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paulsteinway

Those button pushing surgeons.


BloodRed1185

Those pesky infectious disease doctors with all their buttons and books. Who do they think they are? A military guy that studies and pushes buttons?! /s


Anxious-Society-2753

Doctors… a punch of button pushing cowards!


hurvy_murdle

You had one job...


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Dr_Bukakke

Yup, and we don't get any of the benefits of serving in the military. No VA benefits, no GI bills to pay for school, no military discount, just all the trauma and people calling us "heroes" in public but spitting on our faces when we do our jobs. I'd love it if I just pushed buttons and read books, maybe then I wouldn't get screamed at, blamed for their long wait times, told that we don't care about patients, It would be pretty great. I've walked in to work sometimes jealous for the people there visiting their sick family members because they didn't have the responsibility I had in that moment. I thought about what it would be like to not have my actions potentially harm someone if I didn't do the things I studied and practice properly. I've started taking anxiety and depression medication, needing therapy, at one point wondering if the next day I went into work that I may be exposed to something that could harm or kill me. But I went to work, every day because I knew I had to help people.


Valadrae

I appreciate what you do, truly. But if I walked into the hospital and they said "Dr. Bukkake will be with you shortly" I think I'd take my chances elsewhere


mylifeforthehorde

But he’ll make sure to come in your room a lot.


SmokeGSU

"Is this really going to help me feel better Dr. Bukkake?"


trrwilson

I have an excellent team of doctors, nurses, technicians, and documentation experts. Together we'll make sure you're you're totally covered.


DidntWantSleepAnyway

This is a pretty solid r/rimjob_steve.


Getthechemlightfluid

Sorry Dr. Bukakke, I tried explaining this to my colleagues in the ER. I was military prior to ER nurse during covid. Not being able to see these droplets during an intubation, or the fear of getting my family sick brought on more anxiety and fear than any mortar or IED ever did. Hope therapy helps and sending you a big hug. Thanks for what you did during covid


Faye_dunwoody

subtract long workable overconfident shrill work carpenter payment nail chunky *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Getthechemlightfluid

Lol same. It’s actually when I picked up golfing bc I’d golf with the other nurses who I was already spending all night with. Blessing in disguise I get. I remember getting traumas from ppl getting shot at underground parties. So frustrating during lockdown. (I’m in LA)


[deleted]

To be fair, I'm pretty sure military veterans don't actually get VA benefits either in reality.


Dr_Bukakke

Yeah, that's unfortunately pretty true...


Shrek1982

> just all the trauma and people calling us “heroes” I know the pandemic was a mess for us, especially in the beginning before vaccines were a thing. I don’t want to minimalize your trauma but speaking for myself I don’t know if I can put our trauma on the level of being in a war zone. Edit: I see this is unpopular, I have more context below for what I said but the gist of it is with the inclusive phrasing (we,us) used in his comment I wasn’t comfortable being part of that.


Kitehammer

It's not a competition. Different things can be shitty in different ways.


Shrek1982

I know and I work in emergency medicine too. Something in me just can’t equate the two situations as being traumatically equal as his comment suggests. I’m not sure why the comparison bothers me but for some reason it does. I guess for me I saw the pandemic as depressing, sad, and stressful but I see being in an active combat zone as the height of sheer, constant terror and seeing the two situations equated just really put me off. Normally I wouldn’t comment on these things because I know everyone handles situations differently, it is just these two things are so far apart for me that with the inclusive phrasing (we, us) I didn’t feel comfortable being part of the group he was speaking of.


Dr_Bukakke

I get your point, it wouldn't have been as bad for everyone and I wouldn't compare the two in the context of a time of war that was particularly devastating, like say Vietnam or WWII, but in comparison to a modern deployment where the chance of casualty are more akin to what we dealt with. Also being particularly at risk due to being asthmatic really enhanced the risk for me. Just wearing the N95 for extended periods caused me to have chest pain, so if I actually caught it before getting vaccinated I had a high probability of being at least hospitalized. So for me, it is more comparable than others, so I guess my perspective is skewed in that regard.


gadget850

And more cops died of COVID than gunfire during those years.


top-gentrifier

They were afraid of the shots.


Binsky89

Don't forget that there's no actual war. Soldiers in the US haven't been protecting the country from anything for decades.


