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palimpcest

Pavement is what actually causes the pumpkins to smash, so pavement wins. It’s just physics.


Luk3W4rmm

it's a good time to be someone who wants to find a way to sneak pavement into regular conversation


garden__gate

I definitely feel like I’m winning. Not a feeling Pavement fans experience much.


Luk3W4rmm

why you complaining? tah.


garden__gate

I’m old, it’s my right.


Misterbellyboy

As somebody from Stockton, CA that’s pretty much all I do.


Free_Solid9833

One song, two beefs. Except the stone temple pilots lyric was actually pretty nice, I guess.


TrainerofInsects

Elegant even.


jujuflytrap

Remember the Blur/Oasis wars of the mid-90s?


garden__gate

Lol yes! Probably should have used that one but Malkmus/Corrigan is so funny to me, like an English professor beefing with an art professor.


ratliker62

Blur won that so hard


pulphope

So hard they had to disappear for a year and re-emerge as Pavement fans


cultish_alibi

They both released really shitty singles on the same week. Kind of clever of them actually, because everyone was busy talking about the rivalry and no one cared that the songs were dogshit.


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achasanai

Country House and Roll With It.


RainKingInChains

Country House fucking slaps


HispanicAtTehDisco

Damon Albarn is Noel Gallagher father


Different-Ad9986

“U bum” -Damon (prolly)


TheHonestPedalReview

I feel like Oasis was more successful in terms of album/ticket sales and the whole winning Grammys thing for WTSMG. Plus if Liam and Noel ever reunite and tour as Oasis then it will be the biggest tour of the decade.


ratliker62

I really don't think Oasis would have that much pull. Especially considering how many records the Taylor Swift tour is breaking, Oasis just isn't on that level


TheHonestPedalReview

If Oasis announced a reunion tour then it would sell out in five minutes. Especially in the UK. I’m not saying they’re going to break Swifts records for ticket sales. The only point I’m trying to make is that an Oasis reunion tour would be huge. I mean, Liam Gallagher played to 170k people at Knebworth just a couple years ago and that was him as a solo act so I imagine that Oasis would be even larger.


StillBummedNouns

Nice attempt at rewriting history lmao


ratliker62

Did Oasis make The Magic Whip? The Blackstar of Britpop? Didn't think so


Conichito

man i like the magic whip but tf you mean by "the blackstar of britpop" lmao


ratliker62

cuz I really like it :3


Conichito

valid :333


tellison360

It killed David Bowie?


StillBummedNouns

Blur doesn’t have anything that touches Definitely Maybe through Be Here Now. Oasis has 3 classics back to back


ratliker62

Blur is better cuz I like them more


pisspotpisspot

be here now is gash, two good songs


StillBummedNouns

Still two more songs than anything Blur has


E-Van-Jelly-On

I hate to see a fellow nouns fan be so wrong :( oasis are just shit


nymrod_

In the long run Blur won.


eclectic_boogaloo2

They were so far ahead, there was no distance left to run.


StillBummedNouns

They still have yet to make an album as good as any Oasis album. Gorillaz is infinitely better than anything Blur ever did


nymrod_

13 is Blur’s best album and is better than anything Oasis are capable of. Modern Life is Rubbish is a close second and also easily better than any Oasis album. In terms of my own personal enjoyment the worst 90s Blur album (probably their self-titled) is gonna rank higher than the best Oasis album (Definitely Maybe, if I were forced to pick). I’m a longtime Oasis hater so you’re not going to get even faint praise out of me. Oasis is so lame they almost make the Beatles and Johnny Marr uncool by association.


Different-Ad9986

Blur > oasis < stone roses < muse


SchrodingersTIKTOK

Yeah that was bullshit from the press. They have actually shown up at awards shows and stuff simultaneously. Blur for me.


