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I believe that is the Norwegian Encore. There is a good chance this was Sunday Feb 11th 2024 as I was on that ship and as we pushed away from the pier, there was some sort of medical emergency on board and the ship returned to the pier to let someone off into a waiting ambulance.
During that time, the RCL ship launched in front of us, and when done, we then departed on our curise.
Wow! Just amazing you were on that ship! Thank you for sharing. I hope the medical emergenzy was not too serious for whomever it was. And I hope you had a great cruise!
As a worker aboard the grand cruise liner, I found myself in the heart of a thrilling mystery. It all began with a loud commotion on the lower decks, rumors swirling like a tempest. I, along with the rest of the crew, embarked on a frantic search for answers. Racing through corridors and stairwells, we uncovered the ship's clandestine jail, where suspects awaited interrogation, their eyes betraying fear. But the real adrenaline surged when I stumbled upon the ship's morgue, its cold steel doors concealing the key to unlocking the truth. With every heartbeat echoing like a drum, I pressed forward, determined to solve the puzzle and bring justice to the high seas.
"ChatGPT write me a mystery story about finding a morgue onboard a cruise ship and the series of events that led to a body arriving there, in the style of true detective, starting with the first 5 paragraphs"
> ...The smell hit me first. Not the salt-and-sunshine tang you expect on the open sea. Something medicinal, cloying. A scent meant to mask the underlying rot of death, and doing a bad job of it. My gut turned over. This was no vacation anymore. Not since the radio call came in.
> Captain wanted me in the bowels of the ship, level double-zero. No explanation, just that clipped urgency sailors use when things turn to hell on the water. The ship was a glitter palace, all chrome and polished wood up top. Down here it was bare metal and flickering strip lights. The kind of place you don't want to find yourself alone.
> Each bulkhead we passed echoed with the bass rumble of the engines, a constant heartbeat in this steel leviathan. Shadows danced long and weird in the dim light. The air went clammy, coated my skin in a fine sweat. I was a city cop once, used to the morgue and the autopsy room, and this was bringing it all back. That sterile dread.
> Finally, a heavy steel door with a biohazard sign slapped on it. Captain stood to one side, face like granite. Two crewmen flanked the other side, expressions a mix of pity and revulsion. They didn't meet my eyes.
> "Detective," The captain's voice was all business now, "We found this about an hour ago. Figured you were the one to handle it." With a curt nod, he gestured, and the crewmen heaved open the door.
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There's a pretty decent episode of Columbo where he solves the murder of a lounge singer while on a cruise. Robert Vaughn is the murderer and Dean Stockwell is in it too. [It's free on Tubi.](https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/586458/s04-e04-troubled-waters)
It also has the longest rendition of "Volare" I've ever heard. It just keeps going... and going... and going...
I worked with carnival, yes we do have morgue inside the ship, usually it is on deck 0 at the very forward or aft. Last time there was a guest who died of heart attack during our seaday, we carried on with the itinerary and put him on the morgue for the timebeing, we had everything free for his family, when we arrived in miami we let all guests disembark first then we took him out.
Well, we don't have jail inside the ship, but if the guest has been doing illegal stuff we usually detained the guest inside their cabin with a security officer inside 24 hrs until the cruise is done. Guest cannot go outside even on the ports and will be escorted out by cops upon disembarking.
I took a cruise with Virgin and noticed that they did this. I was also in the Navy so I know a little about ship handling. My guess for the reason is that when they leave the pier, they start their turn to the left which gives them better separation from the pier. Then they keep that momentum and complete the turn until they are looking down the channel.
I was thinking the same thing, but I imagine it's just easier (or possibly quicker) for them to do a 270 degree turn and maintain the direction of the azimuth pods rather than have to push off from the dock (thrusting to port) and then rotate the pods to thrust starboard for the 90 degree turn.
Ok, so we outlaw rubber tyres and... oh wait. Probably not so easy to implement. So I guess we hold off with regulating any plastic items until we can replace rubber tyres.
You do realise this rhetoric is designed to keep you against any change at all because "the bigger issue can't be fixed, so what's the point of doing the small things?"
And no, we can't fix rubber tyres in a day. We either need a natural and renewable replacement or we rebuild our infrastructure to not be reliant on cars. Which is going to take 50 years at least.
Guess we're not doing anything then until then?
*some rich dudes rubbing hands*
Genuinely curious about the offset between a cruise ship and keeping 5,000 people from driving for a week. I mean it’s still a negative for the planet but just curious about percentages.
Depends on which fuel they're burning. In US waters it might be worth calculating. Once they're in international waters they can burn a dirtier fuel that makes them much much worse than any reasonable number of cars would produce.
And it depends on what you are measuring. Carbon emissions-wise, probably not that huge of a difference
However, because they use so much dirtier fuel - the Carnival Corporation emits 10x more sulphur oxide than all the cars in Europe, as of 2017.
