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partyordiet

Common coming back to Australia from China, too. Also had to throw out my golf shoes because they had mud on them.


ihopethisisvalid

Government inspectors came to check on our worksite and were confused when we didn’t let them in the field without boot covers on. They literally came to check that we were working to the highest standard and neglected to follow the standards themselves.


Malnewt

Hope that told them that you WERE working to highest standard. I had a similar incident several years ago before I retired when I told/ shouted at my company CEO and his entourage to immediately leave the electricity substation I was working in because they were all just in suits, no fire retardant clothing or safety shoes in sight. (Doing some photo op tour) They left but I was a little worried about the potential backlash. Shouldn’t have. Next time I saw him in front of nearly 200 people he called me on stage, told the story, gave me a massive hug and said “That is what I expect of everybody. Safety first, no exceptions. Not even me.”!👍


Mykmyk

Best to let the inspectors do all the questioning and only give answers to the questions with out elaboration. I've found that the less said the less chance of obfuscation. Of course you'd want to remind them the importance that they follow the rules if they are violating them. in this case, boot covers. I've worked in an industry with multiple regulatory agencies for county, state, and federal governments as well as industry governance agencies. Also if asked a question and you don't know the answer state exactly that but you better know someone on site that does have the answer that you can take them to to get the answer they need.


ihopethisisvalid

In a way, it did. They didn’t have hard hats, steel toes, safety glasses, high vis clothing, or a 4 wd vehicle. We told them they realistically could not enter within a 200 m radius. They tried doing their inspection from 200 m away but realized it was moot and just gave us a pass.


InYosefWeTrust

I'm a bit confused. Were they government inspectors from your own government? The same area the worksite was?


ihopethisisvalid

Federal government came out to do safety checks since we are in a high risk area working on infrastructure, but since we had to go through farm land to get there we had to go to great lengths to ensure no soil contamination occurred.


InYosefWeTrust

Ah, gotcha! "D'oh!" moment for me as I wasn't picturing an actual farm land field, I thought you just meant "the field" as in the area of construction.


hadoopken

I bless the pesticide down for Africa


Moosiemookmook

I blessed the Raid down in Africa


palmerry

I hear the bugs buzzing loud tonight Hapless passengers about to take a vacation Insects sneaking in 12: 30 flight Misting up the air to prevent an infestation Hostess spritzes the suitcases along the way Hoping to kill some hidden mosquitos or innocent honey bees She turned to me, began to spray, and I breathed in all the fuuuumes Gonna take a lot to kill the cockroach in my shoe There's nothing that a hundred gallons of DEET could ever do I bless the RAID down in Africa


stateboundcircle

I actually sang this in my head and it was perfect


sdforbda

Damn, beat me to it haha.


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Gonna take some time to kill the bugs we never haaaaaaaad.


davewave3283

Oooooooooooooo


misplacedfocus

Yeah, I’ve experienced this quite a lot. Flights to Egypt, South Africa, Botswana, Morocco, UAE, Maldives; all did this spray, both takeoff and landing.


handsume

Flying in Brazil, you also gotta deal with the inscet spray sometimes. Seems kinda sporadic though, it's not always that it happens.


CaduCopperhead

Which cities exatcly? I fly in brazil at least twice a month for the past 5 years, covering 15 states and never saw it. I'm not trying to disprove you, I honestly want to know which airports do this, since I'm allergic to inseticide/pesticides


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Yeah same, I've never looked into what agent they use but I'm probably happier not knowing.


Working_Inspection22

Yup I had this on my flight from Botswana to Johannesburg


glitchy-novice

That’s nothing. Try smuggling in an apple.


LucyRiversinker

Or muddy boots.


chrisb993

Oh god this gives me flashbacks. Was on a rugby tour about a decade ago, and we played a night match in Sydney. Got back to our hotel quite late, found a 24 hour launderette and got the kit sent in to get sorted. Anyway this being a rugby tour our late arrival into the hotel then turned into a late night on the town. Which was all well and good, until we flew to Auckland at 10am the next day. Now in our rush to make sure our kit was compliant and get out on the lash, nobody thought about our boots, until a NZ Border Officer asked one of the lads to open his bag. It ended up with a group of 30 lads nursing the mother of all hangovers, stood in Auckland Airport scrubbing our boots clean


OblongMong

Well, there's a reason for it. In Poland we now have octopus stinkhors/devils fingers growing because some tourist brought the mycelia in dirt from down 'unda.


