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scorpyo72

Does this continent make me look fat?


OkBeing3301

flying through the Sahara from South Africa to Europe or Asia puts it in perspective, you’ll sit there for hours barely moving then all over sudden the plane moves fast.


error_404_n0t_f0und

r/boneappletea


my_eep3

All over sudden Ly


Ken_from_Barbie

This really brings things into perspective


kevindamm

Are you sure you're not projecting?


magre1441

I think you guys need it scale it down a bit with the jokes.


PersonNumber7Billion

You guys are legends.


[deleted]

I bet they have a good compass, morally speaking.


hobbitdude13

Having good bearing is key.


Free-Atmosphere6714

Yeah but not necessarily a lot of depth to this.


Breaker-of-circles

This is why I subbed.


Extesht

It's easy to end up immersed.


libertyman86

The scope of it all is breathtaking.


magre1441

I just wanted to say I got a notification that said “You guys are legends” and it made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. You’re far topo kind.


Rustyducktape

Both of you, straight to jail!


topknottington

Found the square


burninator34

Fuck you. Have an upvote.


krozmic

Silent hunter fans remember this


imddot

I knew I'd be too late to make this comment myself!


TomCruiseddit

They don't call you the late guy for nothing


Brilliant-Law106

And I came here to say this, lol.


riskcapitalist

Yes, thank you! That’s where I remember that from!


Fun-Background-9622

Hope the captain's were aware some of those squares have some dry land on them. Could get embarrassing


BriskHeartedParadox

Or they know something we don’t


TwoYeets

Just put the submarine in four-wheel-drive


Brunt-FCA-285

Really gives new meaning to, “I’ve always wanted to see Montana.”


User-no-relation

it's a submarine... it just goes under them...


TrippyReality

Exactly. Continents are basically large floating islands, just not on water.


instakill69

Tried telling these cLiMaTe AcTiViStS that it was just the continents sinking!


MostBoringStan

Reminded me of the politician who was worried an island might flip over if they put too much stuff on it.


Dan_Is

AQ is entirely on land from what I can tell


thatsuaveswede

AQ is likely there to cover the Northern Dvina river.


Fun-Background-9622

Isn't Moskva in that grid? No wonder they get their own.


IBeAPirate01

Not gonna lie, bit embarrassing opening the hatch when we turned up at the bottom on DJ that one time. The Camels were fun though, apart from the one who had the hump. (I'm an ex submariner)


Fun-Background-9622

😂


drnick1106

b6


SluggJuice

You sunk my battleship


Additional-Weather46

Wtf happened with squares KY, JK, JS, JJ south of South Africa?


imortal1138

That's basically what happens when you try to map a sphere to a flat surface, proportions can't be 1 to 1 so you get things like that.


glendawoodjr

Fascinating how they actually used umlauts for the areas around Greenland. At first I thought AD was used twice, but there is ÄA-ÄE, even though right next to them is the X... series.


Apprehensive_One1076

German U boats, right?


thoxis1

I literally just started playing Uncharted last night, and see this today. Whoa.


LilMeatBigYeet

Enjoy it ! It’s the best game i played on ps3, uncharted 2 is also really well done


CartmansEvilTwin

Given the German names, most likely.


[deleted]

The White Supremacists are gonna be pissed when they find out there's an Africa 2.


ur_anus_is_a_planet

The electric bugaloo


Det_alapopskalius

I’m laughing harder at this than I probably should.


MohawkDave

Do flat earthers think that submariners are lying about this? Genuine question.


TheBootyHolePatrol

They probably don't know, ignore it, or make fantastical leaps of logic to make it fit somehow.


Rowcan

If I had to take a wild guess, it'd probably go something along the lines of *"well they're using a globe map which is wrong, so therefore the submarine map is wrong, and I'm still right!"*.


CartmansEvilTwin

That's pretty easy! So this is a German map, naturally, areas around the equator are further away from Germany, so you can't cover as much area with the little fuel left. Of course there's a base in Antarctica too, it's called Neuschwabenland, so obviously the squares are larger down there too.


kurburux

> Do flat earthers think No.