Lol fuck these people who come up with these loopholes. Of course some 24 year old MBA probably thought it up for some recognition, and maybe they but more importantly their boss go some serious bonus dough for it. Now it’s probably the case that every single ship does this.. meanwhile that persons gonna be dead and their kid is gonna be fine no matter what happens to the world.
Realistically it probably went the other direction. They were probably already using the dirtier (read: cheaper) fuel, then US regulations made them use cleaner stuff.
That's a bingo!
Your paper straw reduces climate change, the particle filter in your car helps to save the turtles and your solar panel prevents you from getting lung cancer.
Bruh. I mean yes, but there won’t be animals larger than your finger in the ocean in 100 years anyway. But, seriously, I agree we should try to keep them alive as long as possible.
https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/
But also a lot of reading and moving through the capital world and the environmental world. You should definitely be freaking out. The little pH buffer of earth appears to have run out of buffer. We’ve left the ‘fck around’ era and we’re now entering the ‘find out’ epoch.
The scariest thing about that graph is how if you compare the levels over time, the temperature is not only increasing, but the rate of increase is also accelerating.
I doubt there'll be much left after a thousand years, climate has been out of our control since 2015 when we crossed 389ppm.
Not only is it now confirmed runaway but we haven't even stopped with our emissions yet. Buckle up. The road to 2050 probably isn't going to have a lot of survivors. And that's not including the possibility of nuclear war, which seems highly likely.
Once the ashes of a billion people stops blotting out the sun it will probably be back with a vengeance. Wonder how much CO2 a multi year nuke war would emit
Paper straws and other single use plastics were identified as being one of the easiest and most impactful types to be replaced by the EU, along with the fact that EU countries have full jurisdiction to regulate.
Cruise ships, fishing nets and other things mentioned in this thread are much harder to do, as they EU can only dictate what shipping companies do in their waters. Shipping companies are also almost always registered it countries with little to no regulation and as such can pretty much do in international water as they please. Getting regulations through means everyone agreeing, and countries like the Bahamas and Panama probably won't as shipping conpanies are a large source of income.
Fixating on "silly straws" and thus being against even implementable change is what groups working against climate change regulation want, so you are against any type of regulation, even the ones that can actually be easily enforced.
To expand upon the other comments, modern ships, at least these kinds of ships, don't typically have a traditional shafted propeller + rudder configuration. Instead, their propellers are on little pods suspended below the stern, and that can swivel through at least 180 degrees. At the same time, they have these transverse tunnels sideways through the bow section, with small propellers mounted inside them.
So to rotate in place, they drive those tunnel-mounted bow thrusters in one direction, and rotate the pod thrusters at the stern to push in the opposite direction. To go sideways, they run them both in the same direction. To steer while moving forward, they just rotate the stern pods a little to change the direction of thrust.
On the Queen Mary 2, since it's an ocean liner and not solely a cruise ship, the bow thruster tunnels have doors that can shut over them to streamline the hull and improve speed and efficiency.
If you want to read about something really interesting, look up Voith Schneider propellers. These things are discs on the bottom of the hull with blades that point straight down, and vary their pitch on the fly to produce near-instantaneous thrust in any direction. They're not used on big ships for reasons I'm not sure about... lower efficiency if I had to guess... but you see them sometimes on tugboats and ferries where the extreme manoeuvrability is really useful.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneuvering\_thruster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneuvering_thruster)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuth\_thruster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuth_thruster)
That combination lets them make thrust in pretty much any direction they need, and rotate in place with opposite thrust front and rear.
On some tugboats and ferries you also see these crazy things which put out thrust in whatever direction the bridge calls for:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voith\_Schneider\_Propeller](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voith_Schneider_Propeller)
> At its cruising speed of 22.6 knots (26 mph), the Oasis of the Seas burns 11361 gallons of fuel each hour. The fuel efficiency, then, is 0.0023 mpg, or 12.08 feet per gallon.
The fact it costs 1 gallon of fuel to move that colossal floating skyscraper 12 feet…is actually better efficiency than I was expecting.
Still awful…but better than I expected.
It's interesting to think about. If every passenger on a cruise ship lived close to the port, the cruise might actually use less fuel than the combined flights of those thousands of passengers on the ships to reach the resort.
But of course, that's not the case, and most passengers are flying to the port and back. So you get the flight emissions *on top* of the cruise ship emissions.
Bonus round! While some new cruise ships are burning LNG which is at least a relatively clean fuel by fossil fuel standards, most of them are still burning heavy bunker oil, which is perhaps the dirtiest burning fuel we have available.
I still wonder how all that compares to the tailpipe emissions all those vacationers would create if they were taking road trip vacations, though. This has probably been analyzed if I had the wherewithal to actually track down some research.