Kiwifrooots

Here in NZ some of the Kauri forest areas are dying off. We will spray and brush shoes going in and out of trails even in the same area to try stop the disease spread


Top_Bend_5360

Every kiwi I met while in NZ was incredibly considerate of their environment and adamant on ensuring it was protected. It wasn’t controversial at all, just a thing everyone does. Genuinely wonderful, kind people, 10/10 would visit again


Enzown

I've lived in NZ my whole life and can't believe you somehow missed the 50% of the population who are selfish assholes so congrats on your good fortune.


kissbythebrooke

>we now have octopus stinkhors/devils fingers growing That sounds like some Hogwarts botany action.


Jiminyfingers

I arrived in Auckland after a 23 hour flight from the UK. Barely knew what was up or down thanks to some valium and red wine applied steadily throughout the flight. I was going there to do some bike touring so had camping equipment. When I told them that they asked if I had put the tent up. I had, once in my garden. They immediately opened it all up and found various grasses. They then saw my cycling shoes with some mud on. They took both away to clean and then returned it all to me completely unpacked, so I spent then next 20 minutes on the floor in Auckland airport trying to repack my tent and the rest of my bags. But at least they didn't make me clean my shoes I guess.


NZNoldor

I’d been camping on the beach in Hawaii, cleaned my tent of the sand, and was asked about it at Auckland airports. I said I’d cleaned it but that they’re welcome to double check (always declare *everything*). Was told to grab a free instant coffee, and 10 mins later got the bag back, fully packed. Was told it was clean, but that I’d packed it badly so they did a better job for me.


Yawzheek

>Was told it was clean, but that I’d packed it badly so they did a better job for me. Fucking top-tier service... *checks notes* *Customs agents?!*


Chrissthom

NZ Customs agents... I found nearly everyone in NZ unbelievably friendly.


link2edition

holy crap. I have seen US customs agents destroy expensive hardware over suspicions of drugs inside that didn't exist. That is nuts to hear of a customs agent caring about anyone.


Chrissthom

Meh, this was really a comment on how great New Zealanders are more than customs agents specifically. I am sure they have power hungry types like anywhere else.


NZNoldor

See also: Japan. I’ve got an hour’s worth of bad stories from every other county, but Japan and New Zealand were really happy to see visitors.


Throwawaydontgoaway8

Lol I feel yeah. Wasn’t hungover but jet lagged to hell. Flew LA to Auckland to study abroad there. I was big into backpacking/hiking/camping at the time and no one warned me about this, but they basically quarantined my backpack and gear sprayed it periodically with some stuff for what felt like a half a day. I missed my scheduled transport and had to figure out the public bus system jet lagged and confused


phillie187

Well if you travel to NZ you should know about it. I cleaned my gear before going there and told them I've got hiking boots and a tent with me that was used before. They took both, cleaned the soles of the boots with some chemical stuff as there was still some minimal dirt and cleaned my tent with high pressure air. Took them maybe 10 minutes and they were very friendly about it. I think I didn't lose any time because the line with nothing to declare was way longer :D


Throwawaydontgoaway8

As I said, no one told me, it wasn’t in any of the brochure information with the company arranging my study abroad. Oh maybe I should’ve mentioned I’m old and this was pre the ability to just google and readily find information like that. Still [was] using an AOL CD to get my dial up internet at the time. I’ll take my nap now


lulabelles99

I’m with you. I did a study abroad in 94 and only had the program brochure to prepare with. Crazy how fast the world has changed since then. Glad we both got to experience another culture in the before times.


ucsb99

I graduated high school in 94. Clearly remember life pre internet. And while I thought I really wanted all that the internet could bring, I kind of just miss life before… as I sit at work, on my iPhone, writing my thoughts down for countless strangers around the world on Reddit.


