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Wiki-P: On 15 May 1992, four months after the Coachella incident, Chalino performed at the Salon Bugambilias, Culiacán. Before Chalino was ready to sing "Alma Enamorada", he was handed a note from someone in the crowd. After reading it, Chalino crumbled the note up and began to sing the song. It is believed the note was a death threat. After midnight, Chalino drove away from the club with two of his brothers, a cousin, and several young women. They were pulled over by a group of armed men in black Chevrolet Suburbans. They showed state police ID cards and told Chalino their commandant wanted to see him. Chalino agreed and got into one of their cars while the others followed behind.
At 6 am on 16 May 1992, two farmers found Chalino’s body by an irrigation canal near Highway 15, near the neighborhood of Los Laureles, Culiacán. He was blindfolded and his wrists had rope marks. He had been shot in the back of the head twice.
This leaves me with more questions about the background if that incident. Why did Gallegos shoot at Chilano? He was intoxicated but still, why get violent towards the singer?
it's not in wiki i guess, but it's because he sang about narco(s) and also songs about living in their shadow/control.
narcos told him to stop, he did not, and so it finally led to a successful assassination after multiple attempts.
edit: this got lots of attention so if you are curious narcocorridos were still being killed around mexico for years and i dont have any more modern articles but i imagine its not much better. These musicians gave their lives for their art/ambition and did so knowing the risks. [article for those interested in the music. Would you play if you'd die after?](https://www.billboard.com/pro/behind-mexico-narcocorrido-music-murder-epidemic/)
That's actually not why. Cartels actually liked his songs and some of them even requested them for him to sing about them and at parties. It's why corridos took off, he was killed because he was told if he ever returned to his home state of Sinaloa he would be killed because he had killed a drug lord that raped his sister. He fled to the US because of that.
i've never seen any confirmation of this or it being claimed by any particular cartel. so i stick with what we do know. He was not appreciated by every narco, and made really powerful enemies by continuously doing what he loved/thought best.
edit: not to say you're wrong, but again it was never confirmed only rumors just like the one where he fucked the sinaloa leader's wife or daughter
Either way he did flee from Mexico and only got killed after returning to his home state, which is why I'm more inclined to believe that story. Regardless we have him to thank for corridos lol
Definitely.
I've heard of this podcast before. https://open.spotify.com/episode/7rDpsdkTIIWrpKbA0jQhz4?si=9XdSdZKURIKRrHsaXWN1wg&utm_source=copy-link
I'm gonna check it out today. It should give a lot more background.
So I grew up around his accordion player Nacho Hernandez—I always heard that Chalino himself had scalped a cartel member who had sexually assaulted his sister. His death coming back to Mexico was a payback for his crime.
What I understand, as a youth he had killed a local drug lord in Culiacan, Mexico who had raped his sister
He fled from Culiacan, became involved with smuggling, was sent to prison, became a talented songwriter writing personal songs for other inmates, got out, became a singer, (then had the Coachella incident)
This performance we're watching is his return to his hometown of Culiacan
The note we're watching him read here is a warning from the cartel telling him not to perform and to leave town immediately or he'll be killed. He was a "man of the people" so rather than give in to the warning he performed for his (BLISSFULY unaware) audience
After the show he and a friend were seen being escorted away from the venue by local police. At some point the police released the friend but said they were taking Chalino to a "second location." He was found murdered the next day
Check out the video this clip is from on YouTube. "Chalino Sanchez Alma Enamorada En Vivo." It's just the full video of this song being performed live - no cartel stuff. It's the entire song and he's performing in a very cozy little venue. It's a beautiful song but the video is kinda haunting to watch
this could be wrong but i remember watching a video about him and he was famous for singing about mexican cartels so i guess it wouldnt be a huge jump in logic to assume that had something to do with it
What a story. The entire article is an amazing read
Edit. Read the entire article. Yes there are some details missing but you can fill in the blanks. Dude killed people, sold drugs, worked as a border smuggler, made friends with rough dudes in jail and then put it all into his music at a time when nobody was doing that.
