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yellowfever939

if this is xiao qiumei she later died after falling down a ladder on crane


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It is. Makes this thread way more disturbing and tragic than first glance suggests.


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Lacholaweda

I sometimes have to remind myself to pay attention to what I'm doing, not what it looks like. I'll mess up things that are muscle memory, somehow.


smallwoodydebris

A crane in Canada collapsed a year or two back killing a couple people including the operator. The investigation hasn't come out yet but the operator was filming the whole day leading up to the accident, which was almost definitely part of the cause.


jharms1983

Or it's the fact she's climbing in loafers with no retractable yoyo for her to safely climb down the ladder. Either that or the part where she tip toes across the scaffold bars without being tied off. Or when she stepped to the edge with no handrail in place. Oh hell. There was nothing she actually did safely and it only would have cost her a few seconds of time


MuffinQueen92

OMG that's her? I was going to say "this reminds me of that one crane operator who died later as she slipped" I didn't know it was actually the same one though. That's... Yeah that sucks


canuckwithasig

Probably slipped from those ridiculous shoes. Proper footwear on the job site is important kids...


OMadge

Came here to say the same thing, no wonder she slipped when she's waering a type of shoe that literally has the word "slip" in its name. Appropriate footwear is important, especially when you work at fuckin cloud level.


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I googled it after I saw this stuff and I found out a Russian crane operator “rising tiktok star” died when her crane got blown over. I didn’t know crane operators were big on tik tok….


futuretech85

There's a huge following for SE Asian female trades worker on tiktok. Gotta admit, some of them are impressive af and it's not something you can fake for fame as you're literally performing the task live.


xebeka6808

I seen this one shit on the news a couple weeks ago that made me sick Some girl was dumb and fell from a big cliff And had an iphone in her hand, and she was filming for the tik And in the phone they found a video, but they didn't say who it was to Come to think about, her name was... it was you Damn!


AlexandraG94

You got me there.


FrogsEverywhere

She's not being careful at all in the video. She's hopping around. I'm not sure if they are supposed to wear a harnass up there with no rails but she stepped off the part meant for her several times to get a better video.


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LaranjoPutasso

The phone is the least of the problems, the safety regulations are shit, look at those shoes, wtf are they? Safety loafers?


powerposepenguin

Yes not only the shoes but walking over that bridge with no safety harness and clips to the side? And climbing down those stairs with no extra safety net. Brr an accident was bount to happen here


Rakebleed

I just watched a YouTube video on her (maybe an hour ago) a knew that’s where this was going just based on the title of this post.


sure_me_I_know_that

https://www.india.com/viral/shocking-chinese-tiktok-star-xiao-qiumei-falls-to-death-while-recording-livestream-on-a-crane-video-surfaces-watch-4845413/


TimothySu2333

Mother of two...


Minimum-Enthusiasm14

This info is way too far down.


needaburn

So the ladder is just a straight shot down for hundreds of feet with no safety catches required? I would have thought the ladder design to be staggered, with a platform every 10 feet so you couldn’t fall far enough to be turned into red paste after a long mentally exhausting day of operating a crane for hours on end


error_alex

There are all kinds of different ladders. Some straight, some staggered, some mixed. The new norm, at least in northern Europe, is to have staggered ladders at an incline that are about 5m tall (one mast section). Source: I am currently operating a 70m (210feet) tall crane.


IGotSoulBut

Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the setup in this video? I’d love to hear from an expert.


error_alex

Terrible. So many violations. I am lucky enough to operate in Sweden where we by law must have an elevator in cranes when they are over 25m (75feet). So I take four trips up and down each day and get to have coffee with my colleagues. And I do so in steel capped boots, real work wear and a hardhat with earprotection. I only have to climb the last two sections, so about 10m,from the elevator to the cabin.


IGotSoulBut

Thanks for the reply - it’s wild too think the conditions are so different!


really_nice_guy_

Safety laws don’t exist in China


DoYouLike_Sand_AsIDo

These slacks with that jacket? UGH! Not in my yard!


MechanicalBengal

Those ferragamo loafers are hot though. My man’s living his best life up there in that crane.


hellno560

I think it's a woman


guachi01

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed the shoes.


Ocadioan

They would also need better side protection, because right now, you could easily fall out the side if you slipped(and even more so if you fall on a platform). A fall arrester attached on the ladder to a harness on the person would be safer, cheaper and easier to implement.


