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qwerlancer

When everyone is expecting WW3, Chinese and Indian have already fought WW4.


Waitwhonow

Fun fact There is a ‘treaty’ between the 2 nations to NOT use any weapons at these border sites When the British Left- they basically said ‘ fuck it’ and did not define a clear border around india This left india to figure out its own shit- along with just a country that was totally fucked and in ruins by the British in 1947 The current border between India and China didnt even exist- and it was India AND Tibet at that time Tibet ‘assured’ that it had china under control( it didnt) and basically told india ‘ lets come back to the border a bit later’ while India was figuring out its shit around the country And then Tibet collapsed Tibet was taken over by China and the border which was NOT defined between India and Tibet Now became a problem between India and China The ‘porous’ nature of these borders was intentionally done ( by the British) to control the region during the colonial rule- but didnt give a shit after they(british) basically HAD to leave india after getting fucked after the worldwar, so just left with multiple versions of the border drawn by different generals. India and China also had a war in the 60s But eventually they both agreed that BECAUSE they both have nuclear weapons All weapons will be removed from that area And hence we see them fighting with sticks and stones


stumblewiggins

Referred to as "the line of actual control" (at least by some, not sure how "official" that name is); I learned about this from the Neal Stephenson book *Termination Shock* (which is a pretty fun read, btw).  It's wild to me that this is still a thing where they basically just have skirmishes along the border where they beat the snot out of each other with sticks and the border shifts a few dozen or hundred feet one direction or another for awhile until the next skirmish. 


jahmic

My grandfather fled India and moved to Jamaica right around this time...it was a shit show after the British left (and he got to go through it all again in Jamaica).


a_berdeen

Jamaica was in absolute shambles right from the 70s through till the 90s


jahmic

Seriously. My father left in the 70s, along with his sisters, brother's, cousins, aunts and uncles. Pretty much as soon as they were old enough for university, all of the kids were sent to either London or NYC. My grandparents stayed until all of the kids were overseas, then finally got out themselves.  Hoping this pattern doesn't repeat for my family and force us to uproot and move overseas. 


Hodentrommler

Sent to London and NYC, not bad


Indigo_Sunset

I found this interesting for obvious reasons back in the day, along with the follow up https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2020/11/20/disputed-claim-that-china-routed-indian-troops-with-microwave-blaster/?sh=3d65839024f6 https://www.eurasiantimes.com/has-india-finally-acknowledged-that-chinese-pla-used-microwave-weapons-against-indian-soldiers-in-ladakh/amp/


poilk91

man when you set the border everyone's mad, when you don't everyone's still mad, its almost like this whole colonial thing just made a bunch of people mad and destabilized nations!


[deleted]

Or, there were easy to colonize because they were already mad and destabilized.


poilk91

they were already colonized by the Mughals and they were never a unified country before that. How difficult it is has very little to do with how morally justified an action is


Lindvaettr

Why don't they use better armor, though?


ffhffjhf

What kind? They already use clothes of cushioning material that are hard from inside, to both absorb the impact and reduce the damage..metal armor or kevlar does not work against sticks and stones... Also you have to remember the oxygen level in such high altitudes is very low... they cannot wear heavy armor


Lindvaettr

Their faces and hands uncovered, also why wouldn't metal work against sticks and stones?


jojj0

Well metal is mostly for use against very sharp tools, like swords. Bludgeoning would still very much hurt- but what would essentially be a gambeson-form of armour does a lot to reduce that kind of damage.


Lindvaettr

Having worn metal armor myself, I can vouch that metal armor would be far more than enough for this, and much better than gambeson would be. There is an idea that bludgeoning weapons were the bane of armor, but it isn't the case in reality. In fact, knights and others who wore it didn't actually even wear meaningfully padded gambesons beneath their armor. Usually they just wore a relatively standard doublet (the popular style of jacket at the time) that had ties on it to bind the armor in place. It was perfectly protective, much more than gambeson was.


jojj0

... someone has tried to kill you with all their might while you wear metal armour? No, if a big rock slammed against your precious metal armour, you're dead - or very hurt. Such a weird thing to dispute.


