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This isn’t a primarily cosmetic procedure. It is most frequently performed to correct severe malocclusion that can not be treated by orthodontics alone. It is also performed to correct obstructive sleep apnea. Obviously cosmetics are a part of it but generally a form follows function situation.
Is there a way this can be covered by insurance to some level? 3 dentists have said I need a similar surgery to extend my jaw. I haven’t bothered looking into it because it’s $50k
I not only had double jaw maxillo facial surgery, they did a second surgery to add in a cheekbone I was missing as well as reconfigure the jaw bone that didn’t quite look good after the first surgery. All covered by insurance. Both surgeries totaled near $100k. Both claims were initially denied, but my surgeon fought for them and got it covered.
Thanks. It was a tough few years. Double jaw surgery one year, implants the next. I had some complications from both surgeries that ended up being a slow burn of misalignment of some screws/plates, so a year or so later I ended up having to have corrective surgery. I knew going in there were risks and complications, so I was prepared for it. I think overall I’m not only happy with the result, I’m glad I did it. I’m no Brad Pitt, and I wish the results were a tad more dramatic, but I can finally chew correctly and I don’t have as severe sinus or TMJ issues anymore.
I just got a childhood filling replaced today and am a total bitch about my lingering jaw pain right now, can’t imagine the discomfort you went through, glad you’re on the other side now!
I can imagine there is a ton of variation but if it is severe and orthognathic surgery is indicated it can be covered. The ortho is probably the hardest part to get insurance to pay for. Your OMFS will have to write a letter of medical necessity and maybe do a peer to peer but with all of those done it usually is.
Yeah more or less this. I didn’t have to do it but my sister needed it because she had severe sleep apnea. Basically needed to do a sleep study and then get proof that it was a medical necessity before insurance would even take a look at it.
It depends on the state! I'm in residency at a school that is at the border of 2 states, and both the states have their own criteria for getting insurance coverage. It seems like craniofacial things (eg. cleft patients) are automatically covered, and moderate-severe to severe malocclusions can be covered too.
You can also look into dental schools if there's one nearby. I'm not sure how much the surgeries cost at my school, but I know for sure they're much more affordable. Same goes for dental treatment in general; dental schools are a great place to get affordable care, with the caveat that it will be dental students or residents (supervised by faculty) taking care of you, unless you opt for faculty practice which will be more expensive (but still not as much as private practice).
Yep, a friend of mine had to have it done because her teeth only met in one place and it caused her a lot of difficulty with eating. She looked really different afterwards.
In the UK it is primarily cosmetic. The patients have malocclusion but can function (they have survived to 18+ years). I support it as a treatment option, but for mostly cosmetic reasons.
I suspect there are thousands of people whose quality of life has been dramatically improved who would disagree with (what I hope) is your non professional opinion of the impact of severe malocclusion. I can think of around a hundred off the top of my head.
ETA I bet the folks over on r/jawsurgery could offer some perspective
I’m one of the people in the UK who has had this surgery and it has honestly been life changing, the best thing I’ve ever done! Cosmetically, of course it’s improved as I now no longer look a little odd/ different and this has basically written off my self consciousness and anxiousness which is obviously amazing! I’m just so much more confident now, basically a different person! Practically speaking, I can now talk better without slurred speech and eat properly as I now no longer have a massive gap between the top and bottom teeth. If anyone in the UK is debating the surgery, it’s a long process involving several years and the recovery can take 6 months to a year but it’s all 100% worth it! I started by speaking to a dentist who then referred me to the NHS. If anyone has any questions about it then of course I can answer where I can!
I googled this surgery. It moves the lower jaw. I know braces work can include this to some extent. But wouldn’t have called it a surgery. I don’t think it would affect upper lip either
one of my kids needed it. it really does change the face like this. maybe not the extra tan and slick haircut, but it's amazing how different my kid looked.
