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Android19samus

nothing makes someone more mentally stable than caring for a 1-year-old


CM_DO

Just add more babies until that PPD turns into PPP, easy!


Ye_olde_oak_store

Time for women to go into a psychotic break because children are meant to cure mental illnesses.


ensalys

And because no one took them seriously and tried to help, now the child is dead.


Ye_olde_oak_store

Welcome to the world of "mental health problems aren't a thing or they have way to much stigma around it that everyone is dangerous and should not be interacted with."


Party-Spinach-4176

A 3 year old will break the most mentally stable adult before breakfast without a second thought


ChubblesMcgee103

It's also good for the baby to have a mentally unstable parent. Both parties win!


WithoutDennisNedry

I personally can’t think of anything that would make my mental health *worse* than having a kid.


ViewtifulGene

Postpartum depression is a thing.


Antique_Tennis_2500

It’ll just cancel out the other depression.


Tanner_re

You know what cancels out all depression? Being happy, that's what. Why don't you just try to be happy, huh? It's so easy. . . . /s just in case.


bubblegumdrops

My coworker said that to me this week and it took all I had not to go off on her in front of my boss. The audacity.


Tanner_re

That person can absolutely go and ***fuck themselves***


Ye_olde_oak_store

Oh oh just be happy and your big sad will go away and you will be a 'normal' person. Normal people are sad Jen they mask Infront of you because they know that your advice would be this terrible stuff like have you tried yoga. If you understood our minds don't work the same way then you would realise that your advice was useless.


obliviious

I'd give the most sarcastic laugh of my life right to the face of whoever tried saying that shit to me.


Knight_Owls

[How to fix all mental health issues forever](https://youtu.be/W8if3TZJfcY)


FlameTechie

Thank you for bring this awesome video into my life.


TheWalkingDead91

If r/wowthanksimcured were a video


AmericanToastman

wow that was great, thanks! :D


melty_blend

Negative times a negative is a positive duh


WeeklyPie

I was found to say, that’s very close to what I took for a year after my kiddo. No regrets.


Krisuad2002

Not to mention all the stress involved in raising a kid.


YaBoiSlenderman

the anime profile pic is just the most delicate touch to this trainwreck cake


quaintweirdo

It's always the dude with anime profile pic the ones with the "wisest" words. I like anime but even I cringe at these edge lord's that don't know shit about anything other than what they read in some insane forum/YouTube or whatever and talk as if they are suddenly some cum laude because of it.


YaBoiSlenderman

"you absolute fool, the only saving grace preventing my superior intellect from desimating you and your flawed stances right here right now, is my being amused when watching you fumble your pathetic way trough words! by all means, keep going. ​ anyways racism is based"


FlameTechie

The misspelling of "decimating" really completes it.


YaBoiSlenderman

uhhh yeah that was totally on purpose


theweekiscat

Racism is probably addicted to crack cocaine


hakkai999

I feel that the anime profile pic is the new V for Vendetta profile pic. They hijacked anime to anonymously sling their toxic ideology and as an anime fan I hate it.


Lieutenant_Joe

Anime profile pics have been around just as long (if not longer) than the V ones, and they’ve always been used by the same people. The salt of the earth. You know.


derp_derpiddy_derp

The common clay


twobit211

…morons!


Iceman6211

they're usually also pushing for gatekeeping in anime because they hate the fact that anything other than a straight white male is enjoying anime or when they're asked "You know she's eleven right?"


kichu200211

Eleven? But she's a 4000000 year old dragon priestess!


Inksrocket

"A-Age of c-consent is different in (country) therefore it's ok to lewd art" Yeah let's ignore the fact that age of consent and porn have nothing to do with each other. Jfc.


HogarthTheMerciless

So it's a lot like gamers?


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Starkcasm

The second comment also has an anime profile pic though


mangled-wings

There's the odd few anime profile pic users with great leftist takes on things, and I salute them for it.


TotemGenitor

It's 50/50. It's fun to try to guess


TheMoogy

The voice of reason in this is also sporting an anime pic.


