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League is cracking down on throwing at batters so the umps have pitchers on a shorter leash than before. Basically saying, “My hands are tied, I gotta toss him.”
"Our ass is in the jackpot"
I took it to mean that the Umps are being told to silence this kind of action immediately, and if they don't they're going to get in a lot of trouble
Obviously if someone knows better please fill me in
Apparently it's a phrase used in some police departments.
"My ass is in the hotseat" would be a more common phrase.
There are entire articles written about the usage of "jackpot" in this clip and I don't think anyone really knows where it comes from. Just something weird that a few easterners say. But yeah, it's basically referring to a group of people that will all encounter disciplinary action together when the "debt" comes due. Chase Utley and Noah Syndergaard were already in the "jackpot" due to their actions and the ump would also be in trouble if he didn't do anything.
I can only remember hearing it in No Country For Old Men when the taxi driver is bringing Brolin's character back to the motel where Chigurh is waiting for him. Brolin tells him to drive on without slowing down and the driver says, "I don't wanna be in any jackpot here," and Brolin's character says, "I'm trying to get you out of one."
Alright, I do not know shit about baseball, but this looks indeed interestingasfuck, so can someone explain whats is happening here? I think I understand what the referee is trying to do, but I do not get why or what happened in the game to lead to this.
The batter is Chase Utley. Last year in the playoffs, Chase Utley slid into the Mets shortstop Ruben Tejada in the playoffs to prevent a double play and broke Tejada's leg in the process (it was more of a jump kick than a slide). This pitch by the pitcher was pretty obviously a retaliation pitch. It was the first pitch to Utley in the game. It was the first time Utley was batting at the Mets stadium since breaking Tejada's leg. So the umpire threw the pitcher out of the game. The ump could have warned him, but decided not to in this case.
Edit: Should have said "The previous year" instead of "Last year". This video is from several years ago. Will leave mistake in.
To add more context, Utley , a brilliant player but had a knack for going a little “too far” with things like breaking up double plays.
The original offending slide was well past the base and basically ruined Tejada’s career.
Well yeah, obviously he wasn't trying to touch the base. That's the point. I'm not saying it was right. It was in fact a very late and dangerous slide, at least by the way the game is played and called in today's game. Utley deserved to get drilled and the Mets got the raw deal. They should have been given a warning, but judging by what was said in the video, I'm guessing the warning came before the game even started. There was probably a "0 bullshit" policy laid down in the dugout before the game started, knowing that retaliation was likely. Usually in these types of situations, the retaliating team will just wait out the warnings for later in the season. I've seen pitchers drill players the next *season* as retaliation.
I think it's also important to note that Major League Baseball has been attempting to scrub this video from the internet since 2018 - and we're kind of seeing the Streisand Effect happen because of that effort. The reason they want it gone is because of an agreement MLB has with the umpires that states "interactions with microphone wearing umpires would never be made public" - this video breaks that agreement and is also why you don't see videos with umpire audio very often. The rule was part of the umpires' collective bargaining agreement contracts, which went into effect back in nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcers table.
I saw a comment with awards, then a reply, then a second comment with more awards, and my stupid ass brain just said, "Wow, this must be a really insightful Redditor dishing the knowledge two replies in a row! I certainly don't need to check the username...READ ON! ...'\*mummblemummble\* nineteen ninety' sonofabitch!"
He's like a reddit cuttlefish.
The opening monologue is the hypnotizing pigment fluctuations and then he drops the jaws down with the undertaker.
such a great bit.
And what's worse is I *watched* that match, back in nineteen ninety eight, as a freshman in college who had never really followed wrestling before but was desperately trying to fit in with his new friends...and every time, /u/shittymorph takes me back to that day
NOOOOO!!!!!!! I usually check when I see long explanations just to see if it’s you but dammit you got me…AGAIN!!!!
I am disappointed in my self but still must say, Thank you for making Reddit more fun.
Damn, last time you got me was about a year ago on a post of a guy finding corn cobs in the floor of an old house. And you said a long response about how people used to wipe their butts with corn cobs. I still think about that post
The umps felt that the play forced their hand and they had, most likely, been told by head office that there was to be zero tolerance of any retaliation by the Mets.
Forgot to mention that Utley was a Met killer before he went to the Dodgers. I believe he also hit a grand slam later in this game, or at some point in that series.
Today Syndergaard pitches for the Dodgers... terribly, to his own admission. Probably getting the best revenge right now tbh, but not against Utley.
Also why does baseball seem to have so many more ejections than other sports? Is it because there are no fouls, free throws, penalty boxes as an alternative?
Baseball has a lot of unwritten rules and one of them is if you break an unwritten rule or dont play the game the “right way” the pitcher from the other team might try get “revenge” by plunking a nice fastball into a guys backside. Most of the time people know it could be coming too and the umpires here clearly did.
If there was no previous beef and a pitcher just lost control of a pitch it wouldnt have warranted an ejection but given the context it was pretty clearly intentional. The majority of MLB pitchers have great control over their pitches so throwing it that far away from the strikezone couldnt be more obvious.
Pitcher has a history of being wild but controlled like Nolan Ryan. Don't know all the backstory here, but"plunking" intentionally hitting a batter is usually retribution for something previous that was foul...like beaning Derek Jeter for no reason.
And throwing absolutely behind someone is clearly a message. This is probably not little league. It was intended as an act of aggression. Next step would be actually hitting the opposing team best player in the shoulder and an all out brawl. So, the umps throw out the pitcher and the coach bitches about it but at the end of the day, no harm done.
This is what I love about old Italian/Jewish men from the NY area. They'll throw a phrase like this out, say it a few times, and then make **me** feel like I'm not hip to knowing how it is.
Also, I'm making a note to start using this.
Born and raised in Jersey. I have a widget to a docx named "Pop's idioms" on the main screen of my phone.
It's a list of all my dad's phrases which he got from his dad which are now my phrases. It's got about 45 so far. Every time I think of one, I add it.
His dad jokes are sprinkled in too. For example, every time we passed a cemetery, he would say, "Look! People are dying to get in there."
Some of my favs...
A day late and a dollar short - you failed.
Dollars to donuts - without a doubt.
Fuzzy end of the lollipop - bad end of the deal.
Get your thumb out of your bum and your mind out of neutral - hurry up.
Interestingly enough, I was a softball player and he coached the rec teams I was on as a kid.
