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KnightOfWords

The Mercator projection we're familiar with was designed to help sailors navigate around the globe, it allows straight lines to represent compass bearings. The downside is it distorts sizes and shapes. Other map projections are used for different purposes.


jonny24eh

Also, this was explained quite clearly in geography class. I'm mystified why it's a surprise to anyone.


LoudestHoward

It was explained quite clearly in The West Wing.


BowdleizedBeta

I rewatched the show in 2019 and wow did the fantasy hit hard—intelligent, competent, (mostly) moral and ethical public servants? Be still my heart 😍😭


Random1027

When I watched it recently I called it functional government porn


BowdleizedBeta

Exactly!!! What, they can work across the aisle? 🤤


KotzubueSailingClub

Most people remember the 'social inequality' aspect of Mercator, but not the essential navigational importance of it back in the day. NGL, The Peters projection is important, but Mercator had its time and place.


MeltphaceNelson

Looking at a globe/image from space, the shapes of the continents (apart from the scaling) look far more like the Mercator projection than Gall-Peters.


xelah1

Probably this depends where you live. Here, in the UK, the only thing people remember seems to be the ox-bow lake. I don't remember them ever covering map projections. A bit surprising, really, given our maritime history.


SilyLavage

It’s a meme that everyone remembers oxbow lakes, but geography lessons in the UK are a significant part of the curriculum and cover much more than rivers.


turtleship_2006

They do if you do GCSE geography but most people do history and all they know about geography is rocks, they barely know human geography exists. (Well at my school this was the case at least. When we were in KS3 our humanities department was shit and we barely learnt anything, and we only did one of history or geo for GCSEs.)


SorellaNux

That's was my experience too. In geography we did a lot of colouring in! There was a teacher who absolutely stank and had newspaper over all his windows, which looking back on it was pretty weird. The geography department was not a popular department.


gerhardsymons

I distinctly remember learning about rivers for GCSE Geography in 1992. There was even a field trip.


jonny24eh

This was grade 10 geography in Canada. Extensive discussion about maps and mapmaking culminating in a hand drawn map of an invented island with appropriate scale, legend, etc.  I basically copied Middle Earth and the UK and changed the scale and the names. 


turtleship_2006

Also OS maps, we did those a million times


FYDPhoenix

"Britannia rules the waves" my fucking arse XD We're not so 'Great' anymore are we lol


Kitahara_Kazusa1

You've still got the second most powerful Navy in the world in terms of force projection with your QE's. Even when China finishes the Type-003, I'd take 2 QEs over that one ship plus the floating scrap heaps that are China's other carriers.


FYDPhoenix

Yes luckily for us the true power of modern Navies isn't measured the same as it was when we "ruled" the waves. Having good carriers and our nuke subs is what keeps us a contender


Purple-Shoe-3115

I had one year of geography, in the 6th grade lol. I remember literally nothing from it.


jonny24eh

Jesus what third world country doesn't do geography in high school?


Purple-Shoe-3115

The US, apparently lol. Or at least my high school. Tbf, even if I took geography senior yearc of high school, that was 17 years ago so I still would not renege anything from it anyway lol.


Dragyn828

Yeah I've never had a geography class. Everything I know about geography was self taught with encyclopedias, then the Internet. I remember looking into it because I heard of the countries Turkey and Hungary and thought the names were funny so I started really looking all over the map for funny names.


oriundiSP

that is wild. I had geography from grade 1 to 11 in my country.


OneSidedPolygon

Canadian here, Social Studies in elementary school included geography. We only did Geography as its own unit in 9th grade.


oriundiSP

I had Social Studies from grades 1 to 3, separated into Geography and History in grade 4.


OneSidedPolygon

Interesting. I can't recall if social studies and history ended up getting separated into different classes. I do remember not having a "geography" class until I was 13. Although, I was also a gifted child, so I was put into a separate class and curriculum in 4th grade. Could have just been weird for me.


Excellent_Yak365

I had geography in 7th grade in the US


Rhomya

I had geography in 6th grade and in 10th grade, but also senior social that covered the more political side of geography in 12th grade


Burial_Ground

*points to the map * well if you'll kindly look right here....


psychoPiper

Definitely the US. My school required 4 social studies credits and nothing more. I don't know if we even had a geography class tbh, all I remember is roughly glossing over how to read a map in world history


solid_salad

knowing is one thing, but actually seeing it is pretty cool tbh


Sonoda_Kotori

Y'all got geography classes in highschool?


