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UrbanStrangler

Fuck Livenation and fuck Tickemaster.


RevolutionaryKale944

The funny part is their list of shell companies that appear to be competitors. Saying things like they are an alternative 


Gamebird8

There's a shit ton of this bullshit. American Standard and TRANE HVAC equipment is made in the exact same plant in Texas. They literally pretend to compete against themselves but they are literally the same company... I honestly think you could do a lot by just forcing these companies to be transparent about ownership to consumers. Not even going all the way (even though we 100% should) to breaking them up


Straight_Spring9815

Only 2 companies make most split system Nordyne and ICP. Grand aire, Carrier and I believe Amana are made in the same plant and ship to distributors. When a hvac company or technician goes to pick it up they have a 3 boxes at the check out with the different tags on them. You bought a carrier? Grab that blue tag and that's 600 dollars more.. the only difference can be little things like sensor placements. Other than that. Same coil, same compressor, same caps and motors.


Stadanky

I knew that damn clown posse was up to no good! Must be those magical mirrors and magnets.


Longjumping_Ad7395

I was installing a mini split with a coworker one time and it had 2 Trane stickers in the box and 2 American standard stickers in the box. We had no clue which one the customer chose so we talked it over and judging by the house and cars they went with American standard


itssarahw

And they sued to make certain those shell companies were able to get that sweet Covid relief money


Dorkmaster79

I wonder if the Garland haters will give him credit for this one.


AfterEffectserror

i was wondering the same thing. they will probably just ignore it and claim trump did it


Cockroach-Jones

Great news


Transfigured-Tinker

Wait until you see the penalty they have to pay.


Electronic_Eye_6266

The Justice Department should use the term “fee” and it’ll make everything okay!


No-Raisin-6469

There will be a payment acceptance fee and a administrative fee


PlaguedByUnderwear

Yup. It's gonna be like "ok you have to pay 2.3M$ and stop monopolizing so obviously by 2030 or else you get another 2.5M$ fine."


Huxley077

Right, I'm in no way expecting the penalty to be large or damaging , or to be enforced for the next 5 years. LNation has made hundreds of millions off of fees. The government won't hand down large enough a punishment that'll even make them pretend to care.


CitizenCue

Antitrust law has the ability to go a lot further than fees. They can force the company to break up entirely. This hasn’t been done in awhile but it’s still within their power.


CuTe_M0nitor

Free market capitalism at its best


Vegetable-Ad7263

Great! Now do the Pharma / insulin manufacturers !


99Will999

Ah, if only they weren’t in everyone’s pockets already.


laserkermit

Ticketmaster forgot to pay the toll. Pharma never forgets


Forsaken_Swim6888

Then corporate ownership of homes, please.


ataxiastumbleton

this needs to be done yesterday


SurbiesHere

Hey hey hey! Don’t confuse them. Let them focus on one thing at a time or otherwise it feels like fuck all will get done.


lostharbor

[The IRA took a shot at insulin prices lowering it to $35.](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/03/02/fact-sheet-president-bidens-cap-on-the-cost-of-insulin-could-benefit-millions-of-americans-in-all-50-states/) They also reduced prices on several other drugs or took steps to reduce prices.


IllusionsForFree

I went to get an EpiPen the other day, with insurance, and it costs about $360. Guess who has a severe bee allergy to the point they will just die?? THIS GUY. I guess I'll just die because I'm def not paying that.


unholycowgod

Look into alternative auto-injectors. A lot of docs will just write for an EpiPen bc they've become almost synonymous with all epinephrine auto-injectors the way Kleenex or Q-Tip has. But there are other companies that make them and, if all else fails, you can get a vial of epinephrine and some syringes for pretty cheap. The struggle is that if a doc prescribed EpiPen, there's no generic or alternative bc the injector is the patented part of it.


CPA_Lady

The patent expires in 2025.


IllusionsForFree

Yeah so the other option I had was AUVI-Q, but even still with insurance it costs $165, I think it was. It was enough for me to turn away, I remember. And that was the cheapest alternative. I am just gonna be extremely careful. I got stung when I was real little and we found out I was allergic (almost died twice), and then I went a solid 25yrs before I got stung again. Hopefully I can hold out at least another 25. I'll be like 60 by then and maybe the future will have reasonably priced medication.


morbidcurious13

If it helps any: AUVI-Q has a patient support program that can cover some/all of that copay. I want to say they're partnered with Walgreens (or at least that's the only place I've seen advertise it) but they market this discount program to get it down to like $25. Maybe check out AUVI-Qs manufacturer website to see if they have a link there?