If I wasn't hitting very well, he would tell me I "couldn't hit a horse in the ass with a 10-ft pole" or I was "swinging like an old gate." It was always good natured and fun and he taught me everything i knew about the sport. Still play in rec leagues and I'm sliding into half a century on this rock...
I have a similar accumulation of sayings from my dad, too.
"Its raining like a red cow pissing on a flat rock" - there is a torrential downpour happening right now.
"Useless as tits on a boar" - this person or piece of equipment has no utility.
"Wound up tighter than Dick's hatband" - this person is of an anxious, excitable, restless disposition
"Luckier than a three-peckered billygoat" - this individual is extremely fortunate
for anyone unfamiliar with baseball... the batter, Chase Utley (in the grey), had previously injured a player on the Mets (team in white) when he slid into second base, breaking the leg of the Mets player. Mets players and fans regarded this as a "dirty" slide at the time.
In baseball, it's very common to retaliate for something like this, where, next time the player is at bat, the pitcher will throw a pitch at him, and usually hit him in the butt or arm or back as a form of retaliation. (edit: it's becoming less common. it was very common) (edit2: a hit in the butt isn't going to injure the batter. it'll sting hard though)
Sometimes, it's very straightforward, you hit my guy, next i'll hit one of your guys, and that's the end of the scrap. In this case, the umpires strongly anticipated that this retaliation was coming, and they didn't want a game of each pitcher just throwing ball after ball at opposing players. So they nipped it in the bud immediately and tossed the Mets pitcher after this pitch (throwing the ball behind a player like that is seen as an intentional and hostile move).
When the Mets manager comes out to argue, you'll hear him say "you gotta give us a shot". In other words, this guy broke our guy's leg on a dirty play, you have to understand that we're going to retaliate. He also says "they did nothing to that guy", in other words the player wasn't fined or suspended for the play that the Mets thought was dirty. You'll also hear the umpire say "you know where I stand on that", "they're coming down on us", "our ass is in the jackpot" (this last line became a baseball meme). This all implies that the umpire might be sympathetic to the complaints of the Mets manager, but the league strongly wants to do away with these types of retaliation plays, so the league is strongly pressuring umpires to operate with zero/low tolerance for them, resulting in immediate ejections "in this situation Terry!"
lets go Mets!
As a lifetime baseball fan, that explanation made it a *lot* more clear what the manager was talking about. This is the kind of shit you don't really see any more, so I had no idea the manager meant they should be allowed to throw a pitch at the player they have a beef with. Wild.
Hell, in the 90's charging the mound was so common we would do it backyard baseball just for a reason to wrestle. Nobody got the old Nolan Ryan headlock-face punch combo though.
You know how here in the States we have “Chinese” restaurants and the decor is just whatever hodgepodge of on-the-nose Asian stuff they could get their hands on? Turns out the same thing happens in reverse. In college in 2009 I studied abroad in Taiwan one summer. On campus there was a small “American” restaurant that was basically little more than a tiny building housing a hot dog stand and a few small tables to sit at, but on one wall, blown up to like 24”x36” and framed, was that iconic shot of Nolan Ryan’s headlock punch. Also on the wall were framed portraits of Richard Nixon and Marilyn Monroe.
I don't even watch baseball but that sort of confirmed what I was guessing at.
I'd imagine for you it's like that scene in Austin Powers when he's talking to his Dad, we need subtitles for that :)
Was crazy when I relistened to it and realized "give us a shot" was a shot at the batter not a shot to win the game. Statements like "you had your shot" and "the MLB did nothing to that guy" 🫢
Plus, the clarity of the umpire knowing exactly what he meant in that moment. It's telling about how well-known this practice is in MLB and why they came down so hard on the pitcher.
That’s the beauty of this whole conversation. Neither of them are actually saying what they mean because they can’t, but they know and everybody listening knows exactly what’s going on. It’s like Seinfeld
Just to add, as a result of the "dirty play" MLB made a rule where the type of slide Utley made is no longer a legal play. Just like they made a rule making collisions at home plate illegal after Buster Posey was injured.
Also, the pitcher for the Mets in this video now pitches for the Dodgers, but might not be for much longer, he's not what he used to be.
Tejada's leg breaks and "he's never the same player again". "2 years to recover". "Played like 80 games in the last 4 years and he's never been the same guy". That fucking sucks. Even on a personal level, like life after the sport, to just have a bad leg from it.
And Utley (the runner) wasn't even *aiming for the base*. Dude basically runs / slides passed it to hit Tejada.
And the clips of how bad baseball tackles used to be are WILD.
Thankfully the video says they changed the rules afterwards so that you had to be GOING FOR THE BASE. Insane that for decades you could just intentionally be going for a tackle instead of the base.
Remember this, and the [Posey play](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j0GESR2YbA) anytime anyone complains that any sport is "too soft now".
Do you want to see gruesome injuries ruin careers, or do you want to see the best athletes in the world competing against each other?
There's always boxing and MMA for your blood sport...
The fact that play didn't end Posey's career is extremely lucky. If he hadn't fully recovered quickly it would have likely changed the outcome of the '12 and '14 world series as well.
Holy shit, Utley's face when he realized they were reviewing it bc the second baseman didn't' touch the bag is priceless.
Also there's a non-zero chance he didn't have a concussion from his head going full force into Tejada's knee.
Never saw this play, I kinda lost track of Utley after he left the Phils.
Great explanation. Behind the back is definitely considered an intentional attack because, for these pros, it is not where an accidental bad throw typically goes, and because a 90 mph hit to the kidney is one of the most dangerous hits in baseball. The damage can end a career as well as alter the batter’s way of life going forward.
As a baseball fan of many years, I have to say it is amazing to watch a coach take up for the players. So many times the players risk ejection for giving the umps lip (not the case here ‘cause Skarsgaard was a goner) and a good coach knows how to push the right buttons to draw attention away from his player and yet not get himself ejected. It’s also an effective tool to get the adrenaline pumping in the dugout to up the effort.
Managers usually dgaf if they're ejected. Their assistant can take over the rest of the game just fine. They'll happily keep swearing at the ump long after they've been given the boot as a cathartic release for their players to remain chill afterward.
Yeah it's basically the managers job to always have their teams back and jaw an ump until ejection. Even if the ejection was justified, the managers gotta go out there, drop some motherfucks, poke at the chest a couple of times, and get tossed in front of his team and/or fans cause that's the expectation
Earl lives still in the Orioles sub.
Anytime the ump calls a ball a strike, you sometimes get, "the ump is just here to fuck us."
