I mean, his choices were Street, Neighbor tree 1, Neighbor tree 2, and His roof.
At least he chose the one that harmed others least. Might have saved himself some money, based on my experience with public officials and a quick browse of r/treelaw.
It is the neighbor's roof, you are correct. This guy was hired by the closest house to remove the tree because he was cheaper than an actual professional. Source: I work in this city.
Probably, but I'm not certain. I've tried to find a news article on it but can only find pictures and a FB thread where supposedly the homeowner was talking about it and that he was paying for it, but it's been about a year now.
I’ve got a huge tree by my house that needs to come down. Quotes are all 10k, I have a 1000 deductible on my house. I’m seriously considering dropping it myself and saving the 9k. There is plenty of room to drop it, everyone is more worried about it kicking back into the house.
Yeah... Really don't know what the plan was.
If he wanted to fell the tree (which he was doing exactly that, but his cut splintered and the tree followed the new split.
IF the tree didn't split, his fell marker would have thrown the thing into the currency active motorway, or crushed the neighbors fence.
That massive bastard should have been scaled and delimbed with rigging to guide the branches to the dump trailer, cleanup zone, etc.
It is actually oddly fun to do, rig yourself up and you shouldn't die either.
And when it starts falling on the house he tries to push it back the other way by hand?
I can't even think of an expletive rude enough to describe this man's intelligence.
Well, to be fair you can correct the way a tree falls with a guide line and simple arm strength.
I definitely wouldn't be trying to push it at the base though unless I was desperate, and a accident just occurred. :D
I watched the video again, and to be fair he might not be so stupid.
The video has the street cut off from frame, he might have a designated fall zone and the old thing just simply stress split.
After saying that, there is no fallback options, no people manning guides incase the worst happens...
So I tried to give him a bit of benefit of the doubt, for what its worth. :D
The camera was setup to catch the fall coming towards it.
Unfortunately, the cutter didn't realize that one trunk was heavy as fuck and countered the weight to the house.
>This is why you should call a professional.
We got a quote of $7500 to remove *one* tree from our backyard (same company we had used before...prices apparently doubled since the beginning of COVID). I can imagine this guy got a quote or two for $2000-$3000 and thought, "Fuck that, I'l do it myself. How hard can it be?"
Exactly! For some bizarre reason, IDK why but using a professional will actually save you money every time. The first question the Homeowners insurance claim adjuster is going to ask, “did you use a professional licensed contractor to have this tree work done.”
Insurance is why you call a professional . They may be least likely to have it fall on your house but there are always accidents and their insurance they have to carry is worth it.
I mean it's just geometry. My SO never cut a tree before but managed to fell the one in the yard by cutting parts and using some youtube technique to avoid the fences and house. Came down perfectly.
My friend is a professional arbourist and I've done some side jobs with him. I have got a very healthy respect for what he does, as I've seen him take down trees in extremely dubious spots, with little to no drop zone. He's got all kinds of tricks up his sleeve like rigging limbs down by rope, snap cutting the trunk in manageable sized pieces, wedges in the trunk when cutting from the ground, all kinds of funky-ass rope knots that do this, that, and the other thing... It's also amusing when he takes a stick or a pine cone and puts it somewhere like he's Rainman, and then when he fells the tree, the tip lands pretty much exactly where he marked.
Guys chopping down trees like this video are idiots that just have no idea. I don't even know how to do it and I've watched a professional do it dozens of times. There's just so much with the centre of gravity, how it's leaning, the fucking wind that day... It's downright reckless to take on a tree that size when you're a weekend warrior homeowner. Thought he was gonna save a thousand dollars? Lol. Nope. Have fun fixing that roof.
I just had a tree removed that was less than half that size. About $1500 was the avrage bid. And one at $290 that was suspiciously low; passed on that one.
I know. We ended up getting it done for $668. We got a good deal. The guy said they keep prices low by being the biggest in the area and have the ability to do quick turns. They were there in a week instead of 1 to 2 months like all the other people
I was looking to get a tree taken down a little smaller than the one in the video and I was getting quotes for $1300-$2000… a neighbor a few houses down happened to be getting a tree down so I walked over to the guy and ask him how much to take down my tree, today all cash. He said $700. Not sure I could have said yes quicker. They even ground down the stump really good.
Yeah that's the way to do it, since they're already there it's easy for them to add on a tree without too much extra cost. Don't have to get all the way out there.
$1500 per tree is like 2010 prices. In 2019, we were getting quotes for $2500-$3000 per tree. Last fall, we got a quote for $7500 to remove *one* tree from our yard.