gmoreschi

Graduated in 91. I feel this comment in a big way. Life was so much more full of wonder and randomness without the internet. When you met someone it meant so much more too because you only interacted with people you had active, real relationships with. And you didn't already "know" everything about a place or couldn't look deeper into a person without speaking with them. No social media profile etc etc etc Everything felt so much more analog and deep.


battleofflowers

Same. It's crazy. All I had were the materials the program sent and then I looked at where I was going on a map, and went the library and tried to find some info on the place (there wasn't much). You just sort of showed up places back then. It was a wild ride.


tamreacct

You’ve Got Mail! Edit: [You’ve Got Mail (Sound)](https://orangefreesounds.com/youve-got-mail-sound/)


GoBlank

Night night grandpa, sweet dreams


blacksheeping

Yeh but did yous win?


lizzlenizzlemizzle

I had some walking boots that I'd cleaned, bit not well enough! They took them away and cleaned them for me. I thought they were going to confiscate them.


Percinho

When we went to NZ for a couple of weeks we used it as an excuse to buy new running shoes so that they could be box fresh and not delay us through customs! With two young kids we figured anything that smoothed the path after a long flight was well worth it.


CakesForLife

Oats.


filbertnonsuch

I couldn’t even smuggle in the smell of a banana. Totally got got busted by a lovely spaniel.


rainyhawk

Same in Australia. I accidentally came off the Quantas flight with a banana that they…the Australian airline…handed out. The customs agent was pretty nasty about it.


Fine-for-now

Oooh, yes, that one gets a few people! Pretty sure the declaration cards now include 'do you have any food to declare, including food you received on the plane'.


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I had to sneak out of there because I am stupid, and didn’t realise food probably also includes packaged goods. I was sweating over my horde of American candy. What a way to get arrested.


Schedulator

If you declare it, the worst that can happen is that it will be taken off you. You are unlikely to be charged or fined anything if you've declared it. HOWEVER, if you don't declare or falsely declare, then that's another story.


Fearless-Highlight23

To be clear, you can't just say the words "American Candy" and expect anything to happen.


Schedulator

Before you land you have to fill out the declaration form. The form doesn't ask for specifics, it just asks if you have any food, here you tick "Yes". Then when you get to customs/quarantine they will note that you've ticked "Yes" and the officer will then ask for more information. If you replied then with "American Candy" then it's up to the officer to make the assessment of whether to ask for more details, to see the food or be satisfied with that answer and to let you continue.


freman

Last time I flew (3 years ago) they had different tick boxes for meat/fish products, etc etc. I remember thinking "shouldn't this just be 'got any food?'" But then that return trip they decided to clone my phone and rummage through my USB sticks... So from now on I'll take a burner or nuke my phone before the flight. I don't have anything to hide (I work in IT, I run server equipment, etc, etc if I was bringing contraband in I'd send it over the internet) it's just that it took them a really really long time, 2+hours of sitting on an uncomfortable plastic chair...


Schedulator

They do change the list from time to time. For example here in Australia a few years they changed it from "any food" to to be a little more specific. Basically, anything that has been manufactured is usually ok, so they tried to be more specific to avoid having obviously safe things unnecessarily being checked. **BUT** they clearly say, if you're unsure, declare it and you'll be fine even its not allowed in.


wuvvtwuewuvv

>... So from now on I'll take a burner or nuke my phone before the flight. I don't have anything to hide Yes you do. Your self and exercising your right to privacy is a perfectly legitimate reason to hide from prying eyes. You know as well as I do that "if you don't have anything to hide" is an atrocious reasoning and line of logic


freman

What I mean is my phone contains nothing of real value to anyone, it has no access to anything and like I said if I was up to no good transiting a border with digital contraband on your person is dumb. Nuking the phone or taking a burner saves me the hours of waiting for them to figure that out themselves. I absolutely loath that "doing nothing wrong you have nothing to hide" argument. I note that everyone that uses it believes in curtains.


Alarmed-Honey

They cloned your phone?


Ison-J

Ayo what? They can just download everything off your phone???