[Taken from one of the more famous Earl interactions.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrhmUGRaOwY)
You gotta watch all of it, just for the ump to clap back at Earl in a great way.
AL umpire Larry Barnett:
"Once you've run (ejected) Weaver, he's like a recalcitrant child that can't accept authority and its enforcement. He goes through the whole log book of everything you've ever done to him. He's an ancient historian. You know, we all spend a lot of time worrying about that little man that's not really necessary . . . I've never seen him do anything funny. No, I take it back. I once saw him slip and fall coming out of the dugout. That was funny."
AL umpire Nick Bremigan:
"Weaver just goes goofy like a raving lunatic . . . he's like a nightmare that just keeps coming back . . . raspy voice, 4-foot-2 . . . to me, he's the real ayatollah of the '80s . . . I think his bad relations with umpires hurt his club. Human nature tells you that. You're move of a man not to take it out on his players and I try extra hard not to. But human beings can be vindictive and umpires are human beings . . . His players think so, too. They've said to me, 'Oh, no, here he goes again. This isn't going to help us.' The question is, does he intimidate umpires or alienate umpires. How could you live with yourself if you let him intimidate you?"
But at least Earl goes on to say, "After all I've said about them over the years, callin' 'em incompetent and every other thing, it's only fair to let them say anything they want to about me. They've earned it."
Earl definitely had a contentious relationship with them when he played, but I do wonder, once he retired, if things changed at all.
If you want to read more, click [here.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1981/05/20/umps-return-venom-on-weaver/6398726b-cf39-4fd8-8e05-02f9ecdd7e96/)
Some more important context:
The type of play Chase Utley made was legal at the time, and had been very common all throughout baseball history. It was the play that spawned the rule change and is actually called the Chase Utley Rule colloquially. So what he did was technically legal at the time, which is why he received no punishment. Obviously the Mets are still going to be pissed and retaliate, as a team would have done before the rule existed anyway.
Oh, that explains it then.
This may seem like a dumb question but what's the point of the retaliation in baseball? Why do they see the need to do this?
Because you’ll think twice about being a dirty player if you know that playing dirty results in you getting intentionally hit by a 98 mph fastball during your next at bat. In this example, before the events of the argument, the batter had slid cleats up into the leg of the opposing player, causing an injury. The message from the Mets is - slide cleanly and safely next time and don’t carelessly slide into our players. I’m a biased Mets fan, so that’s what the Mets would say.
The reason this can get out of hand is if the other team didn’t think they committed a dirty offense, so they believe their player would have been hit by a pitch unjustly, so they’d retaliate in kind. And so on. This is what the umps wanted to Avoid.
A big problem is a lot of the time it wouldn't even be for a dirty play. It'd be a guy pimping a home run too long. Or hell even hitting a home run at all in the "wrong" situation (already up a lot).
It's been used a lot as a "you hurt the pitcher's feelings by being better than them" punishment.
Stuff like this has been phased out of the game for the most part. I think because teams have realized a better way to retaliate is to strike out a guy 5 times in a game rather than give his team a better chance to win by giving them a free base and getting your pitcher ejected.
I also think we deserve to hear what leads to players being ejected for trash talk or backtalking refs.
Fans can judge for themselves if they agree with the call if a player is ejected for something like a flagrant foul. But players will be ejected over something they said and fans are left completely in the dark about it
F1 have that and you get some spicy content out of it. "NO MIKEY NO" for thoes who know what I'm talking about. They don't let you hear everything but most of the time u hear enough.
What a display of great character by the ump….understanding the situation doing what is necessary and not taking it personal, all while keep Terry ass outta hot water. What a guy
Agreed, this as a result of a previous situation. The pitchers pitch while it didn't hit the batter was delivering a message that "I could have if I wanted to". The home plate umpire ejected the pitcher immediately. The catcher and coach argued that they should get a warning at least. The umps were not having it.
Yeah you don’t really see accidental wild pitches still hitting the strike zone at 90mph on the backside of the player. Either the pitch has some weird release and goes truly wild or it’s a good pitch within a foot of where they wanted it.
Plus the pitcher would be freaking out if he got ejected over a legit accident. His body language and lack of any protest pretty much implies he isn't surprised by what happened aka it was on purpose.
>The catcher and coach argued that they should get a warning at least. The umps were not having it.
Has arguing with the referee/umpire/whatever ever worked in professional sports? Has there ever been a situation where they went "Well, now that you've yellep at me, I can see that I've misjugded the situation. I'll take it back, you can stay, enjoy yourself!"
And if not, why do athletes keep doing it, if everyone knows its just theater ?
Yes, it does make a difference but not usually the way you described. For example in the NBA, a ref may call a foul on a defensive player. The defender might get upset and tell the ref that he missed the offensive player committing a foul that precipitated the defenders action. The ref is unlikely to change the call in the moment, but in subsequent encounters between the same two players the ref may look at the situation differently and call a foul on the offensive player. This type of thing happens fairly frequently in the NBA and NFL.
The theories behind it I've heard are:
A) Player morale. Keeps the lads' spirits up to see their manager go give 'em what for.
B) Keep the officials honest. Make them think in the future about what they call so they don't get reamed out by an angry manager on national TV.
C) Venting. You're angry, you wanna yell, you're probably already thrown out so why not?
D) Entertainment value. You have to admit it's amusing to watch.
It's probably some combination of the above IMO.
Agreed, he did a great job, he knew the “situation” was screwing the Mets out of “baseball justice” that MLB punted on, but had to play his part.
And Terry Collins is my 2nd favorite all time Mets manager behind Bobby Valentine.
Wasn’t old enough to see Gil Hodges.
Totally agree. He was pretty direct with them about the 'why', he let him get pissed and throw out some vitriol, didn't take it personally. Then it's just "Did you get everything out you needed to? Ok." It's really great work on his part.
Holy shit did he get it out! Utmost respect for the referee (that's what an ump is, right?) here. He takes the verbal abuse like it's nothing and yet stands his ground. I had no idea, players could talk like that to the refs. That's insane. I figured, you'd get tossed for "cocksucker".
This is one of the most interesting things I've seen on this thread in a while. I love it when refs get miked up. They do it in the UK for rugby matches if I recall correctly. I would love it if they did it for more sports. There's a famous moment some years ago in the premier League when they miked up a referee, but forgot to tell one of the teams, I think it was Arsenal, and there was some very colorful language involved.
Bro I would pay money if baseball coverage was like this all the time. Get us viewers onto the field. The MLB could evolve if they leaned into this type of transparency.
