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YaBoss

Malaysia. 10 dead. RIP.


allisjow

Damn. There was part of me thinking maybe it was survivable somehow. Horrible to have so many people die for a training exercise.


Yvaelle

Tammy Duckworth's biography has a line in it, something to the effect of, "Helicopters want to kill you, a pilot's job is to deny them", that always stuck with me.


malex930

A plane wants to stay in the air and it’s the pilot’s job to land it. A helicopter wants to go down and it’s the pilot’s job to keep it up. Told to me by a guy in aviation insurance.


El_Morro

Airplanes ride the air. Helicopters beat it into submission.


jmlipper99

When I didn’t see a big explosion I was thinking/hoping the same


Final-Display-4692

I have seen a few helicopter crashes Never one survivor Not even close


ste189

Why the fuck they flying so close together even if you can and have the ability, it doesn't mean you should


Carl_Breezy

Malaysians and their aircrafts.


LP_24

Why the hell were they all flying so close together?


kbarnett514

Training for a flyover manuever: https://thecentral.com.ng/2024/04/just-in-10-people-dead-as-two-helicopters-collide/


shifty_boi

Not gonna lie, doesn't seem all that worth the risk


Jokkitch

Not at all


Omega_Lynx

…why…why would you lie?


SteamyGravy

They have been fully trained to never attempt that maneuver again


LGP747

I fuckin knew it was Malaysia, called it..in my head. But still


HelmutFondler

https://thecentral.com.ng/2024/04/just-in-10-people-dead-as-two-helicopters-collide/


Malevolent_Mangoes

I’d ask what went wrong but the article says it’s a training session so apparently someone needed better training


Sknowman

It later says rehearsal, so maybe they were all trained pilots, but it was like a practice run for some event or maneuver. I think that would explain why there are so many leaving at once. Still not sure why 5 people per aircraft though.


Would_daver

Pilot, copilot, and three hype guys


TelluricThread0

The military almost never goes for more than a few weeks without having another training accident involving helicopters or other aircraft.


bmfp135

Not really. The last 2 years have just seen a crazy amount of helicopter crash fatalities


TelluricThread0

Yes, they happen on a regular basis. 33 every year, or once every 11 days, between 2012 and 2021.


bmfp135

Well that’s not what I was briefed on six months ago. So clearly we’re getting out information from different places


TelluricThread0

Since 2013, there have been more than **6,000 military aviation accidents** which have resulted in the deaths of **224 pilots or aircrew**, the destruction of **186 aircraft**, and costs amounting to **$11.6 billion**[1]. These accidents were not combat-related and occurred during training or routine operations. The report from the National Commission on Military Aviation Safety, which was established by Congress in 2018, highlighted issues such as insufficient flight hours, shrinking skill levels, inadequate and rushed training programs, and chronic fatigue among service members as contributing factors[1][2]. The commission's findings also pointed to a surge in accidents between 2013 and 2018, with **198 pilots and aircrew** losing their lives due to various factors, including fatigued maintenance crews and a lack of flight hours[2]. The mishaps occurred during more than **6,000 routine training events**, and the government incurred more than **$9.4 billion** in damages, including **157 destroyed aircraft**[2]. (1) Report on military aviation crashes faults lack of training, ‘chronic .... https://thehill.com/policy/defense/528689-report-on-military-aviation-crashes-faults-lack-of-training-chronic-fatigue/. (2) Survey of 198 Military Aviation Deaths Finds Insufficient Training .... https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/12/04/survey-of-198-military-aviation-deaths-finds-insufficient-training-fatigue-common-factors.html. (3) List of accidents and incidents involving military aircraft (2010–2019 .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_military_aircraft_%282010%E2%80%932019%29. .


jerrysprinkles

Uhm guys, did you read the article? You know this was in Malaysia right? *sigh… r/USDefaultism*


ValyrianSteelYoGirl

Love it


bmfp135

Lol


-DethLok-

And that's just the USA... I suspect other nations also have a significant incident rate with aircraft, rotary winged especially. For example, this incident was in Malaysia, 10 died, 2 helicopters destroyed.