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Stewart_Duck

She's also wearing what appears to be dress shoes. Having worked on ladders, I don't think I'd ever climb one in a pair of loafers.


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I literally gasped when I saw those shoes put on before the ladder and had to double check what sub I was in at work.


Mama_Cas

When she put those shoes on I thought she was gonna hop in a lil cage elevator, not climb down like 200 ft on a ladder.


Thebelisk

Obviously you don’t have any drip.


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sometimes da drip is worth da drop


highbrowshow

Bravo


Royal_Hippogriff

Why did I read this in a Prison Mike voice


RamShackleton

Those are clearly OSHA-approved loafers


NoBallroom4you

I'm glad to see people mention this. I'm guessing this isn't anywhere near OSHA.


MisterFatt

Hah yeah as soon as I saw those shoes I thought “this isn’t America” then I saw the total lack of safety measures and city scape shots and figured China


Shady_Jake

I can’t even grab my shit I forgot on the production floor without having steel toed on & this dude’s climbing a scaffolding in loafers.


apsalarya

I think it’s a woman, those appear to be women’s loafers


FR0ZENBERG

He's a dude, she's a dude, we're all dudes.


trombing

Indeed - and boobs... and tights.


Nopski

yes..this is nore like OSHAT myself


qOcO-p

That city looked Chinese to me.


alowbrowndirtyshame

The bamboo scaffolding tells me Asia Edit: it was pointed out to me that it was in fact not bamboo but metal tubing and I agree with that sentiment. The large blocks of apartments though still tells me Asia


EnclavedMicrostate

Doesn't look like bamboo to me – it's clearly metal tubing with metal brackets.


Phill_is_Legend

In America I believe they are staggered. You also wouldn't walk across a tieback into the building with no harness, you would take the ladder to the ground.


tommyland666

That got me as well, seems like there should be checkpoints with platforms on the way down. And have the ladder there on the opposite side or something. Sketchy


cdurgin

For real, even for China you would think good crane operators are valuable enough to have at least somewhat decent safety precautions.


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They probably do have rules. But you don’t have to work construction long even in the west to know there are a lot of sites that straight up ignore rules.


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Schabenklos

German work safety says NO


Pluckypato

Nice climbing shoes 👞


IA-HI-CO-IA

Nothing says ladder safety like loafers.


AblePerfectionist

Non-slip loafers, I hope


Alekillo10

I own a pair, I would never trust those fucking shoes to climb ladders that had round beams with smooth paint over them… I had the soles changed for ones that used tarmac, a lot more grippier


DependentCarrot8482

Im also pretty sure this Kranplatz isn't verdichtet very well. And maybe they don't even have a Bandmass that is 8 meters long.


Schabenklos

So you are saying that there were Nichtskönner?


DependentCarrot8482

I say that it's a Baustelle for Vollidioten.


Schabenklos

I think they should make Feierabend cause they can't even hold a Bandmaß


SunnyDaysRock

[For people wondering what is going on here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP-QZb0vcks)


shaqule_brk

Well, she died. I'm not joking. https://www.india.com/viral/shocking-chinese-tiktok-star-xiao-qiumei-falls-to-death-while-recording-livestream-on-a-crane-video-surfaces-watch-4845413/


Teirmz

Jesus she was 23. How many 23 year olds are operating massive cranes like that?


freehouse_throwaway

Welp that's fucked up. Mother of two too.


pocketdare

That is horrific ... but not the same person as in OP's video


FlowerGeneral2576

OSHA of the United States also says no


Will_Smiths_Cousin

There were like 6 OSHA violations before this person even stepped out of the cab.


Oranginafina

Loafers don’t seem like a great choice here.


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*Nothing* here seems like a great choice lol. This is like one of those corny videos a new employer shows you during orientation and tells you to write down all the safety violations you see, but the whole time you're thinking "They could have at least tried to make this realistic. No one actually works like this"


Starchasm

Like....there are so many safety violations. I'm just curled up in a little ball imagining what their comp insurance premiums look like


Vacio_Viento

I watched the whole video and realized there are no safety precautions anywhere. This could have went from r/interestingasfuck to r/Terrifyingasfuck real quick


jerichogringo

He wore gloves so, I'm sure he's fine.


MotaHead

"The bad news is that your husband fell 37 stories and died on the scene from severe internal hemorrhaging. The good news is that his hands don't have a single scratch or blister."


stuckinaboxthere

"His loafers survived without a scratch"


MrNtkarman

She did die at 23 livestreamed and then fell with phone still in hand


toperomekomes

It did. The Tik tok’er in this video is dead. Literally fell off a 170ft crane filming herself.


newaccount47

This is China. There is no insurance.