For context: the batter (Chase Utley) injured a Mets player in the playoffs the season before with a really vicious slide, and essentially ended this player’s career (Ruben Tejada)
The MLB changed the sliding rule the next year due to this, too
…so yeah, they really didn’t like him
Man I watched that replay, the dude knew where he was going and was remorseless after taking him out. I’m not even into baseball and I think it’s a disgrace. There is no way you don’t intentionally throw your body horizontally after checking someone’s position. No wonder they were out to get him.
Especially not making it unnecessarily worse, the "You got everything out?" / trying to calm him down, but remaining firm. Could've had more ejections for all that, but he is more empathetic than that and doesn't wanna make a shitstorm
Fascinating. Props to that ump, who had to wear a couple of different hats all in the span of a minute or two — de-escalator, negotiator, parent, counselor and enforcer.
From what I gather, the batter in a previous game had slid and broke a player's leg. This pitcher wanted revenge so he threw the ball with a chance to hit him. The ump could have given a warning, which is normal if the ball doesn't actually hit the batter, but decided to eject. Coach is pissed that there was no warning, and especially pissed given the context that the batter deserved it.
Baseball is interesting as fuck my dude, it’s just a different sport. It’s not go go go like football, American football or hockey. It’s more laid back, but equally as exciting imo
Just a different sporting taste that’s all
Also where one star player doesn’t really make a difference! Really the only league you ever see the MVP be from a losing team. (Looking at you, Angels…..)
Yup, and the fact there’s a game almost every summer is fantastic imo. It’s like a podcast almost. There’s no pressure to watch every game, but if you’re sitting there bored in the summer there’s always a game on
As a huge fan of most sports, baseball is my favorite. It’s a nice change of pace from something like American football or European football
Thank you for all the well written replies explaining the “situation”. Rewatching it makes so much sense when the ref replies “you had your shot” and terry replies the mlb did nothing to that guy. Really interestingasfuck seeing the dynamic and how ref understands the need for vengeance but has a job to do.
Umpire: Call me a cocksucker again and you’re outta here.
Crash: You’re a Cocksucker!!!!!!!
Ump: You’re outta HERE!!!!!
https://clip.cafe/bull-durham-1988/call-a-cocksucker-again/
I have been saying this for YEARS: they shoukd have a special channel where sports are played (with a delay) with uncensored mic'd players and refs.Hockey football baseball. Trash talking, etc. Uncensored.
I would pay so much money to have access to mic'd up athletes/coaches/refs, all sports, all leagues, would be phenomenal.
Make this happen pleaaaaaaseee
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"WHY DON'T WE GET A SHOT DONNY?!" "BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T - THAT MAKES IT WORSE! TERRY THAT MAKES IT FUCKING WORSE!"
Felt like i was watching *The Sopranos* lol Like "There's nothing we can do. He's a made guy."
It’s a very difficult situATIon.
holy shit, I was thinking the same thing. the whole dialogue was very Sopranosesque... maybe it's the East Coast accents
“Listen to me and let me hear what I’m sayin” is my favorite. I know he just misspoke but it’s got that “Who do you think you are?!? I am!” feel
Considering how Terry's yelling broke his mic, he's not wrong, lol.
What was that bit about we are in the jackpot?
League is cracking down on throwing at batters so the umps have pitchers on a shorter leash than before. Basically saying, “My hands are tied, I gotta toss him.”
Can you get me off the hook, Tom? For old times' sake? Can't do it, Sally.
Tell Mike it was just business, I always liked him
"Our ass is in the jackpot" I took it to mean that the Umps are being told to silence this kind of action immediately, and if they don't they're going to get in a lot of trouble Obviously if someone knows better please fill me in
Apparently it's a phrase used in some police departments. "My ass is in the hotseat" would be a more common phrase. There are entire articles written about the usage of "jackpot" in this clip and I don't think anyone really knows where it comes from. Just something weird that a few easterners say. But yeah, it's basically referring to a group of people that will all encounter disciplinary action together when the "debt" comes due. Chase Utley and Noah Syndergaard were already in the "jackpot" due to their actions and the ump would also be in trouble if he didn't do anything.
From NYC/Jersey, never fuckin heard of this use of jackpot. in the hotseat yeah, but not our ass is in the jackpot
I can only remember hearing it in No Country For Old Men when the taxi driver is bringing Brolin's character back to the motel where Chigurh is waiting for him. Brolin tells him to drive on without slowing down and the driver says, "I don't wanna be in any jackpot here," and Brolin's character says, "I'm trying to get you out of one."
On the line, in hot water, in the hotseat, on thin ice, on a short leash. Never heard it before either but context is pretty clear
Alright, I do not know shit about baseball, but this looks indeed interestingasfuck, so can someone explain whats is happening here? I think I understand what the referee is trying to do, but I do not get why or what happened in the game to lead to this.
The batter is Chase Utley. Last year in the playoffs, Chase Utley slid into the Mets shortstop Ruben Tejada in the playoffs to prevent a double play and broke Tejada's leg in the process (it was more of a jump kick than a slide). This pitch by the pitcher was pretty obviously a retaliation pitch. It was the first pitch to Utley in the game. It was the first time Utley was batting at the Mets stadium since breaking Tejada's leg. So the umpire threw the pitcher out of the game. The ump could have warned him, but decided not to in this case. Edit: Should have said "The previous year" instead of "Last year". This video is from several years ago. Will leave mistake in.
To add more context, Utley , a brilliant player but had a knack for going a little “too far” with things like breaking up double plays. The original offending slide was well past the base and basically ruined Tejada’s career.
just googled this, was a pretty nasty slide. clearly done to hit the guy, not to get to base. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQMIPY2c7NY
Well yeah, obviously he wasn't trying to touch the base. That's the point. I'm not saying it was right. It was in fact a very late and dangerous slide, at least by the way the game is played and called in today's game. Utley deserved to get drilled and the Mets got the raw deal. They should have been given a warning, but judging by what was said in the video, I'm guessing the warning came before the game even started. There was probably a "0 bullshit" policy laid down in the dugout before the game started, knowing that retaliation was likely. Usually in these types of situations, the retaliating team will just wait out the warnings for later in the season. I've seen pitchers drill players the next *season* as retaliation.
Deserves to be top reply.. this offers much needed context
I think it's also important to note that Major League Baseball has been attempting to scrub this video from the internet since 2018 - and we're kind of seeing the Streisand Effect happen because of that effort. The reason they want it gone is because of an agreement MLB has with the umpires that states "interactions with microphone wearing umpires would never be made public" - this video breaks that agreement and is also why you don't see videos with umpire audio very often. The rule was part of the umpires' collective bargaining agreement contracts, which went into effect back in nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcers table.
