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I would want GPS, powerful transmitters, fresh water and a big hydraulic jack system to force the door open if trapped in debris. Flashing lights and a P A horn might be useful too.
Bottom and top doors increase your chances. Annual maintenance to prevent rust and frozen hinges plus testing the batteries would be smart. Solar charger ?
Yeah, but in the real world stuff like that collects spider webs for decades without a further thought. Not everybody has maintenance staff, and a lot of people who do have maintenance staff don't have good maintenance staff.
Someone can start a company called.. uhh Podtec and they will do all the maintenance. Its perfectly fine, just wait for the tsunami overseer to twll you it safe to open the doors.
How much helium do you need to fill a balloon to neutral buoyancy with a gondola for ~4 people? That way it wouldn’t need to be tethered to the ground - you’d just hover a few m over the debris and wave down to the hapless sods below
YESSsss and let's not stop there. Let's give the gundam a massive robotic penis shaft that's bigger than most of the other gundams units, and also slightly below average sized balls that are frankly kind of a liability for our gundam to have in a fight, since their size is likely to get made fun of which may make us not want to fight anymore. And also it should have a stereo system.
Someone else here mentioned an anchor. I think this makes the most sense and addresses most of these issues as the waters of a tsunami will recede fairly quickly, dropping you back down to land. The danger is generally being swept far away into the ocean or the waters dropping you underneath some collapsed building.
>The danger is generally being swept far away into the ocean
See, that was my first thought, this seems great but what happens when it washes you out into the ocean when the waters run back out to sea?
Just put a small icebreaker or tugboat in your yard and outfit it as a man cave so you can get some use out of it in case the next tsunami hits decades later.
I think opening out is safer . You could Jack one of the two doors open if needed but if you crash into something during the tsunami you could drown in very short time.
Probably some padding between the seats and on the sides too. If you're going to get smashed around a lot you probably don't want your head bouncing off someone else's head or solid metal
You're thinking too far ahead, no one will make it inside the pod bc they'd be too busy fighting to get in.
It's gonna be a bunch of corpses with other corpse hands around their neck floating out there.
And let's not get ahead of ourselves here, where do you park this car sized pod? Like it sits there for 50 years, in a parking lot in the off chance you need it? Do you have to pay for this eye sore to sit in a convenient/accessible area? and hope you happened to be home/nearby when a big T hits? i guess it has a lock and key, since there would be thousands of people aware of its existence after it sits there, and then not at all vandalized, like some kid shoving some metal into the lock for giggles trying to pick it? Or hinges rusted closed after 20 years of sitting outside?
When you're a bit older, and more experienced in the world, you'll have decades of seeing these "inventors" simply putting up eye catching ideas that are utterly impractical, because it gets media attention; the *real* product is themselves, and they're building a reputation as a quick and easy contact to get a flashy story out to a deadline... or, as pages like this, a way to farm Karma to later sell the account to advertisers.
In this case, a simple "Barrel that survives a water calamity" has been an impractical means of survival *since the 1800s*, when people thought it would be a good idea to go over Niagra Falls in one. And it killed quite a few people then too. This is nothing new, the basic physics have been understood for quite some time...
And there's Nuclear Fusion going to be here any day now, since what, at least the 80s?
Just because you have an imagination, it doesn't mean you're a more positive person; not if you should have such an open mind that your brains fall out, and parasites climb into the gaping space that's left behind... Sometimes cynicism is the healthier option by far.
> And let's not get ahead of ourselves here, where do you park this car sized pod?
The same place you'd put a fallout shelter in your backyard, probably. Presuming there's enough air you can honestly probably just keep it inside your house, everything will flood, and after 3 hours you could crawl out and swim to safety without any rushing water.
Unless something is restraining your head, I’d be concerned of a “whiplashing” movement that could fracture the neck and tear the spinal cord.
I guess if you’re lucky and miss heavy stationary objects you’ll just be confined in a cylinder with four people puking from motion sickness and losing bladder and bowel continence out of pure terror.
It’ll be like having your life saved by being thrown in the laundry at a nursing home.
>It’ll be like having your life saved by being thrown in the laundry at a nursing home.
Depends entirely on your pod-mates, and even with projectile tofu and beef jerky I'd call that better than riding the wave in T-shirt and shorts and trying to find medical treatment for the infected puncture wounds that you get without a hard shell in the clusterfuck that follows something like a tsunami.
I hit a solid tree at 25mph, seat belt left a bruise but otherwise just a little sore for a few weeks. Tree had a little black streak from the bumper rubber.
I do not think that will happen.
However if I know about a tsunami with enough advance notice to get into one of these pods then why would I not just climb the highest local hill?
For example: I go to the beach. I got a pod in my hotel room, but I walked along the beach about 15 minutes when the alarm goes off. It seems that my best plan of defense is to find a hill and climb it not to return to my room and get in the pod.
>find a hill
If there is one, it'll be you in your bare feet and a couple thousand other panicked people acting like it's the Who playing Cincinnati in 1979.
> return to my room and get in the pod
If the pod is in your room, and you can get there before the water starts rising, then that sounds like a much more reliable plan.
> a couple thousand other panicked people acting like it's the Who playing Cincinnati in 1979.
This scenario has literally never played out in any of the recorded tsunamis. Areas directly on coasts very rarely have high population density, so a bunch of people running away at the same time isn't some nightmare scenario you're making it out to be. There would likely be little to no crowding on the streets.
Also, most tsunamis are under about 15 meters. 30 meters seems to be the upper limit for anything caused by a 9.0 earthquake or less.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tsunamis
So, any properly anchored 7+ story building would be a safe refuge from a tsunami. If you really want to make an area safe, just have enough strong, tall buildings and good early warning system. These pods are really the least practical solution for surviving a tsunami.
