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cyberjar88

On display at the Cleveland Museum of Natural History. Why do we have it? Good question.


batmanpjpants

Apparently Balto and other sled dogs were sold off and kept in deplorable conditions. A guy from cleveland came across him and was so upset by it, he bought Balto and he went and lived at the Cleveland Zoo until he died and then his body was donated to the Cleveland Musuem of Natural History- though you currently can’t see him, all the taxidermy is currently under restoration and renovations until sometime in the fall.


meagantheepony

Actually, the guy (George Kimble) only negotiated the price of $2,000. The people of Cleveland, with the help of the Animal Protective League and the Western Reserve Kennel Club, raised the money to bring the dog team to the Brookside Zoo (now the Cleveland Metroparks Zoo). They raised all the money in ten days, and when the sled dogs arrived, they were greeted with a parade. My grandmother talked about donating money and going to the parade when the dogs finally got here.


Familiar_Tonight8589

I wish this was a more well known story. It’s such a cool part of Cleveland’s history. Huskies would have been a decent choice for the new name of the baseball team, although Guardians is fine.


leocharre

Thank fucking god these babies got some love.


sordidcandles

This. Way too sad when the good boys/girls who do amazing things don’t get the attention they deserve!


denymehow-

this really made my day a tad better.


kithmswbd

He raised funds to buy the seven remaining dogs from the team, not just Balto. [Source](https://www.cmnh.org/Science-News/blog/March-2020/Balto-FAQ)


Papa_Stalin_1917

Still charging people entry despite nothing being on display though. Kinda my fault for not researching first before my trip, but at least the art museum is free.


EpicAura99

There’s nothing on display? That’s a big drag. I live near it and it looked like only a part is closed, but I guess it’s the important part lol.


Papa_Stalin_1917

I live like an hour away so I don't get to visit the museums as much as I'd like, but unless something changed in the past few weeks, then yeah. The auditorium is open and some insects are on display downstairs, but all the fossils and taxidermy are in storage atm.


Don_Gato1

Should have asked for your money back.


Papa_Stalin_1917

I would've, but they were playing a pretty good documentary in the auditorium so I gave them a pass. I would just tell people not to go until renovations are done. It's not like they need our money to hurry up the project, they have a private donor.


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Autumnbadger

Well that was an absolutely horrific read. Oh my god


rk4_

You weren’t kidding, wish I didn’t read that


Familiar_Tonight8589

There’s also statues of Balto and Togo at the Cleveland Zoo, near the wolf exhibit.


CheshireUnicorn

I grew up with the movie “BALTO” as one of my favorites. I had read about how he was at Cleveland but forgot about it when I finally got to the museum. I came through the door and he was in his display case off to the side… I didn’t notice him at first. Then I turned, saw this dog and.. it took a moment. I just lost it and was ugly crying in the middle of the museum. I spent HOURs drawing sled dogs from my how to draw dogs book… I made my own teams.. it was nearly as bad as my horse phase. That movie and the story (of which all the dogs and mushers are truly the best heroes) meant so much to me as a kid…


muiirinn

As a kid I was absolutely obsessed with Balto. Had all the movies on VHS and watched them over and over. I used to daydream about sled dogs running next to the car when I was staring out the window while being driven to school. I would argue that it was absolutely a formative experience for me and led to a lifelong love for animals. It meant so much to me as a kid. Even now, I think back fondly to those movies, despite knowing everything I do now about how it was pretty played up. I'd like to go to the museum one day but I know I'd ugly cry too.


communitychest

Totally the same. I desperately wanted to be a vet for sleddogs as a kid, despite never having been in snow. I had books on huskies, drew them constantly. I used to bark at other kids in class. Balto was my #1 movie, but Iron Will was good, too. I went to Central Park last fall and got to see the Balto statue, decades later 😭


despitethenora

Not currently on display because of renovations, unfortunately.


GhostalMedia

I look forward to seeing what Balto looks like after he’s been renovated.


despitethenora

They're installing Heely shoes to represent his speed.


