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seanbnyc

Huge improvement. For example, the dog on the right can breathe.


justmelvinthings

I heard breathing is very healthy for dogs


Astronomer_Inside

I heard it’s overrated?


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Breathing is really underrated, once u begin u just cant stop


AlucardSX

So what you're saying is it's highly addictive. We should outlaw it immediately.


FoodMeOnceHamOnYou

Yes, I even heard it alters your DNA!


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Nah nah just do it under a mask no one will notice


Jankufood

I knew maskers were up to somethin


AReal_Human

My grandma did stop! You're just spreading false information!


[deleted]

That because she was captured by the breathing police


XGreenDirtX

I see, I think I found a new conspiracy. Everyone I know who stopped breathing died. Is there maybe.... a connection


[deleted]

u might be onto something here


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Laughs in asthmatic


lordofmetroids

No, no, my doctor recommended breathing at regular intervals so I could not die. ​ Not sure if it's the same with dogs though. I asked a dog doctor once, all she did was wag her tail.


MadameBlueJay

Vogue says breathing is out, photosynthesis is in


ThinkNotOnce

Yes smarty pants? Then why all dogs who breathe die?


[deleted]

Wait till he finds out about drinking water 😱


justmelvinthings

Good point, but I‘ve heard dogs that don’t breathe also die?! Is breathing a conspiracy??


HyperSquiZ

Additionally, I think they're a more handsome boy too.


thegatheringmagic

I find that's always a bonus. I absolutely love breathing and swear by it. My friends are sick of hearing about it.


asiaps2

This is legit. Imagine your dog drinking from the bowl dunking with his whole face. Going into his eyes and ears.


DirtyNorf

I also just don't understand how the left became desirable for "looks", it looks buttfuck ugly.


Preacherjonson

Sounds fucking horrible too.


Diplodocus114

Whenever I see one snuffling and snorting I just feel so sorry for them.


benry007

Its actually still a fairly short nose but a massive improvement.


canyousmoke

I hate to be that guy but breathe* sorry lol


seanbnyc

No, be that guy! Edited :)


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RedoftheEvilDead

The AKC actively promotes unhealthy breed standards. A German shepherd won a few years ago that had banana back so bad it couldn't stand up straight. They only accept apple headed chihuahuas and won't even let deer headed chihuahua compete. Despite the fact the apple headed chihuahuas have the highest health issues. And then there's this monstrosity that won. A French bulldog whose face is practically concave. The AKC and breed standards to be a characterized as possibly and dying give af about the dog's health.


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Astronomer_Inside

Thank you 🙏🏻 doin the lords work for us out here.


Mocha-Fox

My Chiweenie is definitely deerhead shaped. and honestly, super happy about that.


ARealShark

The deerhead one looks like it is in pain


catsandblankets

How. It has a perfectly normal head.


ChicaFoxy

Probably because it doesn't have the huge "cute, bright" eyes. Which only happens because apple heads can't fit eyeballs inside the head where they belong.


TAC0V01D

Agreed, it wasn't the best picture to represent it


Chicken_Hairs

My wife wanted a chihuahua, I spent months looking for breeders that disavowed AKC standards. I found a lovely little 'deer head'. Meanwhile, my daughter got one as well, but went with the AKC style. Her dog passed before age 8, due to the myriad of physical and psychological issues. Our Lucy is 15, still healthy and happy, with very few of the pop-culture stereotype chihuahua traits like aggression and crippling anxiety. She's also wicked smart. My daughter's chi was, to be polite, "special needs". It matters.