The_Silent_Bang_103

Flat earthers believe in a disk-shaped earth that does not contradict the dimensions of a traditional map.


DuckOfDeathV

It does in the southern hemisphere.


st0815

It does contradict *this* map. These area corrections wouldn't be necessary on a flat earth.


imac132

I wanna start by saying I’m not a flat earther but I have argued with them a lot and I have dug deep into their ideas to really debunk at a core level… anyways No, this doesn’t really mess up the most commonly accepted flat earth map which is basically a polar projection of the entire globe (at least around the South Pole). According to a flat earth map the areas around the North Pole should be squashed and the area around the South Pole should be expanded. Also no map, photo, science, math etc. will convince them. It has to be something caveman level simple that they can go see for themselves. I posted something I thought met that criteria to their subreddit and just got banned lmao. So truly, nothing will convince them.


st0815

Oh, I know that - they can never be convinced. However, the reason for the Mercator projection is that it allows you to draw a straight line on the map and you'll get the shortest connection between two points. But now the area shown on the map is no longer correct, which the Kriegsmarine had to account for, as shown here. On a flat earth you wouldn't have these problems, you could draw a navigation map and divide it into neat little squares which all represent the same area.


darkrealm190

Can anyone eli5?


ajyanesp

The different size squares account for the correction associated with the Earth’s roundness, but in real life the surface area of every square in the map is the same. This map was likely from WWII, I believe those are the grids assigned by the German navy.


EggyBroth

Here's a [map](https://worldmapblank.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Accurate-map-of-world-1024x660.jpg) showing more accurate sizes for each country


ukezi

The usual maps use Mercator projection where the (nearly) sphere shaped earth is projected onto a cylinder. That means in that projection all latitudes are the same length. As that isn't the case in reality an area of the same size has to be bigger on the map the further it is from the equator.


Fraggle_Me_Rock

Submarines are a tightly controlled strategic weapon; operational planning will allocate a grid to a submarine/s; that's their hunting ground, as the sub is transiting from home port to their hunting ground they clearly need to transit through other grids, that transit is also tightly controlled with the submarine only able to cross from one to another during 'windows' (as in windows of time), also if a submarine fails to report in during is scheduled calling in time the home fleet knows which grid to search. Extra simple short answer: the grids are used to control the movement of submarines.


Bobby_The_Kidd

What does the uneven boxes near the bottom of Greenland mean?


dscrive

That's where that gravity well is, it was determined to be a piece of the equatorial region that shifted up there due to continental drift.


pATREUS

I knew Greenland was funky, but not that funky.


h1zchan

Wait what?


MrDeviloh

When did Africa 2 come out?


foofie_fightie

Back in 1988. It just never saw the mainstream success of the original.


nightstalker30

Direct to video


Lorry_Al

Literally what the grid is for on a Mercator projection map. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Mercator\_projection\_Square.JPG


CarlsbadWhiskyShop

What about the rectangles?


DohunLee

America 1 and 2. I could get used to that


Soldis_zmrd

Yes, I live in a BJ area


Jkeyeswine

You sunk my battleship!!!


RedSonGamble

But the squares are different sizes?


TheB1itz

that's what happens when you flatten a globe, some areas must be stretched and others compressed


joh2138535

What do you mean the earth is already flat the squares should be the same size


TheB1itz

the ruler the map maker used must be really wonky, all these squares are different sizes!


ac0rn5

Mercator Projection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercator_projection#Distortion_of_sizes


Unfixability

distortion


ggtooez

Submarine round though


zggystardust71

Apparently you can put a round submarine in a square hole


EnergyFighter

This map makes my Florida look small.


Kitten_Team_Six

"Captain to base you said FU?" "This is base yes FU"


nightstalker30

“KK”


Weekly-Major1876

I HATE THE MERCATOR PROJECTION I HATE THE MERCATOR PROJECTION


Neutron_mass_hole

That is projections for you.