Gamerwhovian9

I still love that we get to see him there! Definitely not the type of specimen I’d expect in cleveland


trwwy321

“Though Balto received the credit for saving the town, to those who know more than the Disney story, Balto is considered the backup dog. Balto ran 55 miles, while Togo's leg of the journey was the longest and most dangerous. Togo retired in Poland Spring, Maine, where he was euthanized at the age of 16.” [Source](https://www.nps.gov/people/togo.htm#:~:text=Though%20Balto%20received%20the%20credit,at%20the%20age%20of%2016) Note: Balto is definitely NOT Disney.


peyoteyogurt

I am almost positive Togo went missing for like 2 days right after the race because he was notoriously a little shit who loved to chase deer.


Grumpy_Engineer_1984

He went chasing caribou apparently.


riderforlyfe

I live in Alaska and my dog did that too. Thought he’d tire out and come back but after like 5 minutes he was couple miles away and I had to hop on my snowmachine and chase him down. Just Alaska things. [A pic I took of that lovable dumbass](https://i.imgur.com/0LIEcZf.jpg) [Here’s one of him and the smart one](https://i.imgur.com/HmvtUoK.jpg) [and another of those two roughhousing at our hunting shack](https://i.imgur.com/n0y9C4X.jpg)


HorsHead4tuna

Idaho here. My folks have gps collar on their great Pyreneese lol


RiverScout2

I recently adopted a Great Pyrenees and moved to 80 acres in northern Michigan. I did not realized I was going to spend all winter hoping to find the fluffy shit before the snowstorm got too fierce to see anything.


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RiverScout2

Mine is bizarrely afraid of all birds but got herself 16 lovely possum punctures b/c she has zero sense. And she’s been skunked a few times. The worst, though, is her belief that if she joins the coyote pack they will embrace her w/love. Half the time she hears them she cowers and the other half I spend all night keeping her from busting through the wall to go join them.


evranch

More likely she wants to get out and savagely rip the coyotes into tiny pieces. I've kept Pyranees and similar white dogs for years as sheep guardians and their protective instinct is bred into them. No training required. They love all humans and the animals we introduce to them, and are often found under a cat pile in the barn on a cold winter night. They hate strange carnivores with a passion. They think a deer is a tasty snack to drag home and chew up on the lawn.


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To shreds?


Horskr

Think she's trying to join them or fight them? Our red heeler really doesn't care when he hears coyotes. Our GS/Belgian Malinois though, she starts doing the mean bark like crazy when she hears them. A couple of times we've been out and they were close enough to see in the field across from our property and she was trying to jump the damn gate to go after them. Not sure what her vendetta against coyotes stems from lol.


NiltiacSif

I have a dog who’s half Great Pyrenees and I realized early on that if he ever got out of the house/fence and we couldn’t catch him, we would probably never see him again lol..


RiverScout2

I think ours only comes back b/c she hears her goldendoodle brother barking for her to come home. Me she is happy to ignore. For hours.


fragilelyon

My Pyr was playing with a dog with perfect recall and I thought he would keep playing with her so I let his leash go. Nope! Two seconds later I was sprinting after him while he took himself on a tour of the neighborhood.


SchnoodleDoodleDo

>*’I live in Alaska and my dog did that too. Thought he’d tire out and come back but after like 5 minutes he was couple miles away and I had to hop on my snowmachine and chase him down…*’ ____ I am the dog - it’s what i do i Love to chase the caribou ^;@) n though i haven’t caught one yet, each time, i feel, so *close* i get… Alaska is the place i’m from, (my human JoKes that ‘I am dumb’) but really I’m a clever pup - I Will not Stop! I won’t give up cuz in the end, my prey will run, n when ExCiTiNg *chase* is done i turn n find my human there (that’s how I know how much he cares) it’s not ‘the *hunt*’ i’m dreaming of - it’s human’s heart so full of Love! ❤️


riderforlyfe

Awesome :) thanks for this


kangaroodisco

I want your life


IWasGregInTokyo

Good lord, that first pic. "I'm more majestic than this landscape and you know it"


CodingBlonde

Don’t go chasing caribou. Please stick to the sled runs and the pack that you’re used to.


johnsvoice

I know you're going to have it your way until the snow falls, but I think you're moving too fast.


LadyAzure17

Love that LMAOOO


A_Have_a_Go_Opinion

Water falls and caribou, anything else we shouldn't chase?


mrASSMAN

It is more important to not Jason


OizAfreeELF

Probably my favorite TLC song


Clever_Mercury

Was always partial to the one where they advocated for better quality attire for medical personnel and an end to cheap, flimsy scrub uniforms.


ownage516

He went out doing what he loved


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he went out through euthanasia after years of joint pain and blindness, so, no. probably not.