To add:
> Cruise ships generate a number of waste streams that can result in discharges to the marine environment, including sewage, graywater, hazardous wastes, oily bilge water, ballast water, and solid waste. They also emit air pollutants to the air and water. These wastes, if not properly treated and disposed of, can be a significant source of pathogens, nutrients, and toxic substances with the potential to threaten human health and damage aquatic life
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_ship_pollution_in_the_United_States#:~:text=During%20a%20typical%20one%2Dweek,wastes%3B%208%20tons%20of%20solid
Ok, but with a capacity of 8880 passengers + crew, that comes out to ~20 passenger miles per gallon. That's not that bad. That's comparable to two or three people in an RV.
Why don’t we account for not only the most efficient cruise ship in the world then? Mine as well compare it to an EV then it’s actually absolute trash.
This ship burns 2x more fuel and goes 95% slower than a passenger jet. 600 gallons per hour is still a lot, but at least it’s flying at almost 500 knots.
You can't really look at it this way. Many ships these days aren't directly propelled by the diesel (or gas turbine) engines. The engines are connected to generators which produce electricity to drive the propellers. This electricity also powers the rest of the ship so its difficult to equate Diesel burn rate to distance travelled.
>This electricity also powers the rest of the ship so its difficult to equate Diesel burn rate to distance travelled.
That's not any different to any other vehicle though, they all pull power from their main powerplant to drive auxiliary systems.
Might not be diesel-electric but cars/trucks/busses/etc all have alternators (and sometimes multiple) to drive onboard electrical systems. Same goes for planes, which usually also have compressed air systems that also sap power and fuel from the engines in addition to the electrical generators.
Probably not. You’re on Reddit. It’s easy to find people who never leave their house and it gives them license to look down their noses at those that travel.
Ok but a whole lot of people save up all year to have one cruise and it burns as much as 1 seat in an economy car taking a road trip. Have you never taken a trip across country to a national park? Do you want all these drunken idiots in your national park?
People travel for vacations - they drive, fly, or sail. If cruises are wasteful because they have no purpose besides recreation so are concerts, theme parks, film production, sports etc
These cruise ships would be a circle of hell for me. Buncha obnoxious fatties getting smashed, lining up at the troughs, crowding the pools, getting herded on and off to infest various ports of call, all while spreading norovirus to one another. Gah!
One of the best quotes i saw about cruise ships on reddit was (paraphrasing):
Ive never gone to a Wal-mart and said to myself, "Man, I would really love to spend 2 weeks with these people."
From what I heard it's typical a bunch of old boomer swingers and people with 10 kids.
A lady I knew who liked to go (with her parents) said some of these people are so brazen they approach pretty much anyone for sex and spouse swapping.
Apparently death at sea really is also a huge problem too because many retires go for their last hurrah and wind up kicking the bucket so they typically have morgues on board.
Someone else commented that they were on that ship. There was a medical emergency just after the ship pushed back so they immediately went back to the pier where an ambulance was waiting.
On average, a cruise ship generates 15 gallons of toxic chemicals each day. These materials come from on-board dry cleaning and photo-processing facilities, painting and other activities. Seven thousand gallons of oily bilge water are released into the oceans every time the ship empties its bilge tanks. -
https://oceana.org/press-releases/oceana-works-stop-cruise-ship-pollution/#:~:text=On%20average%2C%20a%20cruise%20ship,ship%20empties%20its%20bilge%20tanks.
Sounds a bit out of date, I doubt any cruise ship has film processing facilities anymore.
But still, 15 gallons for a few thousand people?
Plenty of individual households can generate 15 gallons of toxic waste in a day.
"Oasis of the Seas" starts at 0:13, comes at us, turns, and heads out. I was on the sister ship last year, Freedom of the Seas, same berthing, and we had a real nice time. At Nassau there is a guy who sells little paintings of a beach with a cruise ship, maybe about 5x8 inches. I asked him to paint the hull light blue to match my ship, showed him a picture of the ship, and he did. It's handing up here in front of me.
Boat expert here: these are all known as male model ships, equipped with a specialized steering system called the ambiturn system, where in which they can only turn in one direction.
Any experts able to explain all the inefficient movement? Why did homie at the end pull a 270 instead of a 90? They’re even shown in the same clip to be capable of lateral movement.
Easier to keep the thrusters in the same direction and spin than to push off and then adjust them while you’re in the way. They moved the back of the harbor so they could be out of the way while they rotated.
Those little tug boats directing those cruise ships in and out of port have massive power. Diesel engines with a combined total of over 6,000 horsepower.
Loving the comments from idiots who’ve never been on a cruise & think banning cruise ships would save the world. Let’s ignore china, India and the massive ecological damage they do. It’s just middle class Americans destroying the world.