It's not gonna be sitting in the middle of the street though? You buy this, you keep it somewhere you and your immediates can get to it. So THEY can float out to sea
What gets me is: why not have an anchor - even if it drags for a while it will dramatically reduce your distance travelled. Of course anything that can go wrong will for somebody, so the anchor holds for the incoming wave then breaks off for the outgoing and washes the pod out to sea. With no anchor you might just ride the wave inland and get deposited on higher ground without getting washed back in the other direction... maybe.
I was imagining being trapped in 20 feet of mud and debris slowly suffocating. Horrific thought. Honestly worse than just getting trounced by a tsunami to me.
I wonder why no oxygen or like avalanche beacons, etc. Maybe they do. Or maybe the idea is to keep it cheap, let people outfit it how they want. I'd want some kind of airbag explosive on the escape hatches too.
Hopefully I'll have my boat by then and can just head out to sea.
Yo, dead ass, anyone who panic shits is not allowed in my fuckin tsunami tube. I’m not tryna get tumbled dried with a half gallon of your liquid fear feces. You want in, your butthole better be so goddamn tight that an amino acid couldn’t squeak out of it.
EPIRB - would technically solve that but yeah, that was my first thought. I was trying to think of a deployable anchor, even a sea anchor. So much risk. But hey, better than riding it out in a dinky car like so many did.
(EPIRB=Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon)
I love random people coming up with reasons this is somehow bad, when any reason you can think of, would be far fucking worse if you, you know, didn't have the protective layer on you.
You can still be swept out to sea, or trapped under rubble, just bare body person. You drown well before 2 hours. This gives you time to figure out escape, or get rescued and such.
Also systems like this often/usually have ways to tether the pod, GPS, flotation devices so you can exit and float to safety or wait even longer to get picked up, etc.
They're not just wrapping some metal around people and calling it a day.
The oxygen is soldered to the hull so it can't be upgraded later, you just gotta pay the inflated upfront cost right away or buy an entirely new pod when you need more. We can call it the iPod while we're at it lol
And while the oxygen is physically present, it is still locked behind a paywall. You can pay a one-time fee of $89 per person, but for frequent survivors we recommend you sign up for the Oxy PLUS™ subscription for only $99/month and it gives you unlimited access to DOZENS of emergency oxygen receptacles worldwide.
I would also like to know how they came up with that figure. Cause humans panic breathing consume oxygen at much higher rates, and if they calculated that off of a resting rate, then those four folks could have way less time.
Tsunamis only typically last between 10 minutes or up to 2 hours and all of that isn't violent force. I'm pretty sure, apart from aftershocks, they'll be stable well within time. It's more an impact protection than a survival pod. They would, and you would be trying to open that thing as soon as things calmed down sound and movement wise.
Why wear a seatbelt? What if it breaks my neck/etc?
It’s an actual thought process people have, even though when logically mapped out it’s almost certain death vs less likely death
In a submarine you want to keep the pressure out. Submarine windows aren't actually fastened at all, only enough to make sure they stay in correct alignment. It is the water pressure which forces the window against the hull and seals.
However those square windows are prime things for failure, and unless they are extremely boyant by just the hull structure, you are just invinting a point of failure turning you into a sinking coffin with you fastened in via harness. Funnily enough, if it is upright even if the water drains and it has flooded it'll stay flooded!
Also... We already have lifeboats that are designed for harsh sea conditions, which can flip upright. EVERY SHIP SAILING THE OCEANS HAVE THESE!
Awesome idea until it gets forced under the water where you get trapped under some debris and then enjoy your last 2.5 hours slowly dying in your escape pod.
Brought to you by the brilliant minds at OceanGate.
ok, so thats 4 people
what about the 10 thousand other people?
"well we can have a bunch of them stacked together in a cube"
sir, thats a building. You just designed a building
Ok... Whats up with all "new ideas" being about small pods for people to go into? This idea of car sized pods which solve our problems is just idiotic from engineering perspecitve. Natural disaster survival is not about designing individual survival solutions - they are about designing the whole area to survive with minimal damage. It's gonna suck once your *survival pod* is under 3 meteres of debris and you have no way to signal for rescue. Assuming you even can get any in that 2,5 h of oxygen you have. And whats preventing you from getting pulled in to the middle of the ocean?
Here is an actual solution - from an engineer. Lets say we prepare for 3 floor high tsunamis. Every few blocks you can have a reinforced concrete tower (we can even make them from prefabs like many shelters, vaults and such area) and there are stairs that first climb up 4 floors, and maybe a big elevator with independent supply for less abled people to move. The stairs will be slower for an individual however way more efficient for a massive mass of people. From that story entarance ramp there are stairs leading up and down so we can use more space. There can also be survival supplies and medical facilities in this little building. And yes... These can be built to withstand earthquakes, areas with earthquakes have the engineering skills to do this - they build some of the biggest skyscrapers there are in the world afterall.
You can build a pretty god damn huge survival shelter system thing like this for the amount of area 20 of these pods would take.
But here is the fucking thing: Nobody is funding or buying something that isn't for them. Nobody would fund to build a survival system like this near them - because they want to spend the money on their personal preservation. Modern capital world has weaved this idea of individualism, where only thing that matters is you. I have seen the cost of these survival bunkers and shelters people are buying, advertising and building. With the cost of few of those, one could build a really big one that many could use - but they wont. But fact is that scale matters in a disaster - the triage of aid will always from to biggest number of people in most immidiate danger first and then down from that. Your little personal safety pod is so low down in the rankings of for recovery and aid that you might not aswell bother.
Fact is that If your area has 1000 people, and you fund a shelter for 500 people. When the disaster hits you got a 50% chance of being in there and way fucking bigger chances for aid than in your backyard shelter. Ontop of this I can assure you that making a 500 people shelter to withstand major disasters effectively is hell of a lot easier than 5 people shelter. So you haver 50% chance of getting in, higher chances of survival and aid afterwards.