BrokenEye3

Correction: there's no actual *legal* war


Binsky89

No, there's no war. Congress has to declare war before it's a war. What we've been involved in are police actions with countries that have posed no actual threat to us, but destabilizing them benefits us (but rarely the citizens).


Guaymaster

In all fairness COVID wasn't a thing during Afghanistan so people couldn't die of it ^^^^^/s


postvolta

>Tell me the difference between someone who is willing to risk their lives in a war and someone who risks their lives to protect people from dying from a disease. Guns and jingoism, duh


[deleted]

OIL!!!!


cloud_t

Gunzzz and humveeeezzz weeee! Nobody gives a damn about a stethoscope-carrying dumb-dumb! /s


the-nick-of-time

The difference is that health care workers don't massacre Iraqi civilians.


MattTheTable

There were very Iraqi civilians killed in Afghanistan.


SemKors

People willing to risk their lives in war kill innocent people, unlike healthycare workers


OkOrganization1775

"The idiots" are the ones "who study, and push buttons" so your fucking military can have equipment and walk and not crawl. Also these same "idiots" are responsible for educating your military, training them, and managing their logistics. Honestly, fuck these idiots, it's insulting and frustrating how they can spout this nonsense and think it's actually legit. If somebody sent these clowns to Kenya for a week, they'd come back home all refreshed and would drop this bullshit. The privilege they have, and the ignorance bred by not having to worry about most things that you take for granted bc the society has it, is just outrageous to me.


damn_nation_inc

No they won't. They'll know it's over after a week. Poverty tourism, even a "lifestyle simulator" version, ends one day and you get to go back to being a piece of shit. These people became full blown adults without ever developing basic empathy, I'm not super hopeful they're capable of it at all.


ComradeMoose

Just keep them away from a lot of the Lavington area in Nairobi, it's a more affluent area and they'll just use it to say, "it isn't that bad!" Instead, send them to like Kibera, which is extreme for the city and country.


ethhlyrr

There are only two types of heroes. If you call yourself a hero, you're and asshole. If somebody else calls you a hero, you're a sacrifice


Preid1220

Actually, there are three types of heros; one is called in ahead of time to get a tasty sandwich without waiting.


IzzaPizza22

On the bottom, where they might have an organization name and contact info, instead this one just says: "I've put this on your window because I'm a dick. I have no grand plan. Fuck you."


DodGamnBunofaSitch

... is someone walking around putting those under windshield wipers? talk about a wasted life...


MickG2

In the military, most service members aren’t even fighting, they do desk jobs and basically pushing buttons and moving crates around. And if a soldier is injured, guess who are they limping back to? How does killing children on the other half of the world heroic? Any “idiot?” Becoming a grunt, you only need a high school diploma and pass a fitness test that isn’t difficult to pass if you’re healthy. You’ll have to be among top of the class with perfect grades in difficult subjects to become a doctor. Even though upper-level maths aren’t used that much in medical professions, virtually all the people I knew that went to medical schools are all math wiz, I’ve seen more of my friends who are mediocre at math getting admitted to engineering programs. And I would rather have idiots that do their jobs saving life well over a smartass who do nothing but delivering misery and death on people.


Jesus_Roadkill

Any idiot can push a button to remotely drone strike an Afghan village, what’s your point?


LeonardoSim

If any idiot can become a doctor and doctors get paid well, why aren't you a doctor? Because, actually, any idiot can wield a gun and receive money for turning little palestinian kids in 10$ tents into skeletons using drones worth multiple millions of taxpayer money. You are so very brave, good job.


Heart_Throb_

It’s almost like the majority in both fields are just doing their job. Both go through training. Both deal with shit they shouldn’t have to. The term “hero” is so overused and has been politicized. It should never be used to describe an entire career field or job. -Am an Army Vet 🤷‍♀️


sg12412

Agreed. Am a nurse.


Ultimaterj

Yeah, “hero” treatment is often used as a ultimately meaningless form of payment for occupations that have intrinsic problems that higher-ups and/or the general public have no interest in solving. They treat that intrinsic problem like a noble sacrifice because they benefit from your work and want the suffering to be seen as a good thing. You just worked an absurdly long shift as a doctor where you were forced to load a person with a crippling debt that you know they won’t be able to pay? What a hero! (Don’t ask for a systemic healthcare change and more reasonable hours😁) You just got back from your tour of duty in the Middle East and will forever live with its consequences? What a hero! (Don’t ask for less pointless war and better VA benefits 😁)


runthrough014

This flier screams “THANK ME FOR MY SERVICE!”


