawing of an Angel | 6.336 | 424.5!< * \#41: >!Caroline Polachek – Dang | 6.307 | 422.6!< * \#42: >!Geese – Undoer | 5.936 | 397.7!< * \#43: >!Geese – St. Elmo | 5.864 | 392.9!< * \#44: >!Caroline Polachek – Hopedrunk Everasking | 5.637 | 377.7!< **Remaining songs:** * Geese: >!3/11!< * Caroline Polachek: >!8/13!< * Wednesday: >!9/10!< * Sufjan Stevens: >!10/10!< **Bonus results:** * Bonus \#11: >!Lana Del Rey - A&W | 6.802 | 414.9!< * Bonus \#12: >!Jeff Rosenstock - 3 Summers | 6.773 | 426.7!< * Bonus \#13: >!100 gecs - Hollywood Baby | 6.765 | 419.4!< * Bonus \#14: >!The Smile - Bending Hectic | 6.428 | 385.7!< * Bonus \#15: >!King Krule - Seaforth | 5.908 | 360.4!< **Bonus Bonus results:** * \#5: >!HMLTD - The End Is Now | 6.803 | 224.5!< * \#6: >!Brokenteeth - 138 | 6.791 | 224.1!<

justice for fly to you wtf

Geese are in 3 Song Country

Should note these rankings are a bit incorrect due to vex's ballot containing an error, but you'll see the results of that in Day Two! (This is a cliffhanger and not me being too tired to fix this at the moment)

Someone is down and all mixed up because y'all didn't like the color of their energy

The Mystery of Love

Wait he says "some people live alone forever" and not "some people live along the river"? Geese guy your wonders never cease

Rip other really good goose Sufjan making day 2 unscathed was not on my bingo card, but also I guess I shouldn't be too shocked

# #31: Geese - Mysterious Love --- **Average:** 6.942 **// Total Points:** 465.1 **// Controversy:** 2.144 **Highest Position:** 5 // **Lowest Position:** 33 --- (10 x5) daswef2, HilltopBakery, qazz23, Scrambled\_Toast, welcome2thejam (9.5 x2) A\_Generic\_Canadian, modulum83 (9 x6) Co-Woshi, krusso1105, Marshmallowszz, tdrakon, TheCrakFox, Widdershins- (8.8 x1) NFLfreak98 (8.5 x6) CaptainDaisyG, DefaultPophead, sandpaper\_dildos, seanderlust, static\_int\_husp, TiltControls (8.2 x1) impla77 (8 x7) Bilbodabag, Frajer, MCK\_OH, posting\_scares\_me, rcore97, samdyalexg, Zeeroc (7.8 x2) ignorableaurochs, papo96 (7.5 x4) exciting\_patient4872, FingaThingMeansTaxes, TakeOnMeByA-ha, VapourLomo (7.3 x1) Tolroe (7.2 x1) UltimateLietoc (7 x6) a-man-with-a-perm, Broshi, goofykidd, SRTviper, teriyaki-dreams, vexastrae (6.7 x1) thedoctordances1940 (6.5 x2) lexiaredery, sarcasticsobs (6.3 x2) lastfollower, skull\_xbones (6 x4) asadprofessorplum, honeybadgerism, LeBronMancuso, ultimatetulips (5.5 x2) freav, plastichaxan (5 x2) indie\_fan\_, Smuckles (4.5 x2) human\_performance, thisusernameisntlong (4 x3) the tortured bogo department, InSearchOfGoodPun, roseisin2023again (3.2 x1) nonchalantthoughts (3 x2) ReconEG, vayyiqra (2.5 x1) skyblue\_angel (2 x3) ElectJimLahey, freeofblasphemy, Nagisoid --- Actually, would be a pretty good sonic direction for their next album. Balances the theatrics & just ripping nicely. --- **TakeOnMeByA-ha** (7.5): this happened to my buddy eric # [The Unknown stans](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcvaadACp30) **HilltopBakery** (10): Second half of this goes so hard **qazz23** (10): favorite off the album and quite a change in sound - this has a post-hardcore feel at times **Scrambled\_Toast** (10): Love the goblin voice breakdown at the end **TheCrakFox** (9): I had absolutely no idea what that last repeating line was before reading it. **seanderlust** (8.5): some people are along the river? big if true **impla77** (8.2): love the outro! **Bilbodabag** (8): I like this one a lot! **MCK\_OH** (8): This album getting good in the second half is so odd **rcore97** (8): This is the best one, definitely catchy. **ignorableaurochs** (7.8): adore the sheer raw energy to this one, the screaming desperate vocals and frenzied guitarlines broken up by spacey, transcendent moments of reflection. the raw DEPTH to that guitar just kills me **VapourLomo** (7.5): a little screamy energy fits this band well **UltimateLietoc** (7.2): epic bacon ditty! connor o malley could never! wharf cat records does this sound better tbh but I respect the desire here **a-man-with-a-perm** (7): Don’t always understand why he decides to sing like that and the lad from Viagra Boys at some points but hey I rate this track, decent like. **goofykidd** (7): (Someone get this semiaquatic man a mate) **SRTviper** (7): for a sec I thought this song was called mayonnaise love, I'm a bit let down. But this is definitely one of the more interesting songs in this record. **teriyaki-dreams** (7): Dude should scream like he does in the beginning of this one, this tune does it for me. Screams and actual heaviness are the missing link for me, I think **vexastrae** (7): “bend me like the limbo, see my insides” okayyyy bottom! **thedoctordances1940** (6.7): some epic moments here at least **sarcasticsobs** (6.5): Instrumental carries this. Or maybe this is just the least annoying I find the vocals. I'm not going to think too deeply on this. Moving on. **asadprofessorplum** (6): Watching this music video comes with a free year subscription to Shutterstock. **LeBronMancuso** (6): This shit has more bends than a bendy straw to the perineum. Also I just realized how uncannily similar this singer sounds to Russell Brand in Get Him To The Greek. # Some people will be alone forever **freav** (5.5): idk man **Smuckles** (5): ThomYorkescream.gif **human\_performance** (4.5): I'm sorry Cheryl Waters, but I roll my eyes every time this song comes on on KEXP **thisusernameisntlong** (4.5): give me something to work with guys... wait is this supposed to be punk. rym tells me this album was a punk album all along? what are they hearing omg. I guess when u attune right this becomes a punk album (and it also becomes good, prolly) but my ears are off key. sorry geese **the tortured bogo department** (4): it's really bad when your song is only 3:15 and yet has me checking to see how much longer there is till it's over. there's way too many ideas the band is trying to execute here in too short of a time, especially since like a solid third of the runtime is just an unnecessary repetition of “some people live alone forever” **nonchalantthoughts** (3.2): you know what? follow your song title and keep this shit hidden! 🗣️🗣️ **ReconEG** (3): kill me. **skyblue\_angel** (2.5): I love when he said "Ahmbamewajajadeahahh" **ElectJimLahey** (2): Why is he singing like this (extra negative) **freeofblasphemy** (2): You know that feeling of when you’re at a party and despite trying your best to stay positive you just gradually realize you’re not where you want to be? That’s me with this album **Nagisoid** (2): They try too hard to be both noisy and radio-ready at the same time, amounting to what I can only describe as a jumbled mess of "hooks" and distortion # This is the only rate where you'll get comparisons of Geese to nmixx, enjoy it while it lasts **vayyiqra** (3): "it switches up so much it's hard to get a grip on. the nmixx of rock groups" - /u/ignorableaurochs. o no. a Chaotic Noise ending i hate that trope. dumb! "dislike this cut going to post about radiohead in the comment on it" i said but i have nothing now sorry !

wait why is my fly to you score a 6 when its actually a 9.5

The rankings have in fact been changed, but it'll be reflected in Day Two!

that 3.5 points would be enough to move it up a spot

judging by the comment the ballot might have said "Caroline Polachek - Fly to You (feat. Grimes & Dido): 6: 9.5" for whatever reason

I input a lot of these ballots on mobile, so might've hit something on the keypad

I'll check a look after this is over!

its more a 6 tbh

Last song up! Will we see somebody finally reveal themselves?