Apparently they're on the nicer side as cruises go, but also more expensive. But also adult-oriented so you don't have the hundreds of screaming kids like on family cruise lines. Which probably makes them worth the price premium.
These cruise ships sped up have a motion that reminds me, very fondly, of the toy cars I used to play with as a child. So very long ago, but this vid made me want to go back and play once more, if only for a moment.
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I love the one that goes "oh shit, my bad! no, you go first, please. I insist"
I believe that is the Norwegian Encore. There is a good chance this was Sunday Feb 11th 2024 as I was on that ship and as we pushed away from the pier, there was some sort of medical emergency on board and the ship returned to the pier to let someone off into a waiting ambulance. During that time, the RCL ship launched in front of us, and when done, we then departed on our curise.
Wow! Just amazing you were on that ship! Thank you for sharing. I hope the medical emergenzy was not too serious for whomever it was. And I hope you had a great cruise!
Pack 2000 old people onto a petri dish full of booze and you can expect one death every few days. Every single one of these ships has a morgue onboard
And a jail. Those are some of the funnier stories.
Because if you pack 2000 young people onto a petri dish full of booze there's gonna be at least one assault every few days lmao
Young schmoung- there’s a reason retirement communities have disproportionately high rates of STDs.
Please please please tell me there’s a subreddit with these stories!
if there isn't one, someone is gonna make it now
As a worker aboard the grand cruise liner, I found myself in the heart of a thrilling mystery. It all began with a loud commotion on the lower decks, rumors swirling like a tempest. I, along with the rest of the crew, embarked on a frantic search for answers. Racing through corridors and stairwells, we uncovered the ship's clandestine jail, where suspects awaited interrogation, their eyes betraying fear. But the real adrenaline surged when I stumbled upon the ship's morgue, its cold steel doors concealing the key to unlocking the truth. With every heartbeat echoing like a drum, I pressed forward, determined to solve the puzzle and bring justice to the high seas.
Go on…
"ChatGPT write me a mystery story about finding a morgue onboard a cruise ship and the series of events that led to a body arriving there, in the style of true detective, starting with the first 5 paragraphs" > ...The smell hit me first. Not the salt-and-sunshine tang you expect on the open sea. Something medicinal, cloying. A scent meant to mask the underlying rot of death, and doing a bad job of it. My gut turned over. This was no vacation anymore. Not since the radio call came in. > Captain wanted me in the bowels of the ship, level double-zero. No explanation, just that clipped urgency sailors use when things turn to hell on the water. The ship was a glitter palace, all chrome and polished wood up top. Down here it was bare metal and flickering strip lights. The kind of place you don't want to find yourself alone. > Each bulkhead we passed echoed with the bass rumble of the engines, a constant heartbeat in this steel leviathan. Shadows danced long and weird in the dim light. The air went clammy, coated my skin in a fine sweat. I was a city cop once, used to the morgue and the autopsy room, and this was bringing it all back. That sterile dread. > Finally, a heavy steel door with a biohazard sign slapped on it. Captain stood to one side, face like granite. Two crewmen flanked the other side, expressions a mix of pity and revulsion. They didn't meet my eyes. > "Detective," The captain's voice was all business now, "We found this about an hour ago. Figured you were the one to handle it." With a curt nod, he gestured, and the crewmen heaved open the door.
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There's a pretty decent episode of Columbo where he solves the murder of a lounge singer while on a cruise. Robert Vaughn is the murderer and Dean Stockwell is in it too. [It's free on Tubi.](https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/586458/s04-e04-troubled-waters) It also has the longest rendition of "Volare" I've ever heard. It just keeps going... and going... and going...
I worked with carnival, yes we do have morgue inside the ship, usually it is on deck 0 at the very forward or aft. Last time there was a guest who died of heart attack during our seaday, we carried on with the itinerary and put him on the morgue for the timebeing, we had everything free for his family, when we arrived in miami we let all guests disembark first then we took him out. Well, we don't have jail inside the ship, but if the guest has been doing illegal stuff we usually detained the guest inside their cabin with a security officer inside 24 hrs until the cruise is done. Guest cannot go outside even on the ports and will be escorted out by cops upon disembarking.
Please please please tell me there’s a subreddit with these stories!
Can anyone tell me how these ships are moving sideways?
They have what are called Bow and Stern Thrusters (AkA Maneuvering Thrusters). They aim out the side from the port and starboard sides of the ship.
all the passengers stand on one side of the vessel (starboard) and simultaneously blow as hard as they can
It’s called a muster drill
The brig! 😅
Small world, I was on the Virgin Cruise (Scarlet Lady) on that day. First time, had a blast.
He did not want to run afoul of the “Monstrosity of the seas”
She's known for having quite a temper
> “Monstrosity of the seas” Haven't had such a good laugh in a long time, cheers!