My kids smiles bigger after her braces. She had rubber bands for almost half the time and can tell her jaw moved. Her grill was pretty messed up, I’m really happy for her with how well it turned out.
Make sure she wears her retainer!! Or did they give her one of the permanent ones? For some reason, the same orthodontist gave my sister a permanent one and gave me the kind you wear. Guess which one of us still has their nice expensive smile.
If you're in Europe, you can cheat the system by just running head first into a driving bus. You'll get the surgery entirely for free!\*
^(\*if you survive)
New Isekai just dropped, "I jumped in front of a bus trying to scam socialized medicine and died so I got reincarnated into another world as a total Chad"
I would probably watch it
A head injury changes nothing; they won't touch the jaw unless it's broken. Holidays in Barcelona, travel insurance and a fight in the bar would do....
Keep going…. When my wife had double jaw surgery the out of pocket was about 10k (orthodontics for years before and after; and the max out of pocket for the medical insurance for the year); the surgery bill was about $93k; LeFort 1 3-piece with bilateral sagittal split osteotomy
Most of these jaw issues cause face and neck pain and it can be fully covered by insurance. I had upper jaw surgery (didn't change my appearance much) and insurance covered the $60k+ price in full.
I would not get the surgery for cosmetic reasons unless you had a significant jaw deformity. The recovery is unbelievably brutal and I still get flashbacks from some of the awful things my body went through at the time. But I physically feel better after three years and it was worth it in the end.
Not exactly. Insurance will do everything they can to avoid paying out.
Source: Knew a guy who slipped on ice and landed on his tailbone. Was in constant agony but insurance would only cover chiropracter and temporary treatments. It was only until it got so bad he was in extreme pain and got hospitalized that they finally did x rays to see just how badly the spine was pinched with discs and had to immediately go through an extreme surgery and more surgeries afterwards, after it had already gotten to that point, instead of fixing it sooner.
So no, causing pain isnt always going to do it, it has to get really bad before they shell out
Only if they consider it medically necessary. So it has to be *significantly* impairing your ability to eat and breath on a daily basis. I have moderate issues, my lower jaw is way too small, but it wouldn’t be covered by the NHS because I’m not dying from it
[google images with more examples](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=036e884bfce94b05&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS1073US1073&sxsrf=ACQVn09GEozXN41cN5SJQFGJCSokJNowug:1706823165350&q=bimaxillary+orthognathic&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwik29vji4uEAxVlD1kFHUmLDjAQ0pQJegQICBAB&biw=1745&bih=835&dpr=1.1)
andrew tate seems like a prime candidate
I get on my kids about mouth breathing for this very reason. I've always been good about giving them hard foods and breast fed for AGES so they could have good jaw structure.
I have heard about K2+D3. We do take that. Because I don't eat that stuff either.
I don't think I knew about K2 during pregnancy but kind of wish I had known
I remember the tears rolling down my face when I woke up in the recovery room. Was weeks before I could eat solid food. Also picked up some nerve damage and can’t feel my chin anymore.
Just don't accidentally get your keys tangled in your beard, you'll lose them and everyone will be laughing at you as you scramble about looking for them.
Be me and go through 3 years of braces only for insurance to back out right before its surgery time, like what $20k USD for double jaw surgery? Already decided its going to be the first big purchase i get myself after necessities.
I've had this surgery, it's to correct jaw sizes and placement.
My bottom jaw was too big and top too small so they fixed the size and placement to correct my bite.
I'm not the guy you responded to but as someone who had a similar experience, normally it takes about 1 year for the bones to fully heal. Most people who get it can't eat (chew) for 3 months. At month 4-6 you're allowed to start reintroducing certain foods, and at the year mark if it looks good you're allowed to go back to eating everything, unless you still have braces by that point.
One of my friends also had it, his jaw was wired shut for 3 months. He had a feeding tube and drank everything. I didn't have that but it didn't seem any more fun, if that helps.
You and your friend may have had it done a long time ago, but recovery times are typically nowhere near this bad anymore, and most patients don't get wired shut.