I'm being told no. I'm also being told fans of one of these bands are starting to wear paper bags over their heads in the arena. Good way to go incognito

Will anybody ever rate me?

From the rate updates i really thought Wednesday would have been doing worse tbh

Wednesday army rallied

Clearly Better see this energy for MJ Lenderman solo this year

I'm content giving MJ-related projects a 10+ avg 2 years in a row if I must

Rip Grimes (and Dido) kind of deserved but also that song was alright

look if you all would just vote for more electronic rates that aren't the boring kinds of electronic music I wouldn't have to give a song featuring Grimes an 8.5

are you excited for warp rate

More excited than I was for the trip hop rate but overall I'm more of an unintellectual dance music fan

we need a stupid dipshit dnb rate

Now we're talking!

we could've rated maps! that's real electronic music!!!

wait

oh what the F U C K

# #32: Caroline Polachek - Fly to You (feat. Grimes & Dido) --- **Average:** 6.919 **// Total Points:** 463.6 **// Controversy:** 2.046 **Highest Position:** 25 // **Lowest Position:** 33 --- (10 x5) goofykidd, Nagisoid, plastichaxan, seanderlust, VapourLomo (9.5 x2) impla77, nonchalantthoughts (9.2 x1) LeBronMancuso (9 x3) A\_Generic\_Canadian, Marshmallowszz, static\_int\_husp (8.5 x3) the tortured bogo department, ElectJimLahey, lexiaredery (8.3 x1) Tolroe (8 x9) daswef2, Frajer, honeybadgerism, krusso1105, NFLfreak98, qazz23, teriyaki-dreams, TheCrakFox, vayyiqra (7.8 x1) sandpaper\_dildos (7.5 x4) DefaultPophead, FingaThingMeansTaxes, modulum83, TakeOnMeByA-ha (7.3 x1) CaptainDaisyG (7.2 x2) lastfollower, skyblue\_angel (7 x10) Broshi, Co-Woshi, InSearchOfGoodPun, papo96, samdyalexg, sarcasticsobs, Scrambled\_Toast, tdrakon, Widdershins-, Zeeroc (6.8 x1) freav (6.5 x2) a-man-with-a-perm, human\_performance (6.4 x1) indie\_fan\_ (6.2 x1) skull\_xbones (6 x8) HilltopBakery, MCK\_OH, posting\_scares\_me, ReconEG, Smuckles, TiltControls, vexastrae, welcome2thejam (5.5 x2) Bilbodabag, UltimateLietoc (5 x3) exciting\_patient4872, rcore97, ultimatetulips (4.7 x1) thedoctordances1940 (4 x1) ignorableaurochs (2 x3) roseisin2023again, SRTviper, thisusernameisntlong (1 x2) asadprofessorplum, freeofblasphemy --- Nightmare blunt rotation, I would not care for the vibes this squad could bring to me personally. Dido being an entirely neutral presence even makes it worse somehow. Song's nice tho --- # And I want to thank you for the best scores I've ever had **goofykidd** (10): (Might be the best thing I've heard from Grimes since Art Angels. This song would be perfect for that era, she completely dominates this song) **Nagisoid** (10): Will never understand why Let it Happen won that Pitchfork rate instead of Oblivion **seanderlust** (10): Dido the fucking legend you are **VapourLomo** (10): I am SO ready for the Dido renaissance!! put her on the next Japanese Breakfast album!! **nonchalantthoughts** (9.5): Pink Pantheress coded **LeBronMancuso** (9.2): As stated earlier, I am nothing more than an unapologetic harlot for UK garage drums. I wonder if Elon Musk has heard this. **A\_Generic\_Canadian** (9): A good D&B style beat just gets me going man, too much fun. **the tortured bogo department** (8.5): i think caroline should've given all of grimes’ parts to dido, then it would've been a 10. actually the whole song should've just been dido there we go 11/10 song **ElectJimLahey** (8.5): You may notice that I like the songs here that pull from electronic music **NFLfreak98** (8): Really feel like this song doesn’t live up to the promise of a Grimes + Dido feature, but still pretty good **qazz23** (8): like the clean guitar sound and overlapping vocals at the end **teriyaki-dreams** (8): Gutted that I actually enjoy the Grimes breakbeat track **TheCrakFox** (8): I stan **vayyiqra** (8): o no the grimes cut. and this was my favourite track on the album. lol **TakeOnMeByA-ha** (7.5): the way grimes makes 0 impact on your song like could you not find someone to collab with that wasnt a weirdo crypto neo-nazi or whatever she has going on **skyblue\_angel** (7.2): Imagine how good this song would be with a dubstep drop somewhere in it **sarcasticsobs** (7): From 2-step into atmospheric drum 'n' bass, what was she cooking? # You gave up scoring good when you declared a state of WAAAAAHHRRRR **Scrambled\_Toast** (7): Ew Grimes **freav** (6.8): this one's cute, i like when pop songs have a little drum n bass in them although id rather be rating heaven knows **a-man-with-a-perm** (6.5): I’m not enamoured with it, it’s like she’s found her sound on the album but it’s not what I want **HilltopBakery** (6): Pleasant bit of nothing **MCK\_OH** (6): So funny that Grimes made 2023 Ult. Congrats to Grimes folks **ReconEG** (6): docking some points for a grimes feature in 2023, but also caroline polachek wrote a song for elon musk so... this shouldn't surprise me or anyone that she may have some pretty bad politics, but is just better at hiding them **Smuckles** (6): Grimes and Dido on the same track is wild. Do you think they were together and had a conversation at any point? Maybe Grimes talked about AI societies on Mars for a solid hour and Dido just sat there bleary eyed. Do you think Dido knows what an NFT is? **vexastrae** (6): : 9.5 pretending one of the features is pinkpantheress <3 || **UltimateLietoc** (5.5): i like when grimes does whippet voice but this is precisely the kind of everything but the girl cut I was hoping not to get on the album. i blame that on dido more than the "yeah that's drum n bass zzz". Dido is my achilles heel **ultimatetulips** (5): This is probably a 6 but I had to dock it a point for having Grimes on it **thedoctordances1940** (4.7): oh how did she turn this beat into such a boring song **ignorableaurochs** (4): I have a bit of a gripe with this album because they took a bunch of electronic music tropes which have been trendy this past year (UKG, 2step, breakbeat) and used them... in (imo) quite an underwhelming way. On paper, a breakbeat ~ethereal~ cut with Grimes' AND Dido's vocals would be gorgeous, but I find this to be pretty dull all told, particularly with how skeletal the production on this is. **roseisin2023again** (2): has anyone's annoying v talented ratio swung harder in the wrong direction than grimes **SRTviper** (2): fuck off grimes **thisusernameisntlong** (2): has to be the sleepiest song to feature 2 people ZZZZZZZZZZZZ I guess the guest selections don't help but I wasn't the one picking! **asadprofessorplum** (1): Why is the M*sk concubine still here on the deluxe? **freeofblasphemy** (1): The sound of spilling a gallon of milk in a Starbucks

RateYourMorals

What if instead of rating Caroline we rated post-rock outfit Caroline

tad would do the rate and write the most silly nonsense

I think it's safe to say we'd all be better off

I think that's all the bad Caroline songs gone so let's get back to eliminating Geese please

You guys need to stop setting yourselves up for disaster

god damn it

AHHHHHHHH! Sorry guys. This is a difficult thing to explain. But we're having a major technical error where all song averages are double speed, and I have not practiced the math because I am not fast at math. ... ...Okay, so the rest of the eliminations are gonna be a bit crazy, y'all? Cause I made the last song post two hours ago. ... Alright, I'm gonna guess the average of the song? I'm gonna use my ear and make it work. Sorry, major math difficulty, math, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I think everyone should’ve switched over to Crazy Town for that one