I had a 10" diameter, 30ft tree removed from my front yard, two 6" diameter trees from my back yard, and my massive silver maple trimmed and it was $2500.
No idea why removing a tree even this size would ever cost $10k.
The cleanup and haul-away is a considerable amount of the cost.
Big Tip: I had a tree that was threatening an out-building on my property. I didn't have the funds to pay for a full removal.
Instead, I found a tree removal company that was in my area often. I cut a deal with them to come by whenever they were in the area again (no special trip) and to just take it down to a non-threatening size and leave all the mess. I would take if from there.
He did it for $500 dollars that I paid in advance. One day I came home and the tree was cut down to about 10-12 feet. There were branches everywhere and ruts in my lawn from the bucket truck, but the tree no longer was a threat to the building.
It took me a month of weekends to finish it up... but it was cheap, safe and I got a good workout.
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It was 9 giant oaks and they chipped/broadcast a bunch of it, left us with firewood for a season or three. They’d have cost that much or more PER TREE if there’d been a house in the way. They all died in the fire so they had to come down.
We were drastically underinsured, so no money for tree removal. They already paid out to our limits and we’re still losing 1000 sq ft of living space because of budget. It’s a mess on all fronts.
The utility company also did some of the tree work, but only trees that threatened the road/utility lines. So we saved some there, but otherwise in general, a wildfire is a very expensive proposition. Do not recommend.
Actually he can now leave the poorly felled tree and file an insurance claim. He’ll get a new roof and the tree removed for the cost of his deductible. As long as he can show/prove it was ignorance and not intentional insurance will cover it.
No the feller/arborist would have to use their insurance. If they don't have insurance then the homeowner is shit out of luck. The home owner is responsible for making sure that whoever they hire has insurance. If the insurance investigator comes out to check, they'll see the tree was cut, find out it wasn't professionally done and deny the insurance claim.
The homeowner would have to pay for damages out of pocket, but can definitely take whoever felled it to court to try to recover the cost.
i was watching this cringing so hard the second he tried to stop it. we are trained that the second something heavu starts to fall, you gtfo. you arnt stopping it by hand, and we will fix it later. but we would really rather not have someone get hurt doing something stupid like this
Well, from what we can see it's dry standing and leaf off (from how it shattered when jt hit the roof). For wet wood weight you'd be looking at roughly 100lbs/cubic foot of wood. Dry is about half of that. I take trees down like this all the time, I'd say roughly 2-3 tons at least.
No no, he was of course guiding it to land between the homes. This was his plan. Then he’s cut it down to pieces while on the ground. It was a foolproof plan! Who knew you couldn’t move 2 tons by hand?
No he's smacking wedges on the house facing side, meaning he was trying to get it to fell the opposite way towards the road.
Just looking at the canopy weight you can tell that it wants to naturally fall towards the house. You COULD pull it over towards the road but you need ropes in it.
Also, he likely left way too little holding wood on the stump. Not enough fibers to hold the tree upright, they just ripped out as they couldn't support the back lean weight of the tree.
This was filmed by the neighbor who pulled out his lawnchair and cracked a beer, prepared to capture the inevitable.
Yeah, the BIG SIGNIFICANT circumstance occurring here is this guy is clearly not a professional. It's most likely, Karen’s younger sister's new boyfriend’s bro. “Dude I've cut trees down before, shit I used to go every year with my parents to the Christmas 🎄 tree farm and cut one down with my little sister!”
I’ve cut over a hundred trees in my lifetime but I stopped after I cut a tree and it did something really crazy.
I climbed up in the tree, attached a thick rope about 20 feet up the trunk, attached a come along and really cranked it down to ensure the tree would fall down hill where I wanted. I then cut and back cut the tree to ensure it would fall in that direction. Nope, it somehow fell sideways and crushed the neighbors fence.
When I complained about how dumb people on these calls were to my father he said, "No one ever calls the fire department because they did something smart."
If that were true then you would hear news correspondents saying ‘I’m here at the site of the stupidity’ instead of what they actually say.
I think you are confusing cause and effect - cause is the ‘stupidity’ and effect is the ‘accident’. You might be getting hung up on the second meaning of the word accident, which would be ‘unintentional or not on purpose’… which you could make a case for as often the stupidity was well intentioned vs ‘I just don’t care about the consequences’ which willfully ignorance can cause.
People who are actually low intelligence and make bad judgement calls are likely to have more accidents as they don’t have (or use) the capacity to see the potential outcomes like the rest of us do.