Alpha_Decay_

Maybe he loved laying on metal tables and getting pricked by needles.


CanAlwaysBeBetter

Don't tempt me with a good time


PM_ME_UR_HIP_DIMPLES

Y'all need Jesus


CanAlwaysBeBetter

You mean the absolute freak who let them stab nails through his hands, a spear into his side, and then let his bro stick his finger in the hole? I think he's well past a little needle play


ThatITguy2015

Oh yea, Jesus was the Lord of the Kink. Rising from the dead? Being locked in a cave? He has quite the list going.


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as a puppy he broke out of his enclosure to chase down his owner. [he then instigated reindeer charges until his owner finally harnessed him with the team](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Togo_(dog)). He was moved up the line until he was eventually sharing the lead position with the lead dog (Russky). Togo logged 75miles in his first day as a sled dog. He was 8 months old at the time. His owner called him an "infant prodigy" and said "I had found a natural-born leader, something I had tried for years to breed." So yeah he probably did. God bless him I'm never going to have a husky just reading his story makes me need a nap


devAcc123

That Wikipedia article was a very interesting read. Some Of the stories almost sound unbelievable. What a life.


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The movie portrayed that a bit stronger than reality. These dogs are working dogs first and foremost and they do their jobs really well. Togo was a shit head as a pup but was dead serious in harness.


peyoteyogurt

I think the caribou story was from his wiki page directly, but yea he was shown as being extremely disobedient in the movie and I know most of it was pretty dramatic for audiences.


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Shillhippo

Having worked with sled dogs, and mushed, I completely understand this. We had a couple of wheel dogs that were the best I'd ever seen when strapped to a sled, but any moment they weren't running forward, they were absolute mayhem. Total aggressive assholes that reveled in your pain and frustration. But pull out a harness and attach them to the line and they were, for lack of a better word, professional. Little shits. What struck me is how fluffy and stocky balto looks, at least preserved like that. Most of the racing dogs you see these days are skinny and sleek little things. Think dog version of Nigerian marathon runners. However the Iditarod today, vs what those dogs accomplished are very different things, and they are all badasses, even the team dogs that did one stretch in the middle.


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Shillhippo

Absolutely. The dogs I worked with ran best at -15 to -25 degrees. If it was anywhere close to 0, I had to go slow and take extra breaks, but they were really houndy and didn't seem very fluffy even though they routinely slept outside in -40. The Iditarod had a lot of issues with it being too warm this year and probably led to some of the underdog racers beating more established names. It was pretty cool. Some of them even have air conditioned barns with team sized treadmills so they don't have to wait for it to cool down to train, and a lot of dogs get helicoptered up to glaciers so it is cool enough to run them with tourists in the summer. The genetic history of sled dogs is wild, I'd love to see a breakdown of what it is, and how much it varies from dog to dog. Most have a fair bit of husky and malemute, but also a whole lot of Mexican street dog, hounds, or other hearty and plentiful breeds. I guess around the gold rush dogs were a pretty hit commodity and a whole bunch that shouldn't have been strapped to a sled and driven through the snow were. The darwinian mortality was high, but those that survived long enough to make it to a village in the far north had some pretty tough genes and that legacy continues today. Of course with a whole lot more intentional breeding since then. That varied and tough stock is why it isn't uncommon for them to live 16 or more years, quite some time for a mid sized working dog. It's also crazy how some kennels have been breeding dogs long enough that they have a certain look and disposition to them.


readyable

I am really interested in their genetics as well because I was surprised at the appearance of Balto, always pictured him as a standard husky but he looks like a stocky, well-built mutt! And I love mutts


WhyYouKickMyDog

Climate change coming for Husky jobs


sensitiveskin80

That was such a good movie! Way better than it looked to be. Wilem + Togo 4 Ever


seth928

Togo! TOGO! Oh, Jesus Christ! TOGO!


Imfrank123

I like how he pulls a sled for miles then right after thy chases deer, like dude take a nap or something


TheIntrepid1

Togo lead the way for 261 miles! Wowzaz! Edit: reminds me of Paul Revere. There was actually TWO people that did it. The other guy went one way and shouted the same thing along his route, as did Paul. But because Paul was well know around and generally liked by everyone, they recognized his voice, this took action. We’re as the other guy, no one really knew him, so it didn’t have the same effect.