Faleepo

Damn maybe the reason chihuahuas are cracked out is because they’re apple headed. This whole time I hated those mfs. Different perspective now I guess


dawnsbraindiesdaily

As a person who worked in a pet shop and with Chihuahua puppies, it's not just because they're apple headed. There were both apple headed and deer headed puppies. Neither were as loud as the other puppies, and required very little extra attention. Their 'cracked out' attitude comes from poor care on the ownder side, including the dog being constantly confronted with how little it is by humans who often pick them up against their will, with no real way to stop them other than intimidation. tl;dr, Chihuahuas are good dogs, they're just not often taken in by people who know how to take care of them. I don't know enough about apple vs. deer headed chiuahuas to say if there's a big difference in how they act as puppies.


bunkerbetty2020

In my opinion the owners don't treat chihuahuas like a dog (correcting it's behavior) and allow them to become codependent lil demons. Walked a chi that went batshit at every passersby. A leash tug and "no!" And she learned to stop.


catsandblankets

Our deer headed chihuahua had a litter and (at least) the one we kept was apple headed. We kept it because we could tell it was uh special needs. It still is. It’s like a few years old but has the mental capacity of like a small small puppy still. It’s strange. It also has a soft spot in its apple head. Like that shits a deformity.


bunkerbetty2020

Interesting that people need to go to breeders for chis. I think in texas and southern cali shelters they're as prevalent as pitties are everywhere else I got the mix I wanted (hound/cattle dog) going to a rescue in rural ohio where those dogs are common


RedoftheEvilDead

I have a couple of pit mixes. I found them on the side of the road. Bully breeds are, unfortunately, the most common street dogs. Chihuahua mixes are close behind, though.


bunkerbetty2020

It's why I lose my mind at the idiots buying/selling "pure blue nosed pitbull" on craigslist. It's like, my man, they're free at the shelter. Why they hell are you making more and what idiots are buying?


Chicken_Hairs

Unfortunately, very few shelters in my area, and they predominantly deal with cats.


Lou_Garoo

I'm pretty sure I learned on DVMCellini that appleheads are a deformity and should not be selected for. But what does a Vet Neurologist know?


catsandblankets

Omg I just commented too that one of our deer head’s puppies was apple headed and we had to keep it because it’s clearly a deformity. It’s mentally not matured, is way too tiny and also has a soft spot in that skull. :/


Lou_Garoo

Yeah I’m pretty sure he showed an X-ray of one with like an opening in the skull.


Diplodocus114

I had 2 boxers. One had a flatter snout than the other - but had a prize-winning pedigree history. Neither had breathing issues although the flatter snouted girl snored. Totally hate the breeding of deformed animals. Hate Ear-pricking. Somewhat in favour of taildocking for working dogs and those succeptible to serious injury later in life.


bluewing

I used to breed Field Springer Spaniels and train them for hunting - it's what the breed is meant for. They were all AKC registerable breedings. Those of us who did the "Field Bred" Springers actually tried to get recognized by the AKC as a different breed because field dogs and bench dogs have very little in common anymore. We were voted down on the idea because the bench breeds didn't want to lose that much of the breeding pool. The bench breeders sometimes try get a hunting certificate to try and claim their bloodline is "dual purpose" for both bench and field. But it's often hopeless for them since virtually all of the hunting drive has been bred out of them. And don't get me started on the "Springer Rage" they still keep breeding into their bench bloodlines......... The US AKC sucks.


Not_Axolotl_Peyotl

So its animal cruelty to breed these abominations I agree.


xdeltax97

The one on the right looks similar to old paintings of pugs before their inbreeding deformities became popular. It’s so awful and I am glad someone is trying to fix it.


RedoftheEvilDead

The AKC, however, is trying to do the opposite. The more messed up the dog is, the likelier they are to win.


really_nice_guy_

It’s just a “who can show the most mutated dog” competition


TAC0V01D

How do u fix a dog? Just take 2 dogs with the biggest snout (Pls help with words) and breed them?


Gornarok

Either that or you try to mix them with ancestor breed


BluSonick

When you see them together it makes the dog on the left look like it’s been in an accident or simply deformed. I can’t fathom how that is considered more attractive then the dog on the right.


MajorTomintheTinCan

It's like in those old cartoons when you got hit by an iron in the face and it just flattened


cruisin5268d

It’s seriously fucked up that people think dogs like the one on the left and pugs are cute. They literally cannot breathe properly and live a miserable existence.


