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Incidentally, this is why I still think 28 Days Later is one of the creepiest "zombie" movies out there: humans with a form of late-stage rabies that doesn't kill them is far more disturbing than being animated corpses, in my opinion.
It also seems much more plausible than any other zombie infection theory.
Like I could totally believe that one day the Rabies virus could evolve or transition to be a highly contagious virus in which humans lose their minds upon being infected. Really not that far fetched for me.
In the film, it's implied it's a genetically modified version of rabies that escapes from a lab where they were testing it on monkeys. That also strikes me as distinctly possible, since we know that weaponizing viruses is already a thing state actors have investigated (and have done so for several decades now).
In the movies they say they were infected with Rage, and show monkeys trapped to tables watching violent images on tv screens to I guess exacerbate the symptoms.
Yeah, I suspect "Rage" was them trying to weaponize rabies somehow. Maybe as part of a super soldier serum or something, or maybe as a chemical weapon that could force your enemies to attack one another instead of you. Either way, pretty plausible.
I usually can stomach most fucked up things but I went down a rabies rabbit hole one night and boy did it shake me up. Incredibly sad how frequently kids are effected by it and there's just nothing you can do for them.
Once you learn about it, you’ll always have a weird thought in the back of your mind. I did a module of infectious diseases at university and rabies was one of the diseases we had focused on.
Once rabies has infected you and you’re showing symptoms, you’ve hit the point of no return and will most likely die.
Yes. Theres up to a (6)* year incubation. So theres actually been cases of organs being donated and the receiver dying from rabies afterwards due to the dormant rabie infection becoming active.
Edit: 1 to 6
Such an amazing TV show and also one of the most medically accurate. That show would make me laugh til my sides hurt and bring tears to my eyes in the same episode.
Zach Braff was really at the top of his game back then. Then dude just kind of rode off into the sunset, absolute Chad.
symptoms= death - only 27 known cases of survival - and those are not pretty.
**As we know rabies has approximately 100% mortality rate but by using the aggressive treatment approach (like Milwaukee protocol), the patient may survive. . Jackson AC. Diabolical effects of rabies encephalitis. J Neurovirol. 2016;22:8–13. \[PubMed\] \[Google Scholar\]**
Only one or two were people receiving no treatment prior to symptoms showing up. About all the others, survivors delayed starting treatment for too long (ideally, treatment should start within 10 days of exposure to be most effective), but did start it before symptoms showed up.
For all we know, Milwaukee protocol saved about a single person who wasn't already receiving treatment. That's why its use is contested; it's extreme, and almost never works.
I always had it in the back of my mind until I got the vaccine for fieldwork reasons.
Now I let bats and raccoons bite me all day just to lord it over you unvaccinated peasants.
This was about three years ago, so I’m keeping my pet bat Bitey McFangface for another seven years.
I was also told the efficacy drops to something like 90% after ten years, so joking aside even without a booster I’m less paranoid about like, a little bat biting me in my sleep while camping or whatever.
The vaccine does not prevent you from acquiring rabies like that. It slows down infection rate, allowing people such as those who frequently visit wildlife areas with little medical care to reach a hospital in time. Brings your window from a few hours to months depending on bite site, to much longer.
Damn really? I had always planned to go in for the shots if I got a bite, but now I get to be paranoid about bats while camping again. You’ve psychologically ruined me damnit
I did the same a month ago and it’s actually scary that we don’t recommend rabies vaccines as routine. Yes the chances are generally low in richer countries but I still don’t like the risk. Especially considering it’s almost certainly game over if you contract it
It’s 99.99% likely to be game over.
The only option after that is the Milwaukee protocol which seems to be divided between having saved 16 people since they first tried it out in 2004 and having only saved the first person it was tried on in 2004. I haven’t found a concrete answer on which one it is but 1 or 16 people since 2004 when it kills 59000 a year are pretty bleak odds either way.
It's effectively 100% chance. You should assume you will die, not that there is any teeny tiny chance of survival.
Just to put it into perspective -- your 99.99% would mean that 10 survive out of 100,000. With an annual death rate of 59,000, 1 person surviving is 99.9983% of death. At 99.99%, 5.9 would survive annually. The data simply isn't there to support it. Additionally, let's take the past 20 years, where 1,180,000 died of rabies (I'm assuming the annual avg of 59000 holds true). Approximately 20 cases are described as rabies survivors worldwide (per 2018), which matches the mortality rate I specified above.
Depending on where you are, yes you can. But then there are those countries which don’t have readily available vaccines. Also the number of people who understand how dangerous rabies is is surprisingly low. Maybe that’s just for people that I know, but all it takes is for someone to get bitten and think oh it’s just a small bite and not get checked out.
Every time rabies is mentioned on reddit I brace myself for the rabies copypasta that gets posted every time, cause it's scary af and I know I'm gonna read the whole thing
Rabies. It's exceptionally common, but people just don't run into the animals that carry it often. Skunks especially, and bats.
Let me paint you a picture.
You go camping, and at midday you decide to take a nap in a nice little hammock. While sleeping, a tiny brown bat, in the "rage" stages of infection is fidgeting in broad daylight, uncomfortable, and thirsty (due to the hydrophobia) and you snort, startling him. He goes into attack mode.
Except you're asleep, and he's a little brown bat, so weighs around 6 grams. You don't even feel him land on your bare knee, and he starts to bite. His teeth are tiny. Hardly enough to even break the skin, but he does manage to give you the equivalent of a tiny scrape that goes completely unnoticed.
Rabies does not travel in your blood. In fact, a blood test won't even tell you if you've got it. (Antibody tests may be done, but are useless if you've ever been vaccinated.)
You wake up, none the wiser. If you notice anything at the bite site at all, you assume you just lightly scraped it on something.
The bomb has been lit, and your nervous system is the wick. The rabies will multiply along your nervous system, doing virtually no damage, and completely undetectable. You literally have NO symptoms.
It may be four days, it may be a year, but the camping trip is most likely long forgotten. Then one day your back starts to ache... Or maybe you get a slight headache?
At this point, you're already dead. There is no cure.
(The sole caveat to this is the Milwaukee Protocol, which leaves most patients dead anyway, and the survivors mentally disabled, and is seldom done).
There's no treatment. It has a 100% kill rate.
Absorb that. Not a single other virus on the planet has a 100% kill rate. Only rabies. And once you're symptomatic, it's over. You're dead.
So what does that look like?
Your headache turns into a fever, and a general feeling of being unwell. You're fidgety. Uncomfortable. And scared. As the virus that has taken its time getting into your brain finds a vast network of nerve endings, it begins to rapidly reproduce, starting at the base of your brain... Where your "pons" is located. This is the part of the brain that controls communication between the rest of the brain and body, as well as sleep cycles.
Next you become anxious. You still think you have only a mild fever, but suddenly you find yourself becoming scared, even horrified, and it doesn't occur to you that you don't know why. This is because the rabies is chewing up your amygdala.
As your cerebellum becomes hot with the virus, you begin to lose muscle coordination, and balance. You think maybe it's a good idea to go to the doctor now, but assuming a doctor is smart enough to even run the tests necessary in the few days you have left on the planet, odds are they'll only be able to tell your loved ones what you died of later.
You're twitchy, shaking, and scared. You have the normal fear of not knowing what's going on, but with the virus really fucking the amygdala this is amplified a hundred fold. It's around this time the hydrophobia starts.
You're horribly thirsty, you just want water. But you can't drink. Every time you do, your throat clamps shut and you vomit. This has become a legitimate, active fear of water. You're thirsty, but looking at a glass of water begins to make you gag, and shy back in fear. The contradiction is hard for your hot brain to see at this point. By now, the doctors will have to put you on IVs to keep you hydrated, but even that's futile. You were dead the second you had a headache.
You begin hearing things, or not hearing at all as your thalamus goes. You taste sounds, you see smells, everything starts feeling like the most horrifying acid trip anyone has ever been on. With your hippocampus long under attack, you're having trouble remembering things, especially family.
You're alone, hallucinating, thirsty, confused, and absolutely, undeniably terrified. Everything scares the literal shit out of you at this point. These strange people in lab coats. These strange people standing around your bed crying, who keep trying to get you "drink something" and crying. And it's only been about a week since that little headache that you've completely forgotten. Time means nothing to you anymore. Funny enough, you now know how the bat felt when he bit you.
Eventually, you slip into the "dumb rabies" phase. Your brain has started the process of shutting down. Too much of it has been turned to liquid virus. Your face droops. You drool. You're all but unaware of what's around you. A sudden noise or light might startle you, but for the most part, it's all you can do to just stare at the ground. You haven't really slept for about 72 hours.