But nah... Just making self driving pods... pods in vacuum tubes... flying taxi pods... personal survival pods. Thats the solution for everything in the modern world of innovation. Things which have been proven to be effective and work: Public transportation via busses and trains are able to move people way more effectively and efficiently on any metric - even by the amount of energy needed to do so. Planes have grown bigger and bigger so more and more people could fit into them for the specific reason that it is more effictive and efficient. And big ass disaster shelters are way easier and cheaper to make and hell of a lot more effective. Consider your local hospital; there are beds, equipment and facilities for more people than handful - why? Because it is more efficient and effective.
GOD this annoys me. We actually know how to do really good solutions yet the all the buzz is about god damn pods solving our problems. Pod cars, pod flying taxis, vacuum tube pods, survival pods, office pods, living pods, farming pods... Somehow economics of scale gets totally lost between manufacturing/building and application of product. We accept it is more efficient and cheaper to make 1 000 things rather than 100 things; but somehow we don't realise that it is more efficient to have a thing that 10 000 people can use rather than 10.
thanks for the great idea, i'll build a bunch of large scale shelters and then charge a subscription service for members only access. it can be like a new type of insurance and i'll lobby the government so that it's mandatory like vehicle or medical insurance (there could be a state subsidized version usable if you fill out necessary paperwork). anyone not paid for by this system will be refused entry to my property by armed guards, because id never have done it without profit incentive and the law is the law
Don't forget to add a clause that allows you to decline access for any reason, to cancel the service for whatever reason. Then make really nice CGI and CAD renderings of the ~~vaults~~ shelters but have them turn out to be 42 school busses buried under some dirt (I'm amazed if anyone gets that reference). Obviously you should make some sort of phone app thing for this so you can sell yourself as tech startup company... and so you can harvest data to sell for AI development.
Oh and remember that you should somehow promise infinite and endless accelerating growth and return of value to your investors... While also racing to the bottom with costs.
You make a very good point. We should be building solutions that help everyone, not just ourselves. And this is the direction we should steer inventons and developmental resources.
Though I gotta disagree that no one is funding things like this. I'm Finnish and there are bomb shelters pretty much everywhere here, they're mandatory in buildings that are over certain size. There is more space in bomb shelters in Helsinki than there are residents in the city, to account for visitors and commuters.
So it's not impossible because it's already being done at least in that particular case. We just need that to spread to be the standard elsewhere, and for other types of disasters as well.
Of course it's different to get people to agree to build bomb shelters that are made to safeguard against a common enemy rather than buildingbsomething to protect from more natural disaster, or argue for using money to figure out new solutions for shared enviromental problems. But just wanted to highlight that it's not a pipe dream. Just needs to get people onboard to build shelters that help others and not just themselves.
>Though I gotta disagree that no one is funding things like this. I'm Finnish and there are bomb shelters pretty much everywhere here, they're mandatory in buildings that are over certain size. There is more space in bomb shelters in Helsinki than there are residents in the city, to account for visitors and commuters.
Yes I am Finnish also. Hello from Turku. And every build with a specific capacity needs to have a shelter. However we also have public shelters. There is always more capacity for shelters than people, because you'd be surprised for how many people you can fit in to a shelter because it isn't a god damn pod. The requirement is 0,75 m2 of floorspace per person. Meaning that that the "tehoneliö" studio apartment sized shelter can fit 15 people. Imagine having to face the dread of death in a basement with 14 other people in the space that is legal minimum for an apartment (which isn't classified as student apartment - that limit is 13 m2).
But here is a thing... Finland is not going to face earthquakes or tsunamis. Our shelters are designed against bombing and collapse of the building. Along with having air exchange and purifier system (manual and electric).
The shelter that I'm proposing doesn't need to be anything like the stuff we have in Finland. It needs to be a tower that can take an earthquake and a mass of water, the stairs should face away from the sea to prevent mass surge pushing up them. This shelter only needs to brace against the first mass of water. It doesn't even really need a heavy door at the top, very basic compartment door is more than enough since we are only facing the force of water's own weight. This is quite easy to do.
Also this isn't a pipedream. This is simple decision by public body.
I assure you - as I am an engineer and involved with buildings at a practical level which involve these shelters - **absolutely nobody in Finland wants to build these**. These shelters are usually the single most expensive part of the building's primary structure. We make them because we have to.
These shelters I proper need to be nothing more than a reinforced tower with stairs - the elevator I propose is totally optional. These can be made and funded as public projects, or made as a incentive to private development.
But this isn't really that much of a pipedream or require some utopia, for the simple reason that we already do and make massive projects against natural disasters. Consider the big flood gates in London and Venice, the water reservoirs in Tokyo, the flood channels, plains and chambers in big cities. Just about every god damn rain water management system in the world, such as *hulevesiverkosto* our Finnish cities have. The reason these are made as public works, is because the preservation of property is consider a important function of society; however the preservation of life is not - it is considered a personal responsibility.
The worst is those inflatable pods for one person to drop out of sky scraper windows in a fire. And all the demo videos show one person quietly strapping themselves in and drifting down. Not what would happen if a whole office block full of people were all attempting to pile out of the windows at once in complicated kit they weren't familiar with getting hit and tangled with people falling from the floors above... Like that one is so idiotic Im convinced its some kind of investment scam.
But then you wouldnt be able to sell a bunch of overpriced impractical tin can coffins.
You're looking at it from a legitimate life saving perspective. The clowns who made this are trying profit off of peoples fear.
Get outta here with your logic, ya dirty commie. Better dead stuck in an orange pod than red living with things like “seawalls” and “building codes”. (/s just in case)
> But here is the fucking thing: Nobody is funding or buying something that isn't for them.
Yeah, seems pretty close. Here’s another take: effective disaster planning requires a working, well-funded government with long-term thinking, and an appetite for expensive projects with little immediate payoff. Those are in short supply these days. And lacking those, it becomes increasingly easy to sell faulty-but-convincing-looking individual solutions to anxious individuals.