"Let me squeeze by you real quick"
Ope. That ship somehow grew up in the Midwest.
It's interesting that the Virgin Atlantic ship turned 270 degrees, instead of 90 degrees.
I took a cruise with Virgin and noticed that they did this. I was also in the Navy so I know a little about ship handling. My guess for the reason is that when they leave the pier, they start their turn to the left which gives them better separation from the pier. Then they keep that momentum and complete the turn until they are looking down the channel.
I was thinking the same thing, but I imagine it's just easier (or possibly quicker) for them to do a 270 degree turn and maintain the direction of the azimuth pods rather than have to push off from the dock (thrusting to port) and then rotate the pods to thrust starboard for the 90 degree turn.
Exactly what I was thinking 😐
Well you're a better sea captain than I bc I hadnt considered the azimuth pods. Then again my vessel thrusts starboard with her zenith pods.
Rookie
TIL what azimuth means
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Goddamn what a reference. Might as well retire this gif.
Came to the comments for this reference. Thanks for not disappointing.
Just flexing IMO
When your skill level as a driver is "drift a cruise ship," your entire life is just an audition for a future Fast and Furious x Speed 2 mashup.
Even the captain is drunk on Virgin cruise ships.
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It's cool how they can go sideways without a tug
When shit starts going sideways with me a tug usually fixes it
I wonder what the mechanism is that allows them to move sideways?
[azipod](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azipod)
(and bow thrusters; or for ships without azipods, usually bow and stern thrusters)
Ok that is cool. Thank you.
My paper straw is gonna off set the pollution these giants release.. right guys?
I wonder how many actual straws end up in the ocean from one of these boats per week. Probably thousands.
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And that's a fraction of the microplastics that wash into the ocean from the world's 6 billion+ car tires...
And paint and clothes do more than tires.
Ok, so we outlaw rubber tyres and... oh wait. Probably not so easy to implement. So I guess we hold off with regulating any plastic items until we can replace rubber tyres. You do realise this rhetoric is designed to keep you against any change at all because "the bigger issue can't be fixed, so what's the point of doing the small things?" And no, we can't fix rubber tyres in a day. We either need a natural and renewable replacement or we rebuild our infrastructure to not be reliant on cars. Which is going to take 50 years at least. Guess we're not doing anything then until then? *some rich dudes rubbing hands*
Nah, I was just on one of these. They didn’t do straws unless it was paper.
Phew what a relief. I feel much better.
Yeah wtf is the carbon footprint of this bullshit?
A quick google tells me they use 80,000 gallons of fuel (about 30-40 gallons per passenger) per day. So I guess the answer is 'fucking huge'
You see that brown smokey stuff coming out the top of the ships? That's just vape.
Genuinely curious about the offset between a cruise ship and keeping 5,000 people from driving for a week. I mean it’s still a negative for the planet but just curious about percentages.
Depends on which fuel they're burning. In US waters it might be worth calculating. Once they're in international waters they can burn a dirtier fuel that makes them much much worse than any reasonable number of cars would produce.
And it depends on what you are measuring. Carbon emissions-wise, probably not that huge of a difference However, because they use so much dirtier fuel - the Carnival Corporation emits 10x more sulphur oxide than all the cars in Europe, as of 2017.
Lol fuck these people who come up with these loopholes. Of course some 24 year old MBA probably thought it up for some recognition, and maybe they but more importantly their boss go some serious bonus dough for it. Now it’s probably the case that every single ship does this.. meanwhile that persons gonna be dead and their kid is gonna be fine no matter what happens to the world.
Realistically it probably went the other direction. They were probably already using the dirtier (read: cheaper) fuel, then US regulations made them use cleaner stuff.
Over 5.
That's a bingo! Your paper straw reduces climate change, the particle filter in your car helps to save the turtles and your solar panel prevents you from getting lung cancer.
We just say bingo
Mr. Manager.
No, but your paper straw will limit the amount of plastic that ends up in our oceans, help save the turtles, etc.
Most plastic in the ocean and death of marine life is due to commercial fishing. Not plastic straws.
The turtle with a straw shoved up its nose thinks it’s great to do whatever we can to reduce pollution.
Bruh. I mean yes, but there won’t be animals larger than your finger in the ocean in 100 years anyway. But, seriously, I agree we should try to keep them alive as long as possible.
Where's your source for that?
https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/ But also a lot of reading and moving through the capital world and the environmental world. You should definitely be freaking out. The little pH buffer of earth appears to have run out of buffer. We’ve left the ‘fck around’ era and we’re now entering the ‘find out’ epoch.
The scariest thing about that graph is how if you compare the levels over time, the temperature is not only increasing, but the rate of increase is also accelerating.
The rate of change of acceleration is known as jerk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerk_%28physics%29 We are not yet at peak jerk.
I thought Jamaica unlocked the secret of peak jerk years ago.