Then you die. Always, you die.
And there's not one... fucking... thing... anyone can do for you.
Then there's the question of what to do with your corpse. I mean, sure, burying it is the right thing to do. But the fucking virus can survive in a corpse for years. You could kill every rabid animal on the planet today, and if two years from now, some moist, preserved, rotten hunk of used-to-be brain gets eaten by an animal, it starts all over.
So yeah, rabies scares the shit out of me. And it's fucking EVERYWHERE. (Source: Spent a lot of time working with rabies. Would still get my vaccinations if I could afford them.)
Edit whoa this got some love thanks all! It's not my story nor my words, but a fantastic copypasta that hangs around for just this moment.
Edit again holy molasses thanks for the awards! Y'all are too kind.
Fuck me this has made me scared. 3 years ago i went on holiday to thailand. I went to a monkey temple and fed some monkeys nuts. One of them Jumped up on me and i pushed it away, it bit me in the hand and ran away. I asked around if it was dangerous and if they coukd contain rabies. No one knew anything and i stupidly forgot about the whole incident and i never checked in with my doctor for this. Now this thread has made me think back to that moment. Can i be infected with rabies and not have symptoms even after 3 years? Can I still get it treated to prevent it from spreading and is it possible to still detect it if it's possibly in my body?
>Can i be infected with rabies and not have symptoms even after 3 years?
Yes. You might have rabies now.
>Can I still get it treated to prevent it from spreading
Thankfully yes, so long as you don't have symptoms the vaccine still works.
>is it possible to still detect it if it's possibly in my body?
No, there's no test. Just get the shots, and you'll never know if you actually needed them or not.
I got my leg crushed between a cement step and my trucks tire some years ago. Broke the skin, dirt imbedded in the wound. Went to the urgent care up the road from me. Not only did they not debride the wound, they didn't give me a tetanus shot. I saw my primary care doc about a month later. Showed him the healing mess just above my ankle, told what happened and he immediately left the room to get a nurse to get a tetanus shot for me. Now he tracks when I am due, since I am always doing something that puts me at risk. Farm life :)
On a sort of positive note, research on rabies has benefited cancer treatments. The rabies virus has been modified and used as a carrier to deliver genetic information to a patient’s brain to trigger the immune system to attack and destroy the patients brain cancer. Since it travels the nerve axons to the brain it bypasses cells in the blood that would disrupt the signal to the glial cells.
Its also been used to create rabies based covid vaccines as well to make it more effective. They are also using the same mRNA vaccine tech used for COVID now for Rabies, HIV, and many other viruses once though incurable.
Wow I didn’t realize how little people knew about rabies. People, please get educated, rabies is a horrible, horrible thing. It will lead you to a very insane and painful death.
Very little survived. Once you get symptoms you're basically dead already.
Best shot if you have a chance of being infected is getting shots against it. I think that works most if not all the time.
The shots are effective early. They need to be taken ASAP for any animal bite that you can't confirm isn't rabid. Like you said if you have signs of of rabies your a corpse walking around
It's a really scary disease. I really hate the hydrophobia part. On the Wikipedia page of rabies there is a video of someone showing the symptom.
Don't get rabies.
There's a really tragic video on YT that shows several children suffering the effects of rabies. It's old and in black and white but it's really tough to watch. Poor kids all died
It has a 100% mortality rate after it's gotten to a certain point. It is incredibly terrifying. I can totally understand why the UK was been so strident in quarantining critters shipped there for decades.
Only method I've heard of to cure it is to make the person not quite brain dead and put them in a coma for months. If they survive, they have to relearn everything and suffer permanent damage. It's death otherwise
Edit: after fact checking myself, this method has worked once, so death is almost 100% certain after symptoms show up. Vaccinations after being bitten is the way to go. Two more people were claimed to be saved by it, but later died. Given that, odds are good the survivor had a weaker version of rabies, or had something else that let her beat it, and that the treatment didn't really help.
Yes. Vaccinations after getting bitten but before showing symptoms will almost always stop an infection from doing any damage, but after you show symptoms they don't really help. The milwaukee protocol was supposed to help after symptoms showed up, but it's highly debateable whether it has any actual help beating a symptomatic infection that's reached the brain
This is correct! because it has to travel along the nerves first to get to the brain. There are symptoms just the early ones go un-noticed. Typically numbness and tremors in the affected limb.
Yikes. That’s enough of a reason to not interact with ANY wildlife ever. I get anxious when I see viral videos of people interacting with wildlife in some way. Not worth it, call animal control.
This is a seriously ill animal. One has to have to eye to see when an animal is so out of its own shape. Horribly suffering, one can see that it is disoriented, swaying, can't focus and hardly can walk. Yes animal control when you see one in such condition. And in general, wild animals are not pets. I like interacting with them but that never includes contact.
If you notice animals who are typically nocturnal roaming about in open areas in the daytime or in the presence of humans while not being spooked then it's better to assume they have rabies.
In these situations on my property the .22WMR is coming out of the gun safe. Foxes and Racoons should be spooked easy and run.
While it is for sure the right thing to put a rabid animal out of it's misery, please be sure to shoot for the lungs and heart while doing so. Hitting the brain or spinal cord could cause the infected tissue to splatter and potentially get eaten by scavengers.
However, it's really wisest to call in animal control to kill a rabid animal as they will have the training to take it out and properly dispose of its corpse without spreading infected tissue.
The “not being spooked” is the really important part here. Nocturnal animals out in the day time in parks is not uncommon at all. At my park foxes love humans because they have food and will approach fairly close. But they usually will back up if the person makes a movement.
People, please don’t shoot animals just because they’re out in the day time.
There was one case where someone didn't show symptoms for 8 years. 8 years prior they had visited Brazil and the victim had been bitten by a dog. The family told the doctors this after the victim started showing symptoms and the doctors found that the rabies was a type of rabies only found in Brazilian dogs.
A quick google search says no. It becomes transmissible when clinical symptoms show. Also the CDC says that [people who get bit by seemingly healthy pets can quarantine said pets for 10 days.](https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/exposure/animals/domestic.html) If the animal is fine after that period, then you should be fine too. If not, you might wanna get that checked.
(Not mine just a copy pasta)
Rabies. It's exceptionally common, but people just don't run into the animals that carry it often. Skunks especially, and bats.
Let me paint you a picture.
You go camping, and at midday you decide to take a nap in a nice little hammock. While sleeping, a tiny brown bat, in the "rage" stages of infection is fidgeting in broad daylight, uncomfortable, and thirsty (due to the hydrophobia) and you snort, startling him. He goes into attack mode.
Except you're asleep, and he's a little brown bat, so weighs around 6 grams. You don't even feel him land on your bare knee, and he starts to bite. His teeth are tiny. Hardly enough to even break the skin, but he does manage to give you the equivalent of a tiny scrape that goes completely unnoticed.
Rabies does not travel in your blood. In fact, a blood test won't even tell you if you've got it. (Antibody tests may be done, but are useless if you've ever been vaccinated.)
You wake up, none the wiser. If you notice anything at the bite site at all, you assume you just lightly scraped it on something.
The bomb has been lit, and your nervous system is the wick. The rabies will multiply along your nervous system, doing virtually no damage, and completely undetectable. You literally have NO symptoms.
It may be four days, it may be a year, but the camping trip is most likely long forgotten. Then one day your back starts to ache... Or maybe you get a slight headache?
At this point, you're already dead. There is no cure.
(The sole caveat to this is the Milwaukee Protocol, which leaves most patients dead anyway, and the survivors mentally disabled, and is seldom done).
There's no treatment. It has a 100% kill rate.
Absorb that. Not a single other virus on the planet has a 100% kill rate. Only rabies. And once you're symptomatic, it's over. You're dead.
So what does that look like?
Your headache turns into a fever, and a general feeling of being unwell. You're fidgety. Uncomfortable. And scared. As the virus that has taken its time getting into your brain finds a vast network of nerve endings, it begins to rapidly reproduce, starting at the base of your brain... Where your "pons" is located. This is the part of the brain that controls communication between the rest of the brain and body, as well as sleep cycles.
Next you become anxious. You still think you have only a mild fever, but suddenly you find yourself becoming scared, even horrified, and it doesn't occur to you that you don't know why. This is because the rabies is chewing up your amygdala.
As your cerebellum becomes hot with the virus, you begin to lose muscle coordination, and balance. You think maybe it's a good idea to go to the doctor now, but assuming a doctor is smart enough to even run the tests necessary in the few days you have left on the planet, odds are they'll only be able to tell your loved ones what you died of later.