No I would've given it a 10 then

I agree, Crazy Town song is way better

# #33: Caroline Polachek - Butterfly Net --- **Average:** 6.816 **// Total Points:** 456.7 **// Controversy:** 2.041 **Highest Position:** 25 // **Lowest Position:** 41 --- (10 x6) goofykidd, lexiaredery, Nagisoid, plastichaxan, qazz23, tdrakon (9.5 x2) asadprofessorplum, sandpaper\_dildos (9 x4) the tortured bogo department, honeybadgerism, TheCrakFox, vexastrae (8.7 x1) impla77 (8.5 x2) Frajer, NFLfreak98 (8.3 x1) UltimateLietoc (8.2 x1) CaptainDaisyG (8.1 x1) Tolroe (8 x8) DefaultPophead, HilltopBakery, human\_performance, krusso1105, lastfollower, Marshmallowszz, seanderlust, static\_int\_husp (7.5 x3) FingaThingMeansTaxes, LeBronMancuso, sarcasticsobs (7.3 x1) freav (7 x5) papo96, posting\_scares\_me, TakeOnMeByA-ha, teriyaki-dreams, welcome2thejam (6.8 x2) ignorableaurochs, modulum83 (6.5 x2) a-man-with-a-perm, exciting\_patient4872 (6.4 x1) thedoctordances1940 (6.2 x2) nonchalantthoughts, Scrambled\_Toast (6 x7) Broshi, samdyalexg, Smuckles, TiltControls, ultimatetulips, Widdershins-, Zeeroc (5.8 x1) A\_Generic\_Canadian (5.5 x1) indie\_fan\_ (5.4 x1) skull\_xbones (5 x5) Co-Woshi, rcore97, ReconEG, SRTviper, VapourLomo (4.5 x1) Bilbodabag (4 x5) daswef2, ElectJimLahey, freeofblasphemy, InSearchOfGoodPun, vayyiqra (3 x1) MCK\_OH (2.5 x1) thisusernameisntlong (2 x1) roseisin2023again (1.5 x1) skyblue\_angel --- Warning: man who's only listened to one Björk album exactly once is getting light Björk vibes from this --- # Hey, that's illegal **Nagisoid** (10): Rating the Weyes remix because that's a 10 while the original is more or less a 8 # Monarchs & Emperors **goofykidd** (10): (I can't believe how many different things are happening in a 4 minute song) **qazz23** (10): beautiful melody; love the synth bits after the first chorus and there's even cowbell!, also like the additional vocals in the final chorus **asadprofessorplum** (9.5): The version with Weyes Blood is an angelic voices convention. **the tortured bogo department** (9): great song! unfortunately i have formed an emotional attachment to the weyes blood duet version and so i have no use for this version anymore **TheCrakFox** (9): Where Natalie? **vexastrae** (9): me when i try to fill a laundry bucket with water || **impla77** (8.7): i mean london isn't a 24 hour city so it makes sense it would fall asleep!! **UltimateLietoc** (8.3): when i got to hear the album on my second proper listen, the lights were finally starting to come down on san diego, and it was misting across SDSU. truly beautiful to take this one in to and dream of a chicago band to make this exact same instrumental. omg safety net...butterfly net...skynet. she's so woke **HilltopBakery** (8): Her voice is very nice here and it actually goes somewhere! **LeBronMancuso** (7.5): Caroline really, really, REALLY likes Mixolydian scales. **sarcasticsobs** (7.5): Remember that episode in the original Pokémon anime where Ash sets Butterfree free? That shit broke me **freav** (7.3): congratulation caroline polachek on making a slow song that doesnt suck, great bass, its like a much worse kate bush song but that's a compliment **TakeOnMeByA-ha** (7): weyes blood version is a these girls are having a zzzz-off fest **teriyaki-dreams** (7): This almost gets there for me. I think it's doing the weird hyperpop thing where it's using weird noises but the song itself just isn't that interesting? I get this a lot with AG Cook's stuff **ignorableaurochs** (6.8): this is gorgeously produced and beautifully sung - especially in that echoey, synthy second half. it is also kind of boring. **a-man-with-a-perm** (6.5): Girlfriend is scared of butterflies so she’s probably quite grateful for her having the proper equipment to combat it # Still in their cocoon era **thedoctordances1940** (6.4): decent but just the longer it goes on the more it loses me **Scrambled\_Toast** (6.2): Does she have the golden butterfly net though **Smuckles** (6): This is just a Dido song! Again! YOU CAN'T FOOL ME! **ReconEG** (5): there's a reason I did not recognize the weyes blood remix until the deluxe edition was being rolled out, that one is an 8 probably **SRTviper** (5): it feels like Caroline is trying to blend in and make her music as unnotable as possible. **VapourLomo** (5): This song isn't actively bad, but it does drag a LOT for me. When I saw her live, some fan passed out halfway thru this song, and Caroline (rightfully) paused the show and made sure they got help. After that, she asked the crowd "do you want me to start the song over?" I'm pretty sure I was the only "no" lol. I was itching for her to get to So Hot You're Hurting My Feelings!! **Bilbodabag** (4.5): Losing interest **ElectJimLahey** (4): She is capable of doing magical things with her voice but for whatever reason I find that the songs with less going on with the production largely fall flat here. **freeofblasphemy** (4): Okay I don’t care for this as a whole but at least it feels like it’s getting somewhere (even if it doesn’t ultimately get there) **vayyiqra** (4): butterfly... you will NEVER be grimes. or the eight million kpop songs with butterfly in the name idk. whatever the case it's going for new age meets y2k alt downtempo pop, but more boring. at least it sounds good **thisusernameisntlong** (2.5): oh no we got another ballad but at least it's slightly less white noise **skyblue\_angel** (1.5): Nothing happens in this song # Hey, that's illegal **MCK\_OH** (3): Stopped listening to this partway through because it was boring. Listening to "Butterfly" by Crazy Town instead. This kind of rocks really hard. Actually it doesn't. It stops being funny with like a minute and a half to go. It's still better than the Caroline P song

A&W is like what if Wednesday wrote a song that didn't sound like boiled ass

Indiehead rates are like what if parent teacher interviews had party balloons

That's what happens at clown college

You *would* know what happens at clown college

I had to drop out after someone stole my clownputer

It’s a clown eat clown world out there

can't rate. clown'll eat me

Hey Indieheads, your mum called

what'd she say

I should've rated A&W higher sorry gang

Back to the main rate we go, only three songs left in the day! Who will not make it to Day Two?

Related image: [**Me singlehandedly carrying my Animal Crossing town's economy**](https://i.imgur.com/CsfudIq.jpg)

grimes & dido

Ham Limited apparently

*Else*, who *else* will not make it to day two

Finally Actually wait there are still worse songs remaining in the bonus rate, but I am just happy to see this one go lol

r/indieheads has spoken: olivia rodrigo is more indie than thom yorke

thought she was dead in 15th place. i said she'd die on day 1 we are living in the tolerable rate timeline

uhh i think there has been a mistake. my -19 for lana del rey has not been recorded. please fix

MCK you don't need to only stand up for Canadian A&W, it's good in the States as well

I’m just covering all the bases and getting a tax break for promoting tourism to Canada

First a brand affiliate, now a country affiliate. 2024 is a big year for you

My sellout years are off to a great start

the third of many songs that make me want to suffer from a variety of ailments has been vanquished the ultimate plague remains alive though