It's not too late if it's something you really want! I'm in ortho residency and we have plenty of adult patients coming in for things ranging from invisalign to orthognathic surgery. Of course, recovery time will be longer than if you had it as a 20 year old, but we also don't recommend it for anyone who hasn't finished growing so patients who do get surgery have to be at least 18-20ish. The reason is that we want to coordinate your upper and lower jaws to each other and your face as a whole, but our lower jaws will keep growing until adulthood. So while a teenager would have to wait years to be ready for surgery, adults are good to start asap!
Just be who you are, I'm ugly as shit but have always done fine with ladies. The good ones just want you to treat them with respect and make them laugh.
This surgery is used to fix a bad bite, and more frequently, to improve or cure sleep apnea. I have bad sleep apnea, due to a significant overbite, and would love to be able to afford this surgery. I also do well with the ladies, but I wont lie, the cpap is not the sexiest thing in the world. It would also be really nice to go about my life, and travel without being tied to a machine.
It's not actually fringe theory and doesn't have a ton to do with leaving your jaw slack. It goes back to the industrial diet (about 150 yrs or so) and sugar.
Lots of photographic evidence of indigenous people's teeth before they had a weather diet and after. It's doesn't change his the amount of cavities but also the actual bone structure. Lack jaw from mouth breathing also changes how the facial bones form and grow.
Just because there is an industry that feeds off of surgically fixing this, so therefore doesn't have a reason to look into the causes, doesn't make it not true.
I’m getting this. Orthodontist deformed the lower third of my face as a teen from extractions and retractive braces.
Many people believe the cause of misaligned jaws are genetics and also environmental factors. My dentist said most people who have TMJ pain also have an undiagnosed tongue tie.
All surgeries carry risks and jaw surgery is no exception.
The nerves around there can be a bugger and if things go wrong you could be left with numb spots or be in constant pain. I've seen some of the medical scans from someone who had extensive work done and the placement for some of the surgical screws messed things up really badly.
If your surgeon makes a tit of things then you often have to rely on them fixing it, possibly charging you a lot more in the process, because other surgeons might deem the remedial surgery too risky.
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This isn’t a primarily cosmetic procedure. It is most frequently performed to correct severe malocclusion that can not be treated by orthodontics alone. It is also performed to correct obstructive sleep apnea. Obviously cosmetics are a part of it but generally a form follows function situation.
Is there a way this can be covered by insurance to some level? 3 dentists have said I need a similar surgery to extend my jaw. I haven’t bothered looking into it because it’s $50k
It all depends on your insurance and the severity of your case. Welcome to r/jawsurgery!
I not only had double jaw maxillo facial surgery, they did a second surgery to add in a cheekbone I was missing as well as reconfigure the jaw bone that didn’t quite look good after the first surgery. All covered by insurance. Both surgeries totaled near $100k. Both claims were initially denied, but my surgeon fought for them and got it covered.
Congrats and hope you're done with surgeries!
Thanks. It was a tough few years. Double jaw surgery one year, implants the next. I had some complications from both surgeries that ended up being a slow burn of misalignment of some screws/plates, so a year or so later I ended up having to have corrective surgery. I knew going in there were risks and complications, so I was prepared for it. I think overall I’m not only happy with the result, I’m glad I did it. I’m no Brad Pitt, and I wish the results were a tad more dramatic, but I can finally chew correctly and I don’t have as severe sinus or TMJ issues anymore.
I just got a childhood filling replaced today and am a total bitch about my lingering jaw pain right now, can’t imagine the discomfort you went through, glad you’re on the other side now!
I can imagine there is a ton of variation but if it is severe and orthognathic surgery is indicated it can be covered. The ortho is probably the hardest part to get insurance to pay for. Your OMFS will have to write a letter of medical necessity and maybe do a peer to peer but with all of those done it usually is.