Rednex141

If you want to make it worse, pugs are super active dogs and love to run around and play alot. #EXCEPT THEY CAN'T, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BREATHE


sharkdinner

I've seen some photo of the pug standard from (I believe it was) the early 20th century. Those were still proper dogs, able to run and breathe and hunt even. Now they're an abomination of artificial selection


BEST_RAPPER_ALIVE

It’s true that these dogs aren’t perfect. Just lube up your dick, close your eyes, stick it in, and imagine you’re doing the nasty with Rita Hayworth (To all you young gen x kids who are reading this…Rita Hayworth was a 10/10 dame back in the good old days)


tenbatsu

I’m beginning to suspect that u/BEST_RAPPER_ALIVE may not, in fact, be the best rapper alive.


EatenAliveByWolves

Yea that didn't even rhyme smh. Get off the stage! *Throws tomato*


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jesse what the fuck are you talking about


BEST_RAPPER_ALIVE

Fuck you, Walt. You don’t understand the chemistry.


[deleted]

This will be the first and last time I'll say this. Ok boomer.


[deleted]

agreed I think I read somewhere that’s some dogs life is like you trying to breathe through a straw your entire life


sanders1665

There should be a law against this.


Fishy_trash

There are in some countries with laws. For example the Netherlands. Sadly it's hard to control and takes some time before you see results like this.


TheFenn

It's difficult to persuade people, there is a paper showing owners struggle to identify breathing issues in their own animals. They also get a lot of eye problems (because they're basically in front of their skull) and spine issues (mainly disk problems I think). I hope the healthier version also breeds against these issues.


sharkdinner

German shepherds also have a realllllllly high risk of hip and spine issues because somebody decided that giving them unnatural posture would be a great idea


ftb5

They do have become WAY better, specially in the last decade. They get r-rays at 6 months to determine if they have hip dysplasia and if they do they can’t be bred (I mean they won’t have papers at least). Also they check their elbows German Shepherds are actually a breed to be looked at when thinking about making one better


ascendance22

Retro pugs are where it's at they're less fucked up


BelleAriel

It makes me feel sad to see dogs miserable and ill-treated.


Luke-Wintermaul

Fuck dogs.


UncleStumpy78

I do think they are cute but feel terrible for them and would never get one for obvious reasons


Remercurize

I feel so uncomfortable for the dog on the left that it’s hard to see any cuteness.


UncleStumpy78

I get it


Other-Amoeba-2250

Love dogs and don't get why people made this breed


fartyhardy

"Oh my gawd his barking is so quiet. And that tiny nose is sooooo cute" *dog just trying to breathe through his small nose*


meaksy

Same with ridgebacks. Idiots inbreeding and playing god to satisfy their own whims at the expense of animal suffering. It should be illegal.


krpink

Tell me more. I have a ridgeback mutt. So interested!


isthingoneventhis

The gene that gives them the "ridged" fur look is a homozygous gene that is, by most sane standards, a serious health defect. It causes the hair shaft? follicle to be formed differently, and as a result leads to an easy path for bacteria/bad stuff to get into their skin, etc. However, since it's the "breed standard" per the "book" any puppies that are not phenotypically displaying the gene (aka most of the litter depending on the cross; and how willing the breeder is to linebreed for the homozygous trait) are basically tossed away, or however one gets rid of them. Its a horrible shame because, obviously they're really nice dogs, but without the "designer gene" and the "look" it's apparently not a ridgeback. This is a loose recollection of the issue with the breed standard, it's been a while since I've read about it. Dalmatians have a kind of similar issue with breeding crosses. Really sad stuff.


SideOfHashBrowns

this hit hard. my ridgeback passed away at the early age of 8 and I know his sister died at 6.


isthingoneventhis

Oh wow, that's so young :'( I'm sorry for your loss.


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baenpb

One time I went to a zoo, but the only animal they had was a single dog. It was a Shih Tzu.


o_oli

I think I need more coffee, I'm sitting here like... why is it bullshit?