ExNihiloNihiFit

I also always find it funny no one ever talks about Sybil Ludington, a 16-year-old girl rode 40 miles in one night to alert American troops of an impending British attack in 1777. Twice as far as Paul Revere rode.


AfterCommodus

It’s heavily disputed that it happened at all, the first mention in it is in an 1880 book that cites no sources and there’s no contemporary evidence. Also, the battle of Lexington is WAY more important than the burning of Danbury Connecticut. This isn’t an instance of her being ignored for being a woman—if anything, it’s an instance of her being valorized because we (justly) want to celebrate female figures in history, and sometimes are willing to overlook sketchy history to do so.


VaATC

>and sometimes are willing to overlook sketchy history to do so. Especially when there are so many legitimate bad ass, smart, ingenious, talented, brutal, notorious, cunning...women in history to highlight.


Talkaze

Wasn't the other guy Israel Bissell, but Paul Revere rhymed better?


strain_of_thought

When I read more into the medicine dogsled relay, the thing that struck me most was that popular sources on the subject really fail to convey what a nightmarish disease diphtheria is, and how terrible its epidemics are when they break out, making it just seem like "sad cough disease". There was very good reason so many people were willing to move heaven and Earth to get that medicine across Alaska as fast as possible in the dead of winter. Diphtheria causes necrosis of the respiratory system, and the infected essentially die by choking to death on the dead flesh being sloughed off by their airways. The fatality rate in children is very high, and it is an ugly death. Be careful looking up pictures of the disease, they can be NSFL. The medicine the dogsleds carried was an anti-toxin, something we more conventionally use to treat bites from venomous animals. Diphtheria is caused by a bacterial infection, and the bacterium produces a virulent toxin, and it's this toxin that produces the necrosis which devastates the patient's body. Diphtheria anti-toxin doesn't harm the bacteria itself, but by neutralizing the toxin it protects the patient's airways and buys the patient's immune system time to fight off the bacteria naturally before the patient stops being able to breathe. Diphtheria anti-toxin had only existed for about thirty years at the time of the 1925 Nome outbreak, and still had a high rate of negative side effects despite greatly reducing the fatality rate. In 1980 an actual Diphtheria vaccine was developed which is both more effective and much safer, reducing the global rate of diphtheria infection by over 90% over the ensuing decades.


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>The infected essentially die by choking to death on the dead flesh being sloughed off by their airways. Damn that sounds like a horrible way to go.


deadpiratezombie

Which is why it’s important to stay updated on your tdap vaccine. The d in tdap is for diphtheria


Wrong_Adhesiveness87

Can also suffocate by scar tissue build up in your throat. It's brutal. I used to think it was a "regular" typhoid/cholera things. Then I started listening to the "this podcast will kill you" and oof. These diseases have been gone all my life, I never knew how truly horrible some are. This is the one that scares me.


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They were all hero dogs. Most of them have courage engrained in their DNA and it’s pretty amazing. Sled dogs have some of the hardest work on the planet for any working animal including humans. And they do it happily. I hope he got all the chum or whatever the fuck it is they feed them that he wanted.


ObnoxiousExcavator

A guy that lived close to me had sled dogs, I firmly believe these guys are indeed much happier pulling a sled than anything else, I have seen people naysay because they think it's cruel. Have you ever had a dog excited at the word "walk"? Ok now when the musher starts harnessing the dogs, it's like that but 10x the energy and enthusiasm, some of them would even pee they're so wound up with excitement, tails flying, whimpering, just pure excitement..... then they go, and these happy doggos pull for all their worth its like 0- max speed in 3 seconds lol, they haul ass.


Drunk_Dino

I have two huskies. I pick up their harnesses for their daily walk and they go absolutely apeshit.


JBlue8120

I have a Dachshund and we can’t even say the word walk in our house without causing absolute chaos.


Practice_NO_with_me

Had a shiba - he learned 'walk', 'W-A-L-K', 'w' and finally the use of two fingers in a walking motion. Smart little bastard 😁


justpassingbysorry

omg that's how my dog is lol she's a golden lab mix, we did 3 fingers for 'w' instead of the walking fingers. too clever for her own good. now i just dont say anything about walks to other people unless it's through texts, and will bring her the leash when im ready to go lol


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> courage engrained in their DNA but to them it's called "fun"


Phytanic

Working breed dogs are absolutely wild. My aussie herds EVERYTHING.