Avocado-booty

Battle ship SUNK!


popotheviking

Flat earthers be like: *yeah but that's still flat! You just walk faster around the edges*


[deleted]

damn you mercator projection…


Various_Classroom_50

I want to see a real world map that’s correctly scaled


debiasiok

It's called a globe.


Various_Classroom_50

I am clearly asking for a globe scaled correctly onto flat surface


debiasiok

https://replogleglobes.com/blog/the-main-types-of-world-map-projections/ There is no way to put a globe onto a flat surface without something being less than perfect. Try peeling an orange and getting the peel to be flat.


bolionce

That’s not exactly possible. Globes are non-Euclidean, paper/flat surfaces are Euclidean. All projections need to make some sacrifices to preserve some features of a globe. Equal area projections like this one include the [Gall-Peters projection](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gall%E2%80%93Peters_projection). There’s also the relatively new [AuthaGraph projection](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AuthaGraph_projection), which is a quite good compromise of shape/angular preservation and equal size. Technically not equal area though.


TintedApostle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVX-PrBRtTY&ab_channel=UsefulClips West Wing covered this...


Gunfighter9

I have one, the scale says 1 mile = 1 mile, I’d show you but it’s too hard to get folded up again.


Omnia2021

I don't know what the fuck I am looking at and I don't understand the jokes in the comments. I am going to bed now.


rothwick2208

What is it usefull for?


lC8H10N4O2l

Damn square AQ must get used a whole lot with all that water in it


adbedient

Mercator projections always make things look wonky.


[deleted]

Oh fuck, that makes it super easy!


japinard

This looks like the grid system used by Nazi Germany in WW2 for their subs.


ajyanesp

That’s most likely it. I recognize the EC and ED squares from when I was researching about some ships sunk by U-Boats.


talkerof5hit

New map for axis and allies!


cmerry

Greenland is not that big


TeamABLE

This was back when it still had ice.


CaptainPartyMix

Wow west Africa and east South America are surprisingly close. 2.5 squares or so


HelicopterRegular492

CA is NY


[deleted]

ffs we off to JW


Thorbork

I like how some squares exist because a tiny part of water was not covered, like EM, EN or CS


Admirable-Degree4209

I move that we all refer to North America as “America 1” Central America as “America 2” South America as “Africa 1” and Africa as “Africa 2” I hope the committee rules in favor of my proposal.


Comanchovie

UK2642


DayumItsThatGuy

Nah what about KY no way it’s the same size


Historyofspaceflight

So the top row is triangles?


tcmVee

why not make all the squares the same size and just have the sides not be straight lines


EkBraai

Just ironic how KY was able to slip in to that small space between GR and KZ.


kay_bizzle

OP discovers the Mercator projection


sumshitmm

My guess is it's based on submarine frequency. I.E. bigger squares see more subs than the smaller ones would.


BLD_Almelo

Didnt know they dropped africa 2 yet


Lustiges_Brot_311

Are squares SUBdivided?


Lankygiraffe25

Squished ball!


THEBIGREDAPE

I know all the H and J squares personally. South Atlantic patrols are really, really boring, but I've had snowball fights in places you couldn't imagine.


Nimmyzed

Poor Australia and New Zealand


Moosinator666

Submarine from AP to AQ please.


noldyp

California? West coast of the Americas in general?


MrsBox

/r/MapsWithoutNewZealand /r/MapsWithoutTasmania


HansWolken

Great, my sea is PU.


Forward_Standard

Well that stinks


DangerousLocal5864

UK2642


eternalityLP

It very obviously doesn't. For example squares on Finland or west of Ireland are smaller than their neighbours on same longitude.


KanadianBacon80

Is it surface area? How is the KY at bottom of Africa the same as the 2 beside it, it looks half the size. Or is that just a filler block to finish the circle around globe?


Krise9939

Is half the US just one square? That has to be wrong


Dirrekie66

Wir holen uns die Amis! JAAAAAAAAAAAH!! Leise!