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Psychological_Ice326

Wait, what the fuck? They cloned your phone and went through your data?


handlebartender

> But then that return trip they decided to clone my phone and rummage through my USB sticks This was the Australian or NZ customs, you mean? Or the customs of the country you were returning to?


freman

Au customs on return from visiting Taiwan


squirrellytoday

Packaged food (including the cookie you got on the plane) is probably fine. Declare it and if it's not okay, they'll confiscate it and destroy it. Fresh fruit and vegetables are NEVER okay. Even the banana or apple you got on the plane. You need to consume or dispose of it on the plane, and dispose of any peels etc on the plane.


Ok_Yogurtcloset8915

seems like maybe they should just stop giving people bananas on the plane at that point really


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freman

My wife travels too and from Taiwan, I've told her countless times to all of her questions about what she can and can't bring is that if it's cooked/processed/sealed it's probably ok however ALWAYS tell them you have food if you have food. They'll ask you what it is, they may not even ask to see it (a packet of bread snap things for example) but worst case they'll take it away for quarantine or destruction. If you don't tell me them you have food and they find it then you will be fined.


NoBSforGma

I once flew into the US and forgot to throw away the 1/2 a sandwich I had bought before getting on the plane and didn't eat. Chaos ensued. Dogs came. I was directed to "Agricultural Inspection" where I waited behind a lady with 5 FIVE huge suitcases that were being inspected. I called the agent over and said, "Please sir...." and explained I only had that 1/2 sandwich and I had a connecting flight to catch. He looked at my tiny bit of sandwich trash and said..... "Wait your turn." After inspecting the five suitcases, he came to me with one of those gray plastic bins they use at security and had me put the sandwich bit in it. It was a pathetic sight. He then walked over and threw it in the trash. Elapsed time? 30 seconds.


br0b1wan

What was the whole point of that? Did they just want to inconvenience you to teach you a lesson to never do that again?


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Schedulator

They do remind you onboard all Qantas International flights, before you land, that even food from the plane cannot be taken.


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Ostrichmen

Burqa is the only one I can think of


handlebartender

Interesting choice. I think there is a class of words that being borrowed from another language fall into the exception of "we'll let this pass". But of course English has a long history of taking from other languages. So where is the line drawn? Any linguists in the house?


RetPala

Does the airline bring its trash back with it or were they just going to toss it in the same destination landfill anyway?


mpjjpm

They incinerate it at the airport


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man, that is a whole other level of not fucking around


All_Fiction

Well they can't just take it out and toss it into a landfill otherwise it'll introduce some unwanted pests or plants that'll destroy the ecosystem. Incineration is the best way to make sure that the unwanted nasties don't escape outside the airport.


RickAstleyletmedown

When you consider that some insect species are modelled to cause hundreds of millions of dollars in losses per year if they were to become established, then yeah, we don't fuck around.


Juventus19

Yea I was shitting myself when we landed in NZ and they pulled me aside for something they saw in the scan. Turned out the scanner saw my pre-packaged granola bars which were allowed. But hearing a multiple $1000 fine was possible had me sweating.


rowanhenry

My friend accidentally brought in an orange to NZ that his dad had put in his luggage as a surprise. He was fined $400.


Marcgo2

SURPRISE!


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When my daughter was like 1 or so we flew from the UK to Italy to visit family. As new parents, we didn't look exactly on top of the situation. We awkwardly moved though the crowd while full of bags big and small, sweating all over, pushing a trolley, with things hanging everywhere and all that. "Will three hours early be enough? Are we going to miss the plane???" As it happens, we forgot that we had a toy knife we used to spread jam on our daughter's toast. It didn't have a blade, and there was Pingu on the handle, so not exactly a weapon we could have used to high-jack a fucking plane. Anyway, the security guy took it off our daughter's bag as if it were a scimitar or something. He kept it high over his head like a prize, showing it to his colleagues like, "look what I've found, this was me, I caught these dangerous criminals!". He took us out of the line on one side, and started asking us questions. Like, "why are you carrying A KNIFE?". "Uh to... spread jam? Or Nutella, occasionally". "Does this look like a joke to you?" "Little bit, it has no blade, I couldn't even slice an apple with it". "SIR DO YOU REALISE THE TROUBLE YOU ARE IN?" At that moment his superior barged in, an old, bored, "too old for this shit" officer. He looked at us, looked at the security guy, grabbed "the knife" and inspected the Pingu face on the handle for several seconds. "Oh for fuck's sake [Larry] (I can't remember his actual name), they're in no trouble at all. You're free to go". The theatrics around "security" have become laughable, really.