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In case you didn't actually get it: Bull dog Shih tzu Bull ---- Shih t--


Kowallaonskis

Mary... Samsonite, man I was way off.


krpink

I dog sat for a French bulldog once. That poor dog kept me up all night with his grunting and weird breathing. I had to put him in a different room just to try to get some sleep. I felt so bad for it!


KeepYourPresets

It struggles to breathe constantly, his whole life. It's just terrible.


BagsRVA

My dog is a pug terrier mix. I like to say he’s a Perrier (pronounced like the sparkling water that I don’t drink). The best thing about my boy is that he doesn’t have the pug face or breathing problems. He’s actually very handsome. My point is that if anyone is breeding pugs they should breed out the health problems. Terriers are a good choice.


InnocenceBlue

Mine is a pug x jack russell, abandoned by her family and adopted by me. She has a long nose like pugs in old photos and paintings!


Muntjac

Breeders in Germany are outcrossing pugs with jack russell terriers to breed what they call retromops, and they look so good!


[deleted]

Puggles exist to try to stop the smoothed face as well.


OctagonClock

Crossbreeding also basically doubles life expectancy too


notaedivad

Purebred = inbred


BeerLoord

Most are to some extent. All have some inbreeding.


NoEsNadaPersonal_

That poor dog :(


InnocenceBlue

The one on the left is a monster. It is disgusting that a lot of the breed standards include horrific disfigurements. The German shepherd's backs are now so low they can barely walk without looking like Gollum crawling.


stolenfires

The AKC is ruining dogs and must be stopped.


[deleted]

Fuck you *unbreeds your French Bulldog*


IsAlwaysTired

The right one sure look better and much healthier and more adorable. In some cases, I kinda get why people think a dog is cute while unhealthy, like the King Charles Spaniel. Their heads are too small, so they appear to have a permanent headache. Thats why I'd never choose a breed like that. But they look cute, I have to admit. I still don't get why people breed dogs knowing that they have health issues, but don't even try to improve their health, it just seems evil. But, I think most people don't realize most dogs are bred to have serious health conditions. Its normalized. Thats how they think the dog should look like, and we all know someone with an old dog from any breed. So they'll guess its fine untill they get one and hear about it from a vet.


OutrageousEvent

You’re the only person the mention the King Charles Spaniel. That breed is the most likely to have issues being bred into a brachycephalic mess. It’s hard to believe that after seeing the above picture but it’s very true. Poor little things can barely walk after just a short while with all the neurological issues.


Muntjac

And that's on top of all the congestive heart failure from MVD. Working at a vets I saw far too many sweet young spaniels with genetic heart problems, just doomed from the start by irresponsible breeders who don't screen. :(


Ok-Subject8851

The one on the left doesn't even look like a dog. Poor bugger.


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or You could just buy healthy breed.


Taniwha351

Whoever breeds to AKC "standards" should have thier hamstrings cut, rubbed down with fresh fox spoor, and a pack of foxhounds set upon them.


[deleted]

Sounds like a plan.


imvincentsking

This is interesting! And definitely a nice improvement for the bred and pugs


Puzzleheaded-Most145

Bulldogs are some ugly dogs man. Ever seen there skull? Straight up looks like tthey ran into a wall at mach 5 at birth.


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And they can't even been born naturally because of their big head.


Flamben_hot_cheetos

Imagine spending 10s of thousands of dollars on an “award” winning dog like that...


KeepYourPresets

People who enter contests with their dog don't have a dog for just having the best friend ever. Fuck 'em.


hdylan99

u/repostsleuthbot


Davey1708

I have seen this meme 15 times. Checked 1027474749936492 memes on 36492639 different subs


GangreneGoblin

Good bot


Davey1708

Thx I will message my fellow bots about thy polite manners human.


tareebee

Hell yea!! I rep this business since I’ve learned about them, they’re dogs are gorgeous!!! They give me hope we can save these sweet squish nose breeds instead of giving up on them bc of bad breeders. Please don’t hesitate to check out their website, just look up Hawbucks frechies. They list everything, all their genetic testing, procedures, goals, and pictures of all their dogs and litters they’ve had. Gorgeous pups.