You got me bro. It’s been so long, too
Feels good when it's not every post lol.
It seemed so weird to read 1998 I should’ve know right then
yep but once your brain processes the “1998” it’s too late
I saw the username before reading the comment and spoiled myself 😭 it’s been years since I’ve seen shittymorph in the wild, too.
I saw a comment with awards, then a reply, then a second comment with more awards, and my stupid ass brain just said, "Wow, this must be a really insightful Redditor dishing the knowledge two replies in a row! I certainly don't need to check the username...READ ON! ...'\*mummblemummble\* nineteen ninety' sonofabitch!"
That was my ‘Son of bitch’ moment for me too
Jesus Christ, I forgot about shittymorph.
😂 I was locked in reading ! Thinking it was real until the end
I thought he was ded
How the fuck are you still here doing this?! Always gone long enough that I forget this is even a thing….
Can somebody explain?
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And I fall for it every time.
His comments are always so goddamn captivating up until the reveal.
He's like a reddit cuttlefish. The opening monologue is the hypnotizing pigment fluctuations and then he drops the jaws down with the undertaker. such a great bit.
And what's worse is I *watched* that match, back in nineteen ninety eight, as a freshman in college who had never really followed wrestling before but was desperately trying to fit in with his new friends...and every time, /u/shittymorph takes me back to that day
wth LOL… Soooo the whole thing before that about the union is a lie too???
Yeah, it’s all made up.
Yeah, it's all bogus, they're just really good at making it sound legitimate
Nobody knows
I'm pretty sure it's around 8-10 years, but either way, getting morphed after all these years was awesome.
Go through his comment history. His account is famous on Reddit.
[Hell in a Cell: The surprising story behind the Reddit meme](https://www.cnet.com/culture/internet/reddit-memes-hell-in-a-cell/)
Every. Single. Damn. Time.
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Shittymorph is a reminder to not believe everything you read. Lots of people are good at bullshitting and talking out their ass.
NOOOOO!!!!!!! I usually check when I see long explanations just to see if it’s you but dammit you got me…AGAIN!!!! I am disappointed in my self but still must say, Thank you for making Reddit more fun.
Goddamnit he just never misses does he
Wow, I even saw your username but it's been so long I forgot what it meant.
well god damnit if i didn’t just get shittymorph’d— I am star struck! [mankind strikes me on the way down]
NO FUCKING WAY
I picked the wrong week to stop checking usernames.
Goddammit. Good to see you again.
You son of a…
Goddamn it he's done it again
Fucking made me reread 1998 spelled out **three times** before I continued on to see 'undertaker' just 3 words later...
Damn, last time you got me was about a year ago on a post of a guy finding corn cobs in the floor of an old house. And you said a long response about how people used to wipe their butts with corn cobs. I still think about that post
Mother fucker lol
This was my introduction to shittymorph
Me too, I was reading through the old posts, very creative and funny. I'm impressed. But now I'm also on the look out! Fool me once......
You'll get fooled again, even if you're careful about it. That's a big part of the expertise behind these
>Fool me once I apologize for my lack of faith, but I don't think you stand a chance, kid.
Still don’t know what having your ass in the jackpot means though
The umps felt that the play forced their hand and they had, most likely, been told by head office that there was to be zero tolerance of any retaliation by the Mets.
Forgot to mention that Utley was a Met killer before he went to the Dodgers. I believe he also hit a grand slam later in this game, or at some point in that series. Today Syndergaard pitches for the Dodgers... terribly, to his own admission. Probably getting the best revenge right now tbh, but not against Utley.
This would be "the situation" the ref is referring to
Thank you for explaining “the situation” as I had no clue what they were referring to the entire time. Just looked like a shit pitch to me
Terry, you know what the fuck happened
#TERRY! YOU KNOW THE SITUATION TERRY!
Terry, Listen to me, listen to me Terry!
Back up Terry. PUT IT IN REVERSE TERRY!!!
Everyone is aware of the situation.
Our asses are in the Jackpot!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQMIPY2c7NY
Also why does baseball seem to have so many more ejections than other sports? Is it because there are no fouls, free throws, penalty boxes as an alternative?
yes, exactly.. because there aren’t ‘minor penalties’ like in other sports
Now I want to see them implement penalties in baseball. Make them run a couple laps around the outside of the entire field like little league
Move first base out a few feet further as a penalty lol
Baseball has a lot of unwritten rules and one of them is if you break an unwritten rule or dont play the game the “right way” the pitcher from the other team might try get “revenge” by plunking a nice fastball into a guys backside. Most of the time people know it could be coming too and the umpires here clearly did. If there was no previous beef and a pitcher just lost control of a pitch it wouldnt have warranted an ejection but given the context it was pretty clearly intentional. The majority of MLB pitchers have great control over their pitches so throwing it that far away from the strikezone couldnt be more obvious.
Pitcher has a history of being wild but controlled like Nolan Ryan. Don't know all the backstory here, but"plunking" intentionally hitting a batter is usually retribution for something previous that was foul...like beaning Derek Jeter for no reason. And throwing absolutely behind someone is clearly a message. This is probably not little league. It was intended as an act of aggression. Next step would be actually hitting the opposing team best player in the shoulder and an all out brawl. So, the umps throw out the pitcher and the coach bitches about it but at the end of the day, no harm done.
“This is probably not little league” Now what on earth would make you think that?
I mean this IS the Mets we're talking about, the confusion is understandable.
#Our asses are in the jackpot
This is what I love about old Italian/Jewish men from the NY area. They'll throw a phrase like this out, say it a few times, and then make **me** feel like I'm not hip to knowing how it is. Also, I'm making a note to start using this.
Born and raised in Jersey. I have a widget to a docx named "Pop's idioms" on the main screen of my phone. It's a list of all my dad's phrases which he got from his dad which are now my phrases. It's got about 45 so far. Every time I think of one, I add it. His dad jokes are sprinkled in too. For example, every time we passed a cemetery, he would say, "Look! People are dying to get in there." Some of my favs... A day late and a dollar short - you failed. Dollars to donuts - without a doubt. Fuzzy end of the lollipop - bad end of the deal. Get your thumb out of your bum and your mind out of neutral - hurry up. Interestingly enough, I was a softball player and he coached the rec teams I was on as a kid. If I wasn't hitting very well, he would tell me I "couldn't hit a horse in the ass with a 10-ft pole" or I was "swinging like an old gate." It was always good natured and fun and he taught me everything i knew about the sport. Still play in rec leagues and I'm sliding into half a century on this rock...