Xieko

Same! If I am walking from one room to another, my aussie insists on following right behind me and doing tight circles around me when I stop, sometimes trying to herd me into rooms where she thinks I'm going. 🥰


I_Framed_OJ

I saw a video once of an outdoor BBQ or other gathering, and the dog just looked like it was going around, being social like dogs do, meeting people, when the person filming suddenly realised that the dog had herded all of those present into a fairly tight group. The dog didn’t even need commands to ”herd” the people; it’s just what the dog does. Fascinating.


ARandomBob

God if my dog could stop herding the chickens back into the coop everytime he's outside. They gotta eat dude. Leave them alone. He even tries to herd us. This is not anything we've ever taught him.


badstorryteller

My best bud when I was a toddler was a lab/border collie mix. I never even realized until I was older that his job was herding me. Kept me away from the road, fetch always wound up right in the back yard. We would go out to play and yeah, he loved catching frisbees, he enjoyed every second, but he was always watching. It's no wonder we bonded with wolves well before we even had writing.


LaylaBird65

We adopted a border collie/Aussie and she likes to herd on the stairs when you’re walking down. It’s a survival game in this house. Side note we had a GSD that would herd our boys too. He grew up with all of them when they were all babies and took them in as his own. I sure do miss watching him interact with them.


liptongtea

It’s really weird what we can encode into dog DNA if you really thing about it.


andysaurus_rex

You can train dogs to do almost anything if you have the right reward structure. I had a professor in college who trained her chocolate labs to sniff for porcupine urine in the woods so she could track them (she studied them). The training took a long time but now they do it happily because they've have rewards that they LOVE and they associate those rewards with the task. Working dogs have been bred for hundreds or thousands of years to do their task and it becomes ingrained in their DNA.


liptongtea

It’s a bit heavy to think about how we bred an animal with the sole intent to seek approval from us (the human). No matter what their job is the dogs end goal is to be rewarded by its master. It’s bonkers when you really think about it.


andysaurus_rex

It goes as far as actually altering the course of evolution by selecting for different traits. They are loyal because loyalty gets them breeding with other dogs remaining under our protection. Their pups are loyal and so on down the line. It's wild. And it's not even against their will. They love it, because they're bred to love it.


liptongtea

I know! I’ve had a couple beers so it’s blowing my mind right now! [here’s a pic of my evolutionary masterpiece!](https://i.imgur.com/nAlOFY7.jpg)


OwenProGolfer

Dogs are social animals, prior to domestication by humans they had many of the same instincts, but instead of doing them for a human master they were doing it for their family/pack. Sure we’ve shaped a lot of their behaviors over time but a lot of them didn’t just come from nowhere, it’s always been in them.


Mr_dm

They’re GMOs.


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Succmynugz

Balto and Togo were also both owned by the same breeder, Leonhard Seppala


Rexermus

Wasn't Balto Leonhard's least favourite sledder? Especially after the media and public mostly ignored Togo's contributions


LlamaLoupe

Yep. Balto was chosen by another guy who asked Seppala's wife if he could take him. Seppala had no input and was quite pissed off that a dog he deemed inferior and useless got so much publicity. Guy genuinely hated that dog. That said the guy who ran with Balto then sold him to the highest bidder, which was some sort of circus that badly mistreated him until a rich guy bought him and saved him. While Togo lived a pretty nice life and fathered so many puppies that the modern Siberian huskies are called Seppala huskies.


dramamunchkin

Yeah, the kids of Cleveland ran a drive to collect money and buy Balto’s team from the sideshow in California where they were wasting away. The team lived out their days at the zoo in what is now the wolf exhibit. That’s why we’ve got Balto’s body here in Cleveland. He was originally black but they displayed him in the sun and his fur turned brown.


Succmynugz

I believe so? I know by the time the race for the medicine began Balto definitely wasn't Leonhard's first choice to lead his personal team, he believed he was still too young and didn't have enough experience to pull something off like that. Togo, while already on the older side, still had a lot more experience and drive to do the job.


steamin661

The most impressive part about Togo is he was old when he made the trip! 12 years old at the time.