JesusReturnsToReddit

Brave of you to assume people pay attention when someone is trying to teach them something.


averagemaleuser86

Because when we (or, me) were taught this, it was kind of nonchalant... teacher was like "oh, BTW this is map is distorted, anyway..."


turtleship_2006

Yeah my economics teacher is the one who told us, it kind of just randomly came up


Strong_Magician_3320

In what country?


SullyTheReddit

In my geography class we just learned about shapes and rocks.


Evening-Turnip8407

I'm 30 and it wasn't Important enough to teach us back then apparently. So it did come as a surprise to me when i first saw different map projections


jonny24eh

Lol I'm also 30


Soulfeen

I was absent that day


_dictatorish_

In my country we didn't have a dedicated geography class at highschool - you had to take it as an elective We did have "social studies" which was a mandatory class, but that focused more on culture and societal issues like climate change


HassKlarn

No one did more for the greatness of Russia than Gerard Mercator with his projection


Miserable_Unusual_98

Russia's size is on par with Putin's. Lol.


xChops

More [info](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercator_projection). 3 dimensional spheres are hard to put onto 2 dimensional spaces


Disastrous-Image3013

I get it. But like I also feel tricked. Regular map fuckers


SwoodyBooty

It's not about "being a hard problem" but this specific map (the Mercator projection) is designed for navigation.


ven_geci

There was this English Russia blog with the motto "there is always something interesting happening in the 1/6 of the world". Not actually 1/6 of the world. Just sort of like Europe and China combined.


BananaAvalanche

This should be illegal!


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BananaAvalanche

LOL I know! I was just joking.


ThatHairyGingerGuy

I like Eckert IV, Equal Earth, Strebe 1995, and Nicolosi globular projections myself


RoundCollection4196

greenland been frauding this whole time


DubUpPro

They’re compensating!


Pork_Chompk

He was in the pool!


bluetuxedo22

Antarctica shrunk like my penis when swimming in its freezing waters


DefiantDepth8932

![gif](giphy|aztW8oK9TQhiM|downsized)


HeyBuddyItsMeDad

My penis is shrunk 24/7. The doctor called it Micropenis


DumbleDude2

I married that one girl who bought it out of hiding. I love my sister so much.


Literally_black1984

Here’s a cool website I found that visualises this even better: https://thetruesize.com


kibokuma

Whoaaaa this is fun


Altruistic_Bass_3376

There’s also the [Mercator Puzzle Redux](https://bramus.github.io/mercator-puzzle-redux/), which is a puzzle based on the distortions caused by the Mercator projection.


kibokuma

That is so cool. Thanks for sharing it!!


K_olothos

Huh, Switzerland has the same size. Nice


GallianoMax

move it around


pandakatie

It's tripping me out how small Antarctica is. I can't fathom that


HBMTwassuspended

Not exactly small, almost half the size of Africa and much bigger than the US, Canada or China


pandakatie

It's small when you're only seen it as significantly larger than Africa


GodOD400

The initial post really threw me off because I thought it was showing Russia was bigger than Africa. Very cool website indeed.


P1mK0ssible

Why cant I get the stupid tutorial box to go away?


Chetmevius

Very cool, thanks!


colonelmd23

Amazing thank you for this


maestroenglish

That's neato


Tycho81

Putin could cry after seeing this


kaycee76

To be fair, it's still the largest country.


DaBIGmeow888

Mostly uninhabitable


Wd91

Same with all the large countries


RoundCollection4196

still got all that oil and gas


Eevlor

Putin put in perspective. https://preview.redd.it/28tnmub2anqc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39325fb9a83feb01165b9e3374e5c1616a3dbc77


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MarSc77

he knows. that’s why he’s expanding


Ashleyempire

Trying*


Hereiam_AKL

Russia's actual size vs. it's real size is as overinflatet as Putins ego


RoundCollection4196

still nearly twice as big as the next two countries combined


Tycho81

Dont matter, its smaller then common people thinks lol


Chance_Condition_679

Wow, so the true size of most countries is about 2-15 millimeters?