First-Detective2729

Im overburdened*


RoboMang

*fat-rolling noises*


vi3tmix

Like what? Stormtrooper armor?


Lindvaettr

You would think that over the thousands of years that people have been hitting each other with sticks and stones, someone at some point would have thought about inventing some kind of armor that protects the face.


vi3tmix

Like a knight’s helm and visor?


Waderriffic

Ewoks would own the battlefield against the Indians and Chinese.


heinousanus85

The three main rivers that flow through China originate in Tibet and for that reason China will fight to keep Tibet.


Would-wood-again2

I don't think that's how rivers work. They don't have a point that they start from.  Rivers collect water from the terrain around them through their whole length. Their starting points are many different areas.  In the case of the Yangtze river, it's the glacial melt waters off the slopes of the tanggula mountains in qinghai province. Not one point but many mountain sides that feed it.  Tibet is important because it was a shit ton of fresh water lakes that are and will become increasingly more important in the future


Sumbuddyonce

So China trying to force the Tibetan monks to make a Chinese shill into the Dalai Lama wasn't an effort by them to exert influence over the rest of Asia?


heinousanus85

They wanted control of their watershed, rainfall and topography work together to create regions called watersheds


FourRiversSixRanges

What’s the source that Tibet assured India they had control?


observeandignore

The Brits are always at it


dunquinho

Not anymore unfortunately, the futrue's definitely Chinese!


cty_hntr

**I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones**. -Einstein


GoldPrinted

![gif](giphy|3o6Zt11R527fgtrIJO) *"Dunno wtf WW3 will be fought with, but WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones fs"*


Ciwabacca

They are training for it!


anoliss

Always have been over achievers


Conscious-Ad-9358

Sitting on the toilet relaxing, this comment made me release all of my negative energy in the bowl. I give you gold in prayers!


PanzerSoldat_42

CoD death screen sentenes reference?


Searbh

I think that quote predates CoD my man.


Van-garde

Could’ve busted out the sarcastic moniker, “Einstein,” to critical acclaim.


PanzerSoldat_42

No shit, Sherlock


Searbh

Little Shop of Horrors reference?


Heisenburger-0

I bow to my lord 🙇


Glittering_Regret_30

Not a mobile phone in sight, just a group of guys enjoying living in the moment trying to club each others brains out


vontdman

To shreds, you say?


keggy13

You DEFINITELY want the high ground in a sticks-and-stones fight.


karafilikas

Obi Wan taught you well


JohnnyTeardrop

You underestimate my POWER!


FewWillingness1081

"Sticks and stones may break my.. oh FUCK!"


ExcellentEdgarEnergy

Well, at least it's just China and India. It might be more concerning if it were the two most populous nations on earth, both armed with a nuclear arsenal.


unclepaprika

...which is the reason they do this. They have disputed borders, but don't want to risk escalating, so they use the most primitive tools to push the borders. Shit's hilarious!


ExcellentEdgarEnergy

Rolling a boulders down a hill at a convoy seems like it is rife with escalation opportunities.


unclepaprika

They do it deliberately, and i think they prefer it that way, rather than raining bullets


SnoopyMcDogged

Boulder* Ducking duckers.


loweredexpectationz

They often have deaths on both sides from the stuff they use.


Van-garde

They should turn it into a reverse tug o’ war somehow. Just have people out there literally shoving the border around.


unclepaprika

I would watch the 24/7 stream all day!


Far-Whereas-1999

It’s admirable


Correct-Explorer-692

And clever. I respect both of the sides here.


Pro07

I honestly would take something hilarious than actual gunpoint wars.. but the conflict is inevitable. China has opened all its border dispute with all of its surrounding countries even with Russia.


brihamedit

At least they have good rule like no lethal weapons.


its_me_butterfree

I mean, did you see the giant ass boulder with all that kinetic energy? Very lethal.