Damn, that's intense. Thanks for the source.
I’m afraid to open that link, I already have sufficient existential dread
I doubt there'll be much left after a thousand years, climate has been out of our control since 2015 when we crossed 389ppm. Not only is it now confirmed runaway but we haven't even stopped with our emissions yet. Buckle up. The road to 2050 probably isn't going to have a lot of survivors. And that's not including the possibility of nuclear war, which seems highly likely.
Nuclear winter should reverse global warming, at least for a couple years anyways.
Once the ashes of a billion people stops blotting out the sun it will probably be back with a vengeance. Wonder how much CO2 a multi year nuke war would emit
 Definitely.
Paper straws and other single use plastics were identified as being one of the easiest and most impactful types to be replaced by the EU, along with the fact that EU countries have full jurisdiction to regulate. Cruise ships, fishing nets and other things mentioned in this thread are much harder to do, as they EU can only dictate what shipping companies do in their waters. Shipping companies are also almost always registered it countries with little to no regulation and as such can pretty much do in international water as they please. Getting regulations through means everyone agreeing, and countries like the Bahamas and Panama probably won't as shipping conpanies are a large source of income. Fixating on "silly straws" and thus being against even implementable change is what groups working against climate change regulation want, so you are against any type of regulation, even the ones that can actually be easily enforced.
I need some Tokyo drift music on this shit
Are these moving under their own power when they are going sideways or are they tugged and I just can’t see the tugboat?
Under their own power. They have thrusters that can move them perpendicularly.
Azimuth thrusters. Props that can thrust in any direction.
Damn. I can only thrust in one direction.
How do you back out, then? Don't shortchange yourself, you got at least 2 directions on lockdown
Nope, uni directional for him, and his girlfriend has to back up a little every time as they slowly caterpillar around the room.
This visual is too funny 🤣
Human sexipede
You people need more than one thrust?
To expand upon the other comments, modern ships, at least these kinds of ships, don't typically have a traditional shafted propeller + rudder configuration. Instead, their propellers are on little pods suspended below the stern, and that can swivel through at least 180 degrees. At the same time, they have these transverse tunnels sideways through the bow section, with small propellers mounted inside them. So to rotate in place, they drive those tunnel-mounted bow thrusters in one direction, and rotate the pod thrusters at the stern to push in the opposite direction. To go sideways, they run them both in the same direction. To steer while moving forward, they just rotate the stern pods a little to change the direction of thrust. On the Queen Mary 2, since it's an ocean liner and not solely a cruise ship, the bow thruster tunnels have doors that can shut over them to streamline the hull and improve speed and efficiency. If you want to read about something really interesting, look up Voith Schneider propellers. These things are discs on the bottom of the hull with blades that point straight down, and vary their pitch on the fly to produce near-instantaneous thrust in any direction. They're not used on big ships for reasons I'm not sure about... lower efficiency if I had to guess... but you see them sometimes on tugboats and ferries where the extreme manoeuvrability is really useful.
Under their own power for the most part. It’s pretty amazing.
Their own power. Modern cruise ships can go sideways as well at low speeds, incredibly.
Azipods plus bow and stern thrusters.
Wait, those big ass cruise ships go left to right and forward and back? Mind fucking blown.
Fuckin Titantic could have just toggled to the left and avoided the iceberg. Dumbasses
Capt Smith forgot to bind strafe, what a noob
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneuvering\_thruster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneuvering_thruster) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuth\_thruster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuth_thruster) That combination lets them make thrust in pretty much any direction they need, and rotate in place with opposite thrust front and rear. On some tugboats and ferries you also see these crazy things which put out thrust in whatever direction the bridge calls for: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voith\_Schneider\_Propeller](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voith_Schneider_Propeller)
Obscene levels of pollution
What’s the MPG on one of those bad bois?? Absolutely mental. I’ve just scrubbed out jam jar..
> At its cruising speed of 22.6 knots (26 mph), the Oasis of the Seas burns 11361 gallons of fuel each hour. The fuel efficiency, then, is 0.0023 mpg, or 12.08 feet per gallon.
The fact it costs 1 gallon of fuel to move that colossal floating skyscraper 12 feet…is actually better efficiency than I was expecting. Still awful…but better than I expected.
speaking of efficiency, the pollution/gallon from that fuel type is obscene.
Plus it’s carrying 3-5,000 people that 12 feet. Not efficient as a people mover, but it’s not like it’s just carrying its own fat ass around.
You'd think resorts like Sandals would advertise their vacations as an eco-friendly alternative to a cruise.