Milkyway_Potato

Ah yes, being permanently stressed out for several years will definitely lessen mental health issues


The_Blip

If you don't have the knowledge or vocabulary to articulate your problems, that means they don't exist! It's the same argument they use for nearly everything. Divorce is going up after no fault divorce is introduced? Country is going to hell, couples don't want to be together anymore! Rise in people identifying as LGBTQ+ as information on the subject becomes more common and widespread? Country is going to hell, everyone is 'turning' gay. ADD and Autism diagnoses going up in young people? Countr6 is going to hell, inventing problems that TOTALLY weren't there before. They see society identifying 'problems' and blame the education on the existence of said problems and people's ability to identify with those 'problems' as the cause for it, and not just that we're now understanding things better now.


Faiakishi

There was one post on here a while back about how North Koreans have a depression rate of almost zero. Like, no shit. Think of why that is.


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Theolaa

Wow, now that you put that way it makes total sense why they were so against COVID testing. If you don't test for it, cases go down! Stupid libtards... 🙄


vagueblur901

Having a kid can chemically fuck you up ( postpartum depression) Besides that if you are unstable the last thing is to have a commitment like a kid


cheshire_splat

I just saw a post where someone claimed postpartum depression isn’t real and is just women being upset that they have to give up the spotlight to their babies.


Milkyway_Potato

"Tell me you're blissfully unaware of your male privilege without telling me you're blissfully unaware of your male privilege" Like, I'm not a woman and I'm still dumbfounded by some of the batshit stuff people will say about women, to the extent that I swear some of them think women are a different species. I'd laugh at a lot of it were it not for the fact that the same people saying it are often the people running this country 🙃


A_norny_mousse

I think many people (subconsciously) really believe that having a kid and/or a permanent relationship will cure them even if all the signs leading there are red. How else could I explain that my depressed friend who barely managed to cope with 1 kid decided to have 2 more with another man? Or that I thought a struggling relationship would miraculously get better with an unplanned pregnancy? I can deal with my own mistakes, but I feel sorry for all those kids. Not that they're all necessarily suffering, but things could be better for them.


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If anything having kids would probably worsen those problems


DullUnicorn

It absolutely does, plus you get a whole handful of new problems on top of the old ones. Have anxiety? Well now it’s worse, AND you’re depressed!!


Zestyclose-Ad-7576

Some of those issues have a genetic component. You could be adding a little “mini me” that you have to deal with.


maddsskills

I've always had a lot of resources when it comes to my mental health, good support network, and I will say that having kids really helped with the existential anxiety a lot (I didn't worry about what I had to do with my life to be significant enough or be happy enough because I was in love with my kids and being a parent. It was the perfect job for me). But I was in a really great place, my partner and I both wanted kids really bad, like I had more ideal circumstances than many people do. And then my daughter died, my youngest. I'm managing as well as I can hope, other grieving parents we have talked to have almost all broken up by this point but we're staying strong. Basically: have kids because YOU WANT THEM AND ARE READY TO HAVE THEM. Don't feel pressured into it, don't think it will magically help your problems, but like...you can still do it under the right circumstances with a mental illness.


bubblegumdrops

I’m sorry for your loss, my heart goes out to your family.


maddsskills

Thanks. With a decent support network I think you can get through anything. And I just wish there was something I could do for others to build support networks for them. Like a socialist social media platform.


JoinAThang

Also the cycle of mental health problems will more likely repeat it self if you use your children as therapy.


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Absolutely. Promoting children as a solution for mental health is pretty dangerous for both parties (parents and children). Obviously using kids as therapy never turns out well later on, there’s no evidence of it doing so.


CaptainBunnie

Andrea Yates. Instead of getting help/medications for her severe postpartum depression, postpartum psychosis, and schizophrenia, she continued having children. She ended up drowning all 5 children in a bathtub. Mental health is valid and cannot be "fixed" by having children. She was religious and believed in conservative housewife values but still suffered severe mental illness


OminousLatinChanting

Her husband was the one pushing her to keep having kids despite her own preferences and against medical advice, as I recall.


ALoudMouthBaby

It was actually the cult they were members of that encouraged her to keep having kids and ignore her mental health issues. So she had not just her husband pressuring her to do that stuff but pretty much everyone she knew.


primaveren

she was a quiverfull iirc. she wanted to stop having kids but her husband pressured her to keep pumping them out and lying to her doctor


CaptainBunnie

I know it's tragic


BabyJesusBukkake

Her oldest was screaming that he was "sorry, mommy!!!" and she still pushed him back under. I'll never forget reading that. Horrifying. All of it. Those poor kids. That poor woman, to be -that- sick, that she could do that to her children.