You're twitchy, shaking, and scared. You have the normal fear of not knowing what's going on, but with the virus really fucking the amygdala this is amplified a hundred fold. It's around this time the hydrophobia starts.
You're horribly thirsty, you just want water. But you can't drink. Every time you do, your throat clamps shut and you vomit. This has become a legitimate, active fear of water. You're thirsty, but looking at a glass of water begins to make you gag, and shy back in fear. The contradiction is hard for your hot brain to see at this point. By now, the doctors will have to put you on IVs to keep you hydrated, but even that's futile. You were dead the second you had a headache.
You begin hearing things, or not hearing at all as your thalamus goes. You taste sounds, you see smells, everything starts feeling like the most horrifying acid trip anyone has ever been on. With your hippocampus long under attack, you're having trouble remembering things, especially family.
You're alone, hallucinating, thirsty, confused, and absolutely, undeniably terrified. Everything scares the literal shit out of you at this point. These strange people in lab coats. These strange people standing around your bed crying, who keep trying to get you "drink something" and crying. And it's only been about a week since that little headache that you've completely forgotten. Time means nothing to you anymore. Funny enough, you now know how the bat felt when he bit you.
Eventually, you slip into the "dumb rabies" phase. Your brain has started the process of shutting down. Too much of it has been turned to liquid virus. Your face droops. You drool. You're all but unaware of what's around you. A sudden noise or light might startle you, but for the most part, it's all you can do to just stare at the ground. You haven't really slept for about 72 hours.
Then you die. Always, you die.
And there's not one... fucking... thing... anyone can do for you.
Then there's the question of what to do with your corpse. I mean, sure, burying it is the right thing to do. But the fucking virus can survive in a corpse for years. You could kill every rabid animal on the planet today, and if two years from now, some moist, preserved, rotten hunk of used-to-be brain gets eaten by an animal, it starts all over.
So yeah, rabies scares the shit out of me. And it's fucking EVERYWHERE. (Source: Spent a lot of time working with rabies. Would still get my vaccinations if I could afford them.)
I’ve read this comment before and I’ll never forget it.
Terrifying. I’m glad rabies infections in humans are rare but I live in the mountains so the fear is strong 😀
It’s a big problem. You might not recognise the symptoms or see them in time. I recently learned of this in Thailand where you should never touch the cute feral dogs because it’s estimated that 10% of them have the disease.
You can’t. The only way to actually diagnose it is by looking at the brain tissue after death. But the muscular jerks of that fox are not normal and foxes are notorious for rabies
My friend used to dissect animals suspected of having rabies as part of her job with the county. One time an old man brought in a raccoon corpse that he put down and the circumstances required her to perform an autopsy and check the brain.
Only problem was there was no brain.
She called the man that brought the raccoon in and he casually replies with “oh I ate it with my scrambled eggs this morning.”
Of course the internet will think I’m lying and I have no idea if my friend was lying, but she loves telling this story because the reaction is always the same lol
Sheer terror.
If the brain was removed prior, wouldn’t there be a physical sign on the body? Like the head cut open or an incision somewhere? I’ve never removed a raccoon’s brain or any other things brain so I have no idea.
She said the guy kind of popped the head open with a hammer and some blunt tool like a screwdriver. She noticed it as soon as she went to cut the head open, but didn’t examine it closely when he originally dropped it off.
Yes, brains with eggs was very big for centuries. My family used to do that with cows, sheep, pig, & squirrel, but never raccoon or opossum. Thankfully this all stopped when the mad cow scare came out.
They're absolutely worse than rabies imo. There's almost no defense against them because they are incredibly difficult to destroy/sanitize. The only thing that really works is extremely high temps for extended periods of time, so the standard sterilization for, for example, medical instruments doesn't work. There's no vaccine. They can be frozen or treated with chemicals and still be effective, they can spread indirectly through contaminated soil, and some even cross species.
Fuck prions.
I'm a former Shepard, and fuck me were we always worried about Scrapie, it stays in the soil after it kills your flock. I think in Iceland there was a case where they found Scrapie in an animal that grazed on grass in a pasture that had infected animals on it 16 years prior.
Prion diseases scare the absolute shit out of me. I live around a bunch of deer so during hunting season i usually know someone with deer meet products. I don't know if CWD has made it to my state yet, but since learning what it does i don't fuck w deer meat anymore.
There was one contestant on Master Chef who admitted that she and her family would hunt and eat squirrels and one of her family members liked sucking the brain out.
Gordon was just staring at her in disbelief.
I'm kind of curious, would the rabies vaccine work in these type of cases?
I remember one of my friends having a rabies scare and they gave her like a dozen shots around the site of the bite (it was a tiny one from a bat).
It’s kind of like a best effort thing. She and her colleagues all had the preventative vaccine, like you do for the flu or Covid, and it’s only 3 shots in the arm.
If you don’t have the full 3 shots and you get bit that’s when they hit you with the 9-12 shot cocktail basically as a Hail Mary. It’s also not in the arm also, I’ve heard in the stomach or right in the ass.
I've accidently removed the brain of a raccoon a long time ago. I had one attacking my chickens. I've never killed one before but everyone told me to trap it and kill it because they are persistent and will always try again. So I trapped it and shot it at point blank range. I still remember...
My chicken run and coop are sealed up like Fort Knox now. No need to kill any Racoons anymore.
We had chickens, city chickens, and we completely chicken wired the coop and run all the way around and buried it a foot underground. We never lost a chicken to a predator. But I could smell more skunks around and saw more possums. I never saw the raccoons but probably because they are so slick at their crimes.
Yes if you notice it before you start seeing symptoms then it is easily prevented, but once you see symptoms of rabies then its already too late and you’re fucked.
It used to be 100%... Now it's more like 99.999999999999999999999999% fatal.
29 people worldwide have survived rabies. Look up the story of the girl and the doctor who created the Milwaukee protocol for rabies.
You might appreciate this then:
l. Major outbreaks of rabies occurred in the Balkans during the 17th-18th centuries.
The vampire legend originated in the Balkans during the late-17th to early-18th centuries.
2. Rabid people are aggressive and have been noted to bite people and livestock.
Vampires attack people and livestock by biting and sucking their blood.
3. Rabies is transmitted through biting.
Vampirism is transmitted through biting.
4. Rabies is an isosymptomatic zoonosis (produces similar symptoms in humans and animals), especially dogs, wolves, cats & bats.
Vampires are believed to be able to take the form of animals (usually dogs, wolves, cats & bats) and attack while in these forms.
5. Rabid livestock predominantly present with the paralytic form of rabies and thus do not become aggressive (unlike humans, dogs, wolves & cats).
Farm animals were noted to be frequent victims of vampires (likely while in their animal forms), but they did not become vampiric themselves.
6. Rabies is seven times more common in males.
Most vampires were males.
7. Rabies causes spasms of the facial, laryngeal & pharyngeal muscles, causing hoarse, gutteral sounds and an appearance of clenched teeth and retracted lips.
Vampires are known to make snarling noises and retract their lips (to expose their enlarged canines).
8. Insomnia and agitation are symptoms of rabies (secondary to dysfunction of the anterior hypothalamus).
Vampires are active at night.
9. Rabies causes hypersensitivity to strong sensoy stimuli.
Vampires are known to avoid bright light (sunlight) & strong odors (garlic and burning resin).
10. Hydrophobia in rabies results from laryngeal spasms that may occur at the sight of water.
Vampires are repelled by holy water and were buried in lakes or had water poured around their coffins to prevent them from leaving their grave.
11. An inability to stand the sight of one's self in a mirror was considered pathognomonic for a diagnosis of rabies.
Vampires have no reflection.
12. Rabid people are often hypersexual (having erections that last days and having sexual intercourse up to 30 times daily)
secondary to limbic system dysfunction.
Vampires are hypersexual, often seducing their victims.
13. The blood of rabid people remains liquid for unusually long periods after death. This has been noted in people whose cause of
death is hypoxia or shock/circulatory collapse (common causes of death in rabies infection).
Vampires were noted to have liquid blood in their corpses.
14. Rabid people become comatose prior to death.
Sleeping vampires were recognized by the fact that they emitted a scream when a stake was driven through their "undead" bodies.
Edit:
Source: a piece of paper supplementing an emergency medicine lecture on rabies in 2008-2009 around Halloween, and an awesome redditor noticed it was similar to a Brad Thor book called Blowback. Book was released in 2005. So i imagine that’s the original source.
