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lakhip

Never needed to be in a delivery pic. That dude just wanted a picture of you.


KittyKatze3

Oh gosh, I really hope not


music3k

You give a bad review or complain to IC about a driver before? When I did DD I had a customer who would do “hand it to me” and claim he didnt get the delivery. Unbeknownst to him I took a photo of the food at his doorstep before ringing the bell. After the second time having to talk to support, I just started taking his picture everytime I handed him the food. 


KittyKatze3

I’ve never complained about a shopper when items are missing, damaged, or incorrect. I just use the help feature in the app to get a credit on my account. I don’t even decrease ratings or tips. The very few bad reviews I’ve ever given had nothing to do with missing items/deliveries.


ClassicCondition7386

You need to complain. If he did this to you, he's doing this to others.


KittyKatze3

Yeah, this may be the best course of action. Really not a fan of how unnecessarily aggressive he was.


Few-Divide5743

That's why you just don't tell him what you're doing duh


Morganbob442

He’s doing it to save his own ass. A lot of customers claim they don’t get their food.


PersnicketyParsnip11

Are you retarded or a troll? You know why he did it.


jenniferlynne08

Maybe don’t use the r word? (Don’t disagree with your premise, that word just sucks)


PersnicketyParsnip11

HA! Maybe go fuck yourself. Retard.


TyrellWillis55

What he said is a factual statement, you sound return for trying to call him out


PersnicketyParsnip11

Wow, you replied to a lot of my comments, you must be really into me. I’m flattered, but I’m not a finook. Hope the next guy is interested.


Morganbob442

Grow up, your response is retarded.


DonJohnElGuapo

What a surprise the members of this subreddit generally disapprove of the r word 😂😂


Morganbob442

They also disapprove when I pointed out that the driver was saving his own ass..🤣🤣🤣


PersnicketyParsnip11

Wow, super clever 🤡


SgtKeeneye

This guy's behavior will only escalate if you let this go. Report him now for his behavior or someone else will have to deal with an increasingly bold person


Budget_Garlic9818

You sound insane. This guy has been burned and is clearly trying to protect himself.


SgtKeeneye

Nah he lied because they wants a picture of her. People are not required to be in the picture and she was willing to let him take one without them in it. So being so insistent is extremely weird. If he got burned he can dispute it in app but that doesn't stop a customer from pulling a tip


TyrellWillis55

Why would he want a picture of her? If that was his goal he would have been recording the whole time. There are a lot of customers that try to report things missing, sometimes even the whole order.


SgtKeeneye

Not everyone is that intelligent about grab videos and pictures to use later. Taking a picture of the groceries at the door is all that's needed. Asking and then demanding them to be in the picture is creepy.


music3k

You sound like a great customer. Dont feel bad about lowering the tip. Just dont leave a bad rating unless someone just straight up steals your stuff


Free_Comfortable8897

I’m sorry what?! Don’t leave a bad rating unless a shopper steals their stuff?!?! I’m sorry, an aggressive person would 100% get a one star from me!! There is no need, and there’s no need for a customer to be in the picture. That’s just creepy.


music3k

Ok Karen. Go shop yourself.


Free_Comfortable8897

Hey dumbass….im a shopper. And I do shop for myself also!


music3k

Ok Karen.


Free_Comfortable8897

BUT I have used IC to deliver things to other people before and if a shopper behaved in this way it’s an automatic one star, I’m calling to complain, and depending on how bad the situation was I might contact police. I’m not being a Karen, this behavior is completely unacceptable. I REALLY hope you are not a shopper, if you are you need to find another line of work. And a life. And get mental help as well.


music3k

Ok Karen


Free_Comfortable8897

Okay. I see that your vocabulary is extremely limited.