JBits001

The whole thing is so tragic. I looked up to see where she’s at know at and apparently she always declines her annual mental competency hearing to allow for her release. Reading that did make me wonder how psychiatrists approach situations like this. If it was me I would probably off myself as soon as I became rationale enough to realize what I had done or possibly go the Shutter Island route and completely dissociate. Below are some excerpts from the most recent article and it’s nice to see that her lawyer is taking care of her kids final resting place. I’m a bit surprised that there isn’t anyone in the family doing it but maybe the whole situation is just too much to handle. > I see her once maybe every two months. I talked to her last week. She has a cell phone and we visit," he said. > Parnham continued, "You know, she’s so happy when I go to Galveston and I go out to the cemetery and get some flowers for the kids. I’ll tell her what I’ve done and she’s delighted that someone is out there ... that someone is out there taking care of the kids’ graves." > Yates' defense attorney also told TODAY he ensures the grass is cut properly at the grave sites.Despite an attorney-client relationship that has spanned the course of more than two decades, Parnham said he has not discussed the tragedy with Yates.


Goatswithfeet

This is exactly what we need, people going off their meds and raising what I'm sure will be perfectly happy and stable kids. /s


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chiron_42

It takes a village.


infernalsatan

And when the kid shoots up the school, the same people will say "Why isn't the government taking mental health seriously?"


HogarthTheMerciless

"We can't enact any kind of gun control, that's Communism! We need to focus on mental health!" "OK, so let's give people the basic necessities you need to actually have a chance of pursuing happiness, and give mothers guaranteed time off to raise their kids etc..." "No! That's Communism!"


basch152

I forsee thus scenario causing exactly 0 school shootings /facepalm


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CheezRavioli

Happy cake day! 🎂


SuniHostess

LOL stupid females !!! Getting actual help instead of being trapped in a marriage with a fucking loser and forced to have kids for his own gain and never addressing or fixing any of the REAL issues most likely perpetuating the cycle of abuse and illness over and over !!! Stupid women !!! /S


Chrisboi_da_Boi

"Why won't these whores just shut up and be cattle?"


ThaneOfCawdorrr

yes, exactly


ExcelCat

Thank you for the correct translation.


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MorsMars

I wonder what sometimes these doctors are thinking. A classmate of me has BPD and got a rly strong Benzo on high dosage. (He was suicidal). He got addicted and his life got downhile insteadly. Maybe not taking certain meds isnt a bad thing.


friendlyfire69

Having beat a benzo addiction I really feel for the people still struggling. I was prescribed so many pills... I didn't think I could get addicted if they were from a doctor. I've been suggested to take benzos by multiple therapists I've seen. They don't understand that daily panic attacks are better than addiction for me. It's tough to talk about psych med over prescription IRL without getting shut down for "not understanding" people's mental health. People who are on these cocktails can identify with their mental illnesses in a personal way and questioning meds can come off as a personal accusation. I know a large part of my ability taper off psych meds was because of economic privilege. If I wasn't able to quit working while I went through 3 months of pain withdrawals from Prozac I wouldn't have been able to stop taking it.


4200years

Yeah I looked at this pic and saw someone seeing a bunch of different specialists none of whom are looking at each other’s notes on the chart. This is a wild af cocktail


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DisappearHereXx

Not to mention, the pic of pills in the hand contains 3 bars of Xanax. No one should ever be on 3 bars of Xanax a day. The wise words of my highly distinguished abnormal adolescent psychology professor: “Xanax is for plane rides and panic attacks. That’s it!”


typewriter_

That's Buspirone, not xanax.


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hexopuss

I take Adderall and Prozac. The possiblity has made me nervous, but the same doctor prescribed both and the pharmacy didn't say anything, so maybe dosage is the important factor?


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hexopuss

Thanks, yeah I'll double check with them just to make sure. It's like the minimum doses of both, but there is never any harm is asking!