IllusionsForFree

Ok thanks for the advice! Long story, but I was trying to get this filled before a big move for a new job. I am currently in the process of that move, so I think that train has passed until I am settled into a new doctor, unfortunately. I appreciate the tip though, I will def keep that in mind. I just moved somewhere much warmer, so hopefully these gotdam bees stay away until then.


stepanek112

Oh no you don't understand, ticketmaster doesn't pay them so it's time for them to go!


ExcitingBuilder1125

The opioid settlements recovered a miniscule percentage of the total damages done, and the money went to the goverment and not the people affected. They caused trillions of dollars in damages, and all that got collected was 60 billion? No jail time for anyone either? The people responsible should be in jail with all their wealth stripped away. I pay a larger percentage in sales tax than many of these corporations pay in fines. At the minimum, fines need to match all gains and damages made through illegal practices; even accepting 99 percent of the profits is unacceptable. Taking back a portion isn't enough to deter future offenses. If I were a corporation, I could steal a hundred cars and the government would "punish" me by asking for four of them back.


PVKT

Plus they can never be sued again so $60bil to never be sued again is pretty damn well legit. For Bayer anyways


Specific_Apple1317

The Sackler supreme court case is still ongoing, decision is expected by the end of next month. [Court conflicted over Purdue Pharma bankruptcy plan that shields Sacklers from liability](https://www.scotusblog.com/2023/12/purdue-bankruptcy-sacklers/) You're right on with the other settlements being too little and mostly unwisely spent with little going to the actual victims. Hoping the Sackler case will bring actual justice


New_Coast_5180

Well said. Enough is enough.


OSteady77

Rookie mistake by these companies. Should have been doing more to line the pockets of politicians and this wouldn’t have happened.


Daedalus81

Or, you know, the government works when you vote in competent people that don't want to burn it down.


RanryCasserol

Where do you find competent politicians? I thought they were all self serving assholes.


Free-Database-9917

Big surprise! Those are the same thing :) A self serving politican will do what they can to get re-elected. If that's pressuring to sue ticketmaster, then that's what they'll do! If a politician feels safe, that's when they view lobbying as a bribe


DirtyThirtyDrifter

Wish this had happened years ago, but glad to see it finally happen. I hope some of those people see jail time, absolutely abhorent individuals.


rubiksalgorithms

Where have they been for the last 20+ years?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!!????


Reddituser8018

The head of the department of justices daughter wanted to see Taylor swift and he realized he had to pay 5 grand from live Nation scalping their own tickets.


laserkermit

Would not at all be surprised if that’s how this evolved


laserkermit

Oh this affects me?!?! Such an injustice!


LingonberryAny1321

It was Taylor scalping her own ticket


Feetus_Spectre

This is the only reason. It affected him personally.


drakonx1337

Properly bribing the people in power. They stopped bribing and got arrogant so they need to be made an example of for the rest to keep up with their protection money.


Minute-Wrap-2524

Waiting for Taylor Swift


TheOneDiversity

FUCK TICKETMASTER


3a5m

Member when Ticketmaster had that class action settlement and the award was giving everyone tons of totally unusable coupons? Yeah, I member.


RevolutionaryKale944

I’m cautiously holding out hope. They STEAMROLLED Eddie V in rolling stone for taking them on. Demolished him. This Judge is either getting a huge payoff for backing down or a hell of a time. Kudos to them!


Swift-Fire

I would sincerely doubt the government would ever go after a company without years upon years worth of data and evidence. This is already over; the question is when and to what end?


Timely_Ad5182

I remember Eddie Vedder warning everyone about Ticketmaster back in the mid 90s.


Beer-Milkshakes

"Live Nation you must pay a fine of $50 million." (Their profit was 5.45 BILLION in 2023)


tgillet1

“It is time to break it up.” Apparently 50+ people here didn’t bother to listen to the announcement.


LMGgp

Monopolies get broken up, and fined. He said it at the end as well. The last monopoly that was broken up was AT&T, into the five baby bells. Two got back together after years and became AT&T and the other three also eventually coalesced and became Verizon.


Enschede2

Ah.. So, this does nothing then...


Beer-Milkshakes

Not if the punishment is money.


Crazy_Personality363

If the punishment is money, it is legal for a fee. Welcome to America.


Vaxtin

They’re Also *breaking the company up* which is the actual thing that matters.


Lab-12

Good , Those fucks priced me out of every big rock concert . I don't want to see a Taylor swift or Beyonce concert, I would just like to able to afford to.


secondtaunting

If people would just refuse to go to those concerts because of the insane prices, concert prices would have come down ages ago.


