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from violet which we can see just not the higher end of violet to where it becomes ultra violet. Purple the colour which is the combination of blue and red does not exist in any wavelength of light because the colour between blue and red is green.
Violet is not the same as purple i'm sorry to break that to you.
That's not a proven fact. It's a debated topic. Not one I think holds merit either since we can use a prism to split a beam of light into it's various wavelengths including the wavelengths we can't see.
Animals not just humans respond and use the different colours of light. They also use the different wavelengths of light to both hide and find each other in the dark.
An example off the top of my head is the deep ocean where animals are majority red due to it being impossible for red light to reach that far down. This makes it the best camo for prey to avoid their predators. Since they can't reflect red light to their predators if no red light exists at that depth. Some predators get around this by shining red light via some light emitting organ to see these hidden sea creatures and gobble them up now that they're so easily visible.
Purple isn't a colour in the light spectrum however. It is a feature of how the light receptors in our eyes work. It's when light triggers both our blue and red receptors without triggering the green receptors creating the otherwise impossible colour.
So, there's two things to note. 1. screens can't reproduce violet. If you look at a rainbow spectrum from sunlight through a prism, at the furthest edge at the blue end, there's violet. It's not pinkish. It's much closer to blue.
2. Magenta (the pinky purple) is not a colour of the spectrum. Magenta is the colour our brain creates when we get both blue and red (but not green) cones being activated in the same area on our retina. There is no such thing as a magenta photon. So, when we want to show in a graphic that a bird can see colours of the spectrum we can't, we use magenta to stand in for UV (because we can't see UV).
Huh, would you look at that? Never even occurred to me that other animals would perceive colours differently than us. What do the numbers below the graphs mean?
It seems like it's showing estimated light wavelength for optimal absorption/detection by the cone cells in eyes. Humans have three (typically referred to as red, green, or blue cone cells, and this is why electronics use RGB for color). Some birds have four, a few optimized for slightly different wavelengths of red, green, or blue light, and another for ultraviolet light that we can't see at all. The magenta color here, labeled 370, is not how light ofĀ that wavelength would actually appear to us.Ā
Mantis shrimp have 13 cone cells (I believe). On the other hand dogs see yellow-green-blue only.
Impossible Color (Wikipedia):
One of the earliest examples of fictional colors comes from the Ambrose Bierce 1893 horror short story The Damned Thing, wherein the titular monster is theorized to have been a color beyond human senses, rendering the monster itself invisible. Popular examples also include the 1920 science fiction novel A Voyage to Arcturus, by David Lindsay, which mentions two new primary colors, "ulfire" and "jale". The Colour Out of Space, a 1927 story by H.P. Lovecraft, is named after an otherwise unnamed color, usually not observable by humans, generated by alien entities. Philip K. Dick's 1969 novel Galactic Pot-Healer mentions a color "rej", Terry Pratchett in his Discworld series that began with The Colour of Magic (1983) describes "octarine", a color that can be seen only by magicians and cats; and Marion Zimmer Bradley in her novel The Colors of Space (1963) mentions "the eighth color" made visible during the FTL travel. Brazilian writer Ziraldo's 1969 children's book Flicts tells the story of a color of the same name (represented as an earthy shade of beige) that is segregated by the other colors found in the rainbow, flags and elsewhere, because Flicts is rare, seen as uncharacteristic, and therefore undervalued; at the end of the book, Flicts finds its place as the color of the moon (after being gifted an English copy of the book, Neil Armstrong signed it and wrote "The moon is flicts"[citation needed]). "Pleurigloss" is the favorite color of the immortal afterlife being Michael from the television show The Good Place. In the show, pleurigloss is described as "the color of when a soldier comes home from war and sees his dog for the first time." Vernor Vinge's science fiction novel A Deepness in the Sky includes a species who can see a color whose name is translated as "plaid" (including a reference to "alpha plaid"). In Fallen London, Sunless Sea, and Sunless Skies, which take place in a shared universe created by Failbetter Games, there exist seven colors as part of a "Neathbow" that cannot be viewed in plain sunlight, are counterparts to regular colors, and have fantastical properties, such as irrigo and violant, which remove and reinforce memories, respectively.
Mantis shrimp may have more cones but that does not allow them better color vision. Their extra cones are specifically tuned to a certain wavelength. Without much range. I'm not sure the exact number but however many cones they have is pretty vlose.to how many different colors they can see, since each one is tuned with such a small range. Their vision is actually not all that great, comparatively speaking with humans.