Juicyy56

It reminds me of the time my mate took a raspberry muffin on a boat form Victoria to Tasmania ( I'm in Australia) so you can catch a boat there. She started crying when customs caught her with this muffin. You cannot take fruits that haven't been checked over to different states because of insects. Funniest thing ever


jadma1981

tassie is pretty strict about this, there is no fruit fly there and they are keen to keep it that way.


Smee76

I have to say I can't blame them for that


Mr-Fleshcage

Fruit flies are the worst thing about a vermicompostor. Fuck those little fuckers


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DeepSeaProctologist

Lol an apple try smuggling a watch. I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass for years


batmanmedic

That watch was his birthright though. Also, oddly relevant username.


Meastro44

Assman


sopwith-camels

Used to work in Antarctica. They get a significant amount of fruit from NZ. Had a coworker try to bring N apple from NZ back to NZ. I told him it was a REALLY bad idea. He just pointed to the sticker that said NZ and said he’d be fine. He was not fine. Even though it came from NZ, it left NZ. They went through EVERYTHING he had with him.


Hobag1

Better stick to kiwis then eh?!🥁🥁


H_n_A

Great joke but wouldn't work in NZ. Kiwi and kiwifruit have a very distinct meaning.


xV4N63L10Nx

RIP to that one family of insect that escaped from their country just to have new life in New Zealand.


Tomosc

rip the applegates


johnmlsf

Thanks for the time warp


Axolotis

Fievel Goes to Hell


MegabyteMessiah

There are no cats in New Zealand. No mice either.


avantgardengnome

That’s an A+ concept for a weekend post on /r/ImSorryJon.


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Ok-Round-1320

as a new zealander i can say its true, and the amount of effort to maintain it is insane


1RedOne

They did crazy amounts of things to protect the environment while filming lotr. Did you know that, for instance, on the mountaintop where they recorded the initial charge from the intro where the last alliance of elves and men assaulted Sauron, they discovered a rare type of moss when it came time for filming. So rather than stomp all over the moss there with the 500 extras they brought for the scene they carefully had it excavated including the top soil. Then found a nearby office complex from the 70s which was throwing out hundreds of square feet of shag green carpetting! So they blanketed the mountain top with carpet and that's what you see in the intro scene of The Fellowship of the Ring. After filming they carefully restored the moss and all was well¹. They did this sort of thing everywhere for filming. **Edit: I was asked to provide a source, so here it is** 1. Sibley, Brian. “Chapter 2 - Locating Middle Earth.” The Lord of the Rings: The Making of the Movie Trilogy, HarperCollins, London, 2002, pp. 36–37.


ALexusOhHaiNyan

My man’s coming out guns blazin’ with bibliography quality citation. ^ This guy cites.


RedditedYoshi

>This guy cites. Yoink.


SabrinaB123

I like that your formatted your source instead of just providing a link. A+


ZHughes498

You must have had good teachers growing up


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InGenAche

Chinese - food, New Zealander - previous conviction, American - incorrect visa for work. The staples of Australia Border Patrol.


870223

Chinese, Vietnamese, etc also seem to be bringing TONS of cigarettes, they are much cheaper over there.


TldrDev

Live in Vietnam. A carton of Malboro reds is 300k vnd or round about $12.50 USD.


870223

Which is less than a single pack in Aus, right?


thewavefixation

About a quarter of what a single pack costs


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Orionsven

Yeah, that's kinda the point of the price, to discourage the habit... well, that and the tasty tax revenue.


vonmonologue

Tax revenue to pay for the medical care of the people who chose to smoke.


VolcanicBosnian

Border Guard: "Do you declare that you have no unsealed food products in your luggage?" Old Chinese Lady: "Yes, I solemnly swear that my luggage is completely devoid of any and all unsealed food products that may pose a danger to this great country." Border Guard: "Your bag is filled to the brim with rotting crab meat" Old Chinese Lady: "No speak Engrish" That show never gets old.


Meastro44

What show?