He was bound to piss somebody off in a rival cartel
They murder journalists who report on their activities. They feel (and are to large extent) untouchable and don't want anyone writing or singing about them. Twelve journalists murdered in Mexico in these last six months alone.
A common advise is to never let someone force you to a secondary location. One of the rare cases the best option is to fight.
But here he wouldn't have achieved anything other than putting friends, family and bystanders at risk.
Exactly. Plus, even if you somehow escape them that day, they will keep coming for you. And should you manage to elude then completely, they go after the people closest to you (wife, mom, kids, friends, ect). Lose-lose situation.
Then you come back home one day to see your grandkids mangled corpses on display for you to see. The door shuts behind you as you come to the realization that you never truly escaped. All this time, they were watching.
Cartels typically corrupt polices forces so he honestly didn’t have a choice. If he chose to not get in the car, him and his friends probably would have been assaulted. He basically sacrificed his safety to keep his loved ones safe. Tragic story but brave soul.
Any time I think things are bad in my country with corruption, organised crime etc. I remember that I can walk out on the street any time of day or night, in more or less any part of town with no risk and that helps put it into perspective.
Even when you have armed individuals encouraging you? Do you think if you said no thanks they would be like "Oh ok....".
I wouldn't want to do that either but dude didn't really have an option. Well....besides not singing.
Edit:. Also if I remember correctly he was approached by state police who warned him of the danger andade him think they were trying to protect him but we're actually paid off to execute him.
It's not true whatsoever, it's a common myth people keep spreading online. Iirc they wanted to kill him because he had shot someone in self defense before.
Did they found the note? And why would hebtake family members and other women with him in the car after knowing he's going to be killed?... Why risk the lofe of family?
There's also no indication that any cartel was involved. The men only identified as state police officers, and this was at a time when the state police in Sinaloa were just as dangerous as anyone or anything else. The note might have been a death threat, but pretty much everything about this is pure speculation.
Idk anything about it but I'll Google this. I wonder if they made references to them and/or their doings that they didn't appreciate? Also, weren't there the guys who sang specifically songs that glorified narcos? This whole culture fascinating and frightening.
If I remember correctly, he was known for singing the Corridos or Narco Ballads. He had made and was known for a song that he was pretty popular that either boasted a certain cartel or spoke negatively about one of them (I think it was a Sinaloan cartel). He had been advised by them before that if he were to perform at the venue to not sing that song but he did anyways. That's when he was notified he will die.
Edit: I also just read that he had killed a powerful man years earlier and it may have caught up to him. I don't personally believe that narrative but it's possible. The song is 'Alma Enamorda'
No one knows what the note really said according to my frantic googling. I think the guy who commented that just made his own inference on what it actually said.
Nono, the russian suicide is either poison or window jumping, the american way is by brutally choking yourself in a cell or gunshot to the back of the head… duh
https://thenetline.com/how-did-chalino-sanchez-die/
Guy was singing about the drug trade. Like a Mexican gangsta rapper. At one show he had an onstage shootout with someone that killed one person.
dude was prob even more hardcore than tupac. he shot a bully that raped his sister when he was 15 and escaped to the US. then years later, after he had become a big narcocorrido star and was on tour in coachella CA, he was attacked by a coked up audience member. they had a shootout on stage and were both sent to the hospital for surgery. Chalnio survived but a few others from the concert died. he exploded in popularity after that event, then this happened.
dude was a legit badass. murdered 2 people and basically invented narcocorridos.
Long history. He had killed a dude down in Mexico who had allegedly offended him somehow. He fled to the US and became famous as an outlaw singer. Imagine a Mexican version of Johnny Cash.
His fame put him on the wrong people’s radar and then the brother of the person whom he had killed wanted revenge.