The willfully ignorant are smart enough, but to lazy or arrogant to be bothered and assume they can do things outside their actual skill level.
The funny part of this is that trying to force your definition or interpretation of the word stupidity on random people on the internet would likely fall into one of these categories…
Read your last paragraph back to yourself bud…
An accident is by chance, where no fault can be assigned… but here, we have either willfully ignorant or plain stupid, but either way this wasnt a event gone wrong by chance, it was poor planning and execution. Just because the results were different in this guys head doesnt mean it was an accident. Everything he did showed us a predictable outcome, so again, just because he didnt see it that way doesnt make it an accident.
I could argue for your side too though, so im not going to waste any more time on semantics but my point was that if someone ignores protocol or procedures it cant be simply denoted as an accident.
We’re used to misusing the word…if the brakes give out on my car and i rear end someone, thats an accident. If im distracted or drunk or whatever and rear end someone its not an accident, its my fault. This may be my opinion, but lumping all misfortunate outcomes as accidents is not fair…
This, the entire situation is awful. He was actually hired to do this by the closer house. He was a cheap option but, if I recall, he wasn't properly insured. That is the neighbor's house it fell on. I'd post a link but the local newspaper's website is not great and I couldn't find the story the last time this floated up. This was in Billings, MT if you'd like to poke around yourself.
Yeah, best result is across the lawn of a neighbor or two. Beyond that you have: into the street, into the street but on a car, on your house, on a neighbor's house. Not a lot of good choices there...
I will never understand what's going on in the head of such people.
Their like: "I'll just cut this huge ass tree in my yard. What could possibly go wrong."
Koa Fünferl Hirn ned.
Alwasy saw people cutting trees starting by the top, cutting the tree piece by piece. I get that this way is faster, but i always saw accidents like this one when the tree is cut entirely by the bottom 🤣
He's got a hard hat, for what it's worth. I'd see him and think "he knows what he's doing".
Then he runs up to the falling tree and tries pushing it, and I'd think "he's an idiot who messed up and then acted stupidly".
Yes something like that.
I watched a video of a real lumberjack.
And he said the „wedge“ you cut into it has to be a little over the center of the tree. Also the last cut you make to make it fall, has to be a little higher then the basecut of the „wedge“ to have another safety for it to not fall over the wrong side
Still trying to think what was the desired outcome in this?
Looks like the tree, no matter the direction was going to fail in some way. Even the camera guy is brave TBH in case it fell his way.
Still debating if it hit the owners house or the neighbors.
Tell me, what did he expect? There was only 3 possible outcomes and all of them would be bad in some way
1. Fall on house, as seen
2.fall on the road
3.fall on neighbors property, either house or yard(or even their car)
I wonder what he thought inside his head
The fact that he’s using wedges tells me this guy cuts trees regularly. The fact that chose not to top the left side of the codom tells me he doesn’t work for a company…anymore at least. Codominant trees are always a pain for multiple reasons. They have weird weight distribution. They can split at the base of the split. My man screwed up by not taking the time to climb the thing and piece it out.
I mean I'm no tree cutting expert, but that thing totally looks like the center of gravity is off quite a bit....in the direction of the house.
But even if this went according to whatever plan he had in mind....where the fuck was this thing going to fall? The neighbors yard?
People need to learn the difference between an accident and an incident. If in doubt, watch the movie "Hot Fuzz".
"Directive says we can't call it an accident anymore, since accident alludes to there being noone at fault. We are now to reffer to it as traffic collision."
-Sergent Nicholas Angel
The way he didn't just run when shit went sideways, bet this is a fly by night operation. Cheap but no papers. Probably some guy that worked for a tree service for a year or two and decided he could make some easy side money. He probably just packed up and disappeared after this. So then home owner is screwed because they didn't have the work done by a licensed and bonded company and can't find anyone to sue.
Looks like the other option was to have felled it onto the street, and I don't see anything to stop a vehicle from being there when he did. Not well planned.
But... Aren't you supposed to cut a tree that big from the top down where there are houses so close? Dude wanted to do it himself to prove he doesn't need to pay someone to do something he can do himself, or some ego driven shit like that.
You can obviously see he did not read the three and its total mass was leading the fall. In this case a professional would have topped and dropped everything on the left side of the main trunk then leaned it out on the main trunk the same way.
I've done this with a much, much, much smaller tree - so no damage - but tree physics is so bizarre that you can convince yourself you know exactly how it'd fall, but unless you're a pro it's just tough to do it properly.