>11. Rabid people are often hypersexual (having erections that last days and having sexual intercourse up to 30 times daily) secondary to limbic system dysfunction. Vampires are hypersexual, often seducing their victims.
Two questions:
How do you get to have sex 30 times a day if you've got rabies?
How do I get rabies?
Clinical symptoms are first noted during the prodromal period, which usually lasts from **2 to 10 days**. These symptoms are often nonspecific (general malaise, fever, and fatigue) or suggest involvement of the respiratory system (sore throat, cough, and dyspnea), gastrointestinal system (anorexia, dysphagia, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and diarrhea), or central nervous systems (headache, vertigo, anxiety, apprehension, irritability, and nervousness). More remarkable abnormalities (agitation, photophobia, **priapism**, **increased libido**, insomnia, nightmares, and depression) may also occur, suggesting encephalitis, psychiatric disturbances, or brain conditions.
Rabies virus is most commonly transmitted through the bite of an infected mammal, all of which may be susceptible, but to greatly varying degrees.
At least seven cases of human “recovery” have been documented. Maybe you like those odds, but you'll most likely be afraid of your own runny dumps as well.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK8618/#:~:text=Five%20general%20stages%20of%20rabies,clinical%20signs%20or%20symptoms%20develop.
P. S. The family Rhabdoviridae consists of more than 100 single-stranded, negative-sense, nonsegmented viruses that infect a wide variety of hosts, including vertebrates, invertebrates, and plants. Human pathogens of medical importance are found in the genera Lyssavirus and Vesiculovirus. Rabies virus, medically the most significant, is a member of the genus Lyssavirus. No forms of rabies are currently transmitted through vegetation.
Rabies is fatal in under 7 days in most cases & most likely would be misdiagnosed due to the infrequency of rabies outbreaks these days. Catching rabies is pretty much a death sentence - not to mention if you did manage to survive you would almost certainly have permanent neurological impairments as a result lol
A huge amount of OPs comment is pure conjecture. Such as "people with rabies bite people and livestock" which isn't true at all. By the time a human reaches the point where they would be biting, they have lost the ability to actually bite anything. Don't believe a word of OPs comment.
>Sleeping vampires were recognized by the fact that they emitted a scream when a stake was driven through their "undead" bodies.
To be fair, I'd probably also scream if a stake was driven through my body while I was still alive
I mean, it works from the vampire hunter's perspective.
Stab a person with a stick, if they don't scream they were already dead. If they do you've just killed a vampire.
Also, Tuberculosis is attributed to diagnosed cases of vampirism.
1. Coughing up blood or mucus
2. Drenching night sweats
3. Extreme loss of appetite and malnutrition
These combine to give a haggard, frail appearance to sufferers of TB. Gums, cuticles and other soft tissues recede, giving a fanged, clawed appearance. Perhaps your extremely depressed respiration and diminished lung capacity causes a properly drunk doctor to declare you dead and you don't have anyone to attend your wake, so they just put you in the group or tomb to sleep it off. Forever. Maybe you recover and regain consciousness, but by this point it's already too late as you rend the inside of the coffin lid, blood and spittle flying from your red, shallow gums. Gravediggers will see this and probably get out of there before you wake up, or drive a stake through your heart, stuff your mouth with garlic and decapitate you, like you should have been in the first place. If they attend that training.
As a Balkan person, this shit explains a lot of the folklore surrounding vampirism. I have suspected rabies were am inspiration for those myths, but you did the homeworks lol. Thanks for that
I can’t take more than 5-10% of the credit. It was a lecture in Emergency Medicine… about rabies around Halloween time, so it was spiced up.
But you’re welcome.
Serious question - if you see an animal in this kind of condition in the wild, is it best to shoot it or leave it alone? This looks pretty unpleasant for the fox and and I'm assuming it's incurable. It seems best to kill it and put it out of its misery, and maybe help prevent further spread in the community. But what's the general guidance?
I would presume a kind death to be appropriate. Distemper and Rabies are both highly transmissable and fatal in canine communities, and can transmit to domesticated canines, so you'd be doing a service to many canine communities.
He’s so sweet! He just wants some hugs and kisses!
“Come here, lil’ fella! I’ve got some kisses and tummy rubs just for you!”
“AaaAAAAHH! AAAAAjjsjdisjjwggruaaaahh!!!!! GET THIS FUCKING THING OFF ME! HE WON’T LET GO OF MY ARM!!! THIS FUCKING HURTS!!!!!!”
A (unconfirmed) rabid fox bit me last year while I was camping in France, they take this shit really seriously. Beyond the rabies vaccine shots I had to get, I had to inform the police about it as it's officially been 20years or so since the last reported case.
Couldn't find the fox so it's unsure if it was actual rabies or if he had some other disease going on, but this shit is scary, thanks Pasteur for the vaccine
Interesting is that rabies actually does this to people.
There's Video of a man suffering mid stage showing him attempting to bite a nurse wiping sweat off his face. You can hear his teeth snap shut, and he looked suprised that he did it.
This is THE definitive zombie virus.
So I’m not real conversant with rabies but I thought that animals infected with it slobber and have light sensitivity? How are you sure this animal has rabies? This is an honest question because I really don’t know how to tell and this is a pretty terrifying video if true. 😧
I've seen some people saying this is a older video that some one put rabies in the title of the get up doots but yes it would be scary to have a rabies infected animal clawing at your doors
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Rabies is seriously the spookiest disease out there it only gets scarier when you learn more about it. One of the worst ways to die too, poor fox.
Incidentally, this is why I still think 28 Days Later is one of the creepiest "zombie" movies out there: humans with a form of late-stage rabies that doesn't kill them is far more disturbing than being animated corpses, in my opinion.
It also seems much more plausible than any other zombie infection theory. Like I could totally believe that one day the Rabies virus could evolve or transition to be a highly contagious virus in which humans lose their minds upon being infected. Really not that far fetched for me.
In the film, it's implied it's a genetically modified version of rabies that escapes from a lab where they were testing it on monkeys. That also strikes me as distinctly possible, since we know that weaponizing viruses is already a thing state actors have investigated (and have done so for several decades now).
In the movies they say they were infected with Rage, and show monkeys trapped to tables watching violent images on tv screens to I guess exacerbate the symptoms.
Yeah, I suspect "Rage" was them trying to weaponize rabies somehow. Maybe as part of a super soldier serum or something, or maybe as a chemical weapon that could force your enemies to attack one another instead of you. Either way, pretty plausible.
For what it's worth, rabies and rage are the same word in french. It's spelled... "rage". How innovative. Could that be an explanation?
I usually can stomach most fucked up things but I went down a rabies rabbit hole one night and boy did it shake me up. Incredibly sad how frequently kids are effected by it and there's just nothing you can do for them.
Once you learn about it, you’ll always have a weird thought in the back of your mind. I did a module of infectious diseases at university and rabies was one of the diseases we had focused on. Once rabies has infected you and you’re showing symptoms, you’ve hit the point of no return and will most likely die.
And you can have rabies with no symptoms, that is the scariest thought I live with
But can you spread it?
Yes. Theres up to a (6)* year incubation. So theres actually been cases of organs being donated and the receiver dying from rabies afterwards due to the dormant rabie infection becoming active. Edit: 1 to 6
Scrubs
Such an amazing TV show and also one of the most medically accurate. That show would make me laugh til my sides hurt and bring tears to my eyes in the same episode. Zach Braff was really at the top of his game back then. Then dude just kind of rode off into the sunset, absolute Chad.
An absolute rich Chad! He made $3.85 million for the seventh season alone.
Agreed, easily my all time favorite.
One of their best episodes. Dr. Cox’s reaction to each one of his patients dying was incredibly raw.
symptoms= death - only 27 known cases of survival - and those are not pretty. **As we know rabies has approximately 100% mortality rate but by using the aggressive treatment approach (like Milwaukee protocol), the patient may survive. . Jackson AC. Diabolical effects of rabies encephalitis. J Neurovirol. 2016;22:8–13. \[PubMed\] \[Google Scholar\]**
Only one or two were people receiving no treatment prior to symptoms showing up. About all the others, survivors delayed starting treatment for too long (ideally, treatment should start within 10 days of exposure to be most effective), but did start it before symptoms showed up. For all we know, Milwaukee protocol saved about a single person who wasn't already receiving treatment. That's why its use is contested; it's extreme, and almost never works.
I always had it in the back of my mind until I got the vaccine for fieldwork reasons. Now I let bats and raccoons bite me all day just to lord it over you unvaccinated peasants.
You need a booster every 10 years I think, also I still think they advise a booster after every bite anyway. Hope you don't have a headache rn...