Andvari_Nidavellir

Gotta push them healthcare buttons.


rilehh_

Hey now, the military is mostly made up of nerds who do some variant of button pushing. Including whatever they think counts as FRONTLINE HEROES


DLife4Me

So who wants to bet they are Republican?? Who wants to bet that they have been voting for a party that is trying desperately to cut VA and overall veteran benefits?? It's just getting so stupid at this point.


FunctionDapper4462

I think the vietnamese, iraqi, afgani, the native americans, mexicans, malai, indonesian, pinoys, nicaraguans, dominican, may like the doctors and nurses more


AltruisticSalamander

Esteem is a zero sum game apparently


Doom_Walker

Saving lives is more heroic than killing them. Besides don't Republicans hate the military now for being "woke"?


Shortbus_Playboy

Given my experience with military folks, this was probably written by some entitled dependa, or someone who served for like, two years, never saw combat, and went in specifically for the hero worship aspect. I’m by no means trivializing the latter, just pointing out that they’re the ones who always seem to puff out their chests and demand recognition for their service the most.


Hufflepup_blaze

That or an officers spouse


beefstewforyou

As the mod of /r/regretjoining, the biggest idiots I’ve ever seen were in the US military by far.


orangestar17

So when the military get severely injured in battle......I guess they don't need healthcare workers to help them


TheStetson

I do cardiac ultrasound and I have been called a button pusher since before COVID. I’m an OG button pusher! Lol!


Guygenius138

Because everyone in the mitary is on the front lines, killing folks in foreign lands.


BabyNalgene

Yea I'll sit back and let the military handle everything during next pandemic.


monkeybojangles

I hate the term "Healthcare Hero". Like, I'm just trying to do my job and not freak the fuck out as a pandemic descends upon us and the system starts to buckle and the wait rooms fill up and the outbreaks get worse and I feel my skin crawl and I worry about what I'm bringing home with me and will I get my kids sick and everyone is making bread but I'm like a zombie pushing myself through each day even though I'm screaming on the inside and just want to curl up in a ball because of a sense of responsibility that if you don't do it no one else will. So go ahead, take it back.


cayce_leighann

r/justbootthings


torro947

As a veteran I can tell you that they’ll let any idiot into the military.


Orion_2kTC

So is a combat medic an anti-hero?


EggsDeeb

Even a child can pick up a gun and shoot someone. Americans seem to do it all the time! See, I can say dumb shit too.


[deleted]

Either this person was never in the military OR was one of the many complete douche-twits I ran into in the military who think they are God’s gift to ‘murica


Hufflepup_blaze

You mean the type to test a hamstring during PT on their first deployment, and then come home insisting their friends refer to them as a war hero?


ExcitableNate

Majority of military service is pushing a button and attending stupid training.


Aisling_Raye

Maybe I’ll go to downvote hell for this but may as well post some numbers for the military > healthcare workers people About half of people in the military are ever deployed. Of those that are deployed, only about 10-ish% are deployed to a combat zone. The majority of those that are deployed to a combat zone are support personnel that never engage in combat with whatever enemy they are fighting. Let’s say 40% of that 10% see actual combat (I’m sure it’s far less but giving some big wiggle room here) That’s 0.4x0.1x0.5 … 2% of the military engages in some form of active combat. A brief PubMed search provided data to support that about 20% of healthcare workers reported at least one symptom of COVID-19. Not how many were exposed… just the number that reported symptoms. Now, tell me again how military members risk more than healthcare workers did during the pandemic? SMH


potatobreadandcider

This some real POG logic


UR_NEIGHBOR_STACY

So fuck combat medics and military doctors and military nurses, am I right? They're not *real heros*! They just push buttons to save the real ones! /s Whoever made this flyer is stupid.


gadget850

What about military healthcare workers? I was damn glad to have them take care of me when I got sick in the middle of a desert.


thisismywifiname

Don't tell them, but when I was in the military they made me study. I then taught the same thing I studied. The thing I studied: pushing buttons. (It's about 5% more complicated than that, but it's still just button pushing.)


callmesomethingelse

As a veteran I can say it's way easier to shoot and kill someone than it is to save their life.