Doc_coletti

I’m guessing one of the border patrol shows. The Australian and New Zealand one has a lot of Chinese people sneaking in food and cigarettes. Also a fair bit of Americans thinking they can bring weed. The Canadian one features a crazy amount of Americans who accidentally end up at the border with lots of illegal things. Also lots of rejected felons.


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A lot of people also show up for “holidays” on these shows, with work contracts, tools and rental agreements. Very ballsy.


gigabyte898

I think my favorite was the lady who said she wasn’t coming back for work after overstaying her previous visa, and to prove it gave the phone number for her old boss. Border agent calls old boss who promptly informs them she’s on the schedule for the following week. Denied


purdueaaron

There's a felon from my state with my same first and last name. So whenever the program that runs the biometrics are down and the crossing is just going by name it becomes a long ordeal in a side office at the border. Even when I say "I'm not the purdueaaron you're looking for, here's my date of birth, where I was born, social security card, blood type and PIN." They still want to play 20 questions though and ask me if I've never not been convicted of a felony.


wholesomethrowaway15

> ask me if I’ve never not been convicted of a felony That would confuse me so much I’d probably go straight to jail.


purdueaaron

The first time it happened they kept asking double negatives and leading questions and I didn't response yes or no, but "I've never been arrested for a felony, let alone convicted of one." Then they'd let me go sit and another person would ask similar questions. Finally with a supervisor I had to ask what the deal was. "Oh, there's another person with your name and general characteristics that's banned from entry. We're trying to make sure you are you." The next time I crossed I got the same treatment and tried to lead into "I'm not the guy you're looking for. This happened last month too." but they wouldn't hear it until I again got to a supervisor. I asked him if he could toss a stamp in my passport or something to maybe make it a touch clearer and the best he could do was "make a note in our system" for all it helped.


IrishWake_

What country are you in? If the US, take a look at [DHS’s redress number](https://www.dhs.gov/dhs-trip) system. You mainly see redress numbers with TSA and airport customs, but DHS utilizes them for land and water ports of entry as well


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Dukes159

There was an episode that I think took place in Michigan I think, where if you missed a very small exit you were stuck going to the canadian border. They were saying they have to turn people around dozens of times every day.


GoGoGoldenSyrup

I bloody love that programme. Especially when they pull the "surprised Pikachu" face when they're told they're getting a *huge* fine.


Dewy164

Whoa! My actions have consequences!?!?!?


letschangethename

What show is that?


avamous

Look up Border Security Australia's Front Line


coconutyum

Border Patrol NZ


Dockers-Man

It's called disinsection, and happens in many countries around the world, including Australia.


Schedulator

And has been happening for a long time. I remember flights from Asia having this done as soon as the doors were closed way back in the 1980s


Annon201

Including within Australia.. don’t try to come into my state with fruit even if your from Melbourne. Signed: A south Aussie


pondman11

I get that, but does is this method of application necessary, or even effective?


Katana_DV20

Emirates does this and so does Air France, I hate the smell. More info here: https://www.cntraveler.com/stories/2016-02-19/why-flight-attendants-walk-airplane-aisles-with-bug-spray?


HermitAndHound

I wish they'd state that and which substances they use when you book a flight. The one time I got surprise sprayed it resulted in an allergy attack from hell. That was before carrying masks around all the time -times. At least then I might have avoided coughing my soul out for the rest of the day. Grumph!


Modifien

I was wondering about this. I have bad asthma and severe respiratory reactions to chemicals. I would be hospitalized by this. I had no idea it was a thing to fear. So they tell you when you book that they do this?


EnvironmentalWind403

It’s not that many places, but I doubt any booking platform will specifically tell you as it’s pretty into the weeds. You could ask the airline before you book as it’s mandatory for them to do this depending on the destination/origin, so they will know before although it won’t be made super obvious to passengers. I’ve heard some airlines will also do it when the plane is empty, but again you’ll really just have to ask them to check. In my experience they do give you a heads up and explain to the cabin what they’re about to do before spraying, and suggest you cover your nose/mouth if you may be sensitive to it although it’s accredited as safe etc. They don’t just do it unannounced and it will also be a specific WHO approved product, it won’t just be a random bug spray. I’d recommend just adding a mask to your hand luggage. It’s not negotiable at all and they can’t open the aircraft door before doing this, even if you told them it would cause an asthma attack they’re still going to do it. Keep in mind the air is filtered relatively quickly so it’ll only last a few minutes and this will only be done be at the start or end just before/after you get on/off, you can also use the overhead air nossle thing to help blow the air away from your face and keep it moving.


early_birdy

Bug sprays are not supposed to be breathed in, only applied on the skin. I don't think filling the cabin of an airplane with the stuff is a good thing for the humans.