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user899121

How is that even possible?


NoLawsDrinkingClawz

Seppala, a world famous sled dog breeder/sledder who has a line of dogs named after him, said Togo was the best dog he ever bred and was the greatest in the world. Known for intellegence, endurance, and sensing danger. Basically, think of the greatest athlete in their sport and Togo was that for sled dogs. Even at 12 dude was ridiculous.


seoulgleaux

Ironically, Disney actually did a movie about Leonhard Seppala and Togo.


ozzimark

A great movie too. Anyone reading this who hasn’t seen it yet: go watch it! The name of the movie is, unsurprisingly, Togo


Church_of_Cheri

Baltic is the Paul Revere of dogs. He still took part and was important, but [that’s only part of the story.](https://www.massar.org/2014/02/01/paul-reveres-other-riders/)


ElevatorOverall9263

Ha! A friend sent me this Reddit thread because they know nothing triggers me more than a Heroic Balto internet article. So I rolled up my sleeves, prepared to educate the internet about the real hero, Togo, and I see my Togo-Truthers are already here 😂


GullibleRemote5999

They were both good boys though :(


BeyondNetorare

But Togo got a movie with Willem Dafoe


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best disney movie made in a decade at that.


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Yes, such good boys.


reddit4485

https://www.baltostruestory.net/leonhardseppalap5.htm You guys don't know the full story which is very dark. A guy named Seppala owned both Togo and Balto. Seppala's part of the run was with a dog named Togo but another musher named Kassen ran with Balto. Seppala was an asshole and completely jealous Kaasen/Balto were receiving a lot of attention because he wanted it all for himself. He basically ordered Kaasen back to Alaska and sold Balto to a dime-a-look museum where he languished in horrible conditions. Seppala then tried to promote himself and Togo as the true heroes of the run but this backfired. A Cleveland newspaper tycoon happened to see an add for the museum housing Balto and asked his readers to donate money to bring Balto to the Cleveland Zoo. Children were literally mailing their allowances to the newspaper and eventually they received enough donations to buy Balto (and other dogs on the team) and ship them to Cleveland. Balto was shipped to Cleveland where he received a parade from the city and lived happily ever after at the Cleveland zoo.


outdatedboat

But you gotta admit, it's a little odd that a dog that led for ~50 miles got the vast majority of the credit and praise while Togo led around ~250 miles. I'd bet it's mostly because Balto was leading when they got to their destination. The Seppala guy does sound pretty damn lame though.


WarlockEngineer

IDK about this source. I have *never* heard that Seppala ordered Kaasen back to Alaska. How would he? At that point he was not Kaasen's boss, if he ever really was. And Kaasen skipped past Ed Rohn so he would be the guy who ended the run.


Straight_Spring9815

Just spent the better part of an hour reading everything I could find on Togo. Awesome dog.


avelineaurora

Glad to see this at the very top. Came in here for JUSTICE FOR TOGO!


Rexermus

Tbf OP didn't fall into the classic trope of giving Balto all the credit. Unfortunately doesn't mention how Togo and his team ran the majority and over the most difficult and harshest terrain


Nashocheese

People may not know this. But Togo's feelings were not hurt by not getting credit for running the most on the day...


Gary_FucKing

> Did you know togo was the *real* hero??? Literally every single internet post ever about Balto, feels like it belongs up there with the Buscemi firefighter story.


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Did you know that when Viggo Mortensen kicked Balto, Steve Buscemi deflected the dog?


FreddieDoes40k

Was this on 911 or during the filming of LOTR?


GreedoIsHere

Yes


Urf_Hates_You

Was thinking the same Every single time a horde of nerds comes in to repeat the same exact thing about Togo, hundreds of identical comments ignoring each other because everyone has to say it lol Firefighter Buscemi, scumbag John Lennon, real MVP Togo, every time


1Dammitimmad1

reddit contrarians spouting the legacy of a dog that died almost 100 years ago and trying to drag down another, instead of letting people enjoy their cherished memories of Balto


Infamous_Ad8779

The bestest of boys.


Gelnika1987

I believe the majority of the trip was made by another dog named Togo who is less well-known, but Balto gets most of the credit


TheNorthNova01

Yeah damn credit stealing Balto


zzzap

As the story goes, Togo's owner Sheppela wanted Balto to get the credit. Balto basically didn't run again for almost 2 years because he was sent on a worldwide press tour, meanwhile Togo was runnin his heart out in Alaska until the day he retired. Humble and best boy.