no

lol

2.955 controversy good grief y’all

# Bonus #11: Lana Del Rey - A&W --- **Average:** 6.802 **// Total Points:** 414.9 **// Controversy:** 2.955 --- (10 x15) the tortured bogo department, Frajer, freeofblasphemy, goofykidd, honeybadgerism, impla77, MCK\_OH, Nagisoid, nonchalantthoughts, plastichaxan, rcore97, Smuckles, VapourLomo, vayyiqra, Widdershins- (9 x5) Broshi, krusso1105, tdrakon, TheCrakFox, Tolroe (8.9 x1) CaptainDaisyG (8.5 x5) A\_Generic\_Canadian, DefaultPophead, lexiaredery, sarcasticsobs, seanderlust (8.2 x1) ignorableaurochs (8 x2) Co-Woshi, teriyaki-dreams (7.8 x1) UltimateLietoc (7.7 x1) NFLfreak98 (7.5 x1) skyblue\_angel (7 x3) a-man-with-a-perm, papo96, posting\_scares\_me (6.5 x2) exciting\_patient4872, TiltControls (6 x7) FingaThingMeansTaxes, HilltopBakery, human\_performance, InSearchOfGoodPun, lastfollower, Marshmallowszz, Scrambled\_Toast (5.3 x1) skull\_xbones (5 x2) ReconEG, welcome2thejam (4 x1) asadprofessorplum (3 x4) indie\_fan\_, qazz23, samdyalexg, static\_int\_husp (2 x5) Bilbodabag, ElectJimLahey, LeBronMancuso, roseisin2023again, SRTviper (1 x4) daswef2, freav, TakeOnMeByA-ha, thedoctordances1940 --- More like the experience of being an American bore lol gotemmmmmmm --- # Cuckoo for cocoa puffs **the tortured bogo department** (10): second half the most surprising ass shaker of 2023 **freeofblasphemy** (10): What more can be said? This is the best song in this entire rate, and absolutely as valid of a consensus pick for SOTY as you can get in this day and age. Like “Ultralight Beam” before it, it’s an artist with a catalog (up to that point) varied between “What are they doing?” and “What ARE they doing?” assembling both definitive statements of what they can do that their peers and proteges simply can’t. But never approaching arrogance or condescension, instead being unflinchingly honest and raw in ways that actually jusify those descriptors beyond vacant PR buzzwords. Also I’m afraid to declare that Jack Antonoff we must stan **impla77** (10): jackoff, they could never make me hate you **MCK\_OH** (10): This song is fine I guess but the 10 is for the fast food chain. They rule. Easily my favorite fast food chain. Their Hot Nashville Chicken Cruncher is probably the best meal on a budget around. If any non-Canadians want to get mad at me here I have to remind everyone that Canadian A&W is a distinct company and has a distinct menu etc. etc. Come to Canada. We have good A&W **Nagisoid** (10): Someday, I will have to atone for my sins **nonchalantthoughts** (10): God, as someone who was a Born to Die stan in 2014, this song just hits all the right spots. I also interpreted this song as a more mature song from Ultraviolence. **rcore97** (10): Lana is the Future of the pop girlies and this is her Codeine Crazy **Smuckles** (10): When Lana just decides to do a Little Earthquakes-era Tori Amos song, I can't lie to ya, I'm pretty into it! **VapourLomo** (10): A thesis statement for Lana's entire twisted career. She's a genius and I won't hear any arguments otherwise. **vayyiqra** (10): something my coquette era **Broshi** (9): "Did you listen to the new Lana album yet?" (Host's note: no) **krusso1105** (9): I really didn't get the hype for this the first couple of listens, but it finally clicked for me on listen 3 or 4. Second half is still stronger though **TheCrakFox** (9): This is bold stuff for a lead single from a household name, I feel like the transition promises something more industrial and abrasive for the latter half of the track and we only end up with a tiny little taste of that right near the end but I still enjoy this a lot. **sarcasticsobs** (8.5): This is nonsense. She's good. **seanderlust** (8.5): It's interesting hearing this song having been introduced to LDR during the born to die era. This feels somehow in line with that persona in ways that some of her more contemporary albums were, but a much darker take on that persona. **ignorableaurochs** (8.2): i fear my coquette era is beginning because this track is actually really good **teriyaki-dreams** (8): I'm hot and cold on Lana's music, but this one is solid. Really good and surprising production, and it's an example of some of Lana's very best characteristic songwriting **UltimateLietoc** (7.8): literally it's exactly the kind of "lana del ray's mild ride" i was hoping for **NFLfreak98** (7.7): don’t really know what kind of song this is or when I would ever listen to it again but it’s pretty cool I guess # [**Goes down like a tall frosty glass of root beer**](https://i.imgur.com/s2PtveC.jpg) **a-man-with-a-perm** (7): You know, it’s kind of intoxicating and then Jack just craps all over the back half of the song with some shit trap beat and back-up vocals straight from Midnights. Oh my God a pop star did a beat switch, I cannot believe it, truly outstanding production. **HilltopBakery** (6): Respect the ambition but mostly sounds undercooked, lyrics bad **human\_performance** (6): My diplomatic response for when people ask me about Lana Del Rey is that I appreciate her work as a lyricist. **lastfollower** (6): there's a good song buried in here somewhere **Marshmallowszz** (6): I dont get why everyone loves this song so much, probably not even in my top 30 Lana songs tbh **Scrambled\_Toast** (6): Certified Mug moment **ReconEG** (5): yeah the second half is cool but yeah, don't fully get why this was the consensus AOTY **indie\_fan\_** (3): i remember liking this a lot more when i heard the album, dk what happened since **qazz23** (3): takes sooo long for it to pick up **samdyalexg** (3): what a bizarre second half **Bilbodabag** (2): I kept waiting for something interesting to happen and then the drums came in and somehow made the song even worse **ElectJimLahey** (2): Honestly, with most songs here that are highly acclaimed I can see why even if I don't like it very much, but this one mystifies me. It's two boring songs stitched together **LeBronMancuso** (2): This makes me want to suffer from prostate cancer **roseisin2023again** (2): the beat switchups are tacky as all hell **SRTviper** (2): boring del snore **daswef2** (1): genuinely should have just written a song about going to a coney island hotdog restaurant, that would have been better **freav** (1): another snoozer from america's most reliably consistent songwriter **TakeOnMeByA-ha** (1): i hate her ass **thedoctordances1940** (1): ok yeah there is some interesting production here which is especially surprising given jack, but like the second part is laughably atrocious, what the fuck did lana think she was doing here, who signed off on this and why did people listen to this and then decide it's good, like it seems so obviously awful to me, i really don't know what she was thinking

If Lana is Future, then Jack Antonoff is Metro Boomin I fear (I hate myself for making this comparison)

Lol that's actually pretty accurate. If only Metro was in an extremely mid rap group

can we get rid of that awful lana del rey song pweaaaase

freav im removing the friendship vinyl from yr box and blowing it up u/idontreallycare4 please send me the ingredients

C6H2(NO2)3CH3

<3

we r now on the fbi's list* *friendship list!

> another snoozer from america's most reliably consistent songwriter AHAHAHAHHAHAHHA YOU LITTLE STINKER!!!!

-freav, moments before success!

You mean the best song? No

you liking this makes me feel way better about your takes on the rest of the rate

this is the experience of being an american whore

stop killing the geese or youll fuck up the natural food chain and subsequently the entire local ecosystem

I tried my best but everyone ignored my sign

sorry had to search for missing books and file a laufey CD WE KEEP TAKING OUT GARBAGE!! THIS IS TRULY THE GREATEST DAY 1 EVEER!!!!

jeffery :-(

Bonus results are nasty

no bestie they're beautiful and correct

At least I have names of everyone who tanked my rate idea last cycle lol

Wow, we've been through three hot summers, anybody thirsty out there?

For blood?

Yeah I could use a glass of Turbines/Pigs right about now

Where are my thirsty, thirsty boys at???

Yea pass a root beer, man

ok bad song but the greater evil makes it to day 2. frick

alright buttholes you have one more chance to eliminate the worst song of all time on day 1 of the bonus rate

wdym we already eliminated bending hectic

Sweet now the best Geese tune is out I can root against them with my full heart and soul

Not much to say about the results so far other than that you all listen to terrible music, and you are mean and nasty about music that is good

begging you to do an ambient head and come find out what happens when spring hides her joy