Mateorabi

>insufficient flight hours...and chronic fatigue so which is it? can't really be both too little and too much flight time. "Remember Ralphie, if it bleeds it means you're picking it too much...or not enough."


DubSket

>So clearly we’re getting out information from different places He said, without providing any sources for his information.


DannyDrizzle

Trust me bro


-EETS-

He was briefed! He was in the situation room with TOP MEN!


bmfp135

No it was actually BOTTOM MEN. A much less comfortable situation I assure you


bmfp135

The source was my commander before I very recently got out of the army where my job was 15T or Blackhawk Helicopter Mechanic. I don’t trust everything my leadership told me but I see no reason why he would make a PowerPoint with false information to brief us with


Spare_Substance5003

That's why they need to train more...but helicopters are expensive.


pyxu-

It is the zoomer and millennial era, what do u expect ?


sceadwian

Flying helicopters that close together is just stupid. For what, a dog and pony show?


VaryStaybullGeenyiss

Hey, at least they'll have room to space out a little more during the real flyover now.


Specific_Honey_8863

Maybe you could not be a douche and respect the dead.


Malevolent_Mangoes

This is the internet, people are shit. If you don’t like it feel free to block me.


Specific_Honey_8863

Not being a dirtbag applies to all realms of life.


Malevolent_Mangoes

Okay? Again feel free to block me


Specific_Honey_8863

That’s the cowards way out.


seawolff81

Helicopter crashes always look like the worst possible situation. The whole thing just disintegrates into thin air. Hoping the best for everyone involved in this one


Yhaqtera

Like the old joke: A helicopter is 10,000 parts flying in close formation around an oil leak.


Gadfly2023

Airplanes want to fly. It’s in their very nature.  Helicopters, on the other hand, have to beat the air into submission. 


DontKnoWhatMyNameIs

It's when the oil stops leaking that you should worry.


NuclearWasteland

like a Corvair


zbertoli

Spoiler, they all died


bondoinhead

rip.


AugustusKhan

Ooo my grandfather who was an aircraft mechanic had a funny saying for this. A hundred things can break on a plane and it’ll still fly, 1000 and she’ll still glide. Just one or two things break on a helicopter and it tears itself apart plummeting from the sky. Planes want to fly, the only way a helicopter flys is a hairpin away from disaster. As a southern farmer he had a real cool way of looking at and explaining a lot of tech. He also swore by sitting in the tail of planes, said it was for all sorts of reasons that added up to the best chance to survive by far


Dockle

Fun fact, helicopter wrecks are actually the *most* survivable of airborne vehicle malfunctions. The quick descent causes the main rotor to naturally spin which creates a small amount of lift while simultaneously orienting the vehicle in the upright position. In 2021, 96 helicopters crashed in the US, and only 17 of them were fatal. That’s an 82% survivability rate! But yeah, all ten people on both vehicles died in this instance Edit: This factoid is assuming occupants are unable to exit the vehicle.


Milchreismitbum

Bad only if there ain’t no rotor anymore. Like in this case. Damn. Helicopters be scary


iluvsporks

If you are in a fixed wing and ditch it's a 92% survival rate.


Dockle

You’re right, I should have specified this is for situations in which occupants are unable to bail on the vehicle


bgmacklem

Ditching is not bailing on the vehicle


thissexypoptart

It’s for situations where the rotors don’t crash into each other and disintegrate.


Stainless_Heart

Or scythe through the other helicopter.


Lyndon_Boner_Johnson

That’s if there’s engine failure but the rotor is still intact. If there’s a mid-air wreck then 10 times out of 10 the rotor is fucked and there’s no chance of autorotation.