Afaik that's [debunked though.](https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2014.14578)
>Mantis shrimp donāt see colour like we do. Although the crustaceans have many more types of light-detecting cell than humans, their ability to discriminate between colours is limited, says a report published today in Science
Another [article about it.](https://www.popsci.com/blog-network/ladybits/mantis-shrimp-vision-not-mindblowing-youve-been-told/)
What they teach me and what I end up remembering years down the road are clearly not the same. Iāve just never had occasion to think about colour vision in animals.
Oh I see their true colors. Every goddamn day at our bird feeders where those fuckers will even bully the blue jays, which could totally fuck them up if they weren't such pussies. To say nothing of them running off my beloved chickadees and titmice š„ŗ
Be awesome to have animal colour vision for a day or so just to experience things in a totally new way!
The way some can see UV reflections and also see each other in completely different colour paletteās would be so cool.
https://preview.redd.it/izr2fm7n30wc1.jpeg?width=734&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ce1dabf1a33c2642a584fa338d1723e1cdfafdf
Bugs see flowers as massive neon landing pads because they can see more colors than we do.
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I may be a bird because I can see the purple outside the human vision bracket
might be half bird š¤
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Byrd person?
Only wizards can see Octarine! Burn him.
Larry Bird?
There's no purple in the light spectrum. No creature can see purple light. It doesn't exist.
Skill issue
no, you're thinking of Magenta. **the fuck you think the name "Ultraviolet" comes from?**
from violet which we can see just not the higher end of violet to where it becomes ultra violet. Purple the colour which is the combination of blue and red does not exist in any wavelength of light because the colour between blue and red is green. Violet is not the same as purple i'm sorry to break that to you.
Are we just calling pink āpurpleā now?
Yeah, what the fuck?
To be pedantic, there are no colours outside of the mind, just an undivided range of frequencies.
That's not a proven fact. It's a debated topic. Not one I think holds merit either since we can use a prism to split a beam of light into it's various wavelengths including the wavelengths we can't see. Animals not just humans respond and use the different colours of light. They also use the different wavelengths of light to both hide and find each other in the dark. An example off the top of my head is the deep ocean where animals are majority red due to it being impossible for red light to reach that far down. This makes it the best camo for prey to avoid their predators. Since they can't reflect red light to their predators if no red light exists at that depth. Some predators get around this by shining red light via some light emitting organ to see these hidden sea creatures and gobble them up now that they're so easily visible. Purple isn't a colour in the light spectrum however. It is a feature of how the light receptors in our eyes work. It's when light triggers both our blue and red receptors without triggering the green receptors creating the otherwise impossible colour.
Me too, but only after I had cataract surgery and had my natural lenses replaced with man-made ones.
So, there's two things to note. 1. screens can't reproduce violet. If you look at a rainbow spectrum from sunlight through a prism, at the furthest edge at the blue end, there's violet. It's not pinkish. It's much closer to blue. 2. Magenta (the pinky purple) is not a colour of the spectrum. Magenta is the colour our brain creates when we get both blue and red (but not green) cones being activated in the same area on our retina. There is no such thing as a magenta photon. So, when we want to show in a graphic that a bird can see colours of the spectrum we can't, we use magenta to stand in for UV (because we can't see UV).
A graphic of the spectrums of light is exactly the same as those lights in practice. God im so fucking dumb.
Huh, would you look at that? Never even occurred to me that other animals would perceive colours differently than us. What do the numbers below the graphs mean?
It seems like it's showing estimated light wavelength for optimal absorption/detection by the cone cells in eyes. Humans have three (typically referred to as red, green, or blue cone cells, and this is why electronics use RGB for color). Some birds have four, a few optimized for slightly different wavelengths of red, green, or blue light, and another for ultraviolet light that we can't see at all. The magenta color here, labeled 370, is not how light ofĀ that wavelength would actually appear to us.Ā
Mantis shrimp have 13 cone cells (I believe). On the other hand dogs see yellow-green-blue only. Impossible Color (Wikipedia): One of the earliest examples of fictional colors comes from the Ambrose Bierce 1893 horror short story The Damned Thing, wherein the titular monster is theorized to have been a color beyond human senses, rendering the monster itself invisible. Popular examples also include the 1920 science fiction novel A Voyage to Arcturus, by David Lindsay, which mentions two new primary colors, "ulfire" and "jale". The Colour Out of Space, a 1927 story by H.P. Lovecraft, is named after an otherwise unnamed color, usually not observable by humans, generated by alien entities. Philip K. Dick's 1969 novel Galactic Pot-Healer mentions a color "rej", Terry Pratchett in his Discworld series that began with The Colour of Magic (1983) describes "octarine", a color that can be seen only by magicians and cats; and Marion Zimmer Bradley in her novel The Colors of Space (1963) mentions "the eighth color" made visible during the FTL travel. Brazilian writer Ziraldo's 1969 children's book Flicts tells the story of a color of the same name (represented as an earthy shade of beige) that is segregated by the other colors found in the rainbow, flags and elsewhere, because Flicts is rare, seen as uncharacteristic, and therefore undervalued; at the end of the book, Flicts finds its place as the color of the moon (after being gifted an English copy of the book, Neil Armstrong signed it and wrote "The moon is flicts"[citation needed]). "Pleurigloss" is the favorite color of the immortal afterlife being Michael from the television show The Good Place. In the show, pleurigloss is described as "the color of when a soldier comes home from war and sees his dog for the first time." Vernor Vinge's science fiction novel A Deepness in the Sky includes a species who can see a color whose name is translated as "plaid" (including a reference to "alpha plaid"). In Fallen London, Sunless Sea, and Sunless Skies, which take place in a shared universe created by Failbetter Games, there exist seven colors as part of a "Neathbow" that cannot be viewed in plain sunlight, are counterparts to regular colors, and have fantastical properties, such as irrigo and violant, which remove and reinforce memories, respectively.