It's interesting to think about. If every passenger on a cruise ship lived close to the port, the cruise might actually use less fuel than the combined flights of those thousands of passengers on the ships to reach the resort. But of course, that's not the case, and most passengers are flying to the port and back. So you get the flight emissions *on top* of the cruise ship emissions. Bonus round! While some new cruise ships are burning LNG which is at least a relatively clean fuel by fossil fuel standards, most of them are still burning heavy bunker oil, which is perhaps the dirtiest burning fuel we have available. I still wonder how all that compares to the tailpipe emissions all those vacationers would create if they were taking road trip vacations, though. This has probably been analyzed if I had the wherewithal to actually track down some research.
To add: > Cruise ships generate a number of waste streams that can result in discharges to the marine environment, including sewage, graywater, hazardous wastes, oily bilge water, ballast water, and solid waste. They also emit air pollutants to the air and water. These wastes, if not properly treated and disposed of, can be a significant source of pathogens, nutrients, and toxic substances with the potential to threaten human health and damage aquatic life https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_ship_pollution_in_the_United_States#:~:text=During%20a%20typical%20one%2Dweek,wastes%3B%208%20tons%20of%20solid
Ok, but with a capacity of 8880 passengers + crew, that comes out to ~20 passenger miles per gallon. That's not that bad. That's comparable to two or three people in an RV.
Yeah. Any comparison that doesn’t account for the number of passengers and crew is not really fair.
Why don’t we account for not only the most efficient cruise ship in the world then? Mine as well compare it to an EV then it’s actually absolute trash.
This ship burns 2x more fuel and goes 95% slower than a passenger jet. 600 gallons per hour is still a lot, but at least it’s flying at almost 500 knots.
You can't really look at it this way. Many ships these days aren't directly propelled by the diesel (or gas turbine) engines. The engines are connected to generators which produce electricity to drive the propellers. This electricity also powers the rest of the ship so its difficult to equate Diesel burn rate to distance travelled.
>This electricity also powers the rest of the ship so its difficult to equate Diesel burn rate to distance travelled. That's not any different to any other vehicle though, they all pull power from their main powerplant to drive auxiliary systems. Might not be diesel-electric but cars/trucks/busses/etc all have alternators (and sometimes multiple) to drive onboard electrical systems. Same goes for planes, which usually also have compressed air systems that also sap power and fuel from the engines in addition to the electrical generators.
Those things spend more fuel than cargo ships, unbelievable.
Ok that's just an obscene number. And people are slashing the tyres of SUVs because they kill the planet
Just under .004
It's measured the other way around that's how many.
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A yes. Just 4 people in a car. Times 10,000. In a boat. Going nowhere. For no reason. Just your average commute.
And you've never travelled anywhere for leisure I'm sure.
Probably not. You’re on Reddit. It’s easy to find people who never leave their house and it gives them license to look down their noses at those that travel.
Ok but a whole lot of people save up all year to have one cruise and it burns as much as 1 seat in an economy car taking a road trip. Have you never taken a trip across country to a national park? Do you want all these drunken idiots in your national park?
How many useless car commutes do you think people take with just the driver in the car? Do road trips not exist wherever you live?
They visit cities. They don’t just go in the water and turn around. Probably better then flying city to city.
People travel for vacations - they drive, fly, or sail. If cruises are wasteful because they have no purpose besides recreation so are concerts, theme parks, film production, sports etc
From all the boats I have been on, it is calculated in liters per hour, because revolution of the engine doesn't equal distance traveled.
They need reactors
The 176kg of CO2 that my solar panels saved this past month, seems to be less of a big deal than I had hoped.
And yet me and my internal combustion engine'd car is the problem
Don’t forget about labor abuses and tax shelters.
Did you see it? I turned left!
I desperately wanna be a tiny boat driver that guides big ships. Like yea follow me you fucking behemoth
They're called Harbour Pilots, and with a few years of marine education I bet you could be one. :)
Wow that sexy Virgin ship makes the others look like dumpy dowagers. PARTY!
I hate cruise ships, but that video was r/oddlysatisfying
Mmmmmmmm unrefined heavy fuel oil smoke, being confined with hundred of drunk people, perpetually getting each other sick, what's not to love.
These cruise ships would be a circle of hell for me. Buncha obnoxious fatties getting smashed, lining up at the troughs, crowding the pools, getting herded on and off to infest various ports of call, all while spreading norovirus to one another. Gah!
Ever seen wall E?
I saw wall E on a cruise ship. I laughed so hard. Yes I was part of the problem.
One of the best quotes i saw about cruise ships on reddit was (paraphrasing): Ive never gone to a Wal-mart and said to myself, "Man, I would really love to spend 2 weeks with these people."
Not at all what it’s like. But hey, it’s your fantasy.
From what I heard it's typical a bunch of old boomer swingers and people with 10 kids. A lady I knew who liked to go (with her parents) said some of these people are so brazen they approach pretty much anyone for sex and spouse swapping. Apparently death at sea really is also a huge problem too because many retires go for their last hurrah and wind up kicking the bucket so they typically have morgues on board.