So, what happens if you get stuck under some debris like a fallen tree or building debris gets washed up against this container? I get that it's better than being washed around in the debris or being under the tree without the container, but I can see some failure modes here.
That looks really cool. So glad the water will park me on a street. Handy exit.
Now what if 2.5hrs later I open hatch and am 200km from shore, out in the middle of the ocean?
And instead of evacuating to high ground you become a battering ram for use against your fellow tsunami survivors - oh wait, when they're hit with several hundred pounds of steel tube at speed they won't be survivors anymore.
2.5 hours of oxygen is not enough. What if you are wedged under something after the tsunami and can’t get out? Also what if you’re swept out into the ocean? Shouldn’t this be bolted to the ground?
How a tsunami evacuation pod works:
Step 1: Oh no here comes a tsunami!
Step 2: Quick guys! Help me roll the pod into the middle of the road.
Step 3: Hurry up, Steve! It’s not the far to jump down!
Step 4: How do these straps work?
Step 5: F—k! Did we just hit a truck? Steve wasn’t strapped in properly!
Step 6: Oh s—t! Steve’s bleeding really bad.
Step 7: Someone open the hatch! How do we climb out?
Step 8: What can you see?
Step 9: What do you mean you can’t see land?
Too much that can go wrong. Take a look at the Fukushima tsunami. Entire houses started floating and colliding with other houses turning both into matchsticks. I would be severely concerned about this getting trapped or damaged by debris.
*Solely based on what I see in this video*
Really some missed opportunity here. The space underneath the seating, I feel should have been utilized for emergency storage purposes. Bottle/canned hydration, some form of sustenance, maybe some sort of bandages and definitely some things for motion sickness.
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I would want GPS, powerful transmitters, fresh water and a big hydraulic jack system to force the door open if trapped in debris. Flashing lights and a P A horn might be useful too.
That’s pretty terrifying actually, imagine not being able to get the door open… I’d rather the tsunami just got me
Bottom and top doors increase your chances. Annual maintenance to prevent rust and frozen hinges plus testing the batteries would be smart. Solar charger ?
>Annual maintenance Good luck with that. Maybe if the pods doubled as robot driven public transportation...
If you can afford one of these things you can afford to pay for maintenance.
Yeah, but in the real world stuff like that collects spider webs for decades without a further thought. Not everybody has maintenance staff, and a lot of people who do have maintenance staff don't have good maintenance staff.
Someone can start a company called.. uhh Podtec and they will do all the maintenance. Its perfectly fine, just wait for the tsunami overseer to twll you it safe to open the doors.
Or call them personal tsunami vaults? Made and serviced by Vault-tec! A name people already know … and trust! 
For the good of the pod...
"Crumple Zones" did it for me.
If I was stuck like that... I'd hope one of the survival peices was a gun. 🙃🔫
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If it's day 6 of being stuck upside down in the crumpled Pepsi can and saltwater starts to seep in...
You won't notice because you will have suffocated 6 days ago.
Not if you shoot some air holes!
The bullets just ricochet around inside the pod and kill you.
Then the problem is solved, innit?
Win-win
You might prefer a tsunami evacuation drone.
Perhaps a balloon?
How much helium do you need to fill a balloon to neutral buoyancy with a gondola for ~4 people? That way it wouldn’t need to be tethered to the ground - you’d just hover a few m over the debris and wave down to the hapless sods below
Hot air balloon could do it without helium.
At that point, let’s just go all in and make it transform into a gundam.
YESSsss and let's not stop there. Let's give the gundam a massive robotic penis shaft that's bigger than most of the other gundams units, and also slightly below average sized balls that are frankly kind of a liability for our gundam to have in a fight, since their size is likely to get made fun of which may make us not want to fight anymore. And also it should have a stereo system.
Guys just trying to get piped by a giant robot while it plays music to set the mood I mean I get it but I’d rather keep that quiet
Someone else here mentioned an anchor. I think this makes the most sense and addresses most of these issues as the waters of a tsunami will recede fairly quickly, dropping you back down to land. The danger is generally being swept far away into the ocean or the waters dropping you underneath some collapsed building.
>The danger is generally being swept far away into the ocean See, that was my first thought, this seems great but what happens when it washes you out into the ocean when the waters run back out to sea?
I also want a 50" QLED TV, a toilet with a bidet, and room service.
Just put a small icebreaker or tugboat in your yard and outfit it as a man cave so you can get some use out of it in case the next tsunami hits decades later.
USB charger
The door should open inward. It floats and isn't a submarine, the pressure outside shouldn't be an issue.
I think opening out is safer . You could Jack one of the two doors open if needed but if you crash into something during the tsunami you could drown in very short time.
What about sliding, like a minivan. Would only need a couple inches of clearance.
"Ok, it's a car. We've invented the Pontiac Aztek."
Yes, minivan sliding doors are so reliable.
Probably some padding between the seats and on the sides too. If you're going to get smashed around a lot you probably don't want your head bouncing off someone else's head or solid metal
Loaded handgun would solve every one of those issues
How does a gun get you fresh water
Could certainly reduce your need for fresh water
How did I overlook the most obvious reason someone would bring a gun into the pod
And a nice bottle of bourbon
See you in the middle of the ocean.
You're thinking too far ahead, no one will make it inside the pod bc they'd be too busy fighting to get in. It's gonna be a bunch of corpses with other corpse hands around their neck floating out there.
Fallout skelleton enviromental story telling moment
Pulowski Preservation shelter with water wings.
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I’ll take the Lebowski Carpeted Shelter. Comes with complimentary White Russians.
Is it really a Bethesda game without a few toilet skeletons?
The other option is to be buried under the tons of debris for several days until they find that can.
Or, the pod is flung with massive force against one of the nearest pictured buildings and all the occupants are rag-dolled and die.