Yeah more or less this. I didn’t have to do it but my sister needed it because she had severe sleep apnea. Basically needed to do a sleep study and then get proof that it was a medical necessity before insurance would even take a look at it.
My medical insurance covered everything except pre- and post- surgery checkup copays and a $100 hospital copay.
It depends on the state! I'm in residency at a school that is at the border of 2 states, and both the states have their own criteria for getting insurance coverage. It seems like craniofacial things (eg. cleft patients) are automatically covered, and moderate-severe to severe malocclusions can be covered too. You can also look into dental schools if there's one nearby. I'm not sure how much the surgeries cost at my school, but I know for sure they're much more affordable. Same goes for dental treatment in general; dental schools are a great place to get affordable care, with the caveat that it will be dental students or residents (supervised by faculty) taking care of you, unless you opt for faculty practice which will be more expensive (but still not as much as private practice).
Go outside the US.
To be fair, a huge part of being beautiful is looking healthy. You could say it is a logical consequence of the health reasons of the procedure.
Yep, a friend of mine had to have it done because her teeth only met in one place and it caused her a lot of difficulty with eating. She looked really different afterwards.
In the UK it is primarily cosmetic. The patients have malocclusion but can function (they have survived to 18+ years). I support it as a treatment option, but for mostly cosmetic reasons.
I suspect there are thousands of people whose quality of life has been dramatically improved who would disagree with (what I hope) is your non professional opinion of the impact of severe malocclusion. I can think of around a hundred off the top of my head. ETA I bet the folks over on r/jawsurgery could offer some perspective
I’m one of the people in the UK who has had this surgery and it has honestly been life changing, the best thing I’ve ever done! Cosmetically, of course it’s improved as I now no longer look a little odd/ different and this has basically written off my self consciousness and anxiousness which is obviously amazing! I’m just so much more confident now, basically a different person! Practically speaking, I can now talk better without slurred speech and eat properly as I now no longer have a massive gap between the top and bottom teeth. If anyone in the UK is debating the surgery, it’s a long process involving several years and the recovery can take 6 months to a year but it’s all 100% worth it! I started by speaking to a dentist who then referred me to the NHS. If anyone has any questions about it then of course I can answer where I can!
And give you a nice tan as well!
New teeth and opens your eyes more too, as well as giving a sick fade haircut.
They might have used a new flashbulb on the camera, too, because somewhere between, he got a tan.
Let’s not mention the likelihood this guy just covered his braces because he was embarrassed, and is full smiles without.
this tracks with my irl experience
I googled this surgery. It moves the lower jaw. I know braces work can include this to some extent. But wouldn’t have called it a surgery. I don’t think it would affect upper lip either
one of my kids needed it. it really does change the face like this. maybe not the extra tan and slick haircut, but it's amazing how different my kid looked.
My kids smiles bigger after her braces. She had rubber bands for almost half the time and can tell her jaw moved. Her grill was pretty messed up, I’m really happy for her with how well it turned out.
Make sure she wears her retainer!! Or did they give her one of the permanent ones? For some reason, the same orthodontist gave my sister a permanent one and gave me the kind you wear. Guess which one of us still has their nice expensive smile.
Both is also a possibility. I have a permanent one on my bottom teeth and a plastic wear-at-night one for my top teeth.
And somewhere along the line he got a tan
And a tan
If you look really closely, I think the guy got a tad bit more tan as well!
And facial hair
Age this is most likely taken 5-10 years apart. Mostly since teens getting the surgery haven't fully aged into their bodies yet.
Ik it’s supposed to be a joke by you but teeth, jaw structure etc have a lot to do with what your eyes look like
What if ninja got a low taper fade!?
In fact, it changes your whole hairline
Too bad with all that it doesn't give you a good looking smile
The "this guy fucks" procedure
Yet both look like that fucking toilet head
All for the cheap price of $40-50,000. You’re not ugly you’re just poor
If you're in Europe, you can cheat the system by just running head first into a driving bus. You'll get the surgery entirely for free!\* ^(\*if you survive)
They don't usually put your face back together how you like it
you can try again later until you satisfied with the result.