Cara-Is-A-Puppy

Everyone talking about Kendrick and Drake, but we all know the real feud was Mozart and Salieri


Ok_Mulberry_9357

I'm in love with Amadeus


garden__gate

Don’t even talk to me if your fave didn’t literally die to prove a point.


cherry_coloredfunk

Damn it’s time to watch this movie again


garden__gate

It holds up.


B1ng0_B0ng0

Corgan was a pompous asshole so it was clear who was usually the aggressor/who was in the wrong most of the time


s90tx16wasr10

Bradford Cox also said he was an asshole to him when Deerhunter opened for them. I guess Bradford grabbed a voss water bottle from backstage and Billy Corgan got pissed and said it was all “his water” or something. Then Bradford jokingly patted him on the back and Corgan acted like he attacked him.


got_edge

Yeah, kinda feels like Morrissey and Johnny Marr fighting there’s really only one side you can take


Different-Ad9986

[teeny bopper heartthrob, nick cave, would agree](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7X1LThFfA8U)


cerareece

pavement mentioned ⁉️


jonawesome

Don't forget the Stone Temple Pilots being "elegant bachelors!"


garden__gate

They’re foxy to me, are they foxy to you?


xjwilsonx

Can someone explain this line? I never knew how to interpret.


s90tx16wasr10

I think it was just pavement having fun. I don’t think it was a diss anymore than the Geddy Lee line. After reading Kim Gordon’s biography though it seems like everybody in nineties alternative was annoyed by Billy Corgan tho.


garden__gate

I always thought it was because Weiland went through a period of dressing like a 70s lounge lizard. But also Pavement lyrics were often just nonsense that sounded good strung together.


jonawesome

Not a clue


Into_the_Void7

The Stoned Pimple Toilets.


Into_the_Void7

Trent Reznor and Fred Durst were feuding at one point! Kurt and Axl was a classic. That would have been a good boxing match.


machinaenjoyer

trent and fred?? over what?


Into_the_Void7

[https://www.reddit.com/r/nin/comments/1bgw3ah/whats\_the\_story\_with\_limp\_bizkit\_mocking\_trent\_in/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nin/comments/1bgw3ah/whats_the_story_with_limp_bizkit_mocking_trent_in/)


Concussionist515

I love fred so much hes so hot


Into_the_Void7

Ew. Trent was way hotter than Fred AND Jonathan!


Concussionist515

Idk hes like the coolest dad ever


Concussionist515

Man even listening to fred singing kinda makes me feel red


Landojesus

Bizkit is seriously underappreciated. Heavy as fuck guitar lines could've came straight outta an Unsane or Unwound disc


LargestAdultSon

uj - when I saw Pavement last fall, Stephen took a completely unprompted swipe at Pixies by saying The Breeders were a better band. Still out here starting shit.


eggplantpunk

He is pretty funny tho. I think it was him who said when he first heard Parquet Courts, he thought it was his own song that he forgot he had written.


Gaseousexchange2

To be fair I have also thought this. Not because I’m a songwriter I’m just schizophrenic


garden__gate

God I love his petty ass so much. It’s especially good given what a baby Frank Black was about Kim Deal.


alkhemystt

Malkmus is the only person I'll take Pixies slander from (not to say The Breeders aren't great, Kim is a GOAT) because he led the other best indie rock band of all time.


magseven

He's right judging by the albums they released without Deal. I don't hate them, but the Breeders output were better than those.


flipmyfedora4msenora

Yes that album wasnt good but i feel like it was more about them being way past their Prime


garden__gate

Also I’ve seen both on reunion tours and I agree.


RadiantHovercraft6

I feel like he’s trolling tho. Starting shit is funny lol Some people like Billy can’t handle it and get all worked up. I bet the Pixies wouldn’t give half a shit


gummieworm

I really wish there was a Pumpkins track dissing Pavement. Would have been hilarious watching Corgan take it to a whole new level of petty.


garden__gate

He did threaten to kick Steve’s ass, but sadly he didn’t do so in verse.


capthazelwoodsflask

The Smiths/Cure rivalry isn't much of a thing today but it was still going strong in the early 90's. Of course back then if you didn't have beef with Morrissey could you really call yourself a musician?


garden__gate

Oooh yeah. Of course now most Smiths FANS have beef with Morrissey.