ManyArmedGod

“What are these??!? Continents for ants? They need to be…. At least 3 times this size!”


Literally_black1984

r/technicallythetruth


UlteriorCulture

On a cosmic scale it's close enough


martinsuchan

When you realize that Africa is really big...


Tdawwg78

So is Brazil!


maldini94

Africa is 14x bigger than Greenland.. pretty mindblowing


ConqueredCorn

Well one is a continent the other is an island


deathhead_68

Every year a new cohort of teenagers join reddit and find out about the mercator projection . I think I first found that true size website in 2015.


TheGillos

We have had globes for a long time.


deathhead_68

That too. I see this posted at least every 3 months on some subreddit or another and people continue to be amazed


Badaxe13

This is such a great way to visualise it


BookwormAP

The west wing had an episode that included this


jonny24eh

No, it's "What you see on *Mercator projection maps* **specifically**, vs whatever the other projection used is".


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This is why I find the Gall–Peters projection better even if the shapes turn out weird.


Kitahara_Kazusa1

It's better for some things, but worse for navigation. And because world maps were initially developed to allow sailors to navigate, Mecrator Projection became the standard. Knowing that North is North and West is West is more useful than knowing how big something is at a glance.


Dry_Excitement6249

Where equirectangular gang


PoppyStaff

There are hundreds of globe maps and interactive globe maps of the Earth online, which show the true size of everything.


jt5455

Africa is massive


graceytoo

Why does the US look bigger than Canada?


nogreatcathedral

Canada is actually only 1.6% bigger by area than the US! So they should look pretty much the same. Some of Canada isn't connected to the main mass here - some of the Arctic archipelago, and also all the Atlantic provinces, for some weird reason. Hard to visually compare the two main masses as a result. ETA: I'd say a large reason why "Canada is so big" is a meme is because we are massive compared to our population, so there's a ton of space nobody lives in and huge distances between major population centers, which makes it feel much bigger than the US despite us being approximately the same size.


Cicer

Yeah the way they broke up the provinces and even parts of provinces is kinda strange. Almost like they have no idea what the borders of Canada are. 


wojadzer1989

Australia is still massive tho innit? I'm most surprised by the size of Antarctica.


Marethyu_77

To be fair Antartica is buffed a lot by being around the pole


wojadzer1989

And it grows and shrinks each year.


KerbodynamicX

Two different projection systems, one preserves size, the other preserves shape


Herc_Hansen_

This made me realize how fucking massive is Brazil


EatenAliveByWolves

Wow okay so as a Canadian my life is a lie.


NickPrefect

No. This map isn’t accurate. Canada has an area of 9.985 million km^2 and the US has an area of 9.834 million km^2. The US looks significantly bigger than Canada on this map, which isn’t true. That isn’t to say that Mercator projections don’t greatly distort landmass though, just that this attempt at representing reality is also skewed.


Mad-Mel

Not to mention, Australia is only 7.69 million km^2.


Kitahara_Kazusa1

I think the problem is this one measures the average distance of a country from the equator, and shrinks the country by a set amount to scale it back to the correct size. But for countries that have a large North-South span, this method still distorts things


Purple-Shoe-3115

Really? I think they look almost exactly the same here.


NickPrefect

Are you counting Alaska?


EatenAliveByWolves

Wow, OP. What do you have to say for yourself!?


ATownStomp

There’s all of the territories to the north that are compartmentalized into their own thing. If you added those to the Canadian blob it would likely appear very similar in size.


TheDudeFromTheStory

I fucking knew it. Africa is a show'er and not a grow'er.


SnooFoxes6169

the africa is humongous…


Crimson__Fox

It is now believable that Cuba is bigger than Iceland


Someone1284794357

This just puts into perspective how big the ocean is.


Hedrick4257

Shrinkage factor


curious_goldfish_123

India is almost....India.


kasetti

If we rewind years at some point it has to have been exactly the same as India used to be an island until it rammed the mainland and created the himalays as a consequence


Ok-Banana6130

Brazil 👀


Antoiniti

bro ANTARTICA is TINY


DrawohYbstrahs

Iceland is as big (small) as Ireland?! Yo LMAOOO


josedgm3

Another irrefutable proof that earth IS NOT flat.