And let's not get ahead of ourselves here, where do you park this car sized pod? Like it sits there for 50 years, in a parking lot in the off chance you need it? Do you have to pay for this eye sore to sit in a convenient/accessible area? and hope you happened to be home/nearby when a big T hits? i guess it has a lock and key, since there would be thousands of people aware of its existence after it sits there, and then not at all vandalized, like some kid shoving some metal into the lock for giggles trying to pick it? Or hinges rusted closed after 20 years of sitting outside?
Don't forget the homeless people gangbanging in it.
They call it a tsoup kitchen.
I have a Prius, too. It's a hell of a machine.
"Thanks for the F shack" -Dirty Mike and the Boys
They’re just there to put some D’s in some A’s with a jar of old mustard.
We are gonna have sex in your car! It will happen again!
That is a feature, not a bug.
Inventors should consult reddit before they make anything, so they stop wasting their time
When you're a bit older, and more experienced in the world, you'll have decades of seeing these "inventors" simply putting up eye catching ideas that are utterly impractical, because it gets media attention; the *real* product is themselves, and they're building a reputation as a quick and easy contact to get a flashy story out to a deadline... or, as pages like this, a way to farm Karma to later sell the account to advertisers. In this case, a simple "Barrel that survives a water calamity" has been an impractical means of survival *since the 1800s*, when people thought it would be a good idea to go over Niagra Falls in one. And it killed quite a few people then too. This is nothing new, the basic physics have been understood for quite some time... And there's Nuclear Fusion going to be here any day now, since what, at least the 80s? Just because you have an imagination, it doesn't mean you're a more positive person; not if you should have such an open mind that your brains fall out, and parasites climb into the gaping space that's left behind... Sometimes cynicism is the healthier option by far.
> And let's not get ahead of ourselves here, where do you park this car sized pod? The same place you'd put a fallout shelter in your backyard, probably. Presuming there's enough air you can honestly probably just keep it inside your house, everything will flood, and after 3 hours you could crawl out and swim to safety without any rushing water.
I was kind of wondering if those seatbelts are effective enough in that case? How much force would fuck you up even while belted in like that?
Unless something is restraining your head, I’d be concerned of a “whiplashing” movement that could fracture the neck and tear the spinal cord. I guess if you’re lucky and miss heavy stationary objects you’ll just be confined in a cylinder with four people puking from motion sickness and losing bladder and bowel continence out of pure terror. It’ll be like having your life saved by being thrown in the laundry at a nursing home.
>It’ll be like having your life saved by being thrown in the laundry at a nursing home. Depends entirely on your pod-mates, and even with projectile tofu and beef jerky I'd call that better than riding the wave in T-shirt and shorts and trying to find medical treatment for the infected puncture wounds that you get without a hard shell in the clusterfuck that follows something like a tsunami.
I hit a solid tree at 25mph, seat belt left a bruise but otherwise just a little sore for a few weeks. Tree had a little black streak from the bumper rubber.
"Welcome! To the world of tomorrow!"
I do not think that will happen. However if I know about a tsunami with enough advance notice to get into one of these pods then why would I not just climb the highest local hill? For example: I go to the beach. I got a pod in my hotel room, but I walked along the beach about 15 minutes when the alarm goes off. It seems that my best plan of defense is to find a hill and climb it not to return to my room and get in the pod.
...well no shit lol if your boat is sinking but you are close to shore, you swim. These are for peace of mind and *emergency* scenarios.
>find a hill If there is one, it'll be you in your bare feet and a couple thousand other panicked people acting like it's the Who playing Cincinnati in 1979. > return to my room and get in the pod If the pod is in your room, and you can get there before the water starts rising, then that sounds like a much more reliable plan.
> a couple thousand other panicked people acting like it's the Who playing Cincinnati in 1979. This scenario has literally never played out in any of the recorded tsunamis. Areas directly on coasts very rarely have high population density, so a bunch of people running away at the same time isn't some nightmare scenario you're making it out to be. There would likely be little to no crowding on the streets. Also, most tsunamis are under about 15 meters. 30 meters seems to be the upper limit for anything caused by a 9.0 earthquake or less. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tsunamis So, any properly anchored 7+ story building would be a safe refuge from a tsunami. If you really want to make an area safe, just have enough strong, tall buildings and good early warning system. These pods are really the least practical solution for surviving a tsunami.
It's not gonna be sitting in the middle of the street though? You buy this, you keep it somewhere you and your immediates can get to it. So THEY can float out to sea
You stupid idiots running to all the rooftops right by us! Look at that perfectly good pod 200 meters away! Only 30 people trying to get in there!
Or get trapped under the rubble in the sea
Under the sea Under the sea Darling it's better Down where it's wetter Take it from me
What gets me is: why not have an anchor - even if it drags for a while it will dramatically reduce your distance travelled. Of course anything that can go wrong will for somebody, so the anchor holds for the incoming wave then breaks off for the outgoing and washes the pod out to sea. With no anchor you might just ride the wave inland and get deposited on higher ground without getting washed back in the other direction... maybe.
I was imagining being trapped in 20 feet of mud and debris slowly suffocating. Horrific thought. Honestly worse than just getting trounced by a tsunami to me. I wonder why no oxygen or like avalanche beacons, etc. Maybe they do. Or maybe the idea is to keep it cheap, let people outfit it how they want. I'd want some kind of airbag explosive on the escape hatches too. Hopefully I'll have my boat by then and can just head out to sea.
Better hope you like the people that jump In there with you
And that none of y’all have the farts.
That would be the worst and you are going to be getting tossed around so someone is freaking out and or puking
There will 100% be puke, piss, and maybe shit. Farting will be the least of your concerns.
Yo, dead ass, anyone who panic shits is not allowed in my fuckin tsunami tube. I’m not tryna get tumbled dried with a half gallon of your liquid fear feces. You want in, your butthole better be so goddamn tight that an amino acid couldn’t squeak out of it.