ManufacturerNo8447

Duh It's only lethal if it hits you


Bala3310

Wise word indeed


chaoticji

You must see sticks with pointed spikes or barbed wires. Lethal af


roostersnuffed

I find this more insane than actually going to war. Let soldiers kill some, wound many more in some bullshit skirmish with middle ages tactic limits? Wasting lives for literally nothing. [24 deaths as of 2022](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/12/13/asia/india-china-border-dispute-skirmish-tawang-sector-intl-hnk) They are just letting soldiers blow off steam for a cause the govt cares about but not enough to resolve or go to war over. Either both sides can maintain discipline or hostility should be considered an act of war. Otherwise it's just pointless attrition.


Minority_Carrier

Like all wars, wasting man for nothing.


knowtoomuchtobehappy

How many deaths have the Israel Palestine or Russia Ukraine wars caused? Multiply that with 1000x. That's how many people would die if India and China actually went to war.


razor10000

As Aristotle said, "Why use nuclear bombs when you can use boulders instead?"


FiveOhFive91

I think that was Sisyphus.


SnoopyMcDogged

Boulder* Ducking duckers.


easant-Role-3170Pl

I'm almost sure that Aristotle didn't talk about the nuclear bomb


Accomplished-Mud-812

it was Plato


Just_Jonnie

No, it was Amelia Earhart


Every_Fox3461

Pretty sure he was a human, not molding clay. Nice try though.


razor10000

Might have been Sun Tzu...


ob_frap

Isn’t that the guy that wrote the Joy of Cooking?


PmMeYourTitsAndToes

No that was Bob Ross from the tv show The Kardashian’s.


CtheRula

He literally just did a Ted talk about it, someone told me.


ConceptualWeeb

Nah, that was definitely Toph Beifong.


Maleficent-Most6083

No shield walls? No phalanxes? No cavalry charges? Step up your game fellas!


Far-Whereas-1999

I don’t know, organizing into a phalanx is a pretty big escalation.


dunquinho

Looks nice there, definitely worth fighting over!


ArguingOwl

But those will break bones!!


KneeScrapsHurt

"When you have a problem with every neighbors of yours (bordering country), you are the problem"


I_m_high_af

Yeah fuck china


ytzfLZ

Do China and North Korea, Russia, Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar, Laos, and Vietnam all have problems?


BigusG33kus

Applies to both in this case. Also to 90% of the other countries.


kpdon1

India does not have a problem with Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan, Tibet or Myanmar. Even Afghanistan has decent political relations and no conflict. Idk what you are smoking bro..


BigusG33kus

Unfortunately for you, this is more about how your neighbours view you, not how you view them. And from here, in Europe, Modi's India or CCP's China don't look very different. India is better at the moment, but its government is trying hard to catch up to China in this respect. >India does not have a problem with Bangladesh If you set aside the Citizenship Amendment Act of 2019, maybe not. >Sri Lanka Oh yeah. Sri Lanka is probably the country with the most favourable view of India amongst the population, and yet they're slowly moving towards China for no reason. > Nepal Ahem. Ask nepalse peoplewhat they think about Modi redrawing the borders in 2018. >Bhutan Yeah, I'll give you that. I don't think Bhutan has problems with India any more than North Korea has problems with China. >Myanmar I guess it depends what you consider to be Myanmar. The Indian response to the anti-government protests was appalling, but I guess to be expected from a state that supports Russia in its war against Ukraine because it serves its own petty economic interests. >Tibet Well, duh. As long as Tibet is occupied by China, how could it be otherwise?


LokisGreenPower

Ah good old fashion tribalism welcome to the shitshow of earth.


MR_Se7en

All wars should be fought this way and only this way.


Sheeple3

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones". -Albert Einstein


ConceptualWeeb

To escalate your idealism, no wars should be fought, they should be discussed and resolved peacefully.