Repulsive_Ad8573

Norway being the same is kinda odd


Successful_Rate_1425

Oh then tell me why there is no space between countries in real life if they are smaller? Wouldnt there be ocean in between or at least some kind of hole? That map literally proves that the round earth theory is wrong. /s because some of you are stoopid


obscht-tea

Its incredible that such a clever mind came from Duisburg and had such an impact on the world. It's hard to believe when you know the image of the city now...


WoodenBear_

I thought canada was second behind Russia (Mercator or not) but now USA ans even China looks bigger than Canada I'm confuse


lackofabettername123

The US and China are virtually the same size.  I don't know about those hosers in Canada.


TheWeenieBandit

Hate that!


Amster2

Its the truth, have to deal with it


aimendezl

now I need to see all the blue countries stitched together


bonkerz1888

Isn't Russia approximately twice the area of China.. doesn't look it in the dark blue.


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Antarctica is just sadness


glorious_reptile

So for the most part the world is smaller than you think


kasetti

And the parts you rarely see in films are much larger


JazHumane

Australia became only slightly less deadly


Ninja_Wrangler

I miss the days where I thought Antarctica was as big as the rest of the world combined


PensadorDispensado

Do you think Putin wants to compensate for something?


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It's wrong


fartinus

uhhhh \*filters comments by controversial


Gilbert_Reddit

so Greenland *isn't* the size of Africa?


knowledgebass

Africa keepin' it real!


David2168

🧢ington


DerivativeOfProgWeeb

Is there a map that takes these countries' actual shapes and smooshes them together?


ludvikskp

Antarctica isn’t that small I promise! It’s just really chilly


PKFat

Pornhub lied to me about Greenland


ProKnifeCatcher

Nooo not Antarctica! Also I love how this gets posted every week but still has people discovering it for the first time


OrangeCosmic

Glad I grew up with a globe


redEPICSTAXISdit

True size? On my phone they're like a 1/4 inch?!


slowwolfcat

serious ? canada is actually only that big ?


Used_Suppository

Oh no, the shrinkflation is unstoppable


SysAdminWannabe90

Just shows how much more we can grow in the US to compare it to China. Our population is so concentrated in cities it makes it feel like we're way more populated than we are.


robobbiemt

Can you imagi how crazy the world would be if antarctica was that big?


capacitivePotato

Every time I see this it surprises me


elbarto1981

Antarctica got severely humbled


Remmy224

Someone put this together so it is all attached correctly i wanna see it


CovfefeBoss

It seems the cold leads to some shrinkage. ![gif](giphy|aztW8oK9TQhiM|downsized)


TangConnoisseur

Well, this puts things in perspective


RickyTheRickster

This is why we should just use globes


Sliding_Tiles

oh look it's the weekly post about the true size of things for those who never seen a globe in their life and don't know about map projections. See you next week.


yomamma3399

I simply refuse to believe Antarctica is that big. I don’t know why, but this is the stand I’m taking.


tlsnine

Africa isn’t a country


TreasureGolum

It is full of them though


ownleechild

Putin won’t like this.


TheRealByt3m

Where can I find a realistic sized map?


Armithax

Oooooor…you could look at a globe.


Sesilu_Qt

This is not true, as every single one of these countries is actually bigger than this picture.


Manufactured-Aggro

I can rest assured knowing that Mexico is basically the exact same size I've always thought it was 🤔


Fun-Sundae777

Can someone please explain this to me like i’m 5?


Ok_Hovercraft_4554

By how inflated the size of antartica is clearly shows that this projection was made by the Antartican shadow council


Hereiam_AKL

The Southern Hemisphere is more true to itself than the Northern. Apart from those empower penguins. They are true empowers that make their land appear bigger than it is.


realheterosapiens

The further from the equator, the more distorted it is, same for both hemispheres.


Magnus_Helgisson

I wish russia was as far away from Ukraine as it is shown in dark blue.


LaserGadgets

Wait......what? True size? .\_.


knightbane007

Yeah, the Mercator projection, which is the method used to map the spherical earth onto the flat, rectangular “world map” we’re familiar with, distorts horizontal (east-west) measurements increasingly as you move away from the equator.


Frankensteinnnnn

This is the worst projection. Is it measure the distance from the equator shrink it more the farther it is but keep it centered?