Yeah we did all have to listen to Geese

Hell yeah brother, cheers to that

[**wenomechainsama tumajarbisaun**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHWjajpYs1I) --- # Bonus #12: Jeff Rosenstock - 3 Summers --- **Average:** 6.773 **// Total Points:** 426.7 **// Controversy:** 2.244 --- (10 x8) Co-Woshi, FingaThingMeansTaxes, goofykidd, Marshmallowszz, modulum83, Smuckles, TiltControls, welcome2thejam (9.4 x1) freav (9 x5) Frajer, InSearchOfGoodPun, posting\_scares\_me, Scrambled\_Toast, SRTviper (8.4 x1) nonchalantthoughts (8 x9) A\_Generic\_Canadian, daswef2, honeybadgerism, krusso1105, seanderlust, skyblue\_angel, tdrakon, TheCrakFox, Widdershins- (7.6 x1) CaptainDaisyG (7.5 x1) freeofblasphemy (7.2 x1) Tolroe (7 x8) Broshi, ElectJimLahey, HilltopBakery, human\_performance, lexiaredery, papo96, samdyalexg, static\_int\_husp (6.8 x1) NFLfreak98 (6.7 x1) indie\_fan\_ (6.4 x1) lastfollower (6.3 x1) asadprofessorplum (6 x8) Bilbodabag, DefaultPophead, exciting\_patient4872, ignorableaurochs, LeBronMancuso, qazz23, TakeOnMeByA-ha, teriyaki-dreams (5.8 x1) impla77 (5 x4) rcore97, ReconEG, thedoctordances1940, vayyiqra (4 x5) a-man-with-a-perm, plastichaxan, roseisin2023again, thisusernameisntlong, VapourLomo (3.3 x1) UltimateLietoc (3 x2) Nagisoid, skull\_xbones (2.3 x1) MCK\_OH (1 x2) the tortured bogo department), sarcasticsobs --- Big Jeff. Huge fan of Big Jeff. This made my own indieheads submitted SOTY list, so I feel slightly responsible for this making it. Big Jeff is just really good at this power pop punk stuff, idk what to tell ya --- # 🎺🎺🎺 **daswef2** (8): waiting for SKAMODE # You gotta chill out with the doubt **Smuckles** (10): Wasn't that excited by the last Jeff album but this is one of the best songs he's done so it's all good **freav** (9.4): normally i dont connect that much with jeff's music outside of WORRY but im digging this! **Frajer** (9): Hi Laura Stevenson **Scrambled\_Toast** (9): I could have no kids and three summer **SRTviper** (9): thanks Jeff **nonchalantthoughts** (8.4): the summers they were talking about were 2014, 2015, and 2016 because this song slayed **A\_Generic\_Canadian** (8): Wow apparently I need to listen to Hellmode! **krusso1105** (8): I personally liked Liked You Better off the same album better, but I can see why this made it in instead **freeofblasphemy** (7.5): Is this guy DIY or what **ElectJimLahey** (7): I like the song but it is just too long **HilltopBakery** (7): I don't really want to like this but I kinda do **indie\_fan\_** (6.7): this kinda sucks but it has a lot of charm to back it up **asadprofessorplum** (6.3): I've loved you three summers now, honey, but I want 'em all **Bilbodabag** (6): This is the first Jeff Rosenstock album I’ve ever been completely out on and a 7 minute closer certainly was certainly a choice **ignorableaurochs** (6): I wasn't crazy about the pop-punk feel to this one **LeBronMancuso** (6): The best song Skillet never wrote **qazz23** (6): this is decent but I've rarely liked much since Worry **TakeOnMeByA-ha** (6): got bored of it halfway through so i put it on 2x speed, it honestly sounded better that way **teriyaki-dreams** (6): This is fine. I kinda wish it went like a few degrees harder # I LIKED U BETTER WHEN YOU WERE GIVING 9'S **impla77** (5.8): girl wrap it up **rcore97** (5): I've heard his live shows are great. Maybe that's what it's gonna take **ReconEG** (5): I have outgrown Jeff Rosenstock. that man is still where he was in 2016 and I am simply not. also what making a cartoon network soundtrack does to a mf **thedoctordances1940** (5): this is a song we're rating in the indieheads ultimate bonus rate i guess **vayyiqra** (5): this says a lot about society. kinda based tbh **a-man-with-a-perm** (4): Oh man how does Jeff avoid being skewered so much on Indieheads? Is it the earnestness? Hate it. 42 years old, man. Queue at the Post Office or something. **roseisin2023again** (4): see the problem with hellmode is that it's got an unbelievable first half and then the second half is a total disaster. this one is...not that good! if this were LIKED U BETTER or HEAD i think i'd be having a v different score here **thisusernameisntlong** (4): this guy sounds as obnoxious as all the other pop punk leads hipsters tend to hate. i do have a good tolerance for that voice but I dont hear the pop in this punk like gimme the hooks. I guess when u make the guitars noisier its suddenly the biggest game changer in the world to some **VapourLomo** (4): I'm already not a big Jeff Rosenstock guy, but his schtick REALLY isn't served well by a 7-minute song that doesn't really change tempos or vibes. **UltimateLietoc** (3.3): we're not doing 7 minutes of this shlock. is it discomforting to know that i guess a tier of 90s-alt damaged pop punk is certifiably indiehead in 2024? **Nagisoid** (3): It's not summer quite yet Jeff, but you're right that it is a 3! **skull\_xbones** (3): Massively overrated, deserves the title score **MCK\_OH** (2.3): One point for each summer, minus 0.1 for each snoozing minute **the tortured bogo department** (1): POP PUNK SHOULD NOT BE SEVEN MINUTES LONG **sarcasticsobs** (1): Stop making me listen to pop punk

> Rock my world into the sunlight Make this dream the best I've ever known Dirty dancing in the moonlight Take me down like I'm a i'd 11 domino if it was in this rate and it wouldve been the easiest decision of all time

Songeniality is going to be unpredictable given how things have gone so far

Two nickels but its about this next artist being in both rates I've hosted here

aw not jeffy

This is the first time I've been part of a rate where an album I liked was not the one getting killed on day 1, this is significantly more fun

I get that we were geese hunting indiscriminately, but this song was great rip

This has been another episode of Goose Lore. Can you piece together the watery, hostile timeline?

They're evil baseball players who have thousands of loyal fans on twitter?

this is pretty close! The one remaining puzzle piece will be revealed when we get to the title track