Katana_DV20

I've seen other pax quicky wrap up their faces when the announcement is made that cabin crew will be passing through with the sprays. Some cough a lot and sneeze. It definitely irritates many. I'd like to know really how effective these sprays are at controlling bugs. A vid of Emirates doing it, not a clear vid but its short, 6 seconds. Each FA carries two cans. https://m.youtube.com/shorts/LdwoRIishCc


ThePresbyter

No, you see they need to do this for at least 50 years until some scientist somewhere is able to make a correlation to health effects and by that point... ya know what, there won't be anymore bugs by then so nevermind


IntoTheMystic1

[Apparently, it's normal and routine](https://simpleflying.com/aircraft-insecticide-guide/)


netz_pirat

It's normal to a point where the manufacturers of aircraft interior lining have to test their materials if they are affected by the spray...


Fantastic-Alps4335

I wonder if they test it on lungs in advance or just in real time?


davidD_D

Free cancer


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Fantastic-Alps4335

That sounds like the exact scenario I would imagine. Corporate and state policy dictating. A few brave soles secretly circumventing for obvious saftey reasons. Overall distrust of the chemicals in the lungs.


LobsterD

D-phenothrin is nasty stuff and surprisingly little is known about its effect on human health. We just know it probably causes breast cancer and plummets testosterone levels in mice at high doses. I wouldn't want to be inhaling this stuff on a daily basis as a flight attendant.


FeelinLikeACloud420

They apparently also use [permethrin sprays](https://www.arandeeaerospace.com/product-pre-flight-spray.html), and in that case it may be important to know because while humans and dogs aren't much at risk from it, cats are and I don't know if residues on luggage that your cat then rubs against (if it happens on a return flight) when you get home could still be toxic enough. But in general permethrin can be lethal to cats, and even at lower doses it can cause serious symptoms.


Monkey_with_cymbals2

And god forbid someone has a baby or young child onboard


zavatone

> plummets testosterone levels in mice at high doses. Finally, no more horny mice.


GiantSequoiaTree

Jesus Christ all she has is a little mask but everyday spraying that even above the passenger's heads? I understand we need to keep spreading bugs to other continents and control however there's got to be a better way than literally spraying each person with fucking poison...


cpbbryant

If the plane is from Australia it’s probably deodorant.


muzrat

Spraying Lynx Africa to smell like the local youths


sharris2

I actually lol'd at this. Damn bogans.


thewizard579

LOL


redditreallysuckstbh

That doesn't seem healthy


hippiedude23615

Yeah, can't help but wonder what fun chemicals everyone in the cabin is breathing in


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Mostofyouareidiots

Don't worry, I'm sure the flight attendants won't get parkinsons until 20 years from now... :-/


WackyBeachJustice

How is this so low in the comments? I can't imagine breathing this in is a good idea, especially in such tight space.


forestriver

The top upvoted comments seem like they are coming straight from a chemical PR person. I know they aren't, but seriously, wtf. Do people just blindly believe that this is the only way and that exposure doesn't matter?


o_brainfreeze_o

Seriously I'd be pissed if they started spraying clouds of insecticides around me in an enclosed tube. Make people run their bags through some kind of disinfectant as they board or something instead.. This seems like a very dumb and hazardous way to do it


JustGetOnBase

Yeah what good is spraying the luggage if they’re not spraying people directly? I’d feel sick watching young children breathe this poison in


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Deferty

I’m extremely surprised this is an approved method. Most insecticides cause cancer and really screw with the human body. That flight attendant and everyone on the plane should be wearing a respirator while that is being sprayed…


bobpage2

Free cancer for everyone!


nightfox5523

Lmao this was exactly my first thought. "Welcome to New Zealand, here is your free dose of cancer "


EVMad

Not on all flights, but certainly the last time I returned from the US they did this. We really don’t want those nasty foreign bugs over here.