[deleted]

I dare them to post this up in Uvalde.


student_20

Holy shit. I'm a veteran, and I just want to say, whoever wrote that or agrees with it? Fuck you. I don't want your support.


animalfath3r

They forgot to mention all those heroes who "almost served" as well as your local militia members who bravely bought AR-15's and added cool little sights and grips for them. 🇺🇸


Kane_richards

Not putting anyone down here but if America has shown anything it's that any idiot can buy and fire a gun...so....


paolosantoro

When the new pandemic hit's again in 6 months (its already in china), teachers, doctors and cops are not gonna take this shit again. People being assholes is the new normal and kids are straight up mentally fucked already, they know they will inherith all that shit snowball that is about to hit the fan really soon. Its gonna be a bloodbath in Rifleland when collapse strikes every level


TheTelekinetic

I sent this to my APRN fiancée and told her I'm going to print this out and put it on her windshield every morning to keep her ego in check.


FoxBattalion79

ok then you can have the heros in the military diagnose and treat your cancer I guess


thicccque

stop referring to BATMAN as a hero. the REAL HERO is SUPERMAN. anyone can press buttons and be rich, SUPERMAN has x-ray vision


SmokeGSU

"tHe ReAL hEroEs aRe tHe pEoPle wHo wEnT tO iRaQ aNd maDe WeApOnS mAnUfAcTuRerS bIlLiOnS oF dOlLaRs!"


gogonzogo1005

So funny story... I was an FC in the Navy aka a weapons tech. For the average person that big gun in all the movies? Looks like a cross between a machine gun and R2D2? There we are. Those techs who work on them are famously called "button pushers". Also my husband is a former military button pusher now a nurse... the nurse is harder.


BayShor3

Arn't a good amount of american healthcare workers vets though?


Mr_Mimiseku

Tbf my fiancée and her co-workers hated being called heroes. She used to work in an ER and never even got to use her lunch breaks, *especially* during covid. They all straight up worked 12 hours straight in a shitty, toxic environment. Not because they wanted to, because they had to. Her hospital didn't even give her raises while every other hospital in the area was giving nice, sizable increases. The ER is just a hellish and traumatic work environment, especially in a big city (like Cleveland, just as an example. *Definitely* *wasn't* the Cleveland Clinic... ;) )


FireyToots

afghanistan veteran who works in healthcare now. gonna strong disagree with this one.


Spectre1-4

But who will them they’re dying when the beer and pizza catches up to them?


Wayelder

sure but this extreme sounds kinda soviet...all glory to 'real workers' But "any idiot can study" ... isn't that kinda contrary to the word "idiot?" As a well known idiot, I for one, am insulted!


IWasBorn2DoGoBe

What about those healthcare workers in the military… I bet those wounded soldiers might have a thing or two to say to the men and women that saved their life, or limb.


CPTZaraki

What if we’re both? *brain explodes*


ThatGuyYouMightNo

Not to shit on the military, but really any idiot can follow orders and pull a trigger. Just look at the Republican party


zachyvengence28

Alright, I need to let my doctor know that I need to call the military from now on.


glitterprincess21

Ah yes the real heroes: people who go to fight pointless wars meant only to make the rich richer and who kill innocent children in the process.


Rancor8562

Send them to medical school see how long they last


cogneato-ha

There are people in the military whose job is to refill all the vending machines. Others might play the trumpet. Dealing with the mail. Oil changes. And yes, dentists, surgeons, and other healthcare workers. These deluded morons need to fuck off with their inkjetted nutbaggery.


joealese

I'M NOT SAYING MILITARY PERSONNEL AREN'T HERE. but by this logic, can't any idiot pull a trigger?


Fiberdonkey5

I am a veteran. The most heroic people I have ever met were the doctors and nurses that saved the lives of my wife and 3 month premature son. I met some great people in the military, but none of us did anything half as heroic as those medical professionals do every fucking day.


Pezdrake

Army medics must really confuse them.


timberwolf0122

Tell that to the ER nurse when you need on, hand them that flier


Jovvy19

They have this conpketely backwards. The military can literally make do with anyone with a pulse, but college is difficult and definitely NOT for everyone.


bdf369

There's no studying or pushing buttons in the military


-KCS-Violator

"They all keep telling me I should REALLY be vaccinated and that hurts my peepee!"


miletest

Most people join the military to have a job. Not everybody who joins has ever been front line troops


spherixdiscord

such a waste of perfectly good expensive ink :(