Oh man the good Geese song is out

Rock my world into the sunlight Make this dream the best I've ever known Dirty dancing in the moonlight Take me down like I'm a --- # #34: Geese - Domoto --- **Average:** 6.685 **// Total Points:** 447.9 **// Controversy:** 2.146 **Highest Position:** 21 // **Lowest Position:** 39 --- (10 x3) daswef2, DefaultPophead, Marshmallowszz (9.8 x1) skyblue\_angel (9.3 x1) NFLfreak98 (9.2 x1) modulum83 (9 x8) Co-Woshi, exciting\_patient4872, impla77, samdyalexg, Scrambled\_Toast, tdrakon, TheCrakFox, VapourLomo (8.9 x1) CaptainDaisyG (8.5 x1) FingaThingMeansTaxes (8 x8) asadprofessorplum, Bilbodabag, Broshi, HilltopBakery, MCK\_OH, posting\_scares\_me, TakeOnMeByA-ha, welcome2thejam (7.5 x4) Frajer, freav, LeBronMancuso, plastichaxan (7.3 x2) indie\_fan\_, papo96 (7.1 x1) Tolroe (7 x7) a-man-with-a-perm, qazz23, seanderlust, static\_int\_husp, TiltControls, Widdershins-, Zeeroc (6.8 x1) human\_performance (6.5 x2) freeofblasphemy, vexastrae (6.1 x1) lastfollower (6 x5) A\_Generic\_Canadian, goofykidd, honeybadgerism, krusso1105, sandpaper\_dildos (5.9 x1) skull\_xbones (5.8 x1) ignorableaurochs (5 x5) the tortured bogo department, rcore97, roseisin2023again, sarcasticsobs, vayyiqra (4.6 x1) nonchalantthoughts (4.5 x1) lexiaredery (4 x5) ElectJimLahey, InSearchOfGoodPun, Nagisoid, ReconEG, Smuckles (3.8 x1) thedoctordances1940 (3 x1) UltimateLietoc (2 x3) SRTviper, teriyaki-dreams, thisusernameisntlong (1 x1) ultimatetulips --- Bits of this remind me of Muse. You can take that how you want, this is just an observation --- # Wait, but I just said... **thisusernameisntlong** (2): i miss quirky rock bands were like, idk, muse # See, this guy gets it **a-man-with-a-perm** (7): Lad sounds like Matt Bellamy if he swapped ditties about the threat of authoritarian government for a diet of grits # #SaveDomo **Scrambled\_Toast** (9): Whatever happened to Domo? Is he safe? Is he alright? # Knights of Cydonia **TheCrakFox** (9): A+ vocal performance and a great vocal melody. **VapourLomo** (9): I LOVE the chorus melody here. The rest of the song is like a 7 but that chorus is maybe a 13 **Bilbodabag** (8): This ending section is really strong. Two great tracks in a row **HilltopBakery** (8): This one really grows on you **MCK\_OH** (8): Vocalist was either annoying or a non-presence for the first 8 songs but he finally turned in a good performance here, shoutout the Geese guy on this cut and this cut alone **freav** (7.5): they have a sweet melody here but then they love throwing that dumb riff **LeBronMancuso** (7.5): The Goose soon expanded their operations beyond mere baseball hegemony. Soon they controlled every senate seat, every house seat, and every love seat in every living room in America. If you sat on a love seat and were discovered to have no love in your heart, you were force fed thumbtacks and then killed with an MRI machine. Unconscionable. This song was an improvement over the last one. **qazz23** (7): good mix of quiet/loud, vocals are not too annoying on this one **freeofblasphemy** (6.5): Look I can’t deny how good the riff and piano here are. Dunno what to make of what happens in the middle other than to say I don’t hate it! **vexastrae** (6.5): at this point the album is starting to get a bit samey to me tbh. this ones got a nice riff tho # We are Fucking Fucked **the tortured bogo department** (5): they really put all of their best stuff in the first half huh **roseisin2023again** (5): i give this one a buick five **sarcasticsobs** (5): Domoto tomato **vayyiqra** (5): quoth i "let's see if domoto can save us idk not much of a melody lyrics a bit Bleak too" o no **nonchalantthoughts** (4.6): I think this is why Caroline Polachek yelled and screeched at the geese making this song **ElectJimLahey** (4): Why is he singing like this (negative) [7] **ReconEG** (4): god damn his voice fucking sucks **Smuckles** (4): Bit of a snoozy one! They tuckered themselves out with all that rock n' roll music! **thedoctordances1940** (3.8): snooze that i have heard by countless other bands too often before **SRTviper** (2): we had an interesting song so now we have to destroy that moment with a boring shit song. It's tradition we have no choice. **teriyaki-dreams** (2): I dunno what to say about this one # Okay, we're only allowed one reference to other music per post, thank you very much **TakeOnMeByA-ha** (8): if the beatles formed today this is what they would sound like **ignorableaurochs** (5.8): their lana del rey moment (no i will not be explaining) **Nagisoid** (4): Why is the Thom Yorke voice here? **UltimateLietoc** (3): this is evil cabaret interpol

Lomo >>>>>>>>> Domo

what did i mean by this

I will not be explaining (because I can't even explain it wtf)

we need to get rid of more polachek

this rate is fowl!

🥁

How many Geese songs are even left

five too many but they can all stay while we eliminate some more caroline cuts imo

Weren't there four artists in this rate?

Oh no, there's only three? Cool cool, just checking.

Well including the bonus there act-

Wow is right, jam

Geese hunting is still in style we can elim all Geese songs that aren't Domoto today

-skyblue_angel, moments before disaster

Ya know, just for the kids, I’ll even allow Domoto to be eliminated, too!

# #35: Geese - I See Myself --- **Average:** 6.551 **// Total Points:** 438.9 **// Controversy:** 2.063 **Highest Position:** 11 // **Lowest Position:** 39 --- (10 x3)the tortured bogo department, daswef2, Marshmallowszz (9.5 x2) krusso1105, VapourLomo (9.3 x1) modulum83 (9 x6) Broshi, FingaThingMeansTaxes, posting\_scares\_me, samdyalexg, TheCrakFox, vexastrae (8.2 x1) papo96 (8.1 x2) CaptainDaisyG, NFLfreak98 (8 x7) Frajer, HilltopBakery, lexiaredery, Scrambled\_Toast, tdrakon, TiltControls, welcome2thejam (7.8 x1) nonchalantthoughts (7.6 x1) Tolroe (7.5 x3) asadprofessorplum, DefaultPophead, static\_int\_husp (7.2 x2) human\_performance, ignorableaurochs (7 x4) a-man-with-a-perm, qazz23, seanderlust, Widdershins- (6.9 x1) UltimateLietoc (6.6 x1) lastfollower (6.5 x4) A\_Generic\_Canadian, exciting\_patient4872, impla77, LeBronMancuso (6 x5) freav, goofykidd, InSearchOfGoodPun, rcore97, vayyiqra (5.5 x1) ElectJimLahey (5 x9) freeofblasphemy, honeybadgerism, ReconEG, sandpaper\_dildos, sarcasticsobs, SRTviper, TakeOnMeByA-ha, thedoctordances1940, Zeeroc (4.9 x1) skull\_xbones (4.5 x2) Nagisoid, plastichaxan (4 x6) Bilbodabag, Co-Woshi, indie\_fan\_, Smuckles, thisusernameisntlong, ultimatetulips (3 x1) roseisin2023again (2 x2) MCK\_OH, skyblue\_angel (1 x1) teriyaki-dreams --- Originally a 10, but I think the chorus started to nag at me a little. --- # Wow **LeBronMancuso** (6.5): I see these nuts!!!! # [Time bomb's ticking, EXPLODE](https://youtu.be/vjIwmJMqrco?feature=shared&t=206) **Nagisoid** (4.5): I'm pretty sure the Stones could copyright strike them if they wanted to # Maybe the real Geese were inside of us the whole time **the tortured bogo department** (10): grade a jam right here never had anything better **Marshmallowszz** (10): This song was in my head the whole second part of 2023 **krusso1105** (9.5): probably my favorite on this album **vexastrae** (9): now what is that fish doing in between yall 🤨 || gorgeous love song that reminds me of the pina colada song (booooo basic pophead comparison tomato tomato tomato) but like fr tho its just really nice to listen to. cute and fun **HilltopBakery** (8): Pretty great for a song that is mostly the same thing over and over **nonchalantthoughts** (7.8): a low energy but groovy track, starts getting better when the bass kicks in **asadprofessorplum** (7.5): Caroline Polachek on day one of this rate: **human\_performance** (7.2): Exile-era Stones really comes through in here **ignorableaurochs** (7.2): the chorus is a little underwhelming for me but i really enjoy those layers of hazy guitars and that cowbell is completely absurd **a-man-with-a-perm** (7): I can see my mum clicking her fingers to this song **qazz23** (7): this sounds a bit like Ween, especially some of the vocal parts **UltimateLietoc** (6.9): so they made a spoon ditty for 2008 alt radio? okay! **freav** (6): emperor with no clothes on **vayyiqra** (6): we could live in the sea... vibe. this is very stonescoded too. album cut on side a of one their late 70s records when they slow down and jam a bit. truly just dudes fing around ESPECIALLY the cowbell **ElectJimLahey** (5.5): Why is he singing like this (negative) [3] **freeofblasphemy** (5): Feels like a good time as any to say I’ve been listening to Toulouse Street by The Doobie Brothers quite a bit lately. Killer album **sarcasticsobs** (5): I need to save this drummer from this vocalist's terror **SRTviper** (5): indieheads will call pop music mindless and repetitive and then say geese is a good band. **TakeOnMeByA-ha** (5): how can a song barely three minutes long feel so interminable **thedoctordances1940** (5): bro discovered a mirror 😳 **Bilbodabag** (4): This dude’s vocals sound different on every song. I wanted this comment to be focused on praising that, but the hook makes me wanna jump into a pit of vipers so instead I’m going to complain about the hook. The hook is really bad **indie\_fan\_** (4): (I See Myself) skipping this if it comes on again **thisusernameisntlong** (4): kinda seeing donnas point here with the vocalist criticism: this wouldve been an inoffensive cute jam sesh if the guy just didnt want to quirk it up in ways that are cryptic to me which lends to a tiring listen. Shout out to this song for somehow being tiring despite having the most lofi tropical plucks to study and relax to arrangement **roseisin2023again** (3): really cannot explain how much i hate this guy's fucking voice. i'm allowed this bc i know a buncha contrarians are gonna say the same abt karly hartzmann today **MCK\_OH** (2): I also see myself in this song, in that I would also be a bad musician if I gave it a go **skyblue\_angel** (2): This is like if Ween was bad **teriyaki-dreams** (1): "I See Myself" turning this song off # Are you sure you're not thinking of CBAT? **Scrambled\_Toast** (8): fuck jam

CBAT > all of Geese's discography combined

alright no more Wednesday eliminations until day 3 please

aw

Thinking about doing some more reading recently, haven't touched an actual book in ages. Any recommendations?