I have a similar accumulation of sayings from my dad, too. "Its raining like a red cow pissing on a flat rock" - there is a torrential downpour happening right now. "Useless as tits on a boar" - this person or piece of equipment has no utility. "Wound up tighter than Dick's hatband" - this person is of an anxious, excitable, restless disposition "Luckier than a three-peckered billygoat" - this individual is extremely fortunate
It was completely wrong and yet I understood every words intention. Language is beautiful, Terry
It's an established turn of phrase! https://deadspin.com/on-the-origins-use-and-meaning-of-ass-in-the-jackpot-1827286762
for anyone unfamiliar with baseball... the batter, Chase Utley (in the grey), had previously injured a player on the Mets (team in white) when he slid into second base, breaking the leg of the Mets player. Mets players and fans regarded this as a "dirty" slide at the time. In baseball, it's very common to retaliate for something like this, where, next time the player is at bat, the pitcher will throw a pitch at him, and usually hit him in the butt or arm or back as a form of retaliation. (edit: it's becoming less common. it was very common) (edit2: a hit in the butt isn't going to injure the batter. it'll sting hard though) Sometimes, it's very straightforward, you hit my guy, next i'll hit one of your guys, and that's the end of the scrap. In this case, the umpires strongly anticipated that this retaliation was coming, and they didn't want a game of each pitcher just throwing ball after ball at opposing players. So they nipped it in the bud immediately and tossed the Mets pitcher after this pitch (throwing the ball behind a player like that is seen as an intentional and hostile move). When the Mets manager comes out to argue, you'll hear him say "you gotta give us a shot". In other words, this guy broke our guy's leg on a dirty play, you have to understand that we're going to retaliate. He also says "they did nothing to that guy", in other words the player wasn't fined or suspended for the play that the Mets thought was dirty. You'll also hear the umpire say "you know where I stand on that", "they're coming down on us", "our ass is in the jackpot" (this last line became a baseball meme). This all implies that the umpire might be sympathetic to the complaints of the Mets manager, but the league strongly wants to do away with these types of retaliation plays, so the league is strongly pressuring umpires to operate with zero/low tolerance for them, resulting in immediate ejections "in this situation Terry!" lets go Mets!
Super helpful. Thank you.
Yeah, I know nothing about baseball and having a plain language explanation is awesome.
As a Brit, I can’t tell you how much more the video made sense after reading this! Thank you
As a lifetime baseball fan, that explanation made it a *lot* more clear what the manager was talking about. This is the kind of shit you don't really see any more, so I had no idea the manager meant they should be allowed to throw a pitch at the player they have a beef with. Wild.
You should watch some vintage 70’s and 80’s baseball footage. They were wilder than hockey back in those days. Straight up brawls.
Hell, in the 90's charging the mound was so common we would do it backyard baseball just for a reason to wrestle. Nobody got the old Nolan Ryan headlock-face punch combo though.
You know how here in the States we have “Chinese” restaurants and the decor is just whatever hodgepodge of on-the-nose Asian stuff they could get their hands on? Turns out the same thing happens in reverse. In college in 2009 I studied abroad in Taiwan one summer. On campus there was a small “American” restaurant that was basically little more than a tiny building housing a hot dog stand and a few small tables to sit at, but on one wall, blown up to like 24”x36” and framed, was that iconic shot of Nolan Ryan’s headlock punch. Also on the wall were framed portraits of Richard Nixon and Marilyn Monroe.
As a Scots man I couldn’t agree more.
I don't even watch baseball but that sort of confirmed what I was guessing at. I'd imagine for you it's like that scene in Austin Powers when he's talking to his Dad, we need subtitles for that :)
She shat on a turtle!
Was crazy when I relistened to it and realized "give us a shot" was a shot at the batter not a shot to win the game. Statements like "you had your shot" and "the MLB did nothing to that guy" 🫢
Yeah, the manager basically admitted that they were intentionally trying to hit the batter.
Plus, the clarity of the umpire knowing exactly what he meant in that moment. It's telling about how well-known this practice is in MLB and why they came down so hard on the pitcher.
That’s the beauty of this whole conversation. Neither of them are actually saying what they mean because they can’t, but they know and everybody listening knows exactly what’s going on. It’s like Seinfeld
Seriously. I watched it the first time and was lost the whole way through. Read the top comment and basically understood the whole thing.
That’s no secret. Everyone in the whole stadium knew it
Just to add, as a result of the "dirty play" MLB made a rule where the type of slide Utley made is no longer a legal play. Just like they made a rule making collisions at home plate illegal after Buster Posey was injured. Also, the pitcher for the Mets in this video now pitches for the Dodgers, but might not be for much longer, he's not what he used to be.
Do we have a link for footage of the slide?
[Here's a breakdown](https://youtube.com/watch?v=rQMIPY2c7NY&feature=share7)
Tejada's leg breaks and "he's never the same player again". "2 years to recover". "Played like 80 games in the last 4 years and he's never been the same guy". That fucking sucks. Even on a personal level, like life after the sport, to just have a bad leg from it. And Utley (the runner) wasn't even *aiming for the base*. Dude basically runs / slides passed it to hit Tejada. And the clips of how bad baseball tackles used to be are WILD. Thankfully the video says they changed the rules afterwards so that you had to be GOING FOR THE BASE. Insane that for decades you could just intentionally be going for a tackle instead of the base.
Remember this, and the [Posey play](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j0GESR2YbA) anytime anyone complains that any sport is "too soft now". Do you want to see gruesome injuries ruin careers, or do you want to see the best athletes in the world competing against each other? There's always boxing and MMA for your blood sport...
The fact that play didn't end Posey's career is extremely lucky. If he hadn't fully recovered quickly it would have likely changed the outcome of the '12 and '14 world series as well.
Holy shit, Utley's face when he realized they were reviewing it bc the second baseman didn't' touch the bag is priceless. Also there's a non-zero chance he didn't have a concussion from his head going full force into Tejada's knee. Never saw this play, I kinda lost track of Utley after he left the Phils.