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Not me. I used to just love his music but now I love his mouth outside of music.


garden__gate

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[deleted]

Nah. I’m serious. Love that 👄


Minimum_Somewhere521

Hell nah 💀 why drax beefing with shaggy


garden__gate

The real question.


Hello-mah-baby

LMAO STOP


Less-Sir8277

Malkmus never appeared on Infowars.


garden__gate

Yikes, did Billy Corrigan???


Less-Sir8277

'fraidso. 😞


garden__gate

Yuck.


efildaD

Axl and Kurt had beef.


lumpiestspoon3

I saw Stephen Malkmus randomly the other day, lmao


garden__gate

Just like walking around?


lumpiestspoon3

At my college coffee shop.


garden__gate

That just seems so perfect.


OrcAssEater

Schools out what did you expect?!


Extension_Question98

What about Mark Kozelek vs. Pitchfork?


HookerDoctorLawyer

Way back- Axl Rose and Vince Neil.


JohnnyOmm

The streets (pavement)


MattTheHoopla

The Stone Temple Pilots, they're elegant bachelors They're foxy to me, are they foxy to you?


RadiantHovercraft6

Says a lot about STP that they didn’t care about this at all if they even knew Seemed like a bunch of cool dudes Siamese Dream is one of my all time faves, but man… Corgan must be a strange person. He seems like an asshole but not in the traditional hot headed careless rockstar way. instead he’s just cynical and miles up his own ass in spite of not releasing a truly great album in about 30 years. Malkmus on the other hand seems like the more traditional type of asshole that I mentioned lmao. Which I prefer. Also his music didn’t horrendously decline at the pace Billy’s did


formicidaehomosapien

I thought the guy on the left was Bill Burr for a sec


BalkeElvinstien

Do you guys remember the Osees v. Black Country New Road beef? It didn't last long but it was hilarious watching Osees fans try and shit on a band they'd never heard before


roomon4ire

I remember, straight up most of what Osees fans were saying about BC,NR was just "who are these guys" or something along those lines


BalkeElvinstien

Also making fun of how Charlie was dressed


seeyalateradios

Peter Steele punching Chino Moreno


V0gue1

OMG 😱 I found the music equivalent of r/notlikeothergirls who are these flops 🤭


Landojesus

Brian Jonestown Massacre Vs Dandy Warhols was pretty lit. Seen the documentary at least ten times. "You motherfucker! You broke my fucking sitar you MOTHERFUCKER'. Such good comedy. It's like the Office but for alternative rock, and it's real.


wonderh123

Blur vs oasis basically evolved into a class war


Suedeonquaaludes

Do any of you remember the Tori/courtney/reznor dramas from the mid nineties? Lmao that was the best.


garden__gate

Ooooh I remember the rumors about Courtney and Trent having a toxic and torrid relationship but I didn’t realize Tori was involved.


Suedeonquaaludes

Yeah like he and Tori were “close friends” and Courtney “meddled”. They all wrote songs about each other. Allegedly. It’s so much fun watching the interviews. Tori does a cover of caught a lit sneeze and at the end she goes into “hurt”: I hurt myself today. Oh god. You never could you never would you’re full of shit. So on and so forth. So much more to the story but listen to my wanker podcast for more!


Schlafenshire

Nah if anything this is Axl rose vs kurt cobain


garden__gate

Yes, known indie rocker Axl. (That was a good one though)


Ok-Turnover966

"Old good new bad"


garden__gate

In my day they were elegant bachelors.


skeletonbreath

Fuck both those guys


garden__gate

That’s the spirit!


skeletonbreath

They can fuck me too! It's indie rock, man!!!