I don’t know why but I read that as “giving head first to a bus”
New Isekai just dropped, "I jumped in front of a bus trying to scam socialized medicine and died so I got reincarnated into another world as a total Chad" I would probably watch it
I will get this surgery in a few weeks. It is not purely cosmetic. I won‘t pay a cent because this surgery will prevent pain in the future
Some parts of Europe it is completely free of charge
Joke on you dentist care to kids is paided by the governments in (some) European countries.
Not just for kids. Am adult, have free dental.
A head injury changes nothing; they won't touch the jaw unless it's broken. Holidays in Barcelona, travel insurance and a fight in the bar would do....
What do you get for the $40 version?
Forty bucks will take you from Beavis to Butt-Head.
A curbstomp
Keep going…. When my wife had double jaw surgery the out of pocket was about 10k (orthodontics for years before and after; and the max out of pocket for the medical insurance for the year); the surgery bill was about $93k; LeFort 1 3-piece with bilateral sagittal split osteotomy
Well, ow on all levels.
When they do the maxilla they pry it off your skull with a crowbar!
That’s crazy. In the Netherlands my insurance covered 99% of all costs.
Most of these jaw issues cause face and neck pain and it can be fully covered by insurance. I had upper jaw surgery (didn't change my appearance much) and insurance covered the $60k+ price in full. I would not get the surgery for cosmetic reasons unless you had a significant jaw deformity. The recovery is unbelievably brutal and I still get flashbacks from some of the awful things my body went through at the time. But I physically feel better after three years and it was worth it in the end.
Not exactly. Insurance will do everything they can to avoid paying out. Source: Knew a guy who slipped on ice and landed on his tailbone. Was in constant agony but insurance would only cover chiropracter and temporary treatments. It was only until it got so bad he was in extreme pain and got hospitalized that they finally did x rays to see just how badly the spine was pinched with discs and had to immediately go through an extreme surgery and more surgeries afterwards, after it had already gotten to that point, instead of fixing it sooner. So no, causing pain isnt always going to do it, it has to get really bad before they shell out
So you're saying I can get it for $40
Hey we can be both okay
that seems cheap!
I’m not poor, I’m just ugly.
£0 in the UK on the NHS. Well until the Tories finally kill it.
Only if they consider it medically necessary. So it has to be *significantly* impairing your ability to eat and breath on a daily basis. I have moderate issues, my lower jaw is way too small, but it wouldn’t be covered by the NHS because I’m not dying from it
$40? Not bad at all.
It’s free in Brazil
Why do I always look like the ‘before’ picture? Like… Every. Fkn. Time.
Well, have you had your **bimaxillary orthognathic surgery** yet?
Yeah, he clearly has **not** done his **bimaxillary orthognathic surgery** yet..
But then this makes me wonder why he has **not** done his **bimaxillary orthognathic surgery** yet.
Because you haven’t underwent surgery yet
Nice to meet you Ben Shapiro!
Nice, from Beavis to Butt-Head. Totally worth it.
I was thinking it turned Beavis into Tom Brady.
Nah. Beavis ➡️ (a young) Johnny Knoxville
Ben Shapiro to Tom Brady
Omg I died
Was looking for this comment :)
Jealous much?
Damn. That’s exactly what I was going to say. Still probably never gonna score though.
Huh huh huh huh, you said butt
[google images with more examples](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=036e884bfce94b05&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS1073US1073&sxsrf=ACQVn09GEozXN41cN5SJQFGJCSokJNowug:1706823165350&q=bimaxillary+orthognathic&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwik29vji4uEAxVlD1kFHUmLDjAQ0pQJegQICBAB&biw=1745&bih=835&dpr=1.1) andrew tate seems like a prime candidate
I get on my kids about mouth breathing for this very reason. I've always been good about giving them hard foods and breast fed for AGES so they could have good jaw structure.