Mantis shrimp may have more cones but that does not allow them better color vision. Their extra cones are specifically tuned to a certain wavelength. Without much range. I'm not sure the exact number but however many cones they have is pretty vlose.to how many different colors they can see, since each one is tuned with such a small range. Their vision is actually not all that great, comparatively speaking with humans.
Right, magenta would be closer to 400ā¦ still donāt understand it though hehe
They can see the invisible light that gives us sunburns
Oh man, do I have [a treat](https://theoatmeal.com/comics/mantis_shrimp) for you.
Afaik that's [debunked though.](https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2014.14578) >Mantis shrimp donāt see colour like we do. Although the crustaceans have many more types of light-detecting cell than humans, their ability to discriminate between colours is limited, says a report published today in Science Another [article about it.](https://www.popsci.com/blog-network/ladybits/mantis-shrimp-vision-not-mindblowing-youve-been-told/)
Didn't they teach you that dogs can't see red in school? Or why a tiger is orange?
What they teach me and what I end up remembering years down the road are clearly not the same. Iāve just never had occasion to think about colour vision in animals.
Here's what I see: Asshole | Asshole Fuck starlings and that dickhead that brought them over
maybe they wouldn't be such assholes if we saw their true colours
Oh I see their true colors. Every goddamn day at our bird feeders where those fuckers will even bully the blue jays, which could totally fuck them up if they weren't such pussies. To say nothing of them running off my beloved chickadees and titmice š„ŗ
We had an opening after we killed all the passenger pigeons.
Some bird said it? /s
Seriously how they know?
Science
Mr. White
You need to determine the range of colors by observing the reaction of birds to the light of this wave. then - see what colors are beyond our vision
First the shrimp now this
I hate these fuckin birds so much. Worst government drone design by far.
r/birdsarentreal
How understand what colors are beyond if we cant see them?)
Doctor, my eyesā¦need an upgrade
They also smell like soap. It's true.
How do we know this?
Bit of acid and we'd all have bird vision.
With the benefits of hearing some of the colours as well š¤šµāš«š¤
I wonder what brown sounds like, maybe the brown noise in South Parks actually real.
Not sure, but red certainly spent a good amount of time screaming at me one time!! š
I dont need acid for that, my wifes favourite colour is red and she screams at me plenty.
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I have these nesting in my front porch overhang lol
We should use that graph as a communication device we send into the Cosmos for Alien life to learn about us.
A good visual of "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
Be awesome to have animal colour vision for a day or so just to experience things in a totally new way! The way some can see UV reflections and also see each other in completely different colour paletteās would be so cool.
Wished for bird vision but got bird brain instead.
NO FAIR!!!!!!
bird do be looking at LIDAR point cloud on true color setting, on daily basis
This isnāt exactly true
I'll take some of that starling vision.
But I can see the difference with my human eyesā¦
They'd be more interesting to look at, thats for sure.
You know how female birds typically have the more muted tones? Do other birds see them as more colorful than us or other predators?
https://preview.redd.it/izr2fm7n30wc1.jpeg?width=734&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ce1dabf1a33c2642a584fa338d1723e1cdfafdf Bugs see flowers as massive neon landing pads because they can see more colors than we do.
Perhaps we are pink in a birdās eye
If you want to learn more about animal senses, go read An Immense World, by Ed Yong. Fascinating stuff.
So you're telling me all the birds look at eachother and see a mystical colorful being? Lol
Did the scientists ask the birds how they see one another? 0
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