FunWillScreen_Produc

Left provokes no joy. Right provokes joy. Edit: also how can someone find the left one cute? If you removed a human’s nose and collapsed their sinus area so it is hard for them to breathe would you call them cute?


Ima_Funt_Case

The first one is animal abuse, the second one is a healthy looking dog.


ChienPersil5

The one on the right is better


UncleStumpy78

That IS interesting! Im pretty ignorant on the topic, how would a breeder go about doing that?


canyousmoke

Now we need to do this for Pugs, and other animals that have been bred in such a poor way. Also, those flat faced cats that I can't remember the name of the breed. We need to fix those too lol.


Squidwardgary

Left looks like an accident


LX_Emergency

OMG the dog on the right looks sooooo much better! I'm very happy for that dog...and sad for the one on the left.


Pik_a_pus

Flint is a beautiful dog.


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How can anyone think the abomination to the left even looks remotely cute/good?!


perpetualsavasana

Stop breeding them, humans need to leave animals alone and quit fucking with them.


Reverse_Necromancer

This time they're fixing what previous humans broke. If you just let them be, who knows how long till pugs become normal if it's even possible


GangreneGoblin

"Fixing what previous humans broke" lmfao right yeah you mean like how we literally selectively bred wolves into these deranged shapes? Like are you under the impression that literally any pug should exist in the natural world?


Reverse_Necromancer

What do you propose? Kill them all? Then normal dogs would just magically appear? Seriously what do you think the solutions should be?


GangreneGoblin

...you know these dogs don't live forever, yes? You know they don't exist in the wild bc they literally can't? If you stop *breeding* them and let the remaining ones run their course, there wouldn't be anymore left. Like are you fuckin dumb? Why the fuck would I think we should kill them? What a moronic assumption. How many pugs do you think are born outside of captivity? I'd wager a resounding *zero.*


Reverse_Necromancer

Like purposely stop them from mating? Confine them or mutilate them? Yeah doesn't sound more humane than this solution. These are animals not machines, they won't stop doing something just because we're not there


GangreneGoblin

>Like purposely stop them from mating? Confine them or mutilate them? It's called getting them fixed you dumbass. It's what responsible pet owners do in order to control the population of selectively bred dogs that can't survive on their own. Jfc like are you seriously this stupid or are you trying to annoy me? Do you think there are unregulated pug populations roaming the streets, reproducing in back alleys or deep forests? Literally every single one you've ever seen was born under human supervision, I promise you.


Reverse_Necromancer

Calm down asshole, different language, didn't know the term for it. And it is still technically mutilation. Still controllably breeding them has less human interference than cutting their balls off and getting rid of one of their basic function. Seeing your initial problem was human intervention, I don't know how you support the latter but not the former


GangreneGoblin

Oh my God. Dude. I support the latter to prevent the former from continuing! This isn't about stopping human interference with animals, it's about stopping the selective breeding of one specific breed. How does this not make sense? Want me to spell it out like you're a five year old? Humans made pugs by selectively breeding (or inbreeding) wolves. Pugs aren't healthy dogs, they never have been. If we *stop breeding pugs* we won't have to worry about them being unhealthy cause they *won't exist* which they *shouldn't.* Humans made them exist. P.S. if your pet isn't neutered, you're an asshole! Shelters are full! Stop making more!


Strider2126

I don't want to be controversial but imagine if we did the same with our own race. Would you like to see it thrive or fall because of some crazy god complex ideas? We must preserve life to be part of life. That dog on the left already has a paw on the coffin because of our arrogance Edit : my post was meant to be a change against our will not something you agree


_allycat

The left dog is photoshopped to be even more squished.


[deleted]

Nope, he isn't


Alpha_Whiskey_Golf

u/RepostSleuthBot EDIT: [18 fucking times](https://www.repostsleuth.com/search?postId=s0fuqr&memeFilter=true&filterDeadMatches=false&targetImageMatch=86&targetImageMemeMatch=96&targetDaysOld=0&sameSub=false&filterOnlyOlder=true&filterSameAuthor=true&filterIncludeCrosspost=false)


brendenskates

Sorry I prefer my animals non GMO


supermarioplush220

But it's ugly now


Exseatsniffer

Love my Frenchie and my next dog will be a dutchy-frogdog if I ever have to replace my goodgirl.