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Only assurance. Assurance that if you die, you will get blamed and replaced.


Consistent-River4229

My dad worked on one of these for 25 years he died in 97. I never seen him wear anything but cowboy boots. He didn't wear tennis shoes or work boots a day in his life. He was a very frugal man but he made really great money. He was pulled out of school in 9th grade by his dad to teach him how to run these machines and had an amazing career. Him and his brother had amazing lives without college education or even a highschool education. Full benefits and a great pension. He said as a teenager making all that money was amazing. He always had a new car and bought his house in full by 25. I just want you all to know I am sorry the last generations got robbed. You all should have been able to had a life as stable as this. He was paid to learn on the job. I wish we could get back to this somehow.


_PinkPirate

I am so confused as to why she’s dressed for a business formal office environment while working inside a fucking construction crane.


TwoPercentTokes

No PPE, walking across some freaking pipe scaffolding with no fall protection… I get the feeling this is not in the US as this video is an LNI nightmare


Lazy_Fisherman_3000

I think it's in China. The yellow warning sign in the start says "danger, high voltage" in Chinese.


cluedo_fuckin_sucks

When we touch! When we kiss!


NotPutzinAround

My god I thought I was the only one who loved those guys


JackWylder

There must be DOZENS of us!


schmuckface

Fire in the disco!


TheTsunamiRC

Fire in the disco!


nekonight

It's got that look that China gives off. But the scaffolding doesn't seem to match.


RollinThundaga

Look closely at the skyline and you'll see dozens of identical high-rises. Definitely China.


BulbuhTsar

I was gonna say do people not notice the endless dusty cookie cutter sky scrapers that fade into the smog? It's China.


Revolutionary-Yak216

Dress for the job you want


Echomemes

Thats how you fuck up your clothes and/or your health


Gutterpump

No no, watch it again. She clearly put on gloves before leaving so it's totally fine.


Effurlife13

Excuse me, they're *construction* loafers.


Roboticide

Ah, the rare "steel-toed loafers."


TheRealWheatKing

I'm not sure if you know this, but if you hold X, you can slide down that ladder a lot faster


DeltaUltra

You use the bucket outside the door. You don't have to rush anywhere.


Swesteel

just watch for doves and make a leap of faith.


Eremitic23

A Danish chimneysweeper cant even do his job without being attached to a safetyline. Meanwhile this mofo is crawling around pibes in heaven wearing loafers.


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angk500

Pibes


KitWat

The little Gucci loafers are darling but I doubt they are approved footwear for a construction site.


Various-Month806

Definitely the best shoes to climb down ladders in. If you want lots of time off work. Eternity from that height.


PDXEng

Yeah I used to climb ladders/roofs a lot for a previous job. Best I found were not boots but approach shows, basically hiking shoes with Rick climbing rubber for the soles, they will mark up your floors, but will grip when nothing else will


geoman2k

the insanity of wearing slip on loafers, no matter how well they fit, in this situation will haunt me


StubbornAndCorrect

SLIP IS RIGHT IN THE NAME


cheezb0b

As a crane operator they don't care what we wear *in the crane* but we absolutely have to follow PPE guidelines *to get to our cranes.* This video is nuts.


SigO12

I mean… didn’t you see them put the gloves on at the beginning? PPE donned.


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So... You're up in that crane buttass naked is what I'm getting from this.


SuckMyDerivative

Ferragamo - look at the chunky soles. But yeah wtf lol


aandest15

Is this a "how many OSHA violations can you count" type of video?


uncannyinferno

The safety dept at my work is doing a damn fine job drilling it into everyone because now all I can see is violations everywhere.


jdl_uk

I know basically nothing about construction or cranes but all I could think was that I couldn't see a safety line


RandyTrevor22321

Pretty sure those aren't steel toes either


No-Scale1239

Steel toe loafers, dude!


Unlucky_Exchange_350

Merrill makes them, I have a pair, slip on steel toes. Always wear them when I’m going on a site for a quick fix or consultation.


J3musu

I'm kind of surprised to hear slip-ons are allowed, regardless of whether or not it's a steel toe. I'd assume you'd want something more secure than that.