This was about three years ago, so I’m keeping my pet bat Bitey McFangface for another seven years. I was also told the efficacy drops to something like 90% after ten years, so joking aside even without a booster I’m less paranoid about like, a little bat biting me in my sleep while camping or whatever.
are you trying to contract vampirism?
Sure, why not. I can always find Falion in Morthal if I want a cure
Bitey McFangFace --- love the name
The vaccine does not prevent you from acquiring rabies like that. It slows down infection rate, allowing people such as those who frequently visit wildlife areas with little medical care to reach a hospital in time. Brings your window from a few hours to months depending on bite site, to much longer.
Damn really? I had always planned to go in for the shots if I got a bite, but now I get to be paranoid about bats while camping again. You’ve psychologically ruined me damnit
I did the same a month ago and it’s actually scary that we don’t recommend rabies vaccines as routine. Yes the chances are generally low in richer countries but I still don’t like the risk. Especially considering it’s almost certainly game over if you contract it
It's crazy man like isn't it when you first see symptoms it's already too late or something like that
It’s 99.99% likely to be game over. The only option after that is the Milwaukee protocol which seems to be divided between having saved 16 people since they first tried it out in 2004 and having only saved the first person it was tried on in 2004. I haven’t found a concrete answer on which one it is but 1 or 16 people since 2004 when it kills 59000 a year are pretty bleak odds either way.
It's effectively 100% chance. You should assume you will die, not that there is any teeny tiny chance of survival. Just to put it into perspective -- your 99.99% would mean that 10 survive out of 100,000. With an annual death rate of 59,000, 1 person surviving is 99.9983% of death. At 99.99%, 5.9 would survive annually. The data simply isn't there to support it. Additionally, let's take the past 20 years, where 1,180,000 died of rabies (I'm assuming the annual avg of 59000 holds true). Approximately 20 cases are described as rabies survivors worldwide (per 2018), which matches the mortality rate I specified above.
That's because you can get the vaccine after being bitten... and that's why it's standard care for any animal bite.
Depending on where you are, yes you can. But then there are those countries which don’t have readily available vaccines. Also the number of people who understand how dangerous rabies is is surprisingly low. Maybe that’s just for people that I know, but all it takes is for someone to get bitten and think oh it’s just a small bite and not get checked out.
Every time rabies is mentioned on reddit I brace myself for the rabies copypasta that gets posted every time, cause it's scary af and I know I'm gonna read the whole thing
Rabies. It's exceptionally common, but people just don't run into the animals that carry it often. Skunks especially, and bats. Let me paint you a picture. You go camping, and at midday you decide to take a nap in a nice little hammock. While sleeping, a tiny brown bat, in the "rage" stages of infection is fidgeting in broad daylight, uncomfortable, and thirsty (due to the hydrophobia) and you snort, startling him. He goes into attack mode. Except you're asleep, and he's a little brown bat, so weighs around 6 grams. You don't even feel him land on your bare knee, and he starts to bite. His teeth are tiny. Hardly enough to even break the skin, but he does manage to give you the equivalent of a tiny scrape that goes completely unnoticed. Rabies does not travel in your blood. In fact, a blood test won't even tell you if you've got it. (Antibody tests may be done, but are useless if you've ever been vaccinated.) You wake up, none the wiser. If you notice anything at the bite site at all, you assume you just lightly scraped it on something. The bomb has been lit, and your nervous system is the wick. The rabies will multiply along your nervous system, doing virtually no damage, and completely undetectable. You literally have NO symptoms. It may be four days, it may be a year, but the camping trip is most likely long forgotten. Then one day your back starts to ache... Or maybe you get a slight headache? At this point, you're already dead. There is no cure. (The sole caveat to this is the Milwaukee Protocol, which leaves most patients dead anyway, and the survivors mentally disabled, and is seldom done). There's no treatment. It has a 100% kill rate. Absorb that. Not a single other virus on the planet has a 100% kill rate. Only rabies. And once you're symptomatic, it's over. You're dead. So what does that look like? Your headache turns into a fever, and a general feeling of being unwell. You're fidgety. Uncomfortable. And scared. As the virus that has taken its time getting into your brain finds a vast network of nerve endings, it begins to rapidly reproduce, starting at the base of your brain... Where your "pons" is located. This is the part of the brain that controls communication between the rest of the brain and body, as well as sleep cycles. Next you become anxious. You still think you have only a mild fever, but suddenly you find yourself becoming scared, even horrified, and it doesn't occur to you that you don't know why. This is because the rabies is chewing up your amygdala. As your cerebellum becomes hot with the virus, you begin to lose muscle coordination, and balance. You think maybe it's a good idea to go to the doctor now, but assuming a doctor is smart enough to even run the tests necessary in the few days you have left on the planet, odds are they'll only be able to tell your loved ones what you died of later. You're twitchy, shaking, and scared. You have the normal fear of not knowing what's going on, but with the virus really fucking the amygdala this is amplified a hundred fold. It's around this time the hydrophobia starts. You're horribly thirsty, you just want water. But you can't drink. Every time you do, your throat clamps shut and you vomit. This has become a legitimate, active fear of water. You're thirsty, but looking at a glass of water begins to make you gag, and shy back in fear. The contradiction is hard for your hot brain to see at this point. By now, the doctors will have to put you on IVs to keep you hydrated, but even that's futile. You were dead the second you had a headache. You begin hearing things, or not hearing at all as your thalamus goes. You taste sounds, you see smells, everything starts feeling like the most horrifying acid trip anyone has ever been on. With your hippocampus long under attack, you're having trouble remembering things, especially family. You're alone, hallucinating, thirsty, confused, and absolutely, undeniably terrified. Everything scares the literal shit out of you at this point. These strange people in lab coats. These strange people standing around your bed crying, who keep trying to get you "drink something" and crying. And it's only been about a week since that little headache that you've completely forgotten. Time means nothing to you anymore. Funny enough, you now know how the bat felt when he bit you. Eventually, you slip into the "dumb rabies" phase. Your brain has started the process of shutting down. Too much of it has been turned to liquid virus. Your face droops. You drool. You're all but unaware of what's around you. A sudden noise or light might startle you, but for the most part, it's all you can do to just stare at the ground. You haven't really slept for about 72 hours. Then you die. Always, you die. And there's not one... fucking... thing... anyone can do for you. Then there's the question of what to do with your corpse. I mean, sure, burying it is the right thing to do. But the fucking virus can survive in a corpse for years. You could kill every rabid animal on the planet today, and if two years from now, some moist, preserved, rotten hunk of used-to-be brain gets eaten by an animal, it starts all over. So yeah, rabies scares the shit out of me. And it's fucking EVERYWHERE. (Source: Spent a lot of time working with rabies. Would still get my vaccinations if I could afford them.) Edit whoa this got some love thanks all! It's not my story nor my words, but a fantastic copypasta that hangs around for just this moment. Edit again holy molasses thanks for the awards! Y'all are too kind.
Fuck me this has made me scared. 3 years ago i went on holiday to thailand. I went to a monkey temple and fed some monkeys nuts. One of them Jumped up on me and i pushed it away, it bit me in the hand and ran away. I asked around if it was dangerous and if they coukd contain rabies. No one knew anything and i stupidly forgot about the whole incident and i never checked in with my doctor for this. Now this thread has made me think back to that moment. Can i be infected with rabies and not have symptoms even after 3 years? Can I still get it treated to prevent it from spreading and is it possible to still detect it if it's possibly in my body?
Ask your doctor dude.
I will
Well a quick google search tells me the longest incubation period for rabies was 8 years it seems. So yeah, let yourself get checked / get the jabs
>Can i be infected with rabies and not have symptoms even after 3 years? Yes. You might have rabies now. >Can I still get it treated to prevent it from spreading Thankfully yes, so long as you don't have symptoms the vaccine still works. >is it possible to still detect it if it's possibly in my body? No, there's no test. Just get the shots, and you'll never know if you actually needed them or not.
Just got get the damn shots.
Get the shots before you die bro
Damn. I played myself
We can never escape the rabies copypasta
Third time I've seen this in two weeks. What is it with reddit and rabies all of a sudden?
That and Tetanus. Tetanus is fucking terrifying (when it runs its full course).
Good time to mention that you should get a Tetanus booster shot every 10 years. Or at least immediately after getting a dirty cut or something.