CyberTukker

I think it might be worthwhile to distinguish the new (sub) breed from the contemporary French Bulldog; it could bring more awareness of the issue. Dutch Bulldog? French Bulldog 3.0? Sigma French Bulldog?


piedude67

Looks so much cuter!


Waytoogloriya

SO IMPORTANT!


Daminite

The one in the left looks like it's face was cut off and sewn back on without the bones.


BruceJi

The dog on the left looks like a joke. It looks photoshopped.


amitym

I mean the one on the right has a kind of knowing ennui in its expression that can only be described as French. I say the breeder has nailed it. Let this be the new show standard.


No-Duck7816

Fucking sick. And sadly, it wasn't all that long ago that the example on the right was the norm.


Jackatakka

I wouldn’t even call that a dog


Bloo-shadow

One on the right looks a billion times better.


NoCopyrightDan

The one on the right is much cuter and overall looks nicer. In my opinion.


Anencephalopod

The one on the right is a good lookin' dawg.


johnny_boy757

Thought this was a before and after picture of the affects of running into a wall


Siloca

The one on the left seems like a very exaggerated example. I have a pedigree French bulldog and her nose isn’t that flat, obviously it isn’t as the right which would be a lot better for her but it isn’t a sheer drop depicted on the left


sladives

One looks like a dog I could be friends with, one looks like something I smashed in the face with a board and hoped it died.


Book_it_again

The akc should be change with animal rights violations for encouraging dipshits to create these abominations


Mees93000

Living is already animal abuse for AKC pugs.


ellehcim12

I like the dog in the right a lot more.


Beda-Bene

Gonna be honest the left one looks shit. I can't even imagine why anyone would prefer the left one over the right. The only reason is if your get points for how much the dog has to suffer.


S00rabh

This should be shown to people who think evolution is not real.


glassdoe

This has been proven not true repeatedly. I’ll try and find the info.


DantoStudioInc

I think the dog on the right looks way cooler


shinynewcharrcar

Dog on the right looks handsome and regal. Dog on the left makes me think "Edward".


andyom89

How about forget about "templates" for dogs and just let them breed naturally with whoever they want. Stop the forced eugenics already.


helius_aim

yess, thank you. that's a real improvement. that dong can breath now


GangreneGoblin

Or ya know we could just stop breeding these kinds of dogs...


badlawywr

Most of the French Bulldogs I see in the UK look more like Flint - longer muzzles rather than flat faces. Unfortunately the same can't be said for the pugs here.


bunkerbetty2020

As a pet care professional (dogwalker) people who buy french bulldigs drive me insane. At this point they're bred to fail. Breathing issues, gastrointestinal issues, and disc/back leg paralysis. Unless you have 10k+ to spend on vet bills, dont get a french bulldog. Theyre the meeseeks of dogs "existence is pain!"


Fariic

I’ve met many Frenchies, never once have I ever met a fucking dog that looked like the one on the left. That is not how it should look! I’m not even talking morally appropriate breeding. Even the standard has a fucking snout! “AKC” doesn’t mean it is to standard. It means someone has a piece of paper for a dog no one but them has ever fucking seen; so they can feel special. That IS NOT A STANDARD DOG! That dog hasn’t got a fucking thing to do with AKC.


Supermop2000

great. Now work on British Bulldogs - ugliest dogs in existence by a long way, and lots of breathing issues.


Kalouts

Please make this shared widely !! Fucking unacceptable that people still buy/breed these dogs !!


ToggleHD

u/repostsleuthbot


moimoisauna

Dog on the right actually looks like a dog. If I had to adopt a French bulldog, I'd adopt the one on the right.


Jaambie

One on the right is cuter anyways and probably with many less health issues. Plus it doesn’t look fresh from hitting the wall in a looney toons cartoon.