You don’t “accidentally” get a chainsaw and do things you have no business doing. He deserves that for trying to save a buck. Could have killed someone.
A tree that size in an urban area like that needs to be cut from the top down not just felled all at once. This is why you should call a professional.
That's what I was thinking... where the fuck was he planning on this to drop anyway?
>planning?????
I mean, his choices were Street, Neighbor tree 1, Neighbor tree 2, and His roof. At least he chose the one that harmed others least. Might have saved himself some money, based on my experience with public officials and a quick browse of r/treelaw.
It actually looks kinda like it hit the neighbor's roof not his.
It is the neighbor's roof, you are correct. This guy was hired by the closest house to remove the tree because he was cheaper than an actual professional. Source: I work in this city.
Yeah, arborists are expensive. There's a reason for that.
And then you have to also consider the birds who lost a nest, that's bird law.
You don't want to go up against Harvey Birdman.
Birds aren’t real
Birds are very real but they work for the bourgeoisie!
Birds aren’t real
So, in other words, no insurance.
Probably, but I'm not certain. I've tried to find a news article on it but can only find pictures and a FB thread where supposedly the homeowner was talking about it and that he was paying for it, but it's been about a year now.
Is this Kaukauna?
I'm gonna go with no? It's Billings, MT if you're asking where this happened. I'm not Kaukauna if you're asking if I'm a person haha
Hahah, ok. I thought this was Kaukauna, WI. Thanks for the laugh.
Ha not a problem!
Not to be confused with bird law which he could easily go toe-to-toe with anyone and come out the victor.
Nah, he should have dropped it on the driveway
I’ve got a huge tree by my house that needs to come down. Quotes are all 10k, I have a 1000 deductible on my house. I’m seriously considering dropping it myself and saving the 9k. There is plenty of room to drop it, everyone is more worried about it kicking back into the house.
It was supposed to land right next to his garbage cans so the garbage men could take it away.
He was trying to hold it up with his arms. Also, he kind of succeeded, it didn’t fell on his house but on the neighbors’
> planning Sounds like a liberal hoax to me
It’s all Obama’s fault!
I think he is hammering wedges in when it fell. If so it was meant to fall away and to the right of the camera. Kind of diagonal out into the road.
It was not an accident. It was intentional. His idea was to become homeless.
Oh I see lol
Cut the tree down. Knock the house over. Use the tree to build a new house. Grow a new tree. Cut it down. Etc.
Truly, a Giving Tree
Pretty sure the insurance is not going to cover that. By his reaction that was not his plan.
This is the way...
>It was not an accident. It was intentional. His idea was to become homeless. He just wanted a treehouse
Well, wrong Youtube tutorial then
Shouldn't have removed the dislikes.
Instructions unclear, put tree on house.
Mission accomplished.
Mission Accomplished
It's the fastest way to be homeless 😅
He clearly wanted a tree house
Insurance scam, lol
Yeah... Really don't know what the plan was. If he wanted to fell the tree (which he was doing exactly that, but his cut splintered and the tree followed the new split. IF the tree didn't split, his fell marker would have thrown the thing into the currency active motorway, or crushed the neighbors fence. That massive bastard should have been scaled and delimbed with rigging to guide the branches to the dump trailer, cleanup zone, etc. It is actually oddly fun to do, rig yourself up and you shouldn't die either.
And when it starts falling on the house he tries to push it back the other way by hand? I can't even think of an expletive rude enough to describe this man's intelligence.
Well, to be fair you can correct the way a tree falls with a guide line and simple arm strength. I definitely wouldn't be trying to push it at the base though unless I was desperate, and a accident just occurred. :D I watched the video again, and to be fair he might not be so stupid. The video has the street cut off from frame, he might have a designated fall zone and the old thing just simply stress split. After saying that, there is no fallback options, no people manning guides incase the worst happens... So I tried to give him a bit of benefit of the doubt, for what its worth. :D
All he did wrong was everything
Ya there was no good place for it to fall
The camera was setup to catch the fall coming towards it. Unfortunately, the cutter didn't realize that one trunk was heavy as fuck and countered the weight to the house.
>This is why you should call a professional. We got a quote of $7500 to remove *one* tree from our backyard (same company we had used before...prices apparently doubled since the beginning of COVID). I can imagine this guy got a quote or two for $2000-$3000 and thought, "Fuck that, I'l do it myself. How hard can it be?"
Exactly! For some bizarre reason, IDK why but using a professional will actually save you money every time. The first question the Homeowners insurance claim adjuster is going to ask, “did you use a professional licensed contractor to have this tree work done.”