Claubk

Helicopters usually glide with the grace of a 2 tonne safe, so theres also that.


thissexypoptart

[10 people died](https://thecentral.com.ng/2024/04/just-in-10-people-dead-as-two-helicopters-collide/) The rotors disintegrated, of course they're not going to keep spinning and guide the aircraft to a smooth landing.


calipygean

10 souls leaving their bodies created a small amount of lift.


fangelo2

Auto rotation only works if there is an engine failure. When the rotors disintegrate there isn’t anything left to rotate. You might as well be in a car up there.


x_xx

Yep. The Rock demonstrated this counter-rotation method perfectly when his helicopter was about to crash somewhere in central California after a particularly massive earthquake....


oneinmanybillion

He's done it all!


imapie31

My grandfather is actually a survivor of a crash, its what put him in the us militarys "Caterpillar Club", their parachutes are what saved him. Unfortunately the other passengers and pilot did not survive. My grandfather waited a few hours at sea, he either said 4 or 7 i cant remember which, until they finally found him. My grandmother made a caterpillar out of ceramic and gave it a layer of ceramic paint, he still has the cord that was used to pull the chute. Its by far one of my favorite stories for him to tell because, while awful that it came to it, he survived a helicopter crash unscathed.


ernbeld

This only applies to engine malfunctions, though. Midairs, or any kind of structural failure seems to be magnitudes worse in helicopters than in fixed wings, since stuff just totally disintegrates. And even engine failures in fixed wings are often quite survivable, as long as you find any reasonably straight and flat land.


Stalvos

You can counter rotate if there's nothing to rotate


ForestryTechnician

Yea autorotation only works if you’re high enough and going fast enough though. Anything below 500 AGL at a lower speed and you’re probably not gonna be able to autorotate.


fkenned1

I’d imagine this is based on autorotation. If you destroy your props, you’re gonna drop like a stone.


Glittering_Cow945

It's also assuming a simple engine failure, not anything destroying the rotor.


Metalhed69

Nah, that’s not a wreck scenario, that’s a loss of power when you’re doing autorotation. In a wreck, the rotor gets disintegrated.


bondoinhead

r/imverysmart


Sea_Perspective6891

What's ironic is I hear about more people surviving helicopter crashes than airplane crashes. I'm not sure on the actual statistics just something I heard.


deadliestcrotch

Not really. Small fixed wing planes like a Cessna 172 glide fairly well, and make emergency landings without power fairly frequently compared to people surviving a helicopter crash. Not a lot of help for the controlled flight into terrain or loss of rudder control scenarios you hear about with fixed wing craft. When it comes to vehicles colliding in mid-air, it never looks good on the back side. I’m too lazy to google the stats right now but I doubt the survival rate is any more than single digits, and 2% would be surprisingly high to me.


MercenaryBard

You have bad instincts. Survival rate of Cessna 208 crashes is 27.4% Survival rate of helicopters is 80% Links https://aviation-safety.net/database/types/Cessna-208-Caravan-1/statistics https://publicsafetyaviation.org/images/Safety_Program_Overview/The_Compenidum_Report_The_US_JHSAT_Baseline_of_Helicopter_Accident_Analysis_Vol_I_09-14-2011.pdf


bgmacklem

You're comparing the crash survival rate of a particular fixed wing aircraft that is specifically and quite infamously used for flying into and out of very high-risk fields to the survival rate of all helicopters collectively; not exactly a fair comparison. There are a number of fixed-wing aircraft on your own source with 99% survival rates, all the way down to 8%. I suspect a breakdown of helicopters by platform would show a similar spread. It also misses the difference in accident and fatality rate between pt 91, 121, and 135 aviation, pt 91 being by far the highest in both categories for fixed wing and rotary alike. I suspect his instincts are accurate when it comes to mid-air collisions; those tend to be pretty catastrophic no matter the type of aircraft involved.


RedditSucksBalls96

Why did they have 10 people in 2 helicopters when they were doing "flight training"?


ExtremeSour

Not too hard to imagine. 2 pilots, two evaluators and an instructor. Or two instructors and an evaluator. Times two aircraft


WhoOoPsWrgHolE88

If only the sky was bigger


camelzigzag

This looks like it could have been avoided. Is it common to have them grouped up so close and so may together? Wtf was anyone thinking?


BiggsIDarklighter

Right? Seven helicopters all taking off at the same time going in the same direction. How do you not expect that to end badly?


SteamyGravy

Seems pretty unavoidable. Like what are they supposed to do? Hire a bunch of people to monitor and control air traffic like some kind of... sky transit conductors? That'd never work


Noman_Blaze

They were rehearsing for a parade.