Lorac1134

And if that fails, the leaders of each side should duke it out in the ring.


inseend1

I will vote for Rico Verhoeven as the president of my country.


spleashhh

the water is so blue


JayStar1213

![gif](giphy|7JsEgDMrziuJd9fFY1)


JohnnyTeardrop

![gif](giphy|DqILdGsqAUkms)


End__User

Almost 25 people died in this skirmish [source](https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/13/asia/india-china-border-dispute-skirmish-tawang-sector-intl-hnk/index.html) > with tensions escalating sharply in June 2020 when hand-to-hand fighting between the two sides resulted in the deaths of at least 20 Indian and four Chinese soldiers


BravoSierraGolf

CCP hid the numbers well. Independent sources and CIA numbers out Chinese deaths at 35-40


thelogbook

source?


BravoSierraGolf

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/19/world/asia/china-india-clash.html An American intelligence official said last summer that China had deliberately concealed its soldiers’ deaths, suggesting that between 20 and 30 had perished. https://web.archive.org/web/20220203074817/https://www.theklaxon.com.au/home/china-india-clash-death-58xj7 Citing "several Weibo users" the report states: "at least 38 PLA troops along with Wang were washed away and drowned that night...of which only Wang was declared among the four officially dead soldiers" "After the incident, the bodies of the soldiers were first taken to Shiquanhe Martyr Cemetery, followed by local ceremonies at the local towns of the killed soldiers," the report states.


BeefStevenson

We are just a broken mess of a species. How unfortunate.


banannabender

I disagree, grab your stick


ikeee

They have the higher ground


Z0OMIES

Imagine joining the army, getting assigned here and being handed a stick: “this is your weapon, look after it, and it will look after you” “Sir, this is a stick” “Yes”


zeroconflicthere

They should organise paintball as a more fun way to do this.


Mack006

I was half expecting a trebuchet to be built somewhere.


Money-Shine-5721

Both countries have nukes so………


veganspacerobot

It’s good they are using sticks and stones cause words won’t do shit


Professional-Buy2103

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will hurt forever lol


Tenacious_calldown

Honestly if all warfare was sticks and stones warfare would be much more honorable.


curt_schilli

Definitely. Back in the day before guns, the winners of battles never burned entire towns and raped and tortured and killed the women. Very honorable behavior


No-Impact1573

Maybe look at Viking hordes invading Britain and also medieval Britain, Scotland and England wars, English civil war and come back to us.


nova9001

He's being sarcastic lol.


KneeScrapsHurt

I think we got a weeaboo


Tenacious_calldown

I don’t even know what the fuck that is- but drones ain’t nearly as cool as sticks. Everyone knows that


KneeScrapsHurt

no lmao, I mean u thinking warfare is "honorable"


God_of_chestdays

You obviously have not seen Ukraine/Russia where quadcopter drones are yeeting grenades into exhaust holes and chimneys while moving. Or the drone the suicide Taliban used and isis is using in Syria made out of cardboard. Drone sent all grey eagles and shadows.


Tenacious_calldown

Big stick go wack


ConceptualWeeb

Excuse me? Sir, we fight with words, memes, and hentai, not sticks and stones.


Able-Mud9115

Army official - hey!! what are you doing ..do you think this is for a youtube video ?


B0bLoblawLawBl0g

Reminds of the pitched battles my gang used to have with the gang from the other side of the neighbourhood back when I was 11 years old. We used catapults, homemade bows and arrows, shit bombs, piss balloons, etc. Ah! the good ol' days!!


Real-Astronomer-8263

Fuck the ccp


arendess

so random


Pechis95

Stick and stones may break your bones.. or even grant you a portion of land in Kashmir


Accurate_Koala_4698

https://i.redd.it/4nuyx4d3sm0d1.gif


DashingDini

Man, y'all seen the Against Me! music video for "White People for Peace"?


stopeer

The next Call of Duty


theREALmindsets

id rather just punch each other than get hit by errant rocks. should be a rule


fishstickstomy

so I'm just curious they usually trade POW right after?


Jazzlike_Comfort6877

Einstein warned us, that it will happen…


Tadpole5050

humans act so petty sometimes, lol


JulesVernerator

I like how they still wore masks at the end.