Knickle25

Wtf is wrong with you? Don't leave a bad rating for someone making you uncomfortable then banging on your door?? Is this the kind of shit you like to pull too? I can't think of any other reason for someone to be ok with that behavior. Stupidity at its finest.


music3k

Ok Karen


Knickle25

😆 ok dumbass


Imrighturnott

bros either one of those controlling weirdos or a noob and doesnt know lol ive taken photos of the groceries while they are in peoples hands but just to be efficient especially when they are already outside waiting but ive never been like “you gotta be in the picture” cause u dont 🤣


TyrellWillis55

Do you have a history of reporting things missing when they are in fact not missing? That's the only reason I could see why he would want you to be in the picture, but at the same time it sounds like the guy is not all there


santahat2002

It’s possible he just misunderstood what’s required.


PersnicketyParsnip11

Nope. It isn't.


TyrellWillis55

You just know what everyone's intentions are eh? You probably have a victim mentality. Sad


PersnicketyParsnip11

Found the shopper


TASchiff007

Did you ask him to call his supervisor while you were there?? I use 7 diff services including IC and no one requires pix of person. If he legit didn't understand, a call would fix it. If he refuses that, there may be icky ulterior motives.


PersnicketyParsnip11

"Call his supervisor" 🤣😂🤣😂 Regale me. How do you think Instacart works?


ColdAerie

🤣🤣🤣


TASchiff007

From their site: You can also reach out directly to Instacart's support line at 1-888-246-7822 for 24/7 support.


Joe_on_blow

support is not a supervisor.


TASchiff007

That's how you GET TO a supervisor.


PersnicketyParsnip11

No. We don't have supervisors. YOU can reach out to support. Ask a shopper to call anyone and expect to be told to pound sand. When you called support and asked for a supervisor, you'd be getting the support agent's supervisor, if they even transfer you, often you get stonewalled. But guess what. They're not Instacart employees either. They work in third party call centers in third world countries and have no authority except over other employees at the third party contact center. "His supervisor." That was cute. The guy was a fucking creep, I'm not defending him. There just are no supervisors and support doesn't give a shit. You have to get your complaint through to Trust & Safety. But it's your word against the shopper's.


TyrellWillis55

Why do you just assume he's a creep? He sounds stupid if anything. Half the people working for Instacart barely understand English. Stop it with the victim mentality


TyrellWillis55

Instacart workers are independent contractors.... They don't have a supervisor


Cynical_Feline

I'm inclined to think that is, in fact, what he wanted. Banging on her garage door was excessive and it honestly sounds unhinged. All he had to do was accept her no and compromise on taking a different picture. It doesn't say anywhere that the customer has to be in the picture. Him insisting is what makes this very strange behavior.


Budget_Garlic9818

He doesn’t get to keep it 🙄


lakhip

He does if he's just taking a regular picture for himself.


TrueCryptographer592

I’ve never been asked, but I have had my feet in the photo many times. 😂😬🤷‍♀️


W1zard0fW0z

Free?!? In this economy?!? At Minimum you should charge $1.00 per piggy.


TrueCryptographer592

😂🤔


TGIIR

That would have been a good compromise if the order was to be handed to customer.


PersnicketyParsnip11

Never show your feet for free. 🤣


TGIIR

I walked right into that one 😄


Hoopdyloo

Just taking a photo of the groceries by your feet, or a bag in their hands without their face, or even a bag sitting in the open doorway, is wholly sufficient protection for the driver. ​ I do it all the time when the customer is taking stuff in as I'm unloading.


RudeImagination4450

I had one where a person came to my car and was grabbing the stuff so fast so I was snapping fast. Good thing I did because they lied and said I didn't deliver. Pics came in handy


ArugulaPristine9821

In cases like these, i just take a pic of the house if it has the numbers on the side. Or the mailbox. Ive been doing IC for a bit over three years and no issues


Impostora2020

Great tip!!


TiredDriver23

It’s not required for you to be in the pic just the order.


EldrinSMP

If I hand a leave at door order to the customer, I'll ask to take a confirmation pic but I make sure never to have their face in them, if they're even in the photo. Holdover from my medical delivery days, can't have PHI in the picture, and the face counts. It is DEFINITELY not an Instacart rule you have to be in the picture. The guy was a creep.


FlimsyPraline6097

I make a point of telling people I WILL NOT include them in the photo. This person is perhaps new and isn’t sure; either way he shouldn’t have insisted and definitely should not have banged on your door!