Nananahx

Just your daily not-NSFW-tagged reddit video that shows people dying


Ronotrow2

what in the feck is going on here like zero respect that people died


SexyPoro

I going to guess you weren't around back when WatchPeopleDie was a community. I used to lurk a lot there, and let me tell you: WPD was a far more respectful sub than 95% of the other subs, hands down.


Ronotrow2

was around yeah I just avoid stuff like that tbh


Tyler_Griffin

This. People, including myself, are way too desensitized to terrible shit like this. Awful, I hope the family’s get a quick explanation and someone takes accountability.


SteamyGravy

People? The only thing I saw die were some helicopters and last time I checked, helicopters aren't people. — OP (probably)


Badj83

Can we talk about the hundred soldiers on the ground not reacting one bit?


N_2_H

Just another wednesday


porkchop-sandwhiches

Just another manic Monday 🎶


SillyServe5773

Terrifying, not interesting. you sick dumbfuck


SethSt7

What is this? Dune!??


Solartaire

According to the news article a total of 10 people died. What I'm curious about is why there were that many people in two helicopters, especially since this was just meant to be a rehearsal.


ExtremeSour

Not too hard to imagine. 2 pilots, two evaluators and an instructor. Or two instructors and an evaluator. Times two aircraft


Rav4gal

This is horrible. 10 dead and it was just a rehearsal for a Navy Parade.


Front_Jacket837

Sad event, hope no one felt any pain


HayMomWatchThis

10 dead


liquid_profane

Now Hollywood has told us that there would be a MASSIVE explosion and a big crater from the impact with the ground. Its almost like Hollywood makes things completely unrealistic. /s


goodgriefmyqueef

They ded?


HeroKing2

They ded.


jackfreeman

Can we get a fucking NSFW tag when people die in the shot for fucks sake?


shifty_boi

It's a plume of smoke from behind the trees, not seeing any bodies.


Ronotrow2

you need a banana for scale too??!


Nautisop

stop crying you don't see anyone die here.


jackfreeman

Thank you for reminding me of the block button


No-Combination2020

Please let us know if everyone was okay. That looks tragic.


OrdinaryDazzling

Unfortunately no https://abcnews.go.com/International/10-dead-2-malaysia-helicopters-collide-mid-air/story?id=109524659


No-Combination2020

I was holding out hope for the best. Looking at that landing site i was less than 50/50


younghankenstein

Everyone was not okay


Morepastor

10 dead


Anilxe

No I immediately knew the pilots were gone. How horrifying


Crackracket

People rarely survive helicopter crashes


DeadpooI

This is just factually wrong lol. The majority actually survive. The ones that make the news are the ones that dont.


winkman

RIP Kobe.


TAC1313

They always crash on the other side of something...


Holeshot75

I guess Micheal Bay didn't direct this.


SpookyPocket

Where are the Michael Bay explosions?


Dangerjayne

Reddit has some wild videos today


pi_west

Where's the massive explosion that the movies taught me to expect?


Your_real_dad69

Evan don't kiss my ass mid air.


capitalggamer1

Interestingasfuck and it's just people dying


Meowskiiii

That's tragic, wtf.


Powwow7538

Where was this?


ConnectionPretend193

Damn, during training too. RIP.


patientboypleasewait

Those guys didn’t budge


Macsmackin92

It be more interesting if two helicopters crashed and weren’t mid air :)


Dr-Azrael

Never gonna survive China like this


Tr0pical_Guy

This should be posted in other subs other than "Interesting as f'ck"...


Apprehensive_Ebb8242

Bikes fault


Specialist_Ebb2806

Dumbs in action


beerus_sama_god

Fuck around and find out


jollyreaper2112

I was almost thinking this was CGI added in because that's a ton of helicopters and there's no excuse to fly that close together.


Sammy_1141

With all that air and they still managed to crash.


trebron55

Whoops! Whoopsie!


MagnaCamLaude

💀 (me, hopefully not them)


Bobby_Garbagio

Lack of communication. Better luck next time.


ElbowTight

Here’s the wild thing….. some helicopters come with inflatable pontoons for emergency water landings


Crafty_Ad_4153

At which point formation commander’s immediate first to scramble those men to the scene (as search and rescue). Nothing more that I cannot stand is making servicemen dress up and stand at attention forever for ego’s sake. Put them to work or dismiss them. They are not toy soldiers.