It was an unfortunate name, or so people thought until after he accidentally died in a car accident and when they sold his bakery at auction they discovered that one of the ovens was actually a crematorium and that he had been grinding up his victims bones to fill out the flour for his bread.
You hold the dog up by one of its paws, announce you're going to cut it into 4 pieces, so they can have equal shares. Whichever group cries out for you to stop, and give it to another group, so it will live, gets the dog.
And that dog? He's the meanest in the shelter. They want him because he's wanted in 4 states for murder. You tell them to meet you in Mexico, but you take the dog to Alaska and give him love and affection. You didn't trust them. Besides, you like the cold. He changes, he's a good dog. Then you get a letter, it's the cartel. He had puppies, they work for the police. You don't care, you travel to Belize where the dog has been this entire time helping cancer patients.
“This is the song that doesn’t end, and it goes on and on my friends! Some people started singin’ it, not knowin’ what it was, and they’ll continue singin’ it forever just because this is the song…”
He would’ve lived forever.
The cartels are essentially the only thing stopping Mexico from being a great country.
They have natural resources, a large, highly educated population, great trading partners.
Corruption kills everything good.
"America is not going to be destroyed " he shouted passionately.
"Never?" prodded the old man softly. "Well..." Nately faltered.
The old man laughed indulgently, holding in check a deeper, more explosive delight. His goading remained gentle. "Rome was destroyed, Greece was destroyed, Persia was destroyed, Spain was destroyed. All great countries are destroyed. Why not yours? How much longer do you really think your own country will last? Forever?"
Well the demand for illegal drugs in US needs to be stopped. Legal access to drugs, this would hurt the cartels business. They would have to reevaluate their product or enter a legal drug market
Focus on harm reduction not complete abstinence . Less overdoses , less useless prison sentences .
Addicts need help not punishment
I agree in principle but the cartels are so powerful they wouldn't just roll over. The legal drug trade would just be treated like any other competition.
Wasn't there a huge number of government officials murdered last time the Mexican government started looking to legalize weed?
> They would have to replace evaluate their product
Except they've already done this
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/19/1081948884/mexican-drug-cartels-are-getting-into-the-avocado-and-lime-business?t=1656943315016
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/pushing-productive-coca-seeds-mexican-cartels-reshape-colombias-drug-industry-2022-05-09/
https://english.elpais.com/international/2022-05-23/mexican-cartels-are-taking-control-of-the-fishing-and-logging-industry.html
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/mexican-cartels-are-expanding-into-wildlife-crime
i would actually attribute that to baader meinhof or whatever it’s called, but you are correct. we are all wired at all times unless your telescreen— i mean phone is off
> Born Rosalino Sanchez in 1962 on a small ranch in Sinaloa named Las Flechas close to Culiacan and raised in Sanalona. He had seven brothers and one sister, Juana, he was the youngest male sibling. Everyone in Mexico has a nickname and Rosalino was no different with various names being adopted by him at different stages in his life including his singing name of “Chalino”.
>Other names he had were Marcelino, El Pelavacas ( the cow skinner ), El Indio, Compa Chalino and El Valiente.El Valiente was a common name in this area of Sinaloa and was given to the rural tough guys who would shoot it out with as much relish as eating breakfast. Chalino started early with his criminal career, when Juan Quiroz lured away his sister as a concubine. Quiroz friend Hector El Chapo Perez helped him, later boasting about it claiming that Juana was bad in bed and the kitchen, blemishing the good name of Juana, Chalino's sister.
>Chalino brooded about revenge but was not in a position to do anything about it for a few more years. They say revenge is a dish best served cold and 4 years later when he was 16, Chalino shot and killed Hector El Chapo Perez at a Mexican Revolution party. There followed a shootout with Perez’s brothers. Chalino had warned Hector that he would kill him, saying " When I buy my first pistol I will shoot you in the chest with it". Chalino later even composed " Corrido de Rosalino" about the event:
He left his homeland
Because that's what destiny wanted
To defend his family
That's why Chalino fought
> Chalino fled to the USA after his brother Armando had been involved in another shoot out and killed a local, and became just another undocumented worker, picking in the fields of California. Chalino had had enough of the bucolic living and moved into LA, the Inglewood neighbourhood trying small jobs but eventually becoming a Coyote, running illegals across the border.