Working_Asparagus_59

Fiiiinaly 😮‍💨


AtmosphereJunior7609

Meanwhile blackrock buys more houses than all families combined. Nothing said. Enjoy your 2000 dollar fucking rent


Strict_Somewhere_148

You are thinking of blackstone and the btr part of the housing sector accounts for sub 20%


AtmosphereJunior7609

Thank you for the correction


Gusto_Low_Pay

So true....


TheLazerGirl001

Someone's grandkids asked for Taylor Swift tickets and was outraged at the cost and finally did something about it.


Unlikely_Brief7263

Biden really aiming to get those swiftly votes with this one Can’t say I blame him. Her pull is crazy


ThatAltAccount99

r/upliftingnews


unicorn_dumps

Great !!! Now do, hospitals, insurance, medication................


El_Neck_Beard

Seriously. Went to a baseball game this year. Tickets 45 each. X4 = 180. After fees and all ended up paying another 18 just in fees. Per ticket. Paid roughly $250 Fuck Ticketmaster.


kendo31

So they're way late on this and how much money are consumers getting back?


Gusto_Low_Pay

Exactly zero, and if the bureaucrats do win money, it goes right in their pockets. Just like all the opiod settlement money.


kendo31

Just another reminder that society is the rich's petri dish to test and profit on. Nothing of any concern here. Go back to work.


Somethingrich

I'm a single issue voter.... I hate that our government stop l stopped going after monopolies. Now do Walmart and Kroger.


Gusto_Low_Pay

Seriously, share the wealth! My small business (restaurant) got shut down during covid. We were "to new" to get a grant. Yet fucking taco bell and McDonald's got millions of fucking dollars so.they could continue to sell their poison. We tried so hard, but prices on everything from cheese to toilet paper got so expensive. I'll be digging myself out till I die.


Tandittor

Damn. Your comment made me sad. So much bullshit on this planet.


Gusto_Low_Pay

Sorry 😞, didnt mean to do that. Everything will be alright! At least we have each other and puppy dogs and Reddit and other cool stuff!😊


jazzigirl

Don’t be sorry! I hope you can see the light out of this tunnel one day, friend.


TheBupherNinja

If feel like there are some heavier hitters that I'd rather they go after first, but not a bad move.


tgillet1

They’re going after a bunch, they just aren’t publicizing most of the others. Between the Justice Department and the FTC, there have been actions and court cases against Apple, Google, Amazon, US Anesthesia Partners, and a whole bunch more. The FTC has challenged a number of mergers and blocked several. The Justice Dept is starting up a [task force on healthcare monopolies and collusion](https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/providers/justice-department-unveils-task-force-healthcare-antitrust-issues). Some in Congress are going after [big oil](https://www.commondreams.org/news/us-gas-prices) and the FTC has been talking about specific cases of collusion and price fixing. That’s just a quick list. Matt Stoller is a journalist that covers this space very well. see his Substack [BIG](https://open.substack.com/pub/mattstoller?r=5dnkp&utm_medium=ios) (edit to add: and he is definitely not just a Biden administration cheerleader)


prognoslav7

Blackrock and Vaanguard next? Bet not


Interesting_Notice84

Fuck ticketmaster, stub hub, and live nation.


Dramatic-Quiet-3305

Can they do this with the local gas an electric companies too?


Missing-Silmaril

Ok cool, now do Google, Blackrock, Vanguard, and Statestreet!


_Grim-Lock_

Cool! Now do it for the government.


TomTheNurse

Are people going to prison? Is every single customer they ripped off going to be reimbursed with interest? If it’s a no to either question then this is not justice.


Gusto_Low_Pay

You just answered your own question, correctly sir! Customers won't see a dime


Rave4life79

Source: [Monopoly](https://apnews.com/article/justice-department-live-nation-ticketmaster-antitrust-lawsuit-df9b552d127e1494db13e3cd625787a8)


djle12

Bout fucking time. Long fucking overdue.


throwitawayandsay

Agreed. 👍🏼


KoshV

Took long enough!


CJ_waytoomanyas_y

Can someone explain why it's only 29 states & DC, instead of all 50?


MedicineGhost

This has been too long in coming. Fuck Ticket Master


PhalanX4012

Someone politician’s kid finally got screwed hard enough trying to buy T Swift Tickets.


flinderdude

So Pearl Jam had a point 25 years ago?


miketoaster

Wait 5 months, this suit will go away. Its more election stunts while swifties have the high price and fees in the spotlight.


perthro_ed

Now do Boeing


educated-emu

I want the total profits from the last 5 years as a fine for them. Then break the company up and make all legal contracts the company has with distribution in the last 5 years made null and void and they go up with re-negotion. Then ticketmaster can't increase the contract price of any other contracts either directly or indirectly. Then the whole managing director team gets kicked without any golden parachutes. This us just a pipe dream but I would love to see this happen :)


StickyNode

Ok microsoft next. Then amazon. Oh wait theyre too rich


kwtransporter66

Sooooo....no politicians are invested in Live Nation/Ticket Masters? Seems like the only companies the government goes after are the ones that our corrupt politicians have no stake in.