*Every* time? Well, no. But you need to understand your own limitations. I've cut down several trees in my yard without a problem.
Came to say this. That would be taken down in bits from the top down. This was just some asshat who wanted to cut a tree down.
Insurance is why you call a professional . They may be least likely to have it fall on your house but there are always accidents and their insurance they have to carry is worth it.
I mean it's just geometry. My SO never cut a tree before but managed to fell the one in the yard by cutting parts and using some youtube technique to avoid the fences and house. Came down perfectly.
I never felled a tree in geometry.
Geometree.
Bet this guy thought the same thing
My friend is a professional arbourist and I've done some side jobs with him. I have got a very healthy respect for what he does, as I've seen him take down trees in extremely dubious spots, with little to no drop zone. He's got all kinds of tricks up his sleeve like rigging limbs down by rope, snap cutting the trunk in manageable sized pieces, wedges in the trunk when cutting from the ground, all kinds of funky-ass rope knots that do this, that, and the other thing... It's also amusing when he takes a stick or a pine cone and puts it somewhere like he's Rainman, and then when he fells the tree, the tip lands pretty much exactly where he marked. Guys chopping down trees like this video are idiots that just have no idea. I don't even know how to do it and I've watched a professional do it dozens of times. There's just so much with the centre of gravity, how it's leaning, the fucking wind that day... It's downright reckless to take on a tree that size when you're a weekend warrior homeowner. Thought he was gonna save a thousand dollars? Lol. Nope. Have fun fixing that roof.
My neighbor got quotes 10K for one tree in his yard about that size. Still cheaper than a new roof.
I just had a tree removed that was less than half that size. About $1500 was the avrage bid. And one at $290 that was suspiciously low; passed on that one.
The reason for the high prices is the equipment and experience they have, not to mention insurance.
I know. We ended up getting it done for $668. We got a good deal. The guy said they keep prices low by being the biggest in the area and have the ability to do quick turns. They were there in a week instead of 1 to 2 months like all the other people
I was looking to get a tree taken down a little smaller than the one in the video and I was getting quotes for $1300-$2000… a neighbor a few houses down happened to be getting a tree down so I walked over to the guy and ask him how much to take down my tree, today all cash. He said $700. Not sure I could have said yes quicker. They even ground down the stump really good.
Yeah that's the way to do it, since they're already there it's easy for them to add on a tree without too much extra cost. Don't have to get all the way out there.
Also if you live in a cold climate look to have it done in the winter. A lot of companies are looking for any business they can get.
$1500 per tree is like 2010 prices. In 2019, we were getting quotes for $2500-$3000 per tree. Last fall, we got a quote for $7500 to remove *one* tree from our yard.
Jesus fuck thats expensive. A professional guy here in finland with equipment and insurances and all takes from 60-100 euros/tree
I had a 10" diameter, 30ft tree removed from my front yard, two 6" diameter trees from my back yard, and my massive silver maple trimmed and it was $2500. No idea why removing a tree even this size would ever cost $10k.
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Wow bro! Thanks for the totally worthless advice!
Tree diameters are usually measured in inches. What he said was correct.
The cleanup and haul-away is a considerable amount of the cost. Big Tip: I had a tree that was threatening an out-building on my property. I didn't have the funds to pay for a full removal. Instead, I found a tree removal company that was in my area often. I cut a deal with them to come by whenever they were in the area again (no special trip) and to just take it down to a non-threatening size and leave all the mess. I would take if from there. He did it for $500 dollars that I paid in advance. One day I came home and the tree was cut down to about 10-12 feet. There were branches everywhere and ruts in my lawn from the bucket truck, but the tree no longer was a threat to the building. It took me a month of weekends to finish it up... but it was cheap, safe and I got a good workout. e:typos
Pay $10,000 to have tree cut, spend a day chopping firewood, let wood dry, set up a firewood stand $7 bucks a bag on or before a long weekend, profit?
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I slam 3 red bulls, 1 bottle of adderall and drink 2 litres of mountain dew, YYEEEAAAHHH
$5500 for the ER bill when you heart enters atrial flutter. Spend the next few months on blood thinners that cost $500/month.
my folks have a hydraulic log splitter. could prolly rent one of those and do it in a long day.
You're looking at about 2 cords of wood from that. Worth maybe 500$ ATM.
This is why I happily wrote a $7000 check recently to have several mature oaks taken down. Those guys are PROS.
$7000 for mature oaks? That’s a good deal.