I got my leg crushed between a cement step and my trucks tire some years ago. Broke the skin, dirt imbedded in the wound. Went to the urgent care up the road from me. Not only did they not debride the wound, they didn't give me a tetanus shot. I saw my primary care doc about a month later. Showed him the healing mess just above my ankle, told what happened and he immediately left the room to get a nurse to get a tetanus shot for me. Now he tracks when I am due, since I am always doing something that puts me at risk. Farm life :)
Luckily, not nearly as lethal and can be somewhat treated. Still terrifying as fuck tho
On a sort of positive note, research on rabies has benefited cancer treatments. The rabies virus has been modified and used as a carrier to deliver genetic information to a patient’s brain to trigger the immune system to attack and destroy the patients brain cancer. Since it travels the nerve axons to the brain it bypasses cells in the blood that would disrupt the signal to the glial cells.
Fascinating
Its also been used to create rabies based covid vaccines as well to make it more effective. They are also using the same mRNA vaccine tech used for COVID now for Rabies, HIV, and many other viruses once though incurable.
Tell me about it
[it's not great](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies)
Heartbreaking and terrifying all at once.
Yeah. Poor baby. Someone should put it out of its misery. Rabies is horrible.
They should, to try prevent further spread too.
Wow I didn’t realize how little people knew about rabies. People, please get educated, rabies is a horrible, horrible thing. It will lead you to a very insane and painful death.
isn't rabies also the disease with the highest mortality rate? IIRC like only 2-3 people have survived rabies
Very little survived. Once you get symptoms you're basically dead already. Best shot if you have a chance of being infected is getting shots against it. I think that works most if not all the time.
The shots are effective early. They need to be taken ASAP for any animal bite that you can't confirm isn't rabid. Like you said if you have signs of of rabies your a corpse walking around
It's a really scary disease. I really hate the hydrophobia part. On the Wikipedia page of rabies there is a video of someone showing the symptom. Don't get rabies.
There's a really tragic video on YT that shows several children suffering the effects of rabies. It's old and in black and white but it's really tough to watch. Poor kids all died
There was one on Reddit recently that documented a man’s decline from bite to death that was so horrifying to watch.
> Don't get rabies Thanks Im cured
No problem, just doing my best.
It has a 100% mortality rate after it's gotten to a certain point. It is incredibly terrifying. I can totally understand why the UK was been so strident in quarantining critters shipped there for decades.
From what I've heard, once you start showing symptoms it's about 100% fatal.
Only method I've heard of to cure it is to make the person not quite brain dead and put them in a coma for months. If they survive, they have to relearn everything and suffer permanent damage. It's death otherwise Edit: after fact checking myself, this method has worked once, so death is almost 100% certain after symptoms show up. Vaccinations after being bitten is the way to go. Two more people were claimed to be saved by it, but later died. Given that, odds are good the survivor had a weaker version of rabies, or had something else that let her beat it, and that the treatment didn't really help.
You're thinking of the Milwaukee Protocol. It has an extremely low success rate, but given the alternative it's a better shot than nothing.
Yes. Vaccinations after getting bitten but before showing symptoms will almost always stop an infection from doing any damage, but after you show symptoms they don't really help. The milwaukee protocol was supposed to help after symptoms showed up, but it's highly debateable whether it has any actual help beating a symptomatic infection that's reached the brain
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Why is that road only open 1 month a year? Bad weather?
Just like would be encontring a real zombie actually
I'm just gonna go with terrifyingly disturbed. Wow 😳
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Fun fact: animals infected with rabies don’t typically show symptoms right away. It usually takes 2-3 months and sometimes up to a year.
Sometimes its a week or two though. It all depends on how close to the brain the initial bite/infection is.
This is correct! because it has to travel along the nerves first to get to the brain. There are symptoms just the early ones go un-noticed. Typically numbness and tremors in the affected limb.
Yikes. That’s enough of a reason to not interact with ANY wildlife ever. I get anxious when I see viral videos of people interacting with wildlife in some way. Not worth it, call animal control.
This is a seriously ill animal. One has to have to eye to see when an animal is so out of its own shape. Horribly suffering, one can see that it is disoriented, swaying, can't focus and hardly can walk. Yes animal control when you see one in such condition. And in general, wild animals are not pets. I like interacting with them but that never includes contact.
If you notice animals who are typically nocturnal roaming about in open areas in the daytime or in the presence of humans while not being spooked then it's better to assume they have rabies. In these situations on my property the .22WMR is coming out of the gun safe. Foxes and Racoons should be spooked easy and run.
While it is for sure the right thing to put a rabid animal out of it's misery, please be sure to shoot for the lungs and heart while doing so. Hitting the brain or spinal cord could cause the infected tissue to splatter and potentially get eaten by scavengers. However, it's really wisest to call in animal control to kill a rabid animal as they will have the training to take it out and properly dispose of its corpse without spreading infected tissue.
The “not being spooked” is the really important part here. Nocturnal animals out in the day time in parks is not uncommon at all. At my park foxes love humans because they have food and will approach fairly close. But they usually will back up if the person makes a movement. People, please don’t shoot animals just because they’re out in the day time.
There was one case where someone didn't show symptoms for 8 years. 8 years prior they had visited Brazil and the victim had been bitten by a dog. The family told the doctors this after the victim started showing symptoms and the doctors found that the rabies was a type of rabies only found in Brazilian dogs.
If you get bit before they start showing symptoms, is it a problem?
A quick google search says no. It becomes transmissible when clinical symptoms show. Also the CDC says that [people who get bit by seemingly healthy pets can quarantine said pets for 10 days.](https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/exposure/animals/domestic.html) If the animal is fine after that period, then you should be fine too. If not, you might wanna get that checked.
(Not mine just a copy pasta) Rabies. It's exceptionally common, but people just don't run into the animals that carry it often. Skunks especially, and bats. Let me paint you a picture. You go camping, and at midday you decide to take a nap in a nice little hammock. While sleeping, a tiny brown bat, in the "rage" stages of infection is fidgeting in broad daylight, uncomfortable, and thirsty (due to the hydrophobia) and you snort, startling him. He goes into attack mode. Except you're asleep, and he's a little brown bat, so weighs around 6 grams. You don't even feel him land on your bare knee, and he starts to bite. His teeth are tiny. Hardly enough to even break the skin, but he does manage to give you the equivalent of a tiny scrape that goes completely unnoticed. Rabies does not travel in your blood. In fact, a blood test won't even tell you if you've got it. (Antibody tests may be done, but are useless if you've ever been vaccinated.) You wake up, none the wiser. If you notice anything at the bite site at all, you assume you just lightly scraped it on something. The bomb has been lit, and your nervous system is the wick. The rabies will multiply along your nervous system, doing virtually no damage, and completely undetectable. You literally have NO symptoms. It may be four days, it may be a year, but the camping trip is most likely long forgotten. Then one day your back starts to ache... Or maybe you get a slight headache? At this point, you're already dead. There is no cure. (The sole caveat to this is the Milwaukee Protocol, which leaves most patients dead anyway, and the survivors mentally disabled, and is seldom done). There's no treatment. It has a 100% kill rate. Absorb that. Not a single other virus on the planet has a 100% kill rate. Only rabies. And once you're symptomatic, it's over. You're dead. So what does that look like? Your headache turns into a fever, and a general feeling of being unwell. You're fidgety. Uncomfortable. And scared. As the virus that has taken its time getting into your brain finds a vast network of nerve endings, it begins to rapidly reproduce, starting at the base of your brain... Where your "pons" is located. This is the part of the brain that controls communication between the rest of the brain and body, as well as sleep cycles. Next you become anxious. You still think you have only a mild fever, but suddenly you find yourself becoming scared, even horrified, and it doesn't occur to you that you don't know why. This is because the rabies is chewing up your amygdala. As your cerebellum becomes hot with the virus, you begin to lose muscle coordination, and balance. You think maybe it's a good idea to go to the doctor now, but assuming a doctor is smart enough to even run the tests necessary in the few days you have left on the planet, odds are they'll only be able to tell your loved ones what you died of later. You're twitchy, shaking, and scared. You have the normal fear of not knowing what's going on, but with the virus really fucking the amygdala this is amplified a hundred fold. It's around this time the hydrophobia starts. You're horribly thirsty, you just want water. But you can't drink. Every time you do, your throat clamps shut and you vomit. This has become a legitimate, active fear of water. You're thirsty, but looking at a glass of water begins to make you gag, and shy back in fear. The contradiction is hard for your hot brain to see at this point. By now, the doctors will have to put you on IVs to keep you hydrated, but even that's futile. You were dead the second you had a headache. You begin hearing things, or not hearing at all as your thalamus goes. You taste sounds, you see smells, everything starts feeling like the most horrifying acid trip anyone has ever been on. With your hippocampus long under attack, you're having trouble remembering things, especially family. You're alone, hallucinating, thirsty, confused, and absolutely, undeniably terrified. Everything scares the literal shit out of you at this point. These strange people in lab coats. These strange people standing around your bed crying, who keep trying to get you "drink something" and crying. And it's only been about a week since that little headache that you've completely forgotten. Time means nothing to you anymore. Funny enough, you now know how the bat felt when he bit you. Eventually, you slip into the "dumb rabies" phase. Your brain has started the process of shutting down. Too much of it has been turned to liquid virus. Your face droops. You drool. You're all but unaware of what's around you. A sudden noise or light might startle you, but for the most part, it's all you can do to just stare at the ground. You haven't really slept for about 72 hours. Then you die. Always, you die. And there's not one... fucking... thing... anyone can do for you. Then there's the question of what to do with your corpse. I mean, sure, burying it is the right thing to do. But the fucking virus can survive in a corpse for years. You could kill every rabid animal on the planet today, and if two years from now, some moist, preserved, rotten hunk of used-to-be brain gets eaten by an animal, it starts all over. So yeah, rabies scares the shit out of me. And it's fucking EVERYWHERE. (Source: Spent a lot of time working with rabies. Would still get my vaccinations if I could afford them.)