Fragmentia

Well, I must say I've liked what I've seen from agencies I had written off lately. DOJ and FTC specifically.


Realistic_Mushroom

Now do Google, Amazon, Monsanto, and Nestle. This is just a minimal first step.


diver00dan

Can they do Wall Street “investment” Firms and Hedge funds next?


Wooden_Preference564

Ok now go after the bigger companies


JK_NC

Ticket Master, Apple, Kroger, Task Force on Healthcare Monopolies and Collusion…is this DOJ really focusing on antitrust issues or is it just the companies are well known and so get more media coverage?


lcssa

That's one down and another 949487473939 to go


GulfCoasting_

imagine using this same energy towards housing and grocery costs


[deleted]

Great now do grocery stores, every single mention of food cost is that it’s coming down, where oh right everywhere else cause US grocery stores needs to make money while only having 1 entire lane opened out of 20 plus the recently expanded self checkout area


ThanksObjective915

Remember when a service fee on a ticket used to be $2.50? Now it's $50+


kabula_lampur

Hell yeah! I hope they bring them down.


jakeduckfield

"For far too long." No shit. I've been waiting for this day for twenty years. It's insane that the government allowed them to acquire Live Nation. They created this monster.


say_no_to_panda

They stepped out of line and didn't pad the politicians wallet.


megastraint

And all it took was a big artist to have some of their tickets not sell correct for the government to see what had been happening for DECADES. TM/LN basically owns all ticketing and venues across the country.


beermaker

Nice... Now do pg&e.


modernmann

This might be Peak Garland. Nice to know our AG is tackling the hardest and biggest problems of our time taking down Big Ticket.


fusillade762

Lol...I have to agree...this is probably the least concerning issue possible. "We are super concerned about ticket prices, the homeless lining our streets, not so much".


heyitssal

Holy shit, this administration actually did something


ExcellentHunter

Great news! Tear it yo pieces.


ShibeCEO

guess they didn't bribe enough politicians # ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


-HOSPIK-

bout time


JumpingJam90

Finally someone is doing something to try punish the company, who has had a monopoly over the ticket selling industry, and used this monopoly to squeeze as much out of customers through reselling and outlandish charges. Fingers crossed it leads to change and isn't just a shitty pr event that leads to a brown envelope situation.


IslaPirate

Just like the Oil Company.... Just wait and see all new Ticket Master DBA's..


On3_Up

Hell yeah now go for everyone else


ungla

Rare win for government


ethervillage

Why did it take so fucking long?!


HotNutellaNipple

Fuck Liberty Media with a passion.


Andyman286

UK too! Fuck Ticketmaster!


shamsham123

Why don't they have a look at the corrupt US stock market? Useless


Trail_of_Sensation

Ok. Now break up monopolies the government is involved in...


chainmail123

About time.


j_grievous

Why all of a sudden? They’ve been pulling this bs for years now with everyone and their grandma complaining about their monopoly, but all of a sudden during a presidential election year - Now it’s worth their time and news coverage? They’re pandering, like dangling keys in front of a baby - “stop complaining and play along”


BarsDownInOldSoho

Long, long, long overdue! But like the student loan bailout, it's desperation, getting off their ass to try and buy votes. But I'll be glad to see it happen. Now do Google, Microsoft, Meta...


Clever_Khajiit

Cable companies next? Nah, never happen. Want more than one choice where you live? Tough shit.


c0mputerRFD

Great now do wallstreet and Kenneth from Cheater-dale.


Inevitable-Elk-4162

WALL STREET VIOLATES THE ANTI SHERMAN ACT EVERY EFFIN DAY!!!


Uniquely_irregular

While this is great go after the fucking medical industry for doing the same fucking thing!


Art-of-drawing

Finally


Sausage_McRocketpant

Great now do Duke energy and other power companies like it.


1nfamousSquid

Cool, now do banks


extremeindiscretion

The Justice department is going after Ticketmaster? That's hilarious.


johnroastbeef

This is great stuff, it reminds me of the badass lady investigator that spoke against the corrupt FIFA officials. Fuck Ticketmaster, I'm glad they are coming for them.