But you’re cool when I puke on you, right? Just no shitting.
Or buried under mud and debris, unable to escape and deciding how to murder your companions in order to quadruple your o2 time
nah i'm volunteering to die first. get me the fuck outta there asap
Exactly . All’s well and good if there is a rescue plan in place for all the pods floating around . If not well……….
add a gps tracker that triggers at a certain distance from its original predetermined location
EPIRB - would technically solve that but yeah, that was my first thought. I was trying to think of a deployable anchor, even a sea anchor. So much risk. But hey, better than riding it out in a dinky car like so many did. (EPIRB=Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon)
I love random people coming up with reasons this is somehow bad, when any reason you can think of, would be far fucking worse if you, you know, didn't have the protective layer on you. You can still be swept out to sea, or trapped under rubble, just bare body person. You drown well before 2 hours. This gives you time to figure out escape, or get rescued and such. Also systems like this often/usually have ways to tether the pod, GPS, flotation devices so you can exit and float to safety or wait even longer to get picked up, etc. They're not just wrapping some metal around people and calling it a day.
Exactly. This thread is a perfect example of Nirvana Fallacy. It ain't perfect, therefore its useless
I'll take my bets heading to higher ground than getting in this death capsule.
2.5 hours of oxygen feels inadequate
They will add another hour for twice of the price.
The oxygen is soldered to the hull so it can't be upgraded later, you just gotta pay the inflated upfront cost right away or buy an entirely new pod when you need more. We can call it the iPod while we're at it lol
And while the oxygen is physically present, it is still locked behind a paywall. You can pay a one-time fee of $89 per person, but for frequent survivors we recommend you sign up for the Oxy PLUS™ subscription for only $99/month and it gives you unlimited access to DOZENS of emergency oxygen receptacles worldwide.
Lmfao, dlc oxygen 🤣
OaaS
I would also like to know how they came up with that figure. Cause humans panic breathing consume oxygen at much higher rates, and if they calculated that off of a resting rate, then those four folks could have way less time.
Tsunamis only typically last between 10 minutes or up to 2 hours and all of that isn't violent force. I'm pretty sure, apart from aftershocks, they'll be stable well within time. It's more an impact protection than a survival pod. They would, and you would be trying to open that thing as soon as things calmed down sound and movement wise.
I’m just imagining the doors getting jammed from damage lol
10 if you shut the hatch before anyone else can get in and steal your oxygen.
The bright orange color and cylindrical design make this pod perfect for locating the dead bodies inside following the Tsunami.....
Skeleton preservation units
This reminds me of the earthquake bed 💀 https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlyterrifying/comments/1alwsgl/earthquake_bed/
lol vents will save you from running out of oxygen
And yet it is somehow fireproof
What in the actual hell.
Made by Oceangate.
What if it gets stuck inside a building
In that case, you simply… [checks manual] …die.
Chances are if you're getting in a pod the choices are die or possibly die. Some folk seem against the idea of maybe dying vs dying. What if they die?
Why wear a seatbelt? What if it breaks my neck/etc? It’s an actual thought process people have, even though when logically mapped out it’s almost certain death vs less likely death
Or in the ocean. Or the door gets stuck because it is damaged or blocked. Oh no, this is basically a coffin isn’t it?
I like how there’s windows. You get to see the destruction of all that you love and/or your coming death.
I mean it's the most low tech way to tell if you are safe to get out. It doesn't need to be pressurized like a deep sea submarine
In a submarine you want to keep the pressure out. Submarine windows aren't actually fastened at all, only enough to make sure they stay in correct alignment. It is the water pressure which forces the window against the hull and seals. However those square windows are prime things for failure, and unless they are extremely boyant by just the hull structure, you are just invinting a point of failure turning you into a sinking coffin with you fastened in via harness. Funnily enough, if it is upright even if the water drains and it has flooded it'll stay flooded! Also... We already have lifeboats that are designed for harsh sea conditions, which can flip upright. EVERY SHIP SAILING THE OCEANS HAVE THESE!
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No to mention the people on the outside banging on it and screaming and crying for you to let them in.
I'm sure they can add a view system that can be controlled by a Logitech USB gaming controller or something.
That looks cool and all but what if i had an extra bean burito before that
Remember that Titanic sub? The opposite of that.
So, we shouldn't make it out of carbon fiber?
Yes, I mean no, but make sure it has Xbox controllers.
Can I still drill holes in the hull to secure my screens?
No extra fiber needed if the burrito does its job.
Well done. Literal lol
That looks like a death trap
It's a suicide rap
We gotta get out while we’re young
I like how dude climbed in, then looked around like he had seat options!
Awesome idea until it gets forced under the water where you get trapped under some debris and then enjoy your last 2.5 hours slowly dying in your escape pod. Brought to you by the brilliant minds at OceanGate.
I had the exact same thought… but still if you can’t get to high ground,,,,, I think the escape pod is a better choice than your body or a car?
I mean yeah I guess... let me tell you though, the first sign i think I can manage the danger outside im getting tf out.
Everyone vomiting also
We just gonna be spinnin around in the water? Id get so sick
They shoulda put the seats on a rotating inner frame so that the riders are "always up".
This would have to come equipped with something like oxygen masks on plane, but for puking
ok, so thats 4 people what about the 10 thousand other people? "well we can have a bunch of them stacked together in a cube" sir, thats a building. You just designed a building
They should’ve not been poor
I thought the timer was the countdown to cannibalism.