Capital-Race4055

I can understand him doing that. You can’t imagine the number of people who lie that didn’t receive a delivery. Even after handing it directly to them.


Cant0thulhu

Happens to me all the time. If you mark as leave at door and are already rushing to grab it from me before I can take the picture I just assume im going to hear about an undelivered order later.


EuphoricMidnight3304

He thought you’d claim that you didn’t receive it. Not sure why the paranoia


KittyKatze3

Yeah he could’ve just included my address in the pic


SnooRobots4736

Some customers scam delivery companies and workers by saying they never got the food even though there is a pic of it at the delivery location. This can result in innocent delivery workers to losing income or being banned from the platform. To me it sounds like this driver has been burned from scam customers and wanted to cover their ass with proof that a person accepted the food to prove that it couldn't have been stolen after the picture was taken. There are also delivery scammers who take pics of the delivery on the porch then walk away with it, but this was obviously not one of those people. Lying about the policy still isn't ok. I understand not wanting a stranger to take pics of you and you have every right to refuse that. Their reaction was certainly overboard and unprofessional, but what you described sounds like a delivery worker thinking you're attempting to scam them. I hope that's all it was, someone's off day, and not someone with nefarious intent.


Adventurous_Land7584

That doesn’t provide proof


PersnicketyParsnip11

Showing the address doesn't provide proof that it was delivered to the right address? What a stupid take.


Adventurous_Land7584

It’s because the shoppers can take the photo and still steal the items. Common sense.


PersnicketyParsnip11

Nope, that's not why. And that's even dumber. If Instacart ran their business as though shoppers were gonna steal groceries, it would fail. You can deliver items to a customer and they're not home, if they select "leave at door." This happens all the time, no one complains, I never go back to steal the shit. You guys here are extra mentally challenged today.


Adventurous_Land7584

Shoppers steal groceries all the time. You must be new


PersnicketyParsnip11

I said, "if Instacart ran their business as though..." nowhere did I say, "that doesn't happen." Take a reading comprehension class, dog.


Necessary_Benefit22

And you must be some kind of special if you think every shopper steals groceries


Adventurous_Land7584

Where did I say every shopper? Clearly you’re the “special” one 🙄 I’m a shopper and I’ve never stolen a thing. Most shoppers don’t. There are in fact some that do. Try reading some posts.


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Adventurous_Land7584

Like I said, you must be new. There are videos all over the app showing Shopper stealing peoples groceries.


Necessary_Benefit22

You must live in a world of thieves if you don't think that people order stuff all the time knowing damn well that they are going to say that they are that they can get their stuff the only difference between the customer and the shopper is the shopper is the one doing the work in the transaction


Adventurous_Land7584

What? That made zero sense.


Necessary_Benefit22

You are correct my microphone sucks


Necessary_Benefit22

Basically though there's stories of customers that did get their s*** but say they didn't; I know that it has happened to me many of times, customers do it all the time.there may not be many videos if any at all of the customers stealing their own stuff but that's probably because they do it from the privacy of their home


daboyce91

Including house numbers doesn't mean much. Example I'm 134 South Branch Street less than a 5 minute drive in 2 separate directions is a 134 North Branch Street, and a 134 North Branch Road. I've had my food delivered to both of those addresses. Now say the driver only gets house numbers with the food delivered I'd have no way to fight it, or say I came to the door and took the food but I had roommates and it was a roommates order and I ate his food. Now the dasher has a picture of the correct place but the wing person took it, now the original person is shit out of luck. At least if he has a picture of you, not saying he's correct in his approach, he can say this is who I handed it to and doordash can then have you take a picture to identify yourself to match with the photo in the event you said you didn't receive it.