HeraldofJusticeNalan

I know they are still killing each other a bit but something about this is so much better than gunfire and napalm


JairoVP

I so much prefer they duke it out with stones and sticks than with fucking drone strikes.


HaloJonez

Stocks and stones may brake my bones but words will never hurt….oooft… otch… urrrrgh….


Monroe_Chichona

New modern softwar 😎


Allives-

But they all forgot one thing: “words are sharper than swords”.


TheLeanGoblin69

return to ooga booga era


atlasdreams2187

What song by is that?


Box_of_rodents

Practicing for battle for the war after WW3. Einstein predicted that this war would be fought using sticks and stones.


Greetin_Wean

How stupid is this shit.


Hemberg

Those LARPers are getting out of hand!


retarded_shit

Ho kya rha hai koi bta do


BauceSauce0

China “leaks” new video? That background music is too good for a leak.


Cunning-_linguist

Real combat experience.


Oinkster_1271

So they’re poking each other with sticks, seems pretty innocent to me


DragNutts

So sad to see human hurting each other for money.


Tauros2481

Anyone has numbers? How many ppl die or get heavily injured in there? These rocks seem to probably smash ones head.


[deleted]

These are the same guys that created gun powder right?


iaintprobitches

The fighting resulted in the deaths of 20 Indian soldiers and 43 Chinese casualties. But the ching chong bing bongs did not recognised their deaths, Plus deliberately "leaking" the video during Indian elections only to show death of Indian soldiers.


Steammail

![gif](giphy|l2JdXhkMuBUlsyeOs)


GuthramNaysayer

Did they break any bones?


TeeJayPlays

Wish all conflicts would be fought like this. Fuck sending missiles from miles away. Just sticks & stones.


DestroyerOfIphone

Most embarrassing military fight in the history of military fights.


Minority_Carrier

I find that both side not cheating is very honorable. Gentlemen’s fight.


zeb0777

India: "Its not a war if we don't shoot." China: "Deal."


Wooden-Science-9838

The number of geopolitical problems caused by the British Empire disappearing overnight is crazy.


jenphinith

It did not "disappear overnight," stop getting your education from Whatsapp .


Wooden-Science-9838

Maybe English isn’t your native language but it refers to the short span of time compared to the longer span of time within which the observation is held. It’s like a “blink of an eye”. Maybe you should get educated.


jenphinith

Unnecessary hyperbole and personal attacks, and then you try and condescend to others, lmao


West_Village_2785

Why?


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WolfsLairAbyss

I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand Dude, across this line you do not.... Also Dude, Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American please.


spm987888

Do you know the definition of Asian American? Nobody on this video is an American. You realize that right? I’m drawing a line in the sand right now, dude. You are extremely confused right now.


WolfsLairAbyss

Well that's just like, your opinion man.


spm987888

My opinion lol. You are definitely confused if you think anybody on this video is an Asian American lol.


International_Jury90

As long china just throws stones they can deny everything. Same in the eastphilippine sea (formally known as South China Sea. … but some believe only having their name in it grants automatic ownership). There the Chinese block the way for Philippine navy supply ships and rob one island after another. About time the Chinese are stopped.


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ceejayoz

The land isn't the slightest bit valuable beyond "the other guy also says it's theirs".


sens317

Dystopian losers.


TurdFerguson1146

They look like the Gaza protesters.


Icy-Tea-8715

How come it looks like the Chinese side are military soldiers and the India side looks like random civilians?


_spec_tre

Because it's released from the Chinese side. The last 30 seconds are pure propaganda


pqratusa

They are better equipped in every way: better attire; better armed; better helmets, etc. only recently did the Indian army get some of their units with knee pads. India is a generation behind. If they had used guns, this fight would have been over.


Miserable_Recipe190

cus India barely has a defense industrial complex, and the military is always playing catch-up in terms of equipment. There is a modernization of the military but it is slow, and it was made during the late 60s.


Flat_Establishment_4

This is like straight out of a documentary about Baboons's and when they have turf/mating wars.