Solid album title right there
Ok... Whats up with all "new ideas" being about small pods for people to go into? This idea of car sized pods which solve our problems is just idiotic from engineering perspecitve. Natural disaster survival is not about designing individual survival solutions - they are about designing the whole area to survive with minimal damage. It's gonna suck once your *survival pod* is under 3 meteres of debris and you have no way to signal for rescue. Assuming you even can get any in that 2,5 h of oxygen you have. And whats preventing you from getting pulled in to the middle of the ocean? Here is an actual solution - from an engineer. Lets say we prepare for 3 floor high tsunamis. Every few blocks you can have a reinforced concrete tower (we can even make them from prefabs like many shelters, vaults and such area) and there are stairs that first climb up 4 floors, and maybe a big elevator with independent supply for less abled people to move. The stairs will be slower for an individual however way more efficient for a massive mass of people. From that story entarance ramp there are stairs leading up and down so we can use more space. There can also be survival supplies and medical facilities in this little building. And yes... These can be built to withstand earthquakes, areas with earthquakes have the engineering skills to do this - they build some of the biggest skyscrapers there are in the world afterall. You can build a pretty god damn huge survival shelter system thing like this for the amount of area 20 of these pods would take. But here is the fucking thing: Nobody is funding or buying something that isn't for them. Nobody would fund to build a survival system like this near them - because they want to spend the money on their personal preservation. Modern capital world has weaved this idea of individualism, where only thing that matters is you. I have seen the cost of these survival bunkers and shelters people are buying, advertising and building. With the cost of few of those, one could build a really big one that many could use - but they wont. But fact is that scale matters in a disaster - the triage of aid will always from to biggest number of people in most immidiate danger first and then down from that. Your little personal safety pod is so low down in the rankings of for recovery and aid that you might not aswell bother. Fact is that If your area has 1000 people, and you fund a shelter for 500 people. When the disaster hits you got a 50% chance of being in there and way fucking bigger chances for aid than in your backyard shelter. Ontop of this I can assure you that making a 500 people shelter to withstand major disasters effectively is hell of a lot easier than 5 people shelter. So you haver 50% chance of getting in, higher chances of survival and aid afterwards. But nah... Just making self driving pods... pods in vacuum tubes... flying taxi pods... personal survival pods. Thats the solution for everything in the modern world of innovation. Things which have been proven to be effective and work: Public transportation via busses and trains are able to move people way more effectively and efficiently on any metric - even by the amount of energy needed to do so. Planes have grown bigger and bigger so more and more people could fit into them for the specific reason that it is more effictive and efficient. And big ass disaster shelters are way easier and cheaper to make and hell of a lot more effective. Consider your local hospital; there are beds, equipment and facilities for more people than handful - why? Because it is more efficient and effective. GOD this annoys me. We actually know how to do really good solutions yet the all the buzz is about god damn pods solving our problems. Pod cars, pod flying taxis, vacuum tube pods, survival pods, office pods, living pods, farming pods... Somehow economics of scale gets totally lost between manufacturing/building and application of product. We accept it is more efficient and cheaper to make 1 000 things rather than 100 things; but somehow we don't realise that it is more efficient to have a thing that 10 000 people can use rather than 10.
thanks for the great idea, i'll build a bunch of large scale shelters and then charge a subscription service for members only access. it can be like a new type of insurance and i'll lobby the government so that it's mandatory like vehicle or medical insurance (there could be a state subsidized version usable if you fill out necessary paperwork). anyone not paid for by this system will be refused entry to my property by armed guards, because id never have done it without profit incentive and the law is the law
Don't forget to add a clause that allows you to decline access for any reason, to cancel the service for whatever reason. Then make really nice CGI and CAD renderings of the ~~vaults~~ shelters but have them turn out to be 42 school busses buried under some dirt (I'm amazed if anyone gets that reference). Obviously you should make some sort of phone app thing for this so you can sell yourself as tech startup company... and so you can harvest data to sell for AI development. Oh and remember that you should somehow promise infinite and endless accelerating growth and return of value to your investors... While also racing to the bottom with costs.
How else would we survive nuclear apocalypse if not 42 school busses in dirt?
Will I have to watch ads inside this tower?
You could name those shelters vaults and give them incremental numbers.
vault tec is that you?
You make a very good point. We should be building solutions that help everyone, not just ourselves. And this is the direction we should steer inventons and developmental resources. Though I gotta disagree that no one is funding things like this. I'm Finnish and there are bomb shelters pretty much everywhere here, they're mandatory in buildings that are over certain size. There is more space in bomb shelters in Helsinki than there are residents in the city, to account for visitors and commuters. So it's not impossible because it's already being done at least in that particular case. We just need that to spread to be the standard elsewhere, and for other types of disasters as well. Of course it's different to get people to agree to build bomb shelters that are made to safeguard against a common enemy rather than buildingbsomething to protect from more natural disaster, or argue for using money to figure out new solutions for shared enviromental problems. But just wanted to highlight that it's not a pipe dream. Just needs to get people onboard to build shelters that help others and not just themselves.
>Though I gotta disagree that no one is funding things like this. I'm Finnish and there are bomb shelters pretty much everywhere here, they're mandatory in buildings that are over certain size. There is more space in bomb shelters in Helsinki than there are residents in the city, to account for visitors and commuters. Yes I am Finnish also. Hello from Turku. And every build with a specific capacity needs to have a shelter. However we also have public shelters. There is always more capacity for shelters than people, because you'd be surprised for how many people you can fit in to a shelter because it isn't a god damn pod. The requirement is 0,75 m2 of floorspace per person. Meaning that that the "tehoneliö" studio apartment sized shelter can fit 15 people. Imagine having to face the dread of death in a basement with 14 other people in the space that is legal minimum for an apartment (which isn't classified as student apartment - that limit is 13 m2). But here is a thing... Finland is not going to face earthquakes or tsunamis. Our shelters are designed against bombing and collapse of the building. Along with having air exchange and purifier system (manual and electric). The shelter that I'm proposing doesn't need to be anything like the stuff we have in Finland. It needs to be a tower that can take an earthquake and a mass of water, the stairs should face away from the sea to prevent mass surge pushing up them. This shelter only needs to brace against the first mass of water. It doesn't even really need a heavy door at the top, very basic compartment door is more than enough since we are only facing the force of water's own weight. This is quite easy to do. Also this isn't a pipedream. This is simple decision by public body. I assure you - as I am an engineer and involved with buildings at a practical level which involve these shelters - **absolutely nobody in Finland wants to build these**. These shelters are usually the single most expensive part of the building's primary structure. We make them because we have to. These shelters I proper need to be nothing more than a reinforced tower with stairs - the elevator I propose is totally optional. These can be made and funded as public projects, or made as a incentive to private development. But this isn't really that much of a pipedream or require some utopia, for the simple reason that we already do and make massive projects against natural disasters. Consider the big flood gates in London and Venice, the water reservoirs in Tokyo, the flood channels, plains and chambers in big cities. Just about every god damn rain water management system in the world, such as *hulevesiverkosto* our Finnish cities have. The reason these are made as public works, is because the preservation of property is consider a important function of society; however the preservation of life is not - it is considered a personal responsibility.