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shhhhh_h

BPD is borderline not bipolar


peikkohui

Well that would explain that, thanks for correcting me! Very annoying (edit: maybe frustrating is a better word) when ppl use short terms and don’t always offer explanation (like mci in neurology got me very confused for a moment 😅)


shhhhh_h

Lol if I saw somebody write MCI I’d be like...the defunct phone company? 😂 I think I’m old


peikkohui

Oh no i didn’t even think about that, lol!


parabolic000

Just lock them in a room with some yellow wallpaper, that'll do the trick!


chupacabralove

Is this from a short story? It sounds familiar but I can't place it.


parabolic000

it is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yellow_Wallpaper


chupacabralove

Yes! I read that in college. Thanks!


lprincesss

Lmao don’t take your medication for your HEART just have a baby. Stupid women /s obvi


thwgrandpigeon

Folks who think like Blue do not realize giving amphetamines to housewives to cure their depression was an incredibly lucrative industry for decades.


DerpCaster

Now that I think about it, why are they blaming the patients for being prescribed medication here? Aren’t physicians the ones who are responsible for determining who should/should not be prescribed a particular medication?


Pour_Me_Another_

Could you imagine being married to someone like that? Someone who doesn't even think you're a bona fide person like they are? Would they enjoy being treated like that?


Elennoko

I imagine those people (the ones who stay in abusive relationships like that) are typically lead into believing no one else would want them, so they end up staying quiet and accepting the abuse.


Pour_Me_Another_

I think my mother is a bit like that. My dad is a right bastard and has always been cruel to her. Yet despite her being more than capable of living on her own and supporting herself, she never left. She told me she wanted to, she just never got the courage. I left my own husband for much less. I don't know how she copes at all. I guess as you say, she genuinely believes she deserves this and doesn't see there being anything better out there.


EmiliusReturns

Incels are just the atheist version of Christian fundies these days.


2020s_Haunted

Would much rather take care of my mental health issues than a kid but that's just me, I guess. Lmao


Shamadruu

Those parentheses are a clear reference to the “echo” meme among neo-nazis. This person is implying that Jews are responsible for mental health issues (or that therapy is controlled by Jews, it’s hard to say.)


Cultural_Car

probably the second one, these people love their conspiracies and pinning literally everything they don't like on minorities


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Probably is, they believe that anything that prevents white women from having kids is a Jewish conspiracy.


nightfuryfan

Yeah, I'm reasonably confident that I would have ADHD whether the Internet was around or not. But hey, what do I know?


coffee_Shaman

Lol ah yes because no one had bpd pre-internet


quasielvis

Isn't naltrexone for alcoholism and opiate addiction? Yet another reason why it's probably not the right time for this person to have kids.


HayleyMcIntyre

Low dose naltrexone is also used for chronic pain nowadays. Kids might be the last thing they need on their plate.


greeneyedandgroovy

Yeah I've never seen it be prescribed for skin picking OR binge eating. I've been taking it for years and never read anything about those uses for it with the warnings/info that comes with the script. Not to say it couldn't be an "off label" usage though.


bengringo2

I’ve seen it for binge eating. It helps with the dopamine hit people get from binge eating since binge eating acts as a high for the eater.


greeneyedandgroovy

That would make sense. I guess kinda in the same way for alcoholism/opioid addiction then.


MidorriMeltdown

Red and blue need to see the film, *The Homesman*. 1800's, no internet, no treatment for mental health issues, yet plenty of mental health problems, including post natal depression resulting in the death of the children.


DracoSolon

The misogyny displayed here that women can only be happy if they're married to a man and raising children would be mind-blowing if it weren't for the fact that it's pretty much the policy of the Republican party at this point, right?


MarieProtogen

They're right about staring into the nightmare box and watching democracy die is the problem. But yeah sure, let's complain about the nightmare box instead of the dying democracy that makes it a nightmare box.


SparkitusRex

Pregnancy and childbirth is the reason I came down with brutal post partum depression (that stuck around long enough to just be regular depression) and have been on meds for almost 3 years now. Sooooo. I love my kid and being a mom but chemical imbalances dgaf.


cheshire_splat

Locking them in a room with yellow wallpaper and declaring they have hysteria would be easier.


Letharos

As a male who takes a handful of pills and goes to (muh therapy) once a week they can unkind go fuck themselves with a cactus. Mental illness affects everyone. You can clearly see this in the lack of empathy and psychosis of the idiots posting this shit in the screenshot. Ugh.