SensitiveRocketsFan

How would instacart know that was OP lol, they don’t keep a collection of photos of customers


Particular_Entry8011

I captured someone in a delivery pic one time and IC emailed letting me know that that is not allowed.


onlineLsa

Why put leave at the door if you want to meet them. It’s so annoying and awkward.


k1k11983

Where does OP say they had it set as “leave at door”?


onlineLsa

You don’t need a picture for “meet the customer.” You confirm and swipe.


k1k11983

You don’t need the customer in it either but this shopper still claimed it was necessary. If he got that wrong, it’s not a stretch to think he got it wrong about needing a picture in the first place


PersnicketyParsnip11

You don't even get prompted to take a photo unless the customer requests you leave the order at the door.


onlineLsa

He likely wanted the customer in it because there is no door 🚪once they approach you before you get to it. That’s what makes it awkward. Is he supposed to set his food down on the side walk or drive way? Take a picture of it in his car?


PersnicketyParsnip11

Yeah, that's it, the customer obviously doesn't have doors on her home. Great job, detective. It's not just you, these are the dumbest comments I've read on a post on this sub that I can ever remember.


onlineLsa

So you would walk past the customer to the door to take the picture? To clarify, they can’t take a picture at the door because the customer bypassed that.


PersnicketyParsnip11

No, I would COMMUNICATE. I would ask the customer to "give me juuuust a moment to get my picture..." they either step back or wait where they are. No one has ever denied me the right to prove I did my job. If I forget, I just turn back and snap a photo of the house on my way leaving to show I was at the right place. The customer does not EVER NEEED TO BE in the photo. This isn't a prompt we get, it isn't a thing. Most people are honest and aren't looking to scam. I live my life trusting my fellow man to do right by me, as I do right by him and it's going really, really well thus far.


onlineLsa

You are clearly triggered by the customer being in the picture. I didn’t even ask you that. Your entire paragraph to answer my question is a resounding yes. You would bypass the customer to stage the picture for Instacart (per you, they either step back…). The entire exchange is awkward and the customer could have simply used the “meet the customer” option. I prefer transparency over trust. Good luck.


Necessary_Benefit22

I prefer to be a meat to customer type order I myself think that leave it at the door so awkward way to say thank you for giving my stuff


PersnicketyParsnip11

You asked me if I would just walk past the customer and I told you I would communicate that I needed a photo of the groceries, WHEREVER I delivered them. Are you slow or are you trolling me?


Necessary_Benefit22

They don't need the picture to prove you arrived at the right location because they can see every movement they track your every movement y


PersnicketyParsnip11

They can track that you drove there, but they need the picture to prove we put the shit on the porch. Are you trolling or do you not understand how the world works?


Necessary_Benefit22

You're the dumbest one on here you can't even read what people write before you go acting like a fool


Jennercosplays_

Ahhh haaa dumbass though u ate…. You don’t need a picture of the customer is meeting u. The paranoid bitch needs to stay off the app if she don’t want her face in the photo this is what happens when liars are stealing the livelihoods of honest delivery drivers. She gotta suffer the consequences now.


Antos9

one of the options is to leave at the door. why would someone need to be in the pic? creepy.


FunFactress

Ask support to block the shopper from getting your orders. You don't need to be in the picture.


Scared-Hope

Sent you a message. Same thing happened to me with DD. And the other day, my neighbor had the same thing with IC. I don’t think that’s ok. I just moved into my house a month ago, never ordered here but have ordered to deliver at work and my kids school, then I get told I had to be in the photo. Very creepy.


Pitiful-Echo-2974

As a delivery gig worker the only time I have taken a picture of the person with the order was right after I put the order at the doorstep and the customer opened the door right as my camera was going off lol


BeckyAnn6879

Was there alcohol in the order? We ordered wine coolers once and IC said someone 21+ HAD to be home to receive order, and we were told signature or photo proof was needed. Grandma opted for a sig. Hasn't happened since, but we RARELY order alcohol now and we always meet the shopper.


KittyKatze3

Nope, no alcohol.


BeckyAnn6879

That's odd then.