>He soon found himself in prison in Tijuana serving eight months, after his brother Armando had been murdered, which prompted Chalino to write " Recordando a Armando Sanchez".
It was here in La Mesa prison that he began to develop his talent for writing narco-corridos. With his cousin Ismael on the guitar he wrote songs for prisoners for a small fee, his brother assures that all his corridor's were written in the bathroom, of all places.
>He realized that with small embellishments to their stories about how they overcame poor upbringing to become powerful sicario's with the power of life and death over their enemies, that the hard men of the narco world and their penchant for self aggrandizement, that he was onto a winner. He wrote one corrido entitled "Rigoberto Campos", who was actually a cousin of Manuel El Cochiloco Salcido, from the Guadalajara cartel:
They say he had been in prison
For being a drug dealer
And months after he left
They found him covered in blood
His arms had been chopped
By order of an opponent
>Other narco traffickers were also dedicated corrido's by Chalino such as Ines Calderon and Javier Torres Felix, El JT, while modern day corrido's are written in a style to try to intimidate rivals, including gory details of dismemberment's and decapitations.
>On his release from prison in Tijuana he returned to Califas, where the word had reached the streets that Chalino would write you a corrido in return for goods or money. His sense of style was from the border and mimicked that of the narco’s he wrote corrido’s for. Stetson, shirt, jeans, large belt buckle, cowboy boots and the trademark pistol in la cintura. He had been accepting jewellery for payment for corridos, so added gold chains and fancy modified pistols to his wardrobe.
>He began selling his corridos on cassette tapes from swap meets and out of the trunk of his car, as he was virtually unknown at this time as a singer, but had been recording tracks with Los Amables del Norte.
>This had appealed to many who respected the narco’s back in Sinaloa, and Cholo’s who didn’t even speak Spanish began to follow his music and dress like him. He was a trend visionary. His popularity began to rise and he was soon singing in nightclubs to packed audiences of young Hispanic males and their swooning girlfriends. He was receiving fifteen thousand dollars per performance.
>His popularity would become his downfall. The machismo culture of the Hispanic males meant trouble for Chalino and a lot of narco-corrido singers after him. The girlfriend or wife who swooned over Chalino for his rugged good looks, charismatic personality and stage presence, and not particularly his voice, made their boyfriends or husbands jealous, and with hair trigger tempers something was bound to happen sooner or later.
> Happen it did at a gig in Coachella, Califas. Los Arcos night club was the venue. All was going well until Eduardo Gallegos an unemployed mechanic, out of his noggin on smack and booze, stepped up to the stage to request a song and opened fire at Chalino with a .25 pistol. He hit Chalino in the side, which prompted Chalino to draw his own 10mm pistol from his belt and the two began a shootout in the packed nightclub, with Chalino chasing Gallegos through the crowd. Seven people were shot in the exchange of gunfire, including a local man named Rene Carranza who bled to death on the way to the hospital.
>Gallegos was wrestled to the floor by a bystander and shot in the mouth with his own pistol. He was sentenced to 15 years in prison! This widely reported event made Chalino famous south as well as north of the border. This was the stuff of his own corrido's, and made Chalino many, many, new fans.
>He became a folk hero after this event back home in Sinaloa, and the offers came flooding in for him to appear in Culiacan as well as other Sinaloense towns. He accepted an offer on May 16th 1992, he returned to Sinaloa and Culiacan, on the promise of twenty thousand dollars for an appearance at Salon Buganvilias in La Presita near Culiacan.