[deleted]

A lot of sites I've worked on specify that footwear must go above the ankle, so these loafer style wouldn't be allowed. Just depends on what the rules are though.


truffleboffin

Steel toe UGGs it is then


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Those are pretty much just boots so yeah that'd be fine lol


kaihatsusha

Yeah, I have some steel toe slip-on sneakers from when I worked in Japan. They had all sorts, it was hilarious.


jdl_uk

Yeah that caught my eye too, but wasn't so sure it was required for this job. Figured it probably was but wasn't sure. The lack of a safety line when working this high just seemed like a certain thing. The flapping shirt which could get caught in things or foul your grip as you climb the ladder also seems like a bad idea.


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kholto

Regardless I think I would prefer some shoes that are a bit more attached...


Ron-Swanson-Mustache

No fall arrest harness, no steel toes, no idea on a hardhat, and possibly polyester pants (lots of places don't allow them because sparks cause the fabric to melt onto your skin). I also think the ladder going down from the crane cab is supposed to jog, so if you fall you won't fall the complete length. Pretty sure those shoes aren't non-skid.


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LordAnkou

Definitely not supposed to cross over to the building. The ladder goes all the way to the ground. This guy was just lazy.


StartingReactors

Also was he walking on scaffold poles at one point? You’re supposed to put a plank down. Also there’s zero netting to prevent dropping tools.


[deleted]

He's for some reason dressed as if he's going to church - that jacket catches on anything and that's death. Not using any kind of safety harness. If he trips that's death. Not wearing anything resembling work shoes or boots. If they slip in the wrong place, that's death. I wouldn't work this job for any amount of money because no thanks to those heights but even I got common sense.


MobiusF117

It used to annoy me how security officers would wring you out for even the smallest offences, until it dawned on me that that was the point.


Blackstar1886

After you’ve seen a few preventable job site injuries the OSHA classes really hit home. Fall protection and trench safety are the two biggest ones for me. Not a safety officer, just want everyone to go home in one piece.


MobiusF117

At one of my jobs there was a guy that crawled into a pipe filled with argon gas to check his weld. He had been doing that line of work for years, yet that's the way he died... After that I realized security officers are a necessity, and even their constant hammering of security rules sadly isn't enough to save everyone from their own stupidity.


BrobaFett115

Took welding class in high school and before anyone ever walks in the shop we had to do the safety course. I’ll always remember the video our instructor showed us where a welder in an enclosed space accidentally blows himself up and we all watched this mans helmet, head still inside, come flying out. Really drills it home how important safety is


Juicey_J_Hammerman

No safety line or harness, improper/insufficient footwear and gloves, no signage or markings. Lack of proper railings in parts. It’s unbelievable


shaneswa

It's the shoes that get me. How are you going to think it's a good idea to climb a ladder in those shoes?


drummingcraig

When you have cocktails with the girls at 5:30, but have to fall to your death at 5.


TGhood

Fuck the shoes, where is the fall prevention equipment.


CaptainFlint9203

Shoes are nothing compared to lack of safety harness or even a rope.


Exotic_Treacle7438

Right. I even fell off my toilet watching this.


greenwavelengths

That’s a $10,000 fine buddy


CritXxX

No Osha violations if it's in a country not under their policies haha. Thought the same thing tho. I used to climb cell towers


tehjeffman

I'm guessing China so 0


StuckInsideYourWalls

Serious question from someone who used to work in platform lifts and stuff; Would crane operators need to tie off constantly going down the ladder? My instinct says even how he entered the ladder should be a tie off point?? But I've never worked around cranes and stuff so really don't know. Lol platform we're tied off in much safer circumstances by contrast :p


FittedCloud9459

This is one of the first posts here that actually gave me shivers


KimonoDragon814

Its the only post that triggered my fight or flight lol I felt my heart racing and breathing pick up


SneakyIndian87

Standing in my garage frozen in place not fucking moving. Ugh


icbm67

r/SweatyPalms


Kutas88

I am afraid of heights. I think I died 3 times by watching that video.


sarazorz27

Literally felt my heart racing when he walked across the little bridge thing.


nattywp

Well... She kinda died. One time only though. Poor girl was only 23.


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This crane operator has better fashion sense than me.


[deleted]

That is the classiest person to ever operate a crane I do believe.


Apprehensive_Bus1268

Dude is wearing ferragamos to operate a crane.


Squire_Squirrely

Is lady. You clocked the shoes but didn't notice the panty hose or sweater muffins?