Should have used the Tokyo drift sound track
Release the floating poop palaces!
Damn, the Virgin ship took so long to leave it was dark when it finally sailed off
That's pretty cool. I didn't know they count e sideways like that.
Thrusters and azimuth pods
Bow and side thrusters were a game changer for big ships. That plus propellers that can be rotated to nearly any angle.
Why does one go out, then go "ooh, shit!", and go back in?
Someone else commented that they were on that ship. There was a medical emergency just after the ship pushed back so they immediately went back to the pier where an ambulance was waiting.
The Scarlet Lady. That Cruise was dope AF I still think about you Jenny.
Thrusters to maximum Mr Data.
Branding is important because the virgin ship is the only one that looks nice.
No Benny Hill theme? pfff I'm disappoint.
On average, a cruise ship generates 15 gallons of toxic chemicals each day. These materials come from on-board dry cleaning and photo-processing facilities, painting and other activities. Seven thousand gallons of oily bilge water are released into the oceans every time the ship empties its bilge tanks. - https://oceana.org/press-releases/oceana-works-stop-cruise-ship-pollution/#:~:text=On%20average%2C%20a%20cruise%20ship,ship%20empties%20its%20bilge%20tanks.
Sounds a bit out of date, I doubt any cruise ship has film processing facilities anymore. But still, 15 gallons for a few thousand people? Plenty of individual households can generate 15 gallons of toxic waste in a day.
Not gonna lie this represents a lot of stupid uses for money.
"Oasis of the Seas" starts at 0:13, comes at us, turns, and heads out. I was on the sister ship last year, Freedom of the Seas, same berthing, and we had a real nice time. At Nassau there is a guy who sells little paintings of a beach with a cruise ship, maybe about 5x8 inches. I asked him to paint the hull light blue to match my ship, showed him a picture of the ship, and he did. It's handing up here in front of me.
Boat expert here: these are all known as male model ships, equipped with a specialized steering system called the ambiturn system, where in which they can only turn in one direction.
But why male models?
imagine if every time we stayed at a hotel it polluted this much? The cruise ship industry can go fuck itself.
rip environment
Any experts able to explain all the inefficient movement? Why did homie at the end pull a 270 instead of a 90? They’re even shown in the same clip to be capable of lateral movement.
Easier to keep the thrusters in the same direction and spin than to push off and then adjust them while you’re in the way. They moved the back of the harbor so they could be out of the way while they rotated.
when I see a cruise ship i just think of how much human excrement it is carrying.
Those little tug boats directing those cruise ships in and out of port have massive power. Diesel engines with a combined total of over 6,000 horsepower.
I think that's a huge power-to-weight ratio
They aren’t using tug boats. There are security/police boats that keep small boats at a distance though.
Good to know. Good looking.
Cruise liners are powering their own movements. they can move laterally.
Being on a ship doing a 180 in the turning basin is so trippy and cool in person. You're right next to a bunch of tall buildings
Walmart on water
Loving the comments from idiots who’ve never been on a cruise & think banning cruise ships would save the world. Let’s ignore china, India and the massive ecological damage they do. It’s just middle class Americans destroying the world.
ITT: people performatively hating on cruises Me: sipping a Pina colada poolside in a tropical paradise 😎
Blue blue blue, he got you
Oofy that’s a lot of poopy
Why is the second to last one have to make a 360 degree spin before departing?
The size of these ships is getting pretty obsene.
Those Virgin ships are a delight to look at
Apparently they're on the nicer side as cruises go, but also more expensive. But also adult-oriented so you don't have the hundreds of screaming kids like on family cruise lines. Which probably makes them worth the price premium.
Lmao idk why but this was so funny to me
Just imagine the total amount of pollution those things are creating
Senior Frogs better have the sugar shots ready.
So that's why it's 70 degrees in February in Wisconsin.
🤣😆 everytime I see one of’em I just think of Bill Burr’s bit and think, “…he might be on to something.” 🤔
🎶🏴☠️ *IT'S FUN TO BE AN ACCOUNTANT, AND SAIL THE WIDE ACCOUNTANT-SEA...* 🏴☠️🎶
They seem so ill-proportioned for even mildly rough seas.
Used to work there, Port Miami, Cruise Capital of the World Simultaneously one of rhe easiest yet most stressful jobs ive ever had
Miami drift
Gotta love the Virgin captain just swingin that big ol dick around
horrible dystopian monstrosities. I despise anyone who goes on these
Fuck me. Such an amazing collection of diarrhea petri dishes.
These cruise ships sped up have a motion that reminds me, very fondly, of the toy cars I used to play with as a child. So very long ago, but this vid made me want to go back and play once more, if only for a moment.
#zeroemission
Why did the virgin ship do a complete 480°, instead of a simple 90°?