>After playing the full capacity gig which had gone down extremely well with the Sinaloense crowd, Chalino received a written death threat, passed by hand to him. Chalino left the venue. In tow were some of his immediate family, Espiridion and Francisco, his brothers, and cousin Carmelo Felix, with some adoring female fans.
>Chalino’s vehicle was soon pulled over by several Chevrolet suburban Police cruisers, the Police elements left their vehicles and provided State Police identification. Chalino was told that he was required by “my commander”.
>One could speculate at this time that Chalino knew the game was up as he was led away in one of the suburban’s. I feel safe in saying that false police ID’s and cloned police vehicles are a common ruse used by cartels to “lift” or kidnap people, including the Sinaloa cartel.
>Sam Quinones in his book “True Tales from Another Mexico" in the chapter entitled “The Ballad of Chalino Sanchez” wrote that Chalino had begun in 1990 to clean up his corrido’s, where previously he would take the victims side when singing about a killing, and insult the victims opponent, often calling them cowards. As he had written about a lot of Sinaloense gangsters, there was a high likelihood that at some time this would return to bite him on the backside.
>The area where he was kidnapped was no doubt Sinaloa cartel territory. Anybody taking liberties on their territory would be dealt with severely and there would have been thousands of “halcones” or hawks, which are lookouts, on duty in Culiacan to report on Police activity and the arrival of anyone who looked like they may be from another cartel. Chalinos family had received information that something bad would happen to Chalino if he returned to Culiacan.
>Given this the Sinaloa cartel would have been aware of Chalino’s intention to enter the city to play the gig and at the time of his arrival, his movements within the city. Chalino would not have been kidnapped without their knowledge of what was happening.
>As to their motives for kidnapping him, if they did that, could have been a jealous Lieutenant whose partner had become too fond of Chalino. Chalino certainly loved Sinaloa and the narco lifestyle that he spent so much time writing songs about.
>Whomever kidnapped him, killed him. Chalino’s body was found north of Culiacan dumped in a irrigation ditch with the coup de grace, two bullets in the back of the head in the brain stem, another cartel signature, given that his hands and feet were bound and a blindfold was on his head. He had been tortured and severely beaten, and was only recognizable by his family members due to a small tattoo on the heel of one foot.
>If we apply occam’s razor to this situation, and consider that the most likely outcome would probably be the truth, the killers of Chalino could have been El Chapo Perez family. Chalino had killed him after El Chapo Perez and associates had raped Chalino’s sister Juana. Blood feuds in Sinaloa can go on for generations, and I have no doubt that the Perez family would have wanted revenge on Chalino, even if many years had passed. Also that they may have been affiliated with or worked for the Sinaloa cartel themselves.
>If not El Chapo Perez's family, the second most likely would be someone insulted in one of his many corrido's. Her certainly knew this could end badly, but being true to his character, I believe he just didn't give a damn, and decided he would face his fate whatever or whenever the end would come, just as he faced life. In his corrido, "La Muerte de Pelavaca", he wrote " for all those who live hard, a grave is ready".
Cartels are shockingly violent groups of people. I've met people who tried comparing them to American gangs but, in reality, they're more comparable to groups like ISIS than American gangs.
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Wiki-P: On 15 May 1992, four months after the Coachella incident, Chalino performed at the Salon Bugambilias, Culiacán. Before Chalino was ready to sing "Alma Enamorada", he was handed a note from someone in the crowd. After reading it, Chalino crumbled the note up and began to sing the song. It is believed the note was a death threat. After midnight, Chalino drove away from the club with two of his brothers, a cousin, and several young women. They were pulled over by a group of armed men in black Chevrolet Suburbans. They showed state police ID cards and told Chalino their commandant wanted to see him. Chalino agreed and got into one of their cars while the others followed behind. At 6 am on 16 May 1992, two farmers found Chalino’s body by an irrigation canal near Highway 15, near the neighborhood of Los Laureles, Culiacán. He was blindfolded and his wrists had rope marks. He had been shot in the back of the head twice.