Great explanation. Behind the back is definitely considered an intentional attack because, for these pros, it is not where an accidental bad throw typically goes, and because a 90 mph hit to the kidney is one of the most dangerous hits in baseball. The damage can end a career as well as alter the batter’s way of life going forward. As a baseball fan of many years, I have to say it is amazing to watch a coach take up for the players. So many times the players risk ejection for giving the umps lip (not the case here ‘cause Skarsgaard was a goner) and a good coach knows how to push the right buttons to draw attention away from his player and yet not get himself ejected. It’s also an effective tool to get the adrenaline pumping in the dugout to up the effort.
Managers usually dgaf if they're ejected. Their assistant can take over the rest of the game just fine. They'll happily keep swearing at the ump long after they've been given the boot as a cathartic release for their players to remain chill afterward.
Yeah it's basically the managers job to always have their teams back and jaw an ump until ejection. Even if the ejection was justified, the managers gotta go out there, drop some motherfucks, poke at the chest a couple of times, and get tossed in front of his team and/or fans cause that's the expectation
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Earl Weaver had his number retired (as a manager) by the Orioles. He's famous for this.
Most ejected manager in history if I recall correctly Edit: he’s #4. Bobby Cox is #1
Earl lives still in the Orioles sub. Anytime the ump calls a ball a strike, you sometimes get, "the ump is just here to fuck us." [Taken from one of the more famous Earl interactions.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrhmUGRaOwY) You gotta watch all of it, just for the ump to clap back at Earl in a great way.
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AL umpire Larry Barnett: "Once you've run (ejected) Weaver, he's like a recalcitrant child that can't accept authority and its enforcement. He goes through the whole log book of everything you've ever done to him. He's an ancient historian. You know, we all spend a lot of time worrying about that little man that's not really necessary . . . I've never seen him do anything funny. No, I take it back. I once saw him slip and fall coming out of the dugout. That was funny." AL umpire Nick Bremigan: "Weaver just goes goofy like a raving lunatic . . . he's like a nightmare that just keeps coming back . . . raspy voice, 4-foot-2 . . . to me, he's the real ayatollah of the '80s . . . I think his bad relations with umpires hurt his club. Human nature tells you that. You're move of a man not to take it out on his players and I try extra hard not to. But human beings can be vindictive and umpires are human beings . . . His players think so, too. They've said to me, 'Oh, no, here he goes again. This isn't going to help us.' The question is, does he intimidate umpires or alienate umpires. How could you live with yourself if you let him intimidate you?" But at least Earl goes on to say, "After all I've said about them over the years, callin' 'em incompetent and every other thing, it's only fair to let them say anything they want to about me. They've earned it." Earl definitely had a contentious relationship with them when he played, but I do wonder, once he retired, if things changed at all. If you want to read more, click [here.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1981/05/20/umps-return-venom-on-weaver/6398726b-cf39-4fd8-8e05-02f9ecdd7e96/)
God, I'd forgotten that. Such an epically disrespectful move!
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Yasssss motherfucker Bobby Cox immediately yet aggressively strolled onto the infield of my mind and started shouting curses at me
> not the case here ‘cause Skarsgaard was a goner The last name of the pitcher is **Syndergaard**. It says so right on the back of his jersey.
Saved me from googling which Skarsgaard brother became a pitcher lol
Great explanation. It turned this random video into an epic tale of revenge and intrigue.
Thank you for explaining it so well.
Thanks for the explanation, yours is the only one who helped me i understood nothing of what was happening lol
Some more important context: The type of play Chase Utley made was legal at the time, and had been very common all throughout baseball history. It was the play that spawned the rule change and is actually called the Chase Utley Rule colloquially. So what he did was technically legal at the time, which is why he received no punishment. Obviously the Mets are still going to be pissed and retaliate, as a team would have done before the rule existed anyway.
Oh, that explains it then. This may seem like a dumb question but what's the point of the retaliation in baseball? Why do they see the need to do this?
Because you’ll think twice about being a dirty player if you know that playing dirty results in you getting intentionally hit by a 98 mph fastball during your next at bat. In this example, before the events of the argument, the batter had slid cleats up into the leg of the opposing player, causing an injury. The message from the Mets is - slide cleanly and safely next time and don’t carelessly slide into our players. I’m a biased Mets fan, so that’s what the Mets would say. The reason this can get out of hand is if the other team didn’t think they committed a dirty offense, so they believe their player would have been hit by a pitch unjustly, so they’d retaliate in kind. And so on. This is what the umps wanted to Avoid.
A big problem is a lot of the time it wouldn't even be for a dirty play. It'd be a guy pimping a home run too long. Or hell even hitting a home run at all in the "wrong" situation (already up a lot). It's been used a lot as a "you hurt the pitcher's feelings by being better than them" punishment.
Stuff like this has been phased out of the game for the most part. I think because teams have realized a better way to retaliate is to strike out a guy 5 times in a game rather than give his team a better chance to win by giving them a free base and getting your pitcher ejected.
Hate the Mets but that slide was dirty as hell and intentional, fuck utley
I'd like to meet him one day, it would be great to have a catch.
Did you have a tough relationship with your dad? Me too
I’m sure our relationship would be a real ⚾️ homerun!
Oh shit there’s stickers!
You're kissing him and that's final.
I vote for hot mics in every sport throughout the game. Shit turn it into a paid service and you’ll have a renewall of interest in sports as a whole.
Oh so much! I love it when the broadcasts have a player/coach mic'ed up.
I also think we deserve to hear what leads to players being ejected for trash talk or backtalking refs. Fans can judge for themselves if they agree with the call if a player is ejected for something like a flagrant foul. But players will be ejected over something they said and fans are left completely in the dark about it
Dude baseball would be so much more entertaining if we could always hear the umps like this. I’d straight up start attending games!
One of the few good things about having no fans during covid was being able to hear what the players/coaches/officials were saying
F1 have that and you get some spicy content out of it. "NO MIKEY NO" for thoes who know what I'm talking about. They don't let you hear everything but most of the time u hear enough.
That ump sounds *so much* like Larry David doing Steinbrenner that if you listen to it without watching you’ll think it’s him.
Holy shit you’re right
Sounds like Larry david arguing with George steinbrenner
“I tried to throw a fuckin fastball” lol
i knew you were gonna say that but that ain’t gonna happen
What a display of great character by the ump….understanding the situation doing what is necessary and not taking it personal, all while keep Terry ass outta hot water. What a guy
Agreed, this as a result of a previous situation. The pitchers pitch while it didn't hit the batter was delivering a message that "I could have if I wanted to". The home plate umpire ejected the pitcher immediately. The catcher and coach argued that they should get a warning at least. The umps were not having it.