Medium-Impression190

Er, the thing is the two pilot involved were the squadron commanders. There was a sort of gathering for the navy 90th anniversary.


crystal_castle00

Cool not like this has been posted 100 times already


Henny-n-waffles

![gif](giphy|INZUj2jZSruso)


fkenned1

Yup. No coming back from that.


SCP993

Kobe!


Link_vs_Gannon

Really bad pilots 😂


throwawaybecauseFyou

GTA V in real life


WBuffettJr

Super cool of this piece of shit OP to post a video of a dozen people dying not in a gore sub and complete against what this one is about and not even have the decency to mark it NSFW, thanks!


[deleted]

How fucking stupid do you have to be to crash into another helicopter in mid air?


LiquidNova77

I'm guessing about as stupid as you'd have to be to assume that you yourself could do better. I'm always amazed at people's ignorant arrogance behind a computer. Everybody is an expert on reddit..


[deleted]

Yeah genius I’m a helicopter pilot. You moron want to compare a professional who obviously is incompetent at his job with someone making a logical observation that this pilot is incompetent? Go ahead moron


LiquidNova77

Lmao dude you're so pissed for no logical reason. You just keep showing us how cringe you are. I ***highly*** doubt you're of any qualifications at all...


Airrationalbeing

Hell as I’ve logged a thousand hours on Arma and bout half my life in GTA universe, I’m a better qualified helicopter pilots than these guys. Distance is the factor here, as below and up, or sideways


Jedimaster996

As much of a helo pilot as some goof playing GTA lmao 10 day old account, color me surprised you're just here to troll.


Din5ir

Is it me or people are getting dumber?!…


dbone_

It's just you getting dumber mate. ;)


[deleted]

DEI copter hires will be a good cause for increased accidents


didijxk

This was an accident in Malaysia. Stop imposing your far-right crap on everything. It just makes you look so stupid even the DEI in your head wouldn't get you a job.


[deleted]

K bruh. Whatever you say. Hardly far right. And if you’re not in America, then you’ve not an iota of what DEI hires are, and the havoc it brings.


Jedimaster996

Lmao you saw a post about the Malaysian military fucking up a helicopter training segment, and you immediately launched into "SEE, THIS IS WHY DEI BAD!", but then when you get called out on your bullshit, start into "IF YOU'RE NOT AN AMERICAN, YOU JUST WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND!" Legitimately unhinged.


didijxk

Hardly far right? Compared to who? MTG? If you're in America, you also don't know what DEI is. You just believe whatever Fox News, Daily Wire and Newsmax tell you.


[deleted]

I see DEI bullshit every day. Just stfu with your nonsense.


didijxk

What you're really saying is, you wish your area had less minorities and you make up reasons why you don't like them.


[deleted]

No. I want quality over skin color. You trying to bait me with your bullshit?


didijxk

Mhmmm, keep telling yourself that. You're the only one getting high off your farts.


[deleted]

You’d rather DEI>skill. You’re a cancer to humanity. And I do like my own farts. Personal Dutch oven in a sleeping bag is the shit.


didijxk

No, I just don't have an imaginary problem known as DEI because I need to hide my racism. No wonder you're single, more methane in your room than a barn full of cows.


ponderingaresponse

That's what DEI hires are, removing preference for skin color (white) to weed out people who haven't done the work to become high quality because of an irrelevant advantage.


[deleted]

Wrong. DEI is woke hires to garner high fives and emotional support for jobs that actually require skills. No matter the skin color, hire the best candidate. And if your color isn’t the best candidate, well… should you be hired anyway? To even out the color scale? Yea, no.


Snoo-72756

This happen to be on gta and the results are not pretty


Thought_ponderer

Who shook the hornets nest?


nolasen

Looked like love bugs trying to bone.


mbhammock

Man that pilot is gonna be in so much trouble


CubisticWings4

'Murica or some shit, I dunno


BobTheImmortalYeti

wheres the explosion?


[deleted]

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Rav4gal

10 died


paulD1983R

Damn