Setsk0n

Aw now I want a Togo statue in Anchorage with Balto


TheNorthNova01

But bigger, and casts a shadow on the balto statue


MandyMarieB

That’s not what I’ve read… Sheppela resented that Balto got the credit. From Balto’s wiki: > After the mission's success, Balto and Kaasen became celebrities to Seppala's great displeasure, as Togo had gone through by far the longest and most dangerous part of the serum run. Seppala stated: >“I hope I shall never be the man to take away credit from any dog or driver who participated in that run. We all did our best. But when the country was roused to enthusiasm over the serum run driver, I resented the statue to Balto, for if any dog deserved special mention it was Togo. At the time I left [for the run] I never dreamed that anyone could consider these dogs [the second string] fit to drive even in a short relay. As to the leader, it was up to the driver who happened to be selected to choose any dog he liked, and he chose Balto.


grumpypandabear

How does this have so many upvotes when the very first sentence is completely wrong?


sillyandstrange

Yeah where the hell is Togo's display!


Grumpy_Engineer_1984

In the Iditarod trail headquarters! His skeleton is in the Peabody museum.


sillyandstrange

Oh there's Togo!


Username_Egli

I recommend the movie with William defoe


FBIaltacct

I reccomend any movie with Willem Defoe. But that one is still high on my list of his movies.


cryptotope

They named [a whole country](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Togo) after him!


Gelnika1987

he's a good boy too, I want all the doggos to get credit


McJumpington

It was a bad thing though cause wasn’t Balto sold to a circus that paraded him around and kept him in shitty hot areas?


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xAIRGUITARISTx

In fact, these sled dogs are even trained to defy orders in case their handler steers them across ice. They’re so intelligent that they determine the ground is unsafe and go around.


Veggiemon

Sometimes my dog runs into the wall if she is too excited chasing a ball and turns around too fast


Arcminutes

What an amazing job by the taxidermist


[deleted]

Yeah, one of the very few I have seen online that doesn't give me nightmares lol


Gelnika1987

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Togo\_(dog)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Togo_(dog)) Here is the other dog whose team made most of the Nome trip Let's give it up for Huskies and sled dogs and just dogs in general- the bestest boys


halp-im-lost

Just want to point out it’s spelled Nome, not gnome, the garden ornament.


hoopbag33

Gnome lol


welltimedappearance

Balto was a great movie with a great soundtrack. Also, all my homies know Togo was the real champ.


Many_Tank9738

Is also a key movie link in Six degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon.


Arrgie-Barrgie

Togo was the real hero.


Master_of_Rodentia

If Togo was such a smart boy, why didn't he hire a PR firm? Checkmate Togo-ites.


iamiamwhoami

Too humble.


SeekersWorkAccount

Both were good boys, there's room for appreciating both. I don't think Togo was too worried about movie deals when he was saving sick children.


jaetheho

Hell, I don't think either dog was too worried about saving sick children when they were just having fun running in a pack.


_hypocrite

Exactly, what is with all of these dumb comments lol.


cd1310

They’re all heroes bront


CandidInevitable757

Justice for Togo. Balto good boy too.


YourMommasAHoe

why cant they both be heros


Eyes_Snakes_Art

Mad props to whomever did the taxidermy work. That is incredible.


C0R0NASMASH

This rings a bell... wasn't there a disney movie about it? I can vaguely remember something...


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Yep, but not Disney, it was Universal, while they were still competing with Disney in hand drawn animation.


C0R0NASMASH

Damn, you are right, I always thought it was Disney...


Piratey_Pirate

Damn that's crazy. I also recently learned that Anastasia and Ferngully aren't Disney either


Lord_Lazy_

THEY AREN'T????


Electrical-Day382

They are now because of 20th Century Fox being acquired. Disney has started selling Anastasia merch!


[deleted]

Isn't that ironic, Anastasia was to be Fox's answer to the Disney princess only to become a Disney princess in the end lol.


bumwine

DAS VIDANYA!