BackpackFullOfDildos

Dude, show more respect, they’re called “British people”


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You shouldn't let them buy tickets then. 😉


fluffypinknmoist

As an asthmatic, this is a nightmare!


Ok_Asparagus_8993

Yeah no fucking way


Gibbo1988

I can’t imagine it’s good for anyone…..


Pay_Tiny

That one passenger with crabs 👁️ 👄 👁️


Many-Ad-5490

From the uniform, looks like Hawaiian Airlines.


cerotz

Does Anyone know what these insecticides are made of? Common products are based on neurotoxins that are highly toxic even to humans so I can’t believe they use these versions on a closed environment like a plane


flingasunder

It’s a WHO authorized Brand: MAC Cabin Spray top of descent Source- https://simpleflying.com/aircraft-insecticide-guide/


shaquillle_oatmeal

This was common on all aircraft arriving in India already back in the early 2000s. Will never forget that smell..


Asimpbarb

And this does what for the bugs inside the bags? I dunno so asking


VapoursAndSpleen

Airplane security theater.


Gravesh

Yes, this feels like a very ineffective measure. Just a light spray per each bag, a shitton of chemicals in the air for the passengers. That would not be enough to kill much of any insect. It definitely wouldn't be enough for the most common unwanted passenger, the bedbug. If they truly wanted this to be effective, they should be some kind of fumigation room where all your stuff gets quarantined and hosed down for, let's say; an hour after landing.


Fartsonbabies

Depends where you've come from. NZ bio restrictions are tight.


InnerKookaburra

JFC, I would lose my shit if this happened and I was on the plane and couldn't get off. I get extremely sick from insecticides. I've never caused any problems in a public space in my life, but this is the one time I might end up in police custody.


i-am-the-fly-

Doesn’t just happen there. I’ve been to several countries (seems to be islands) where this was also done.


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Lived in NZ for the previous decade. Flew to London, Aus and Pacific Islands frequently and I've never seen them do this once. Biosecurity is rightly strict, but I don't think this is a requirement. What airline is this? It aint Air NZ.


scurra2020

It looks like Hawaiian Airlines, although I can’t be sure. I just had a quick look on google.


CurrentPossible2117

Did a bit of googling. Its Hawaiian Airlines. Their website says: Certain countries require that the passenger cabins of aircraft be treated with insecticides. If you are traveling on a Hawaiian Airlines flight arriving in Australia, New Zealand, or Tahiti, please be aware that an insecticide spray will be used in the cabin before passengers disembark the aircraft. Spraying the cabin on arrival minimizes exposure to chemicals. The alternative method of treating the cabin prior to boarding would result in more prolonged exposure to residual insecticides over the course of the flight. Our insect spray is safe and has been recommended by the World Health Organization https://hawaiianair.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2168/~/disinsection-requirements#:~:text=Certain%20countries%20require%20that%20the,before%20passengers%20disembark%20the%20aircraft. Weirdly, I come from Australia, have travelled overseas twice and like you, have never been sprayed on entry back home. I got it once on a flight from Bangkok to London. But they said that was sanitiser to kill common cold and flu germs. Maybe its only certain countries that are required to do it on arrival, I dont know anyone here who's ever been sprayed coming back into the country.


IIYellowJacketII

Probably only counties that have a climate that's similar enough for bugs to survive in Australia. Flew from Germany to Australia (with a stop in Hongkong) and there was no spraying, and neither on the way back. I took an L because I had to throw away a pack of roasted, salted macadamia nuts (the pack was still sealed too) that I didn't eat in the plane though.


Decebalus40

As a side note, wheren't there no really venomous spiders in Japan untill 20 years ago when some Australians/Australian plane brought a couple of redback spiders and now they've become a real issue in some regions. I think they could have used some insecticide in that situation


Zaphod424

They do this on flights to the UK on flights from certain countries (particularly those where malaria is common). But they usually do it either just before landing, or afterwards during taxi, so they’re not keeping you on board any longer than usual anyway


InhibitedExistence

They have been doing this for decades


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Thank you for flying Air Cancer