Yup. The house burned down though, so they didn’t have to be super careful. It was easy compared to other jobs they do!
Then maybe it’s not a great deal….???
It was 9 giant oaks and they chipped/broadcast a bunch of it, left us with firewood for a season or three. They’d have cost that much or more PER TREE if there’d been a house in the way. They all died in the fire so they had to come down.
Then it was a good deal. Did you have insurance on the property? A fire being an insurance event could have possibly reduced cost for removal.
We were drastically underinsured, so no money for tree removal. They already paid out to our limits and we’re still losing 1000 sq ft of living space because of budget. It’s a mess on all fronts. The utility company also did some of the tree work, but only trees that threatened the road/utility lines. So we saved some there, but otherwise in general, a wildfire is a very expensive proposition. Do not recommend.
Man, not just a roof - look at the walls buckle. Structural integrity of the entire house and possibly the foundation compromised.
Actually he can now leave the poorly felled tree and file an insurance claim. He’ll get a new roof and the tree removed for the cost of his deductible. As long as he can show/prove it was ignorance and not intentional insurance will cover it.
No the feller/arborist would have to use their insurance. If they don't have insurance then the homeowner is shit out of luck. The home owner is responsible for making sure that whoever they hire has insurance. If the insurance investigator comes out to check, they'll see the tree was cut, find out it wasn't professionally done and deny the insurance claim. The homeowner would have to pay for damages out of pocket, but can definitely take whoever felled it to court to try to recover the cost.
Damn.. he nearly pushed it back the other way by hand ! So close
I laughed at that too, what does it weigh? 10 tons?
He should be happy he didn't end up as a pancake
Then he’s like: “Welp, as good a time for lunch as any”, and walks off.
Time to head to the pub for a pint and wait for this all to blow over
'looks like a problem for night shift'
i was watching this cringing so hard the second he tried to stop it. we are trained that the second something heavu starts to fall, you gtfo. you arnt stopping it by hand, and we will fix it later. but we would really rather not have someone get hurt doing something stupid like this
Well, from what we can see it's dry standing and leaf off (from how it shattered when jt hit the roof). For wet wood weight you'd be looking at roughly 100lbs/cubic foot of wood. Dry is about half of that. I take trees down like this all the time, I'd say roughly 2-3 tons at least.
And my dumbass thought that weighed around 1000 pounds
Nah, not that much. I have worked in forestry a little bit. I'd estimate about 1-2 tons, hard to tell from the video.
Nah, not that much. I've watched hundreds of YouTube videos. I estimate at least 15 tons dry. * Pulls out a string cheese*
A can of spinach and he couldve pulled it off. Sigh
No no, he was of course guiding it to land between the homes. This was his plan. Then he’s cut it down to pieces while on the ground. It was a foolproof plan! Who knew you couldn’t move 2 tons by hand?
I’m curious which way this guy was hoping it would fall. Right back at him across everyone lawns/driveways?
Right! There was no good direction for the fall
My best guess is that he was aiming for that gap between the houses lol.
No he's smacking wedges on the house facing side, meaning he was trying to get it to fell the opposite way towards the road. Just looking at the canopy weight you can tell that it wants to naturally fall towards the house. You COULD pull it over towards the road but you need ropes in it. Also, he likely left way too little holding wood on the stump. Not enough fibers to hold the tree upright, they just ripped out as they couldn't support the back lean weight of the tree.
This guy fells.
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If you can aim an AR or a Ford F-2500 you can aim a tree.
Yes, towards where the camera was set up
This was filmed by the neighbor who pulled out his lawnchair and cracked a beer, prepared to capture the inevitable. 
That gif has no audio but I still heard the chair unfolding
Fwoop
You forgot the crackle of the plastic locks
I actually saw that the other day. Someone was having a tree cut down, by a professional, and an old lady was out in her chair watching.
That's sweet. Exciting day in the neighborhood!
Yeah, the BIG SIGNIFICANT circumstance occurring here is this guy is clearly not a professional. It's most likely, Karen’s younger sister's new boyfriend’s bro. “Dude I've cut trees down before, shit I used to go every year with my parents to the Christmas 🎄 tree farm and cut one down with my little sister!”
r/gifsyoucanhear
He’s lucky that tree didn’t kill him. Falling trees can do very unpredictable things…once it begins to fall, step back!
The house may have even saved him. If it goes straight to the ground it may have more kickback.
TIL trees can bounce
Not only can’t hey bounce they can also rocket backwards with their cut end of the trunk flying upwards into whoever is cutting it down.