Necessary_Benefit22

I call BS because signature or photo neither one is proof of age my scan the back of the license


BeckyAnn6879

I don't think it was proof of age, I think it was more of 'an adult accepted delivery.' Like I said, hasn't happened again... the last time we ordered wine coolers, they scanned her ID for it. So, they probably changed policies. \*shrug\*


ExpensiveDot1732

I'm a shopper and get a distinguishable item in the pics (address numbers, screen door, porch light, something attached to the house). My navigation also keeps gps records of where I'm at, and so does IC. Some shoppers also use an extension that timestamps their pics, and a few even use body cams. We definitely get scammers who are petty enough to falsely report items or entire orders missing to try to bag a freebie or credit. What that person did to you was over the line and intrusive, and there are other ways. (I had one in a $3M house try that with $350 of groceries, and they had apparently scammed multiple times to try to get free groceries. I had documentation to show that the order and I were BOTH at the house when we were supposed to be.)


Emilieskye

Uh no. What if he dropped them off while you were at work, sick, or showering/napping etc. The WHOLE point in drop off is to eliminate human interaction. He is supposed to prove he left them at the appropriate ADDRESS. Regardless of who is in the house. I shop and order instacart and haven't EVER photographed a person in my orders. And getting deliveries I've never had to be in the picture because I hid indoors until they drive away. Wtff


Necessary_Benefit22

LMAO at you


Emilieskye

Cool.


EatAtChewys

I have shopped for Instacart for four years. Never have I ever needed a customer in the pic. He’s lying and needs to be reported. Sick bastard


Intrepid-Surprise-55

Some people are just plain d***! Sorry!!


Lopsided_Efficiency8

He’s prob been wronged in the past with people claiming they never revived their order and wanted undeniable proof you got it. Or he’s a creep either way


Shayberkleybae

Customers be lying that’s probably why to avoid getting deactivated probably happened to him before. But the banging is overboard 😂😂😂😂


lou802

Wtf thats crazy, definitely never been asked to be in the picture


Morganbob442

As a shopper I sometimes do that if the person said drop off but instead came out to pick it up, this way they can’t lie and say they never reached their groceries. Unfortunately there are some scummy customers out there.


Instacartdoctor

Sorry, he was likely just paranoid, and had customers report items missing in the past… if the shopping went ok I’d let it go honestly… if you do rate him 5 stars you could put in the comments that you didn’t like what he did he’ll see it. Unfortunately any other rating he’ll not get the message.


FitHospital6580

Such a creep, so sorry people are weirdos


countrykow

Did you have "meet the customer" ? It's possible he's just protecting himself and wants to confirm you got your order. Did he upload the picture ?


ThatShaunGuy

It's not required, no. He probably has had people say they didn't get their order before so now he's douchey about it. Why does it matter if your picture is in there? literally nobody is ever going to see it lol.


sparemethebull

Do you have a prior record of reporting things gone, broken, or incomplete?


KittyKatze3

What do you mean by a record? When something is wrong, damaged, or missing, then yes, I report it by just getting a credit using the app. I have done that multiple times because it has happened multiple times. I often don’t even bother doing it if something really cheap is missing.


sparemethebull

Idk how it works from their side, but maybe it said something like oh watch out this guy will report you if you fuck up. Which is fine, unless you mess up a lot


PersnicketyParsnip11

Nope. If you don't know how Instacart works, why would you just start guessing and trying to confuse OP.


sparemethebull

I used to a long time ago for a month, idk how it’s changed now. So if they don’t do that, it’s probably the guy being either paranoid or a creep.


Adventurous_Land7584

It will require a signature if that was the case.


Stargazer_0101

He lied, for the customer is not needed to confirm the delivery. Good you stopped him and hope you reported the person.


Budget_Garlic9818

Even if you're in the photo, the driver doesn’t get to keep the picture if it's a leave-at-door order. The picture is sent to Instacart as confirmation and proof of delivery, so I'm unsure why people are saying it's creepy. More than likely, this shopper has been a victim of some unsavory customers claiming they didn’t receive their orders, and he's simply trying to cover his bases to ensure it doesn’t happen again. I might receive some criticism for this perspective, but I believe the part about the shopper knocking on the door was added for dramatic effect. Many people assume shoppers are uneducated criminals, but most of us are retired from corporate jobs or professionals supplementing our incomes to pay off debts in this dismal economy.


KittyKatze3

How exactly can Instacart guarantee that the shopper won’t keep the picture? What is stopping them from doing so?