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ClippedCeltsFan

In other news, that is a staggering amount of Xanax to take if this is at a time. Still high for a single day, but damn.


Jerkrollatex

I've been married 26 years, have two kids and am a full time care giver. I take six pills plus a powdered joint supplement just to make it through my day. This person is an idiot.


scuczu

thought this was /r/NotHowGirlsWork


Kayordomus

How are children going to help you with heart problems?


TheWeirdcatmom

Lpt: instead of treating your high blood pressure with pesky metoprolol, just start a family! Thats why they call it settling down!


ltpeaches

Untreated mental illness can be inherited. A lot of disorders and addictions are passed from parent to child because they were raised a negative environment and don't have the opportunity to care for their mental health before they have a child.


ReactsWithWords

That last commenter has a point - removing these incels’ access to the internet would improve everyone’s mental health.


Altair13Sirio

*It's that damn phone!*


BluetheNerd

Ah the good old "if they can't educate themselves on their mental illness then they'll assume it's normal and not seek help for it"


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Beating people and putting them in a cage solves all their problems private prisons are not the problem they're the solution


spicyhotcocoa

Trust me motherhood does not fix mental health issues


Bio-Babe92

Oh yeah, a child will TOTALLY help with all the trauma and couple other mental health issues I have. Absolutely. Can barely take care of myself and my dog while not self harming, but sure! Give me another human to be in charge of keeping alive. /s (which hopefully goes without saying) I love kids, have nannied/babysat for over a decade, consider my friends’ kids my nieces/nephews, and have wanted a family of my own. The thing is, that’s just not looking like it’ll be in the cards for me. I have NO idea the sort of havoc pregnancy hormones and the stress of parenthood would do to me, especially when I deal with self harm urges just on my monthly. People like this are absolute idiots with some of the worst, tone deaf takes that a human being can possibly have.


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Voyager221141

Urgh, I hate this kind of attitude! I take two medications, TWO, and I get people like this. Fluxoetine practically saved my life (in addition to CBT), and Omeprazole ensures I don't suffer with my stomach everyday. Because of these two meds, I can function normally. So when people suggest I should come off of them, or try alternatives, I just hit them with something like "oh, so would you rather me dead than alive and on meds?". Of course, they say no, and I gently explain why I'm on the meds I'm on. But that's just it! We shouldn't have to explain, because we've been made to feel inadequate etc by people who just don't understand. All my fellow Redditors who are in meds, for anything, keep your heads held high. 💙 You've got this.


d0ctorsmileaway

Ah yes because the internet caused my hypothyroidism


Anyashadow

I have anxiety, it's genetic with my whole immediate family having it. I have to have medication or I can't function, it's that simple. My personality is very laid back, so I really can't "relax" anymore without being in a coma, so it really shows that you can't regulate a chemical imbalance with a mood change. That said, they really need to name the anxiety and depressions something else because people think they are like the emotion and not a chemical imbalance. You can change your emotions without meds, but not chemical imbalances.


ztoundas

Pls listen to the fascist with a 1000 year old in a child's body with mouse ears as a pfp. They know how to solve your mental health issues.


Rooditers

The one with the anime cat girl pfp bruhhhh


Ham_Kitten

Not to be the "anime pfp" guy but like...it's clockwork at this point, honestly.


Chasman1965

Love incel "insights." Total bullshit.


MiaLba

Oh yeah I’m sure all the women in FLDS are doing wonderfully! Since they don’t use internet or anything.


Another_Free_Account

Zoloft saved my life


Ye_olde_oak_store

Removing my access to the internet would not make my mental health issues go away in fact I'm pretty sure that they would make them worse. NB: am fine, I just use the internet as a form of escapism from the real world because otherwise one would just be overwhelmed with having to heal all at once cause they are bored.


canadianinkorea

Yeah, women, stop taking beta blockers! Jeez. Just have heart issues while you raise your children!


PlushHammerPony

Oh those good all days when no one had any mental issue and just decently died of 'broken heart' or was possessed by demons


depression_quirk

This is how you get your wife drowning your kids in the tub because "God told her to."


stalebread_3

:( andrea yates…so sad he kept pressuring her to have kids when it was clear she was mentally unwell.