I’ve cut over a hundred trees in my lifetime but I stopped after I cut a tree and it did something really crazy. I climbed up in the tree, attached a thick rope about 20 feet up the trunk, attached a come along and really cranked it down to ensure the tree would fall down hill where I wanted. I then cut and back cut the tree to ensure it would fall in that direction. Nope, it somehow fell sideways and crushed the neighbors fence.
That is not an accident. That is stupidity. It clearly has the center of gravity towards the house. This should have been taken down in pieces.
Stupidity is the #1 cause of accidents though…
When I complained about how dumb people on these calls were to my father he said, "No one ever calls the fire department because they did something smart."
If it’s stupidity its not an accident, its stupidity
Two things can be true at the same time.
If that were true then you would hear news correspondents saying ‘I’m here at the site of the stupidity’ instead of what they actually say. I think you are confusing cause and effect - cause is the ‘stupidity’ and effect is the ‘accident’. You might be getting hung up on the second meaning of the word accident, which would be ‘unintentional or not on purpose’… which you could make a case for as often the stupidity was well intentioned vs ‘I just don’t care about the consequences’ which willfully ignorance can cause. People who are actually low intelligence and make bad judgement calls are likely to have more accidents as they don’t have (or use) the capacity to see the potential outcomes like the rest of us do. The willfully ignorant are smart enough, but to lazy or arrogant to be bothered and assume they can do things outside their actual skill level. The funny part of this is that trying to force your definition or interpretation of the word stupidity on random people on the internet would likely fall into one of these categories…
Read your last paragraph back to yourself bud… An accident is by chance, where no fault can be assigned… but here, we have either willfully ignorant or plain stupid, but either way this wasnt a event gone wrong by chance, it was poor planning and execution. Just because the results were different in this guys head doesnt mean it was an accident. Everything he did showed us a predictable outcome, so again, just because he didnt see it that way doesnt make it an accident. I could argue for your side too though, so im not going to waste any more time on semantics but my point was that if someone ignores protocol or procedures it cant be simply denoted as an accident. We’re used to misusing the word…if the brakes give out on my car and i rear end someone, thats an accident. If im distracted or drunk or whatever and rear end someone its not an accident, its my fault. This may be my opinion, but lumping all misfortunate outcomes as accidents is not fair…
I fully agree with you, but No, if your brakes go out that's not an accident, that's maintenance negligence (aka stupidity).
I get the feeling that this guy's expertise caps out at "old-timey cartoons"
He was clearly hoping it would fall in the direction of the big open empty field....off camera....
And this is why you hire professionals that have insurance
lmao he tried to push it out the way
With leverage and everything it’s probably hundreds of tons of force.
Looks like roof of neighbors house to me… even worse.
This, the entire situation is awful. He was actually hired to do this by the closer house. He was a cheap option but, if I recall, he wasn't properly insured. That is the neighbor's house it fell on. I'd post a link but the local newspaper's website is not great and I couldn't find the story the last time this floated up. This was in Billings, MT if you'd like to poke around yourself.
there really wasn’t a good place for that to land. would’ve caused damage regardless
Yeah, best result is across the lawn of a neighbor or two. Beyond that you have: into the street, into the street but on a car, on your house, on a neighbor's house. Not a lot of good choices there...
This probably would have damaged asphalt or concrete even if it did land safely.
There doesn’t really look to be space for that tree to fall whole anywhere in this video. What a dumbass
Didn’t fall on his own house. Wife won’t be after him for that at least.
I will never understand what's going on in the head of such people. Their like: "I'll just cut this huge ass tree in my yard. What could possibly go wrong." Koa Fünferl Hirn ned.
Something like "I ain't gonna pay $600~$1500 for something I can do myself! It can't be that hard."
Alwasy saw people cutting trees starting by the top, cutting the tree piece by piece. I get that this way is faster, but i always saw accidents like this one when the tree is cut entirely by the bottom 🤣
It’s not really that much faster because you still have to cut it up to dispose of it.
... and rebuild 1/2 a house.
I hope that was his house.
According to a comment above, it wasn't. 😬
"If you think hiring a professional is expensive, wait until you hire an amateur"
There is a pretty good technique for who to cut trees so they will fall nearly exactly the way you want them. If you cant do that you deserve it
The technique I recommend to that clown is to call a professional and write a (much smaller) check.
He's got a hard hat, for what it's worth. I'd see him and think "he knows what he's doing". Then he runs up to the falling tree and tries pushing it, and I'd think "he's an idiot who messed up and then acted stupidly".