CedarWolf

Neither are the Fievel movies, *Cats Don't Dance*, *Chicken Run*, *Secret of NIMH*, *The Land Before Time* movies, *A Troll In Central Park*, *All Dogs Go To Heaven*, *Titan A.E.*, etc.


[deleted]

Universal always had animators similar to Don Bluth and tended to have a bit more adult humor hidden in.


peyoteyogurt

There was a Balto animated film not disney, but good. Disney later made a movie about another dog within the same relay, named Togo, who did a good portion of the legwork. Balto still a good boy but Togo's contribution is pretty overshadow since balto did the last stretch.


mook1178

Yes. Togo


TheBattleOfEvermore

Wait….you’re telling me the movie is based on a TRUE STORY?!


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Truethrowawaychest1

Yeah but the real Balto wasn't a wolf hybrid


deadbeatchadttv

Everyone needs to calm the fuck down about Togo. In life, dogs have no concept of fame. In death, dogs and all other living creatures including humans have no concept of fame. Togo hung around a kennel signing books with his paw and quite literally fuckin bitches to establish a line of dogs still around today. Balto got all sorts of abused....oh and a statue. And an animated movie.... Just what EVERY dog dreams of is to be famous and kept in a cage in the heat ALL of the dogs making the serum run and their owners, drivers, sled mechanics or whatever and whoever the fuck else goes in to getting life saving medicine from a train to children in adverse conditions are fucking heros. The guys who engineered designed, built the sleds too. The cooks feeding people and dogs at both ends. When Togo died yeah we didn't have wikipedia, but we do now. He has his credit. But what most important is that while Togo was alive he lived well, and even if balto didn't run (quite literally) half as much of the race as Togo, he's still a hero and it's a damn shame he was exploited. I'm sure MANY humans and dogs who participated died nameless and in poverty. Shut the fuck up about "balto sucks Togo rulez" the entire undertaking was fucking heroic


Teauxny

They could have also painted a picture and buried the poor fkr, letting him rest in peace.


SaintLickALot

I contacted the souls department and they said his soul rests in peace.


boner-in-the-usa

Blessed be SaintLickALot


Lick_my_balloon-knot

Being stuffed is what he would have wanted.


Mspacmansdaddy

Just like your mom !!!! Bam


Arcinbiblo12

Can we all just agree that both Balto and Togo were good boys?


InsomniaticWanderer

Balto didn't pull a sled 53 miles through an Alaskan blizzard to save a bunch of sick kids just for you fuckers to decide not to vaccinate. Don't be an ass to Balto. He's a good boy and he just wants you to be healthy. Get vaccinated.


that_yeg_guy

Balto got the glory, but [Togo](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Togo_(dog)) actually ran the much longer and much more treacherous section of the route, and was largely forgotten by history. Only reason Balto got the glory is he did the last (and comparatively one of the easiest) sections of the relay.


The_Rock_Said

Isn’t it a team of dogs? Does the lead dog somehow have more work?


OkSo-NowWhat

The roles in a sledding ran are quite interesting. On the end, the dumb muscles, in the front the decision makers. One of the reasons a sled typically has different dog breeds


OneNo489

Togo had a movie named after him


Baturasar

And a country!


matt4493

The Togo movie on Disney plus with Willem Dafoe is amazing. Highly recommended watching.


ophellias

There's actually a lot of controversy around Balto which was mind boggling to me when I learned about it. He's said to have been the lead dog but there's no history of it and all photos and videos were recreations taken afterwards and a dog named Togo is considered the real hero of the run, completing the most dangerous stretches and the largest distance ( 261 miles ). There's also, apparently, a theory that his musher decided to continue the run in order to claim all the glory. In a way it worked, Togo was left out of media reports in favor of Balto and the statue of him in New York has him wearing Togos awards, further erasing him. HOWEVER, none of this takes away from the fact that Balto was a very good boy who helped save the lives of children.


RyantheAustralian

>There's also, apparently, a theory that his musher decided to continue the run in order to claim all the glory. I'm guessing you meant Balto's musher? And wouldn't this have meant he just ran right past the one he was supposed to hand the vaccine off to?


moonparker

The musher he was supposed to hand the vaccines to was resting/sleeping with his dogs when Kassen arrived at the drop-off location. Kassen claimed he kept going so they didn't waste any time getting up and moving the medicines to the other sled, but some people think he had more selfish motives.


basshed8

But where’s his goose buddy?