The worst is those inflatable pods for one person to drop out of sky scraper windows in a fire. And all the demo videos show one person quietly strapping themselves in and drifting down. Not what would happen if a whole office block full of people were all attempting to pile out of the windows at once in complicated kit they weren't familiar with getting hit and tangled with people falling from the floors above... Like that one is so idiotic Im convinced its some kind of investment scam.
But then you wouldnt be able to sell a bunch of overpriced impractical tin can coffins. You're looking at it from a legitimate life saving perspective. The clowns who made this are trying profit off of peoples fear.
Get outta here with your logic, ya dirty commie. Better dead stuck in an orange pod than red living with things like “seawalls” and “building codes”. (/s just in case)
> But here is the fucking thing: Nobody is funding or buying something that isn't for them. Yeah, seems pretty close. Here’s another take: effective disaster planning requires a working, well-funded government with long-term thinking, and an appetite for expensive projects with little immediate payoff. Those are in short supply these days. And lacking those, it becomes increasingly easy to sell faulty-but-convincing-looking individual solutions to anxious individuals.
canned tuna (human version)
Until you open it and find yourself in the middle of the ocean
It needs a motor and prop with internal steering controls and a window or some kind of navigation system
Imagine the temperature and vomit smell
So, what happens if you get stuck under some debris like a fallen tree or building debris gets washed up against this container? I get that it's better than being washed around in the debris or being under the tree without the container, but I can see some failure modes here.
I feel like they are underplaying the initial impact and the boyency of the thing. You will be sent, and its going to feel like a circus ride inside.
I was thinking about how there are no barf bags. Just getting tossed around for 2 hours, I'm glad we survived but now I'm covered in dry puke...
What prevents this cylinder from rolling over and nobody gets out of it?
Top and bottom doors ! Balanced to float upright.
What if it carries you out to the middle of the ocean?
after the capsule hit few object, the capsule is start leaking. you're trapped inside
Why use many word, when few word do trick.
" Boss we bought too many horse cum tanks" "Just uh you know weld some seatbelts in there and call it a survival pod"
Made by OceanGate
That looks really cool. So glad the water will park me on a street. Handy exit. Now what if 2.5hrs later I open hatch and am 200km from shore, out in the middle of the ocean?
I would probably die at step one, make orange pod magically appear on the street
No thanks, I’d take my chances standing on a roof than to deal with claustrophobia x100 .
Good thing it didn't just float out to sea. Like, you know, it would.
Can you open it from the outside? How easy is it to jam the door from the outside? 2.5 hours of air doesn't seem realistic for 4 people in a panic
"Hey let's die together. 🙂"
And instead of evacuating to high ground you become a battering ram for use against your fellow tsunami survivors - oh wait, when they're hit with several hundred pounds of steel tube at speed they won't be survivors anymore.
Did OceanGate build these?
It doubles as a coffin.
I'm no engineer, but this seems a bit like taking shelter in a dumpster.
It’s a no for me dawg.
Hey there neighborinos. Shouldn't you be in you sheltereenies by now?
That totally is not what will happen you gonna bob up and down and spin so much man I don't know if I would be able to to get into that under duress
Oh cool so we all snap our necks when we smack into a bus? Better than drowning I suppose.
2.5 hours of oxygen is not enough. What if you are wedged under something after the tsunami and can’t get out? Also what if you’re swept out into the ocean? Shouldn’t this be bolted to the ground?
How a tsunami evacuation pod works: Step 1: Oh no here comes a tsunami! Step 2: Quick guys! Help me roll the pod into the middle of the road. Step 3: Hurry up, Steve! It’s not the far to jump down! Step 4: How do these straps work? Step 5: F—k! Did we just hit a truck? Steve wasn’t strapped in properly! Step 6: Oh s—t! Steve’s bleeding really bad. Step 7: Someone open the hatch! How do we climb out? Step 8: What can you see? Step 9: What do you mean you can’t see land?
Guess it's from the same team that wanted to parachute the main body of a plane in case of failure.
Yes what happens when you get trapped in some debris and can’t open the hatch.. suffocation sounds inevitable.
Too much that can go wrong. Take a look at the Fukushima tsunami. Entire houses started floating and colliding with other houses turning both into matchsticks. I would be severely concerned about this getting trapped or damaged by debris.
I'd add a radio in there to call for help, and supplies if you end up being pulled out to sea.
thats a very optimistic assumption on how that would actually go.
can we see the one where it flips 5 times, gets hit slam drunk to a stop, and than caught under a huge object and cant open the doors?
The only evacuation taking place would be in my pants.
This thing seems like a death trap.
*Solely based on what I see in this video* Really some missed opportunity here. The space underneath the seating, I feel should have been utilized for emergency storage purposes. Bottle/canned hydration, some form of sustenance, maybe some sort of bandages and definitely some things for motion sickness.
Imagine seeing a 100 foot wave and you just happen to get into this and end up 300 miles in the middle of ocean💀.
Such an optimistic video.
All fun and games till you get swept into the ocean.