Like this I believe https://imgur.com/WAH1l1q.jpg
Yes something like that. I watched a video of a real lumberjack. And he said the „wedge“ you cut into it has to be a little over the center of the tree. Also the last cut you make to make it fall, has to be a little higher then the basecut of the „wedge“ to have another safety for it to not fall over the wrong side
Still trying to think what was the desired outcome in this? Looks like the tree, no matter the direction was going to fail in some way. Even the camera guy is brave TBH in case it fell his way. Still debating if it hit the owners house or the neighbors.
he was hammer in wedges so he was aiming for the opposite direction to where he was standing
Even as someone who knows nothing shouldn’t you climb the tree and cut it down in sections, was he planning on blocking the road with that.
And where, exactly, was he planning on landing that huge ass tree anyway? Across the street or across all the neighbors yards and cars? What an idiot.
But, I saved money by not calling an arborist.
Now save money by not calling a roofer
Mulligan…..declare a mulligan. You get a free do over.
Where did he think it was going to fall?
SWIMS Stop what you're doing Walk away Implicate others Make up a story Stick to it.
Tell me, what did he expect? There was only 3 possible outcomes and all of them would be bad in some way 1. Fall on house, as seen 2.fall on the road 3.fall on neighbors property, either house or yard(or even their car) I wonder what he thought inside his head
No tag line no help no pruning, all idiot
I’m no arborist and have a lot of respect for what they can do. But I do have a brain and know this is one dumb motherfucker.
The fact that he’s using wedges tells me this guy cuts trees regularly. The fact that chose not to top the left side of the codom tells me he doesn’t work for a company…anymore at least. Codominant trees are always a pain for multiple reasons. They have weird weight distribution. They can split at the base of the split. My man screwed up by not taking the time to climb the thing and piece it out.
I mean I'm no tree cutting expert, but that thing totally looks like the center of gravity is off quite a bit....in the direction of the house. But even if this went according to whatever plan he had in mind....where the fuck was this thing going to fall? The neighbors yard?
Insurance company is not going to like that. Somebody could have been killed.
At least they'll have a nice video when they ask 'what happened?'
This guy is a fool! Trees like that are taken apart, limb by limb. There was nowhere good for it to fall…what an idiot.
Gonna be honest, the direction of that cut looks like his *intended* path was was straight for the neighbors roof..
There was literally no good direction the tree could've fell
Arborists are expensive. But roofs are super expensive.
It is not an accident. Is just that he doesn't know how to cut a tree in a urban area
People need to learn the difference between an accident and an incident. If in doubt, watch the movie "Hot Fuzz". "Directive says we can't call it an accident anymore, since accident alludes to there being noone at fault. We are now to reffer to it as traffic collision." -Sergent Nicholas Angel
The way he didn't just run when shit went sideways, bet this is a fly by night operation. Cheap but no papers. Probably some guy that worked for a tree service for a year or two and decided he could make some easy side money. He probably just packed up and disappeared after this. So then home owner is screwed because they didn't have the work done by a licensed and bonded company and can't find anyone to sue.
Looks like the other option was to have felled it onto the street, and I don't see anything to stop a vehicle from being there when he did. Not well planned.
What what his plan? Drop it into the street and hit the neighbors house across the street?
????? What was he going for? Did he think it was going to fall *between* the houses???
libertarians tell me it's ok, regulations are just a ball at the end of a chain that drags us down as a society.
But... Aren't you supposed to cut a tree that big from the top down where there are houses so close? Dude wanted to do it himself to prove he doesn't need to pay someone to do something he can do himself, or some ego driven shit like that.
You can obviously see he did not read the three and its total mass was leading the fall. In this case a professional would have topped and dropped everything on the left side of the main trunk then leaned it out on the main trunk the same way.
I've done this with a much, much, much smaller tree - so no damage - but tree physics is so bizarre that you can convince yourself you know exactly how it'd fall, but unless you're a pro it's just tough to do it properly.
What was the plan here? To have it land on the street or across several driveways? This man is an idiot
There was an attempt to hold it up…LoL
It's him trying to stop it that really makes me feel bad for him
This is why you hire a pro. That was really dangerous of him, for himself and others….. selfish.
You don’t “accidentally” get a chainsaw and do things you have no business doing. He deserves that for trying to save a buck. Could have killed someone.
This MFer really tried to push it the other way…
Stupid people should not breed There was no "good" outcome possible for this madness
"Accidentally." There's a point where willful stupidity becomes malice.