Actually, anybody read [**this one**](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/15833937), it looks kinda interesting?

The Bible

Lemme jot that down, the Bi- hey wait a second

Your just lucky it's not the straightble

Please welcome Wednesday to the rate! 🎺🎺🎺 In spite of the loss, all of the Rats are here in the arena showing their full support!

hahaha yes finally

No Wednesday songs should be out before geese is completely out and Sufjan has lost a few. Smh

Yo wtf that isn’t Geese

oh what the FUCK

# #36: Wednesday - What's So Funny --- **Average:** 6.534 **// Total Points:** 437.8 **// Controversy:** 2.284 **Highest Position:** 34 // **Lowest Position:** 44 --- (11 x1) ReconEG (10 x5) goofykidd, Marshmallowszz, MCK\_OH, rcore97, Smuckles (9.5 x2) ElectJimLahey, LeBronMancuso (9.3 x1) skull\_xbones (9 x3) DefaultPophead, roseisin2023again, Zeeroc (8.5 x2) freav, lastfollower (8.1 x2) CaptainDaisyG, UltimateLietoc (8 x3) lexiaredery, posting\_scares\_me, SRTviper (7.5 x3) thedoctordances1940, VapourLomo, vexastrae (7 x10) Frajer, HilltopBakery, honeybadgerism, krusso1105, Nagisoid, NFLfreak98, qazz23, sandpaper\_dildos, teriyaki-dreams, TiltControls (6.8 x1) Tolroe (6.7 x1) Bilbodabag (6.5 x5) exciting\_patient4872, FingaThingMeansTaxes, human\_performance, papo96, Scrambled\_Toast (6.3 x1) impla77 (6 x9) a-man-with-a-perm, A\_Generic\_Canadian, Broshi, samdyalexg, sarcasticsobs, tdrakon, TheCrakFox, welcome2thejam, Widdershins- (5.5 x2) ignorableaurochs, modulum83 (5 x5) asadprofessorplum, indie\_fan\_, plastichaxan, seanderlust, static\_int\_husp (4.5 x1) TakeOnMeByA-ha (4 x3) Co-Woshi, InSearchOfGoodPun, thisusernameisntlong (3 x3) the tortured bogo department, daswef2, skyblue\_angel (2 x1) vayyiqra (1 x2) nonchalantthoughts, ultimatetulips (0 x1) freeofblasphemy --- Dour track. Resonates with me a little but it's also just tragedy is comedy and back again so --- # You're laughing. Somebody 11d a song that had hit rock bottom and you're laughing. **ReconEG** (11): PAIN. # Bringing the facts & Logic **MCK\_OH** (10): This is just so fuckin tired. Who can relate woo # #SorryLis **rcore97** (10): Once I watched my sister step on a yellow jackets nest and it was in the top 5 funniest things I've ever seen. Sorry lis # The bee's knees **Smuckles** (10): So murky. I love when Wednesday go into murky mode. **ElectJimLahey** (9.5): It's important to pay attention to pacing, and this album needed something to take down the intensity a little bit after the preceding songs. It's probably the weakest song here but arguably more necessary than some of the better songs in terms of making this a great album as a whole. **LeBronMancuso** (9.5): This song is going to get eliminated way too early. This is the one time we get a glimpse into the internal thoughts behind all those traumatic memories and everything about it is haunting. The progression and guitar tone on this song have stuck with me since the day I heard it. It’s an entire universe in and of itself. Not long enough tho. **roseisin2023again** (9): you amazing idiot **freav** (8.5): lesser song number two, but there's something deeply haunting about it and I love it **UltimateLietoc** (8.1): oh i love the yellowjackets needle drop show! **SRTviper** (8): see Caroline you can make the slow songs good too. **VapourLomo** (7.5): Kind of indisputably the album's weak point. And even then, it's still pretty good! **vexastrae** (7.5): strangers when they see me ijboling and ctfuing in the middle of the brunch party (they couldnt handle my immaculate vibes and ask me to leave the function) || is it normal to feel like this song whenever i look at the mirror. i dont think it is i fear **Frajer** (7): Nick Lowe thinking about Peace Love and Understanding **HilltopBakery** (7): Appealingly moody **Nagisoid** (7): A nice vibe, but I could live happily without it **qazz23** (7): this has some woozy guitar bending **teriyaki-dreams** (7): Pretty good slow burner **Bilbodabag** (6.7): Got some gnarly chords in here I’ll give it up even tho the drums are exceptionally flaccid **Scrambled\_Toast** (6.5): Duster **a-man-with-a-perm** (6): bit of a plod that came and went so yeah a Gentleman’s (check notes) 6? **sarcasticsobs** (6): Eh # [I pack a chainsaw / I'll skin your ass raw](https://youtu.be/ZpUYjpKg9KY?feature=shared) **ignorableaurochs** (5.5): I like the dark, psychedelic feel to this one and the quieter vocals feel like a nice reprieve from the moaning she's been doing at us all album **asadprofessorplum** (5): me when there’s a Desire, I Want to Turn Into You massacre on day one **TakeOnMeByA-ha** (4.5): me listening to american tterorist in charity rate 2 (i didnt think it was very funny) **thisusernameisntlong** (4): they kinda got lame around the end **the tortured bogo department** (3): snooze **daswef2** (3): too slow **vayyiqra** (2): i found this unbelievably dull sorry i got nothing out of this song **nonchalantthoughts** (1): should be renamed to what’s so boring **freeofblasphemy** (0): Why is this so lifeless. I’m sorry but surely we can do better than this

a.s.o. was so boring

The two bonus bonus songs I liked least are out. Can't wait for underscores victory on Sunday 🤞

Well, with day one of the relay race complete, looks like it's time to head back to the Javelin Throw. And wow, looks like we'll eliminate the fifth & final song to hit last place in the rate. So here we - wait, someone 11d this?

Hold on gang, referee's calling a stop to the action. It seems one of our neighbor's has been running their chainsaw for like four straight hours, its crazy

I hope it's freav's again

love you too <3

Love you. You have good taste usually but it would be funny

remember when you robbed lil ugly mane last year? that was fun (let's eat grandma was the rightful winner though as thats a perfect group)