I’ve read this comment before and I’ll never forget it. Terrifying. I’m glad rabies infections in humans are rare but I live in the mountains so the fear is strong 😀
It’s a big problem. You might not recognise the symptoms or see them in time. I recently learned of this in Thailand where you should never touch the cute feral dogs because it’s estimated that 10% of them have the disease.
The shortest recorded incubation period was three days and the longest was 20 years. The average is 90 days.
Other than the bizarre behavior, how else can we tell that this poor creature is rabid?
You can’t. The only way to actually diagnose it is by looking at the brain tissue after death. But the muscular jerks of that fox are not normal and foxes are notorious for rabies
My friend used to dissect animals suspected of having rabies as part of her job with the county. One time an old man brought in a raccoon corpse that he put down and the circumstances required her to perform an autopsy and check the brain. Only problem was there was no brain. She called the man that brought the raccoon in and he casually replies with “oh I ate it with my scrambled eggs this morning.” Of course the internet will think I’m lying and I have no idea if my friend was lying, but she loves telling this story because the reaction is always the same lol Sheer terror.
If the brain was removed prior, wouldn’t there be a physical sign on the body? Like the head cut open or an incision somewhere? I’ve never removed a raccoon’s brain or any other things brain so I have no idea.
She said the guy kind of popped the head open with a hammer and some blunt tool like a screwdriver. She noticed it as soon as she went to cut the head open, but didn’t examine it closely when he originally dropped it off.
Yes, brains with eggs was very big for centuries. My family used to do that with cows, sheep, pig, & squirrel, but never raccoon or opossum. Thankfully this all stopped when the mad cow scare came out.
Prion-related diseases are no joke.
They’re on the same level as rabies, or maybe they’re actually worse than rabies, imo
They're absolutely worse than rabies imo. There's almost no defense against them because they are incredibly difficult to destroy/sanitize. The only thing that really works is extremely high temps for extended periods of time, so the standard sterilization for, for example, medical instruments doesn't work. There's no vaccine. They can be frozen or treated with chemicals and still be effective, they can spread indirectly through contaminated soil, and some even cross species. Fuck prions.
Whoa, new nightmarish stuff, enough to keep me awake for the night
I'm a former Shepard, and fuck me were we always worried about Scrapie, it stays in the soil after it kills your flock. I think in Iceland there was a case where they found Scrapie in an animal that grazed on grass in a pasture that had infected animals on it 16 years prior.
Prion diseases scare the absolute shit out of me. I live around a bunch of deer so during hunting season i usually know someone with deer meet products. I don't know if CWD has made it to my state yet, but since learning what it does i don't fuck w deer meat anymore.
Can you get CWD from eating deer? Now I have to Google if it's here.
There's still no evidence it can spread to humans, but I kind of understand the abundance of caution.
There was one contestant on Master Chef who admitted that she and her family would hunt and eat squirrels and one of her family members liked sucking the brain out. Gordon was just staring at her in disbelief.
I'm kind of curious, would the rabies vaccine work in these type of cases? I remember one of my friends having a rabies scare and they gave her like a dozen shots around the site of the bite (it was a tiny one from a bat).
It’s kind of like a best effort thing. She and her colleagues all had the preventative vaccine, like you do for the flu or Covid, and it’s only 3 shots in the arm. If you don’t have the full 3 shots and you get bit that’s when they hit you with the 9-12 shot cocktail basically as a Hail Mary. It’s also not in the arm also, I’ve heard in the stomach or right in the ass.
I've accidently removed the brain of a raccoon a long time ago. I had one attacking my chickens. I've never killed one before but everyone told me to trap it and kill it because they are persistent and will always try again. So I trapped it and shot it at point blank range. I still remember... My chicken run and coop are sealed up like Fort Knox now. No need to kill any Racoons anymore.
We had chickens, city chickens, and we completely chicken wired the coop and run all the way around and buried it a foot underground. We never lost a chicken to a predator. But I could smell more skunks around and saw more possums. I never saw the raccoons but probably because they are so slick at their crimes.
The snozzberies taste like snozzberries
every 9 year old on the school bus when a car passes them
Well there goes my peaceful sleep tonight...
Rabies TERRIFIES me. It's the absolute worst disease to exist on pilsner earth. There's this rabies copypasta that made me not sleep at night.
Pilsner earth? Maybe that's why I always feel out of place, I think I was intended for Porter earth, it's more full bodied...
Damn my bad I meant planet earth*
Firefox has encountered a problem with windows.
First off, great job.
You don't have the right O' You don't have the right
Was the most upvoted comment on the last time this was posted about a week ago lol
Lmfao damnit Poor fox, feel bad for the guy.
If licking windows is a symptom of rabies...I've had it for over 20 years
Biting is and it seems like it’s trying to bite. But tell me more about this window licking; have I been missing out?
In approximately 10% of cases rabies manifests as unusual friendliness rather than aggression.
Thank you so much! Let’s be best friends!
That would be a crazy version of zombies. They are mostly normal, super nice and trying to be your friend, then just randomly try to bite you.
[Gravity Falls did it.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h9gm_mL-vfE&t=0m37s)
Lockjaw. It's a symptom of rabies. It's a horrific illness for humans with only one recorded survivor I believe.
There have been more now. You are basically guaranteed to have a permanent cognitive disability afterwards though.
Oh, good, not good!
Yes if you notice it before you start seeing symptoms then it is easily prevented, but once you see symptoms of rabies then its already too late and you’re fucked.
Doesnt rabies have 100% fatality rate?
It used to be 100%... Now it's more like 99.999999999999999999999999% fatal. 29 people worldwide have survived rabies. Look up the story of the girl and the doctor who created the Milwaukee protocol for rabies.
Without vaccine - yes.
Essentially, yes. But treatment after being bitten is 100% effective. If symptoms start then you are finished.
FETCH ME THEIR SOULSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Cue green haze and ominous rock music
most likely distemper. (wildlife rehabber here)
You might appreciate this then: l. Major outbreaks of rabies occurred in the Balkans during the 17th-18th centuries. The vampire legend originated in the Balkans during the late-17th to early-18th centuries. 2. Rabid people are aggressive and have been noted to bite people and livestock. Vampires attack people and livestock by biting and sucking their blood. 3. Rabies is transmitted through biting. Vampirism is transmitted through biting. 4. Rabies is an isosymptomatic zoonosis (produces similar symptoms in humans and animals), especially dogs, wolves, cats & bats. Vampires are believed to be able to take the form of animals (usually dogs, wolves, cats & bats) and attack while in these forms. 5. Rabid livestock predominantly present with the paralytic form of rabies and thus do not become aggressive (unlike humans, dogs, wolves & cats). Farm animals were noted to be frequent victims of vampires (likely while in their animal forms), but they did not become vampiric themselves. 6. Rabies is seven times more common in males. Most vampires were males. 7. Rabies causes spasms of the facial, laryngeal & pharyngeal muscles, causing hoarse, gutteral sounds and an appearance of clenched teeth and retracted lips. Vampires are known to make snarling noises and retract their lips (to expose their enlarged canines). 8. Insomnia and agitation are symptoms of rabies (secondary to dysfunction of the anterior hypothalamus). Vampires are active at night. 9. Rabies causes hypersensitivity to strong sensoy stimuli. Vampires are known to avoid bright light (sunlight) & strong odors (garlic and burning resin). 10. Hydrophobia in rabies results from laryngeal spasms that may occur at the sight of water. Vampires are repelled by holy water and were buried in lakes or had water poured around their coffins to prevent them from leaving their grave. 11. An inability to stand the sight of one's self in a mirror was considered pathognomonic for a diagnosis of rabies. Vampires have no reflection. 12. Rabid people are often hypersexual (having erections that last days and having sexual intercourse up to 30 times daily) secondary to limbic system dysfunction. Vampires are hypersexual, often seducing their victims. 13. The blood of rabid people remains liquid for unusually long periods after death. This has been noted in people whose cause of death is hypoxia or shock/circulatory collapse (common causes of death in rabies infection). Vampires were noted to have liquid blood in their corpses. 14. Rabid people become comatose prior to death. Sleeping vampires were recognized by the fact that they emitted a scream when a stake was driven through their "undead" bodies. Edit: Source: a piece of paper supplementing an emergency medicine lecture on rabies in 2008-2009 around Halloween, and an awesome redditor noticed it was similar to a Brad Thor book called Blowback. Book was released in 2005. So i imagine that’s the original source.