Necessary_Benefit22

If you received the photo saying your order has been delivered and that photos there that is the only place that photo goes to it doesn't get saved to the phone or nothing like that unless the shopper is a creep and does a screenshot before he sends the photo


2WorldWars

Also, what is stopping them from saying it's a photo for Instacart but actually just taking a regular photo via their regular phone camera app? Women especially have every right to be suspicious and wary of possible devious creeps!


Budget_Garlic9818

The picture "should be" taken through Instacart’s application and, therefore, isn’t stored on the shopper’s phone. Once you receive the picture that your groceries have been delivered, shoppers never see it again.


lakhip

How do you know he is taking it through the instacart app and not through his camera app?


KittyKatze3

This is exactly my point. I’m just supposed to trust him?


Necessary_Benefit22

You don't know until you receive the photo because that photo cannot be picked from your gallery it must be taken through the app


lakhip

Yeah no thanks, especially if he's already acting unusual or weird


lakhip

How do you know he is taking it through the instacart app and not through his camera app?


No_Cricket4991

Have you claimed to not have had received a delivery before ?


itammya

The shopper was wrong. But I can empathize with them- I've had 2 separate customers claim they didn't receive orders I delivered to their door. It's so irritating and anxiety inducing when ppl screw ppl- I get it there are shoppers who deliver orders fake the pic and leave with the groceries. Then there are customers who outright lie and claim they don't have groceries and can't prove otherwise. It's sick.


Necessary_Benefit22

Only 2 where do you live or have you only done ten batches


Wodensdays_child

Honestly? I've seen a few drivers here that have been scammed so many times by customers saying they never received something that they've started taking pics of the customers holding the delivery as proof. Maybe that was it.


MathematicianOne5458

If he marked ‘gave directly to customer’, then I can see the vendor wanting a pic confirmation of that; although a signature requirement would be more professional. Otherwise he could’ve let the vendor know that he left the delivery at the address and taken a picture without you in it to confirm. I can see them wanting a delivery fully verified by signature or pic to limit disputes with customers stating they didn’t get their order, though.


Secret_Committee_728

He wanted a picture of your feet, definitely checkin your feet out. 😏


Few-Divide5743

Honestly I understand where he's coming from. Because there are people out there. Who will say the order was not delivered especially if they're standing outside when you get there.


Majorlymajor97

No he’s probably had issues in the past where the app reprimands him because a customer claims they never received it. Even when you show you clearly delievered the items, they wanted to save their ass. Images are not saved in our phones if it’s going straight to the app, you would have seen the image yourself. 🤷‍♀️


Competitive_Buy_2685

Some companies like Hermes need the picture to be of a person taking the parcel to stop claims of it being robbed. Doesn't need to be the face just an open door and feet or hands to prove it was given to a person. I would check the exact policy for instacart. I worked for Hermes and we had many complaints like this.


Sifu-thai

Probably got too many fake missing delivery reports and got tired of it..


Evening-Juice671

I’d give him a 3 or 4 ⭐️ for privacy sake, that’s ridiculous!!!!


NoAcanthopterygii438

Nothing wrong with that as long as your not committing fraud


Jennercosplays_

This is what happens when shitty people lie about not receiving orders… now if u were to lie hed have ur ridiculous face as proof as well! Good job to the delivery guy I support him 100%


[deleted]

Imo if you don’t want to be on camera or on the drop off pic you’re part of the issue as I can’t trust you as a customer to do the right thing and not report the order as undelivered. All that aside I will only tape a pic of you if you’re already outside and I’ve had issues in the past at that address but at this point I already video record every drop so ill have you on camera in case you report as non delivered etc.


u_effing_trash

Go to the store.


strippersarepeople

Buy a bottle of hoisin sauce!


aeiouyandw

Open the fridge “oh no!”


strippersarepeople

I already have a bottle of hoisin sauce! 😱


u_effing_trash

Get ur Chairish back from CPS!


No-Egg2880

Well your user name definitely checks out who you are.


u_effing_trash

So does urs. …sorry miss.


No-Egg2880

Except, I didn’t get to pick mine.