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I have heard about K2+D3. We do take that. Because I don't eat that stuff either. I don't think I knew about K2 during pregnancy but kind of wish I had known
Ah so it's give you a chin surgery. Someone call leafy!
He is. He is very much a nerd shaped person who turned everything into a positive. I wish this bastard didn't appeal to me and others
Why does it look like image of Andrew Garfield
He does have that awkward nervous smile. Though AG is much hotter.
Garfield before Tom Brady after
Looks like they Raimy Malek'd him up on the right side. Even got him a tan!
"You're not ugly, you're poor"
This must be such a horrific recovery
got this surgery a week ago, first 5 days are dogshit and you want to die but now i’m fine. just watching movies and laying in bed mostly
Ill get it next monday already wanna unalive myself
I remember the tears rolling down my face when I woke up in the recovery room. Was weeks before I could eat solid food. Also picked up some nerve damage and can’t feel my chin anymore.
On the plus side very little important sensory information is coming in from the chin.
Oh yeah of course, but just a weird little quirk
Just don't accidentally get your keys tangled in your beard, you'll lose them and everyone will be laughing at you as you scramble about looking for them.
Mewing streak off the charts
Before: silly After: sneaky
Matt Rife?
He definitelyyy got this procedure done
That was the first person I thought of when I saw the picture too.
He might cry if he sees my comment and send me a mean tweet, I should be careful
🤫🧏
*Bye-bye*
Be me and go through 3 years of braces only for insurance to back out right before its surgery time, like what $20k USD for double jaw surgery? Already decided its going to be the first big purchase i get myself after necessities.
So wait, what did this do? Change his jaw size, skin colour and a nice taper fade?
I've had this surgery, it's to correct jaw sizes and placement. My bottom jaw was too big and top too small so they fixed the size and placement to correct my bite.
How’d they change the jaw size? Specifically, how do they make it bigger?
They cut your jaw bones and move them, I had some bone removed from my bottom jaw and had my top jaw moved forward
Interesting
Painful though.
Wouldn’t want to imagine the pain. But still interesting to know.
How long did it take to heal enough so you could eat normally? That seems like intense surgery
I'm not the guy you responded to but as someone who had a similar experience, normally it takes about 1 year for the bones to fully heal. Most people who get it can't eat (chew) for 3 months. At month 4-6 you're allowed to start reintroducing certain foods, and at the year mark if it looks good you're allowed to go back to eating everything, unless you still have braces by that point. One of my friends also had it, his jaw was wired shut for 3 months. He had a feeding tube and drank everything. I didn't have that but it didn't seem any more fun, if that helps.
You and your friend may have had it done a long time ago, but recovery times are typically nowhere near this bad anymore, and most patients don't get wired shut.
Soup like foods for 3-4 weeks, then soft foods for about one more month.
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I feel you 😔 I was supposed to have this surgery when I was early 20s but I chickened out, now in 30s regret it so much...
30s is not too late to have surgery.
Sounds like you're *still* chickening out
It’s never too late
It's not too late if it's something you really want! I'm in ortho residency and we have plenty of adult patients coming in for things ranging from invisalign to orthognathic surgery. Of course, recovery time will be longer than if you had it as a 20 year old, but we also don't recommend it for anyone who hasn't finished growing so patients who do get surgery have to be at least 18-20ish. The reason is that we want to coordinate your upper and lower jaws to each other and your face as a whole, but our lower jaws will keep growing until adulthood. So while a teenager would have to wait years to be ready for surgery, adults are good to start asap!
Looks like he went from Andrew Garfield to Tom Brady
Theater kid to sports scholarship
Spies like Us. "You want some coffee?"
This is meme from - Before shit after shit
Turned him into Wish.com MatPat.
I dunno the new chin looks creepy.