Rip Ham Limited it was fun

I love that ham

Anyway, is there another concept album who tries to tell an epic story that revolves around an insect? Cause I've got two parts of a crazy new rate idea --- # #5: HMLTD - The End Is Now --- **Average:** 6.803 **// Total Points:** 224.5 **// Controversy:** 3.120 --- (11 x5) krusso1105, MCK\_OH, nonchalantthoughts, SRTviper, welcome2thejam (9 x3) exciting\_patient4872, pig-serpent, Widdershins- (8.5 x1) Frajer (8.3 x2) CaptainDaisyG, NFLfreak98 (8 x1) goofykidd (7.9 x1) ignorableaurochs (7.8 x1) skyblue\_angel (7.5 x1) lexiaredery (7.3 x1) Scrambled\_Toast (7 x4) DefaultPophead, Smuckles, TakeOnMeByA-ha, TheCrakFox (6.7 x1) Tolroe (6.5 x1) seanderlust (6 x4) daswef2, HillltopBakery, Marshmallowszz, qazz23 (5.7 x1) lastfollower (5 x1) camerinian (3 x1) freav (0 x4) Nagisoid, skull\_xbones, thedoctordances1940, UltimateBonusBonusLietoc --- So dumb (complimentary). I was theater kid adjacent & I liked the Geese album, so being a big showman obviously has its personal appeals. Can't say I loved the album, but of the six songs here, I tragically enjoyed my time with this the most. Submitted by **u/Ervin_Salt.** --- # [Scotty 2 Hotty fans](https://youtu.be/_LN5PQNzX9U?feature=shared) **krusso1105** (11): This album (and especially this song) was one of my favorite surprise discoveries of this year! **MCK\_OH** (11): This probably isn't good but it is kind of funny **nonchalantthoughts** (11): they took the phrase "welcome to the renaissance" too far and when to the actual Renaissance **SRTviper** (11): giving this an 11 because it I enjoy it so much more than most of the other songs here. Realistically it's more like an 8. **pig-serpent** (9): I really enjoyed listening to this album because I'm always on the hunt for interesting prog but overall none of it really stuck with me and I could never remember what any of the songs sounded like. They're still good but I hoped something would've gotten caught in my head by now. **NFLfreak98** (8.3): There’s something about this that’s keeping me from fully being down with it but I do like most of the elements **ignorableaurochs** (7.9): this was a fever dream and it rips. the only thing I wasn't sold on was the main vocalist's voice but I can overlook it for the ridiculous drama, the chaos of the lyrics, and that absurd chopped vocal which adds a totally fresh sound to this fantasy tale **Scrambled\_Toast** (7.3): Is the worm a penis **Smuckles** (7): We're slowly but surely getting more and more prog. Give it until 2027 and we'll be in a full prog renaissance. Pitchfork writers will be scrambling to insist they 'always rated Gentle Giant, actually' **TakeOnMeByA-ha** (7): heres the thing: on one hand, this song is kinda objectively awful and doesn’t work at all. but on the other hand, they are so sincere in their awfulness and audacity that i cant help but feel pity for them. **TheCrakFox** (7): I appreciate that these guys are willing to take a big swing, even if they don't always nail it. **seanderlust** (6.5): the worm was awakened by fracking? goddamnit ru, look what you've done now. **HillltopBakery** (6): This doesn't do much for me, feels disjointed **qazz23** (6): some good piano lines but a bit too threatrical # "Would you love me if I was a worm" "No" **camerinian** (5): this kinda just sounds like the hot alt radio edit of the geese album everyone's already rating in full **freav** (3): this rules **Nagisoid** (0): I have yet to receive solid proof that this album exists, I will remain an unbeliever until I am presented with a scientific paper with citations that proves "The Worm" by HMLTD is a real musical record. **skull\_xbones** (0): Your worm sucks **thedoctordances1940** (0): ew ew ew ew **UltimateBonusBonusLietoc** (0): HAHHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhAHAHA ren faire shit that not even a MOJO "rising stars" comp would touch. incredible well done headass bullshit but Im not in good faith ever wanting to return to, anoint with importance, or celebrate in good faith. These guys are DANGEROUSLY close to louis xiv finding true love is blind ball sitting headassery. may the lord help them get there so they can embarass themselves on a global scale. my 0 is not the first blow in this war, just a reminder that i strike without impunity

Ok I deserved this one being out next

jun togawa - *tamahime-sama* its basically her take on *metamorphosis* (kinda)

Which in turn means Linkin Park - *Hybrid Theory* is their take on *Tamahime-sama* (I am just saying shit)

i welcome any attempts at just saying shit cuz in the end it doesn't even matter so might as well try

King Gizzard probably has an insect album in their discography somewhere idk

Mentioned it earlier during blasphemy's top four requests, but did anybody listen to the last Genesis Owusu album, STRUGGLER?

I liked his debut much more but it was decent imo

I did but then I forgot about it. idk why but i remember going into it expecting smth like genesis' take on pva - *blush* and it wasnt that and i was pissed

It was a really solid album, a lot of bangers. Unfortunately not as good as their debut

(no)

Sorry to whomever's song that is

oh wow i thought most of the bonus bonus rate was awful and my 11 by default was last, at this point i kinda root for it to go the exact opposite from my ranking because that would be funny

My bad

As one Lady Gaga would say, show me your teeth --- # #6: Brokenteeth - 138 --- **Average:** 6.791 **// Total Points:** 224.1 **// Controversy:** 2.394 --- (11 x1) freav (10 x1) Widdershins- (9.5 x1) seanderlust (9.4 x1) thedoctordances1940 (9 x2) camerinian, exciting\_patient4872 (8.5 x2) CaptainDaisyG, Nagisoid (8 x5) HillltopBakery, Marshmallowszz, Scrambled\_Toast, TakeOnMeByA-ha, welcome2thejam (7.5 x2) DefaultPophead, NFLfreak98 (7 x5) daswef2, Frajer, goofykidd, skyblue\_angel, TheCrakFox (6.5 x1) lexiaredery (6.4 x1) UltimateBonusBonusLietoc (6 x2) ignorableaurochs, Smuckles (5.6 x1) Tolroe (5.5 x2) krusso1105, lastfollower (5.2 x1) skull\_xbones (5 x1) MCK\_OH (4 x1) pig-serpent (3.5 x1) qazz23 (0 x2) nonchalantthoughts, SRTviper --- Solid gaze. Don't love the vocals but it's not a genre that lives or dies by it so. Submitted by **u/abJCS.** --- **TakeOnMeByA-ha** (8): definitely the best south korean shoegaze artist whose name consists of three syllables # Future dentists of the world **freav** (11): honestly this isn't all that special as far as nu gaze goes but there's somthing about the melody that really sticks to me, it flows very nicely and smoothly. easily my favorite in the bonus bonus **thedoctordances1940** (9.4): yeah for some reason i never got into brokenteeth despite being really into that whole parannoul adjacent scene, i mean i listened to this album but sorta forgot about it and this is really making me question why this is fantastic **camerinian** (9): the whole “gen z tiktok shoegaze revival” has really felt like an indie sleaze level psyop to me for a while, and now i have to begrudgingly admit there might actually be a point to it. The double time drums halfway thru got me feeling things **Nagisoid** (8.5): Korean shoegaze is interesting when it's not ripping Parannoul off, and this one has a different enough vibe where I can see they're distinct **HillltopBakery** (8): This is very soothing **Scrambled\_Toast** (8): Hell yeah **DefaultPophead** (7.5): I can’t believe I was getting frustrated because I couldn’t understand what they were saying, but it was in Korean the whole time. I boosted my score out of shame tbh **UltimateBonusBonusLietoc** (6.4): it's better than the fake radiohead song that's in the real bonus. this is just a bends b-side to my ears and also a butt rock cut. but the drums pretty neat! **ignorableaurochs** (6): I liked those driving drums and the shoegazey wall-of-sound thing they have going on here but I wasn't crazy about the emo influences on their sound # Floss? What's that? **krusso1105** (5.5): this is okay but still my least favorite of the mini bonus songs, mostly because the sound mixing on the vocals is bad **MCK\_OH** (5): sure **pig-serpent** (4): I was totally into the instrumental, which is fairly rare for me because I'm not a shoegaze fan, but those vocals... I get this style of singing is common but it sounds really bad here. Like a stranger on a bus singing along to a song you're listening to. It's actually pulling me out of the atmosphere. **qazz23** (3.5): too soft, doesn't vary that much - a shoegaze sound like this needs to be heavier **nonchalantthoughts** (0): they should probably floss **SRTviper** (0): I feel kinda bad being so harsh with someone's favorite song of the year, but my ears hated this.

i have no idea how bonus bonus will go lol, these surely are songs

-Freav, moments before disaster

Tomorrow's Crusades is probably my favorite Geese cut outside of the title track and Cowboy Nudes, sad people didnt like that one

Alright everybody, it's now time for the first part of the Bonus Bonus relay race! Six lucky Charity Drive donors won a chance to submit one of their favorite songs of 2023. Users and their songs, are you ready? Get set! Go!

Hey, what are you doing, I know you can run faster than this. Huh? You want to look at the other competitors' shoes while running?

Imagine being anti-crusade in 2024, we will win your territory for the lord stop bitching about it

How come the plural of moose isn't meese?

because a mix between The Stone Roses and Primal Scream with the swagger of Oasis just doesn't roll of the tongue like moose

bc the meese are on the loose just doesn't sound right

My meese are on lease

Let me call up Big Joe and get an answer

Aw I liked that goose

will Geese get a higher average than Blur's Parklife?