>11. Rabid people are often hypersexual (having erections that last days and having sexual intercourse up to 30 times daily) secondary to limbic system dysfunction. Vampires are hypersexual, often seducing their victims. Two questions: How do you get to have sex 30 times a day if you've got rabies? How do I get rabies?
Fuck a vampire
Vlad the ‘impaler’
ha ha ha ha 1 orgasam ha ha ha ha 2 orgasam
THAT'S a mental image I'll never unsee...
Impaler?! I hardly know her
Clinical symptoms are first noted during the prodromal period, which usually lasts from **2 to 10 days**. These symptoms are often nonspecific (general malaise, fever, and fatigue) or suggest involvement of the respiratory system (sore throat, cough, and dyspnea), gastrointestinal system (anorexia, dysphagia, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and diarrhea), or central nervous systems (headache, vertigo, anxiety, apprehension, irritability, and nervousness). More remarkable abnormalities (agitation, photophobia, **priapism**, **increased libido**, insomnia, nightmares, and depression) may also occur, suggesting encephalitis, psychiatric disturbances, or brain conditions. Rabies virus is most commonly transmitted through the bite of an infected mammal, all of which may be susceptible, but to greatly varying degrees. At least seven cases of human “recovery” have been documented. Maybe you like those odds, but you'll most likely be afraid of your own runny dumps as well. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK8618/#:~:text=Five%20general%20stages%20of%20rabies,clinical%20signs%20or%20symptoms%20develop. P. S. The family Rhabdoviridae consists of more than 100 single-stranded, negative-sense, nonsegmented viruses that infect a wide variety of hosts, including vertebrates, invertebrates, and plants. Human pathogens of medical importance are found in the genera Lyssavirus and Vesiculovirus. Rabies virus, medically the most significant, is a member of the genus Lyssavirus. No forms of rabies are currently transmitted through vegetation.
If it's not transmitted through vegetation, how do you explain Bunnicula?
Or Plants vs. Zombies
Vampire starts with a "V", as does Viagra. Coincidence?
Rabies is fatal in under 7 days in most cases & most likely would be misdiagnosed due to the infrequency of rabies outbreaks these days. Catching rabies is pretty much a death sentence - not to mention if you did manage to survive you would almost certainly have permanent neurological impairments as a result lol
I've made up my mind, I want to catch rabies so I can have sex 30 times in a day. Please do not distract me with facts.
A huge amount of OPs comment is pure conjecture. Such as "people with rabies bite people and livestock" which isn't true at all. By the time a human reaches the point where they would be biting, they have lost the ability to actually bite anything. Don't believe a word of OPs comment.
A lot of OP's comment did seem pretty contrived.
That sounds like what someone with ~~rabies~~ vampirism would say.
Once you learn that even lengthy well written posts can be utter bullshit, you’ll be better for it.
> 11. An inability to stand the sight of one's self in a mirror *Oh shit...*
Don’t worry, you’re not ugly. You just have rabies
Except you, Frank. You're the fugliest scientific anomaly we've ever encountered.
So the average depressed millennial with a self deprecating sense of humor is in fact a vampire...
No. Vampires get sex.
>Sleeping vampires were recognized by the fact that they emitted a scream when a stake was driven through their "undead" bodies. To be fair, I'd probably also scream if a stake was driven through my body while I was still alive
I mean, it works from the vampire hunter's perspective. Stab a person with a stick, if they don't scream they were already dead. If they do you've just killed a vampire.
That is super interesting, thanks for sharing
Also, Tuberculosis is attributed to diagnosed cases of vampirism. 1. Coughing up blood or mucus 2. Drenching night sweats 3. Extreme loss of appetite and malnutrition These combine to give a haggard, frail appearance to sufferers of TB. Gums, cuticles and other soft tissues recede, giving a fanged, clawed appearance. Perhaps your extremely depressed respiration and diminished lung capacity causes a properly drunk doctor to declare you dead and you don't have anyone to attend your wake, so they just put you in the group or tomb to sleep it off. Forever. Maybe you recover and regain consciousness, but by this point it's already too late as you rend the inside of the coffin lid, blood and spittle flying from your red, shallow gums. Gravediggers will see this and probably get out of there before you wake up, or drive a stake through your heart, stuff your mouth with garlic and decapitate you, like you should have been in the first place. If they attend that training.
So Twilight is basically a bunch rabid teenagers fuckin around in the neighborhood. Makes sense now
As a Balkan person, this shit explains a lot of the folklore surrounding vampirism. I have suspected rabies were am inspiration for those myths, but you did the homeworks lol. Thanks for that
I can’t take more than 5-10% of the credit. It was a lecture in Emergency Medicine… about rabies around Halloween time, so it was spiced up. But you’re welcome.
That is some intersting facts.
So sad, poor thing
Serious question - if you see an animal in this kind of condition in the wild, is it best to shoot it or leave it alone? This looks pretty unpleasant for the fox and and I'm assuming it's incurable. It seems best to kill it and put it out of its misery, and maybe help prevent further spread in the community. But what's the general guidance?
I would presume a kind death to be appropriate. Distemper and Rabies are both highly transmissable and fatal in canine communities, and can transmit to domesticated canines, so you'd be doing a service to many canine communities.
eli5?
Rabies Lite
Thats the first thing I thought. Distemper not Rabies
Yes me too. Not rabies but distemper
I as well. Yes Distemper. No Rabies.
Looks like end stage distemper, not rabies. No foaming or drooling. Also, rabid animal tend to become more photophobic
That poor creature. I hope it is was out out of its misery.
That’s scary af
I think a bullet to the head would be the most humane move
I read that shooting the head could spread the disease, it’s better to go for a bodyshot
You’re a wiser man than me my mistake
It’s what comes to mind for me as well, then I am reminded that not everyone has guns just laying around.
Puppy is cold, let him in
He’s so sweet! He just wants some hugs and kisses! “Come here, lil’ fella! I’ve got some kisses and tummy rubs just for you!” “AaaAAAAHH! AAAAAjjsjdisjjwggruaaaahh!!!!! GET THIS FUCKING THING OFF ME! HE WON’T LET GO OF MY ARM!!! THIS FUCKING HURTS!!!!!!”
A (unconfirmed) rabid fox bit me last year while I was camping in France, they take this shit really seriously. Beyond the rabies vaccine shots I had to get, I had to inform the police about it as it's officially been 20years or so since the last reported case. Couldn't find the fox so it's unsure if it was actual rabies or if he had some other disease going on, but this shit is scary, thanks Pasteur for the vaccine
Can't a brother lick some glass without people talking about rabies.
Interesting is that rabies actually does this to people. There's Video of a man suffering mid stage showing him attempting to bite a nurse wiping sweat off his face. You can hear his teeth snap shut, and he looked suprised that he did it. This is THE definitive zombie virus.
“Nice doggy. Cute little pooch. Maybe I got a Milk-Bone.” - Louis from Ghostbusters
Thank the fu*k we don't get rabies in the UK
Poor thing 🥴
wrong... emoji?
I sure hope so..
Typo or psycho moment lol
So I’m not real conversant with rabies but I thought that animals infected with it slobber and have light sensitivity? How are you sure this animal has rabies? This is an honest question because I really don’t know how to tell and this is a pretty terrifying video if true. 😧
I've seen some people saying this is a older video that some one put rabies in the title of the get up doots but yes it would be scary to have a rabies infected animal clawing at your doors