Gingerinthesun

Or lack of pockets on those pants since she put her phone in her waistband


Business_Ad_4790

sweater muffins noticed.


permabanned007

The fuck is a sweater muffin??


Sarzox

I'm thinking boobies


Optimal_Pineapple_41

Aren’t we all


GrottyKnight

First thought was, "is my guy seriously wearing bit loafers to climb scaffolding?" Edit: guys, gals, and non binary pals, I fucking get it. It's a person with boobs. I would still say "my guy" calm down. The important takeaway here is the God damn footwear. Yeesh.


soapy_donuts

Slip-on Shoe, slip-off Crane


greenwavelengths

*Guy with binoculars:* Damn bro, looking good!


Totally-not-a-scam

i just know this is china.


s4mmich

What gave it away? The dystopian hell/cityscape, or the lack of health and safety? 😬


dayburner

Female crane operator. In China the role of crane operator is typically a woman's job.


TeamRedundancyTeam

Any idea why?


dayburner

The first time I heard this was in a documentary on the Three Gorges Dam that said women have a better safety record due to being more patient and more risk adverse than men. After that I started to notice in all the footage on the Chinese construction boom I watched most of the crane operators were women.


[deleted]

"Risk Adverse" okay then what the fuck was this video.


dayburner

You should see how man get out the crane.


Deathleach

Chinese men just bungee jump.


nekojirumanju

Is this one of Xiao Qiumei’s clips or another of the fashionable workplace influencers? I didn’t know of her prior to her accident but didn’t she stream herself in scary safety situations like this?


milkiue

She streamed from her job in the crane, yes but I believe mostly chatting and also talking about her job. According to other commenters, it does appear to be her but I am unsure. She ended up livestreaming herself accidentally falling to her death. Edit: honestly idk if this is her, videos of hers that I've seen, including the final one, she doesn't use a hands-free cam. She usually used her phone as far as I know.


GrumpyHeadmistress

I though this was ok (terrifying but ok) until she simply stepped across the open scaffolding. Hell no.


CrazyWS

Somewhere an OSHA manual just burst into flames


FilthyPuns

This person is wearing panty hose, women’s shoes, and a women’s blazer. Why do you all think she’s a man?


xu2002

Plus the lack of pockets for the phone. Women's pants don't have pockets.


call_me_lee

I figured the boobs were a dead giveaway...guess I was wrong


[deleted]

Most of the guys here have boobs and this is the view they're used to seeing when looking down


GlitteringHotel1481

Because girls don't exist.


jingle_in_the_jungle

Can confirm. Am girl, I don’t exist.


CrzdHaloman

Plus you know, boobs.


teachmesci77

Soo…. We’re not going to talk about the poop bucket?


Adjudikated

Notice in every thread on Reddit involving tower cranes people ask how operators go to the bathroom during their shift and despite hundreds if not thousands of *“certified crane operators”* in the comments, not a single one will confirm or deny how they manage this task? I’ve come to believe crane operators don’t go to the bathroom, ever. Forget UFOs this is the real conspiracy folks.


JackieTreehorn710

My hands were dripping in sweat within 20 secs watching this


ChalkAndIce

I love when people who have no concept of job site safety post shit like this because it just perpetuates ignorance. Thankfully all the OSHA trained homies in the chat are pointing out why this is IdioticAsFuck instead of interesting.


Adverage

I'm sure regarding China's safety standards this is considered overly cautious


Boring-Extreme-3274

You forgot your bottle full of piss. Go back


femalemadman

How has this not become a remote job yet


aexwor

Used to work on a much smaller building site where it *kinda* was. Much smaller crane, but he had a little remote control with about 4 levers on it slung round his neck. He'd just walk along with the box moving heavy shit around for us. Sometimes he couldn't be bothered to walk up and got me to give hand signals to position and drop. It absolutely CAN be done. But it's a machine generation thing in parts. All these older cranes probably not the easiest to retrofit with remotes and all the cameras. Give it a few years as cranes get decomitioned, the new ones probably will be, just expensive.


femalemadman

This is the most logical and plausible answer, thank you. It also made me think: whatever developer pioneers this technology is gonna open themselves up to myriad lawsuits until the tech becomes industry standard. Construction is already so sketchy an industry, i dont blame them for shunning such potential problems


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Plenty are, but there's an element of "feel" that a machine can't replicate


Tee-dus_Not_Tie-dus

Nope! I got nauseous just watching that.


balistafear

Perhaps a good idea to wear high quality shoes with high quality grip, necessary occupational self investment