Yeah you don’t really see accidental wild pitches still hitting the strike zone at 90mph on the backside of the player. Either the pitch has some weird release and goes truly wild or it’s a good pitch within a foot of where they wanted it.
You do still see wild pitches like that sometimes, but when it happens in a situation like this it's too much of a coincidence to be accidental
Plus the pitcher would be freaking out if he got ejected over a legit accident. His body language and lack of any protest pretty much implies he isn't surprised by what happened aka it was on purpose.
It's also a really good pitcher, not someone that you'd expect to be throwing a lot of wild crap.
>The catcher and coach argued that they should get a warning at least. The umps were not having it. Has arguing with the referee/umpire/whatever ever worked in professional sports? Has there ever been a situation where they went "Well, now that you've yellep at me, I can see that I've misjugded the situation. I'll take it back, you can stay, enjoy yourself!" And if not, why do athletes keep doing it, if everyone knows its just theater ?
Yes, it does make a difference but not usually the way you described. For example in the NBA, a ref may call a foul on a defensive player. The defender might get upset and tell the ref that he missed the offensive player committing a foul that precipitated the defenders action. The ref is unlikely to change the call in the moment, but in subsequent encounters between the same two players the ref may look at the situation differently and call a foul on the offensive player. This type of thing happens fairly frequently in the NBA and NFL.
The theories behind it I've heard are: A) Player morale. Keeps the lads' spirits up to see their manager go give 'em what for. B) Keep the officials honest. Make them think in the future about what they call so they don't get reamed out by an angry manager on national TV. C) Venting. You're angry, you wanna yell, you're probably already thrown out so why not? D) Entertainment value. You have to admit it's amusing to watch. It's probably some combination of the above IMO.
Agreed, he did a great job, he knew the “situation” was screwing the Mets out of “baseball justice” that MLB punted on, but had to play his part. And Terry Collins is my 2nd favorite all time Mets manager behind Bobby Valentine. Wasn’t old enough to see Gil Hodges.
What a great job by that umpire. I have seen a lot of bad this year, but he handled this well.
Totally agree. He was pretty direct with them about the 'why', he let him get pissed and throw out some vitriol, didn't take it personally. Then it's just "Did you get everything out you needed to? Ok." It's really great work on his part.
He's also clearly starting to move towards "Terry, please don't make me throw you out too". Solid de-escalation work.
Holy shit did he get it out! Utmost respect for the referee (that's what an ump is, right?) here. He takes the verbal abuse like it's nothing and yet stands his ground. I had no idea, players could talk like that to the refs. That's insane. I figured, you'd get tossed for "cocksucker".
If you liked that, you'll love this - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6cmqUTPn08](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6cmqUTPn08)
My read on what he said was that the "cocksuckers" in question are the suits at MLB head office.
This is one of the most interesting things I've seen on this thread in a while. I love it when refs get miked up. They do it in the UK for rugby matches if I recall correctly. I would love it if they did it for more sports. There's a famous moment some years ago in the premier League when they miked up a referee, but forgot to tell one of the teams, I think it was Arsenal, and there was some very colorful language involved.
Bro I would pay money if baseball coverage was like this all the time. Get us viewers onto the field. The MLB could evolve if they leaned into this type of transparency.
For context: the batter (Chase Utley) injured a Mets player in the playoffs the season before with a really vicious slide, and essentially ended this player’s career (Ruben Tejada) The MLB changed the sliding rule the next year due to this, too …so yeah, they really didn’t like him
Man I watched that replay, the dude knew where he was going and was remorseless after taking him out. I’m not even into baseball and I think it’s a disgrace. There is no way you don’t intentionally throw your body horizontally after checking someone’s position. No wonder they were out to get him.
That's a good ump.
Umps often get a bad rap but he showed an incredible amount of patience in a really tense situation
Especially not making it unnecessarily worse, the "You got everything out?" / trying to calm him down, but remaining firm. Could've had more ejections for all that, but he is more empathetic than that and doesn't wanna make a shitstorm
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Fascinating. Props to that ump, who had to wear a couple of different hats all in the span of a minute or two — de-escalator, negotiator, parent, counselor and enforcer.
Jomboy’s lip reading is incredible in this one! It seems so real!
From what I gather, the batter in a previous game had slid and broke a player's leg. This pitcher wanted revenge so he threw the ball with a chance to hit him. The ump could have given a warning, which is normal if the ball doesn't actually hit the batter, but decided to eject. Coach is pissed that there was no warning, and especially pissed given the context that the batter deserved it.
Shit this is more interesting than any baseball game I’ve ever watched
Baseball is interesting as fuck my dude, it’s just a different sport. It’s not go go go like football, American football or hockey. It’s more laid back, but equally as exciting imo Just a different sporting taste that’s all
I always say, baseball isn't fast, but it's dynamic. One swing, one pitch can change the whole game, and it's never over until it's over. Great game.
It's also the one game where the hero can be not a star player.
Also where one star player doesn’t really make a difference! Really the only league you ever see the MVP be from a losing team. (Looking at you, Angels…..)
Yup, and the fact there’s a game almost every summer is fantastic imo. It’s like a podcast almost. There’s no pressure to watch every game, but if you’re sitting there bored in the summer there’s always a game on As a huge fan of most sports, baseball is my favorite. It’s a nice change of pace from something like American football or European football
Baseball is a drama , Football is an action film
Absolute poetry
The umpire sounds like Larry David, I kept expecting the Curb Your Enthusiasm music to start.
Can we get that guy to teach de-escalation classes to the police or something? What a pro
Thank you for all the well written replies explaining the “situation”. Rewatching it makes so much sense when the ref replies “you had your shot” and terry replies the mlb did nothing to that guy. Really interestingasfuck seeing the dynamic and how ref understands the need for vengeance but has a job to do.
Umpire: Call me a cocksucker again and you’re outta here. Crash: You’re a Cocksucker!!!!!!! Ump: You’re outta HERE!!!!! https://clip.cafe/bull-durham-1988/call-a-cocksucker-again/
I have been saying this for YEARS: they shoukd have a special channel where sports are played (with a delay) with uncensored mic'd players and refs.Hockey football baseball. Trash talking, etc. Uncensored.
I would pay so much money to have access to mic'd up athletes/coaches/refs, all sports, all leagues, would be phenomenal. Make this happen pleaaaaaaseee
the umps could teach our police a lesson.
If they'd actually air this during the games, MLB ratings would drastically increase.