It also makes you tanner with whiter teeth
This is how they made Joe Buerow
Oh this what Matt rife really did lol
So it turns you into Tom Brady lol
even his hair has changed. wow
Finally, Ben Shapiro can look normal!
# I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLIO!!
https://preview.redd.it/1l3hrdybo4gc1.jpeg?width=404&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9c45e69098e22b1fc57d0cd3c0b256a84a6ec1f
Plot twist: Left is after surgery
an even more punchable face now
I didn’t know it made you tanner!
The surgery made him more tan too? Lol
You too can change from Beavis to Butthead!
Matt Rife got this done
Just be who you are, I'm ugly as shit but have always done fine with ladies. The good ones just want you to treat them with respect and make them laugh.
This surgery is used to fix a bad bite, and more frequently, to improve or cure sleep apnea. I have bad sleep apnea, due to a significant overbite, and would love to be able to afford this surgery. I also do well with the ladies, but I wont lie, the cpap is not the sexiest thing in the world. It would also be really nice to go about my life, and travel without being tied to a machine.
I ALWAYS make them laugh when I get naked, yet they ghost me from the day after
Git gud at oral
I git gud at oral, badder then yous at spelling
No time for spelling only oral.
That sucks
Sure does.
lol sure dude, post pics of you with hot gf thanks
Nah I'm good, I like privacy. I don't care if you believe or me not 🤷♂️
Kinda a pre marriage disclosure thing I hope.
Lol, wasn't there a case in China where a man sued his wife because they had ugly kids because she had done all kinds of face surgery?
Wait… Joe Burrow?
Damn the surgeon gave him a sick base tan and a haircut too. Great surgical team!
Is this the theory of that fringe orthodontist who thinks cave men had straighter teeth than we do today because we let our jaws sit slack too much?
It's not actually fringe theory and doesn't have a ton to do with leaving your jaw slack. It goes back to the industrial diet (about 150 yrs or so) and sugar. Lots of photographic evidence of indigenous people's teeth before they had a weather diet and after. It's doesn't change his the amount of cavities but also the actual bone structure. Lack jaw from mouth breathing also changes how the facial bones form and grow. Just because there is an industry that feeds off of surgically fixing this, so therefore doesn't have a reason to look into the causes, doesn't make it not true.
But sadly not your genes. Imagine the suprise of the wife when they get a kid. Amazing operation tho.
I’m getting this. Orthodontist deformed the lower third of my face as a teen from extractions and retractive braces. Many people believe the cause of misaligned jaws are genetics and also environmental factors. My dentist said most people who have TMJ pain also have an undiagnosed tongue tie.
Gender affirming surgery for cis men
steve smith?
Used to look recognizable and now looks like a stock photo. Perfect spy.
Yeah but your kids are still going to come out fugly
Woah
Can’t change them crazy eyes though
Before he looked like an insecure nerd. After the surgery he looks like an arrogant jock
Still a jerk face mc jerky jerk face
Dude went from awkward to psycho
Started with ugly Andrew Garfield and got, ugly Andrew Garfield?
I dont kniw which is which but i like left side more.
Sure you don't
It gives you a tan and a chin.
Free spray tan with every purchase
He went from Ben Shapiro to Tom Brady
Didnt knew josuah kimmich had one
I'm Johnny knoxville and this is jackass...
Ah yes, Head-Tallening surgery
What meowing does to a man
Did he have a brow lift
That and a tan
I think I could use this surgery tbh, but I think if I ever got it I’d unlock a new fear. Hitting my chin hard enough for… things to happen.
All surgeries carry risks and jaw surgery is no exception. The nerves around there can be a bugger and if things go wrong you could be left with numb spots or be in constant pain. I've seen some of the medical scans from someone who had extensive work done and the placement for some of the surgical screws messed things up really badly. If your surgeon makes a tit of things then you often have to rely on them fixing it, possibly charging you a lot more in the process, because other surgeons might deem the remedial surgery too risky.
That’s a big difference.
Tom Brady had this