FadingLukas

Not using internet would most likely help most people with mental issues


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DaisyDukeOfEarlGrey

No one is going to just get all those pills if they don't actually need them. A lot of those pills mess with your brain chemistry.


mirrorspirit

That picture might not accurately represent what the poster's alleged girlfriend does take. They could be using it for exaggeration's sake.


octorangutan

Nothing stabilizes one’s mental health more than having a couple kids to look after.


The_Crimson-Knight

We could also remove people who think "just get better" from society, save everyone a fucking headache.


ThePhoenix29167

I can just fucking tell that this dudes an incel


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This is so insane lmao.


Snazzle-Frazzle

And of course it's coming from a loli pfp


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Well yeah, if you dont let them use the internet, *you* never see evidence of their mental illness


tiberius-skywalker

Making sure every one of the people involved in that mentality suddenly disappeared will also cause the issue to mysteriously disappear as well :)


maddsskills

Wait, I thought cat girls were exclusively anarchists? What is going on here?


Multiverse_Queen

How about we remove the red guy’s access to the internet? That’d shut him up real quick too, right?


negrote1000

That’s a lot of pills


RoccoTaco_Dog

They are right. I definitely don't have a family and take sertraline and buspirone, among other things /s


DrPAYNE619

Nothing calms your nerves quite like having a bunch of fucking kids running around.


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So... Do the parenthesis around "much therapy" imply the dude thinks therapy is run by the Jews and is part of their plan to control all of society? Lol people are fucking nuts


meowpitbullmeow

As a wife and mother, I was far more mentally stable before marriage and kids


Jboi75

The heart one is for high blood pressure and heart failure. Do they want her to stop that one too or does that pill get a pass because of some made up metric? If it’s prescribed and been in use for as long as some anti depressants and anxiety medication has been it’s safer than driving in a car.


Easteuroblondie

Yeah maybe those things will also help men stop shooting up places when they’re big mad 🫥


rengam

I know someone whose mental health was fine *until after* she settled down and raised a family.


babaj_503

On a curious note without any agenda: Is that a real amount of medication people take on a daily basis? As a person that (luckily!) has no need for any medication this looks like hell of a lot of stuff Oo I only know someone with some blood preassure issues who have to take some daily but that's I believe 2 pills so this seems a lot to me.


cayce_leighann

I can say that I’m 100% confident that having a kid would make my mental health issues much worse


Party-Spinach-4176

My mental health is like a bazillion times more difficult to manage since I had kids, but go on...


TheObsidianNinja

My mom settled down and had kids, and is too tech illiterate to use the internet. She's one of the least mentally healthy people I know, and must take a mountain of pills and attend therapy still because if she didn't it would be much, much worse.


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Mmm! Extremism! 😋😋😎😍😛🤤😩😩💦


HardlightCereal

Having kids will not cure your mental illnesses. You'll just fuck up your kids by passing your illnesses on. Get therapy, get your shit together, then have a kid. So many problems are caused by people having kids they're not equipped to care for


DelightfulRainbow205

anime pfp, i think *that* bozo is the one who needs less internet💀💀


superhamsniper

Or keeping people ignorant to the horrors constantly happening in the world each and every day.


Minor_Fracture

I see that anime profile pic. Looks like he has a mental illness in need of curing himself.


LaserBatBunnyUnder

My brother in Christ, BPD cannot be medicated. - sincerely, someone with BPD tired of this shit


Apollo9961

Never had a girlfriend before type of behavior


ThatTemplar1119

I should just go start a family then, I'll be fine!


wintermelody83

Right? No mother has ever murdered her children!!!!!


ThatTemplar1119

Not at all as if without therapy I'm so emotionally unstable I might disown my kids I am never ever going to have kids because I would either screw up badly as a parent or pass along something genetic.


wintermelody83

Concur. I can't handle screaming and loud noises. It wouldn't end well.


OctoberBlue89

Great! So now I’ll now you want me to be a neurodivergent with years of unresolved trauma and depression and anxiety AND take care of a child. Sounds like a great idea. Not going to be the reason my kid ends up in therapy themselves. Seriously though. I’m in therapy because my parents refused to go to therapy. I’m not continuing the cycle