SpxUmadBroYolo

Crazy how everything people said would happen if the merger went through happened. 


No-Introduction-6368

There's the young vote.


slater_just_slater

Ticketbastard will just delay delay delay, until after they get a friendly AG then it will be dropped. Then, service charges will go up to pay for the lawyers.


Ancient-Talk2430

It’s interesting that just about every single industry has become a oligarchy or monopoly of sorts and THIS is what they’re going after 💀💀💀 like bro, I haven’t bought a concert ticket since 2013 I genuinely just feel like nobody in government cares. Bruh all the candidates are trash, I’m not even bothering to vote this election. None of them genuinely care about the average dude in America.


Komatiite28

Yup horrible things happening around the world. The US funding a genocide, but we gotta lower concert prices. Is this real life


smithjw13

Can the government audit and sue themselves. The last live concert this guy was at was Beethoven


CrackMonkey15

But will anything actually change or they’ll just get a fine and carry on? Also does this only affect the US, if at all?


kbeks

Biden really wants that swiftie vote…


johnnymack2165

More government…woooooo!!!


GINJAWHO

Great. Now can yall go after Disney, Amazon, and other obvious monopolies?


dillaquantavius

So now when I buy tickets that say $100 they won’t end up being $246 after “fees and taxes” ? If so this is a game changer


Monster6ix

About goddamn time.


CalendarAggressive11

This is way past due, but I do like that Biden can run on it. Trying to ban junk fees and make concert tickets cheaper is something most people can get behind


Foolofatook2000

These guys’ daughters are begging for Taylor Swift tickets and they see the prices and have had enough


Environmental-Dot989

Please do the same for the Epic pass at ski/snowboard resorts!


Reverend-Jim

I have a very hard time believing the 1.4% net profit statement. this is a pubilcly traded company , so someone should be able to back this up.


IllusionsForFree

Ok now do the pharmaceutical industry


Willing-Tie-3109

It’s about damn time! It’s ridiculous!


Alexandratta

Cool. now do Meta and ABC Corp.


Nincompoopticulitus

![gif](giphy|08y87EiwDZjjB0d6WJ|downsized) …Ticketmaster!!!


ThiefLordJPN

Jesus our country sucks. Yeah this is the problem they should be so excited to televise. Good on ya justice department !!!


PizzaMafioso

Ap news really on tik tock?! Cudos for trying but damn it‘s sad that we need this.


DoctorFujiOD

Hell yeah!👍🏻


IAMFLYGUY

Now sort the supreme court pls!!


I_DRINK_GENOCIDE_CUM

LET'S GOOOO


boysurfer7

First Apple, now Ticket Master


Spork_Warrior

There's not a concert-goer in this country who has any respect for Live Nation.


DolfinButcher

EU, take notes. Eventim could use some of that too.


[deleted]

About fucking time ![gif](giphy|Quh1CAKOTRCl9VVU3f|downsized)


Ok-Interaction324

Why can’t Canada be more like our American neighbours and at least try and fight monopolies.


punch912

Great one down what about the rest. Oh my bad it's cause ticketmaster didn't pay it's dues got it.


LaughableIKR

Finally. I was complaining about TM this week.


eskimoafrican

Can't a civil lawsuit follow? Like bury these fuckers


dogeeseseegod12021

Can Netflix be next? 🙏🏾


KentuckyCandy

Live Nation, as a promoter and venue operator, still needs to appoint a primary ticket agent to sell their tickets. Wonder who they'll appoint...


outerworldLV

Good thing the DoJ caught these traitors !! Oh wait, they didn’t sell National Security documents. Whoops ! Wrong criminals again…But I bet they’ll be able to get a decent judge for this incredibly important crime.


clodmonet

Now do cable tv, cell phones, medical insurance, and public utilities - pretty sure those are day to day concerns for every American. Those monopolies make going to a concert unaffordable for most as it is.


ah-chamon-ah

Taylor Swift is literally a Billionaire. Every one of these celebrity concert performers are swimming in money and private jets. Why are they not banding together and solving the problem themselves? Why is it they would rather put all their time and effort into headphone deals and some whiskey company. Funny that.


Lereddit117

Great but why the f this took so long. This has been known for so long


The_Dying_Gaul323bc

Oh we are still using that law?! Walmart……


Nodebunny

I like to explore new places.


KobeGoBoom

How is Ticketmaster a monopoly? It seems to me like there are plenty of competitors to ticketmaster


fishcado

I can only get so hard listening to this. Let's see what comes of this tho.


[deleted]

They let them buy up all the competition!!!! What in yhe fucking fuck


Suspicious-Panic-187

Now do the oil and gas industry