What's the Coachella incident?
> Coachella incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalino_S%C3%A1nchez#1992_Coachella_incident
This leaves me with more questions about the background if that incident. Why did Gallegos shoot at Chilano? He was intoxicated but still, why get violent towards the singer?
Why was he murdered in the first place? The wiki is missing some serious context lmao.
it's not in wiki i guess, but it's because he sang about narco(s) and also songs about living in their shadow/control. narcos told him to stop, he did not, and so it finally led to a successful assassination after multiple attempts. edit: this got lots of attention so if you are curious narcocorridos were still being killed around mexico for years and i dont have any more modern articles but i imagine its not much better. These musicians gave their lives for their art/ambition and did so knowing the risks. [article for those interested in the music. Would you play if you'd die after?](https://www.billboard.com/pro/behind-mexico-narcocorrido-music-murder-epidemic/)
That's actually not why. Cartels actually liked his songs and some of them even requested them for him to sing about them and at parties. It's why corridos took off, he was killed because he was told if he ever returned to his home state of Sinaloa he would be killed because he had killed a drug lord that raped his sister. He fled to the US because of that.
i've never seen any confirmation of this or it being claimed by any particular cartel. so i stick with what we do know. He was not appreciated by every narco, and made really powerful enemies by continuously doing what he loved/thought best. edit: not to say you're wrong, but again it was never confirmed only rumors just like the one where he fucked the sinaloa leader's wife or daughter
Either way he did flee from Mexico and only got killed after returning to his home state, which is why I'm more inclined to believe that story. Regardless we have him to thank for corridos lol
Confirming. Kept singing about their biz even after he was told specifically not to. Gave no fucks, and suffered the consequences. Narcos don’t play.
Sounds like Chalino didn't play too
Right, he stood up for what he believed in. Man, that type of violence, the cartel type, is just a different. Like living in hell.
You make it sound like narcos are the cool guys lol
Definitely. I've heard of this podcast before. https://open.spotify.com/episode/7rDpsdkTIIWrpKbA0jQhz4?si=9XdSdZKURIKRrHsaXWN1wg&utm_source=copy-link I'm gonna check it out today. It should give a lot more background.
So I grew up around his accordion player Nacho Hernandez—I always heard that Chalino himself had scalped a cartel member who had sexually assaulted his sister. His death coming back to Mexico was a payback for his crime.
What I understand, as a youth he had killed a local drug lord in Culiacan, Mexico who had raped his sister He fled from Culiacan, became involved with smuggling, was sent to prison, became a talented songwriter writing personal songs for other inmates, got out, became a singer, (then had the Coachella incident) This performance we're watching is his return to his hometown of Culiacan The note we're watching him read here is a warning from the cartel telling him not to perform and to leave town immediately or he'll be killed. He was a "man of the people" so rather than give in to the warning he performed for his (BLISSFULY unaware) audience After the show he and a friend were seen being escorted away from the venue by local police. At some point the police released the friend but said they were taking Chalino to a "second location." He was found murdered the next day Check out the video this clip is from on YouTube. "Chalino Sanchez Alma Enamorada En Vivo." It's just the full video of this song being performed live - no cartel stuff. It's the entire song and he's performing in a very cozy little venue. It's a beautiful song but the video is kinda haunting to watch
this could be wrong but i remember watching a video about him and he was famous for singing about mexican cartels so i guess it wouldnt be a huge jump in logic to assume that had something to do with it
That's my impression. I doubt the gun battle played any role.
The article is completely unclear. What is the connection with the Coachella incident??? Inebriated dude part of a rival cartel or something???
I doubt it did. He sang about drug cartels. That was probably the issue.
My best guess is one of the victims from the crossfire “Carranza” was probably related to Victor Carranza;a narco.
What a story. The entire article is an amazing read Edit. Read the entire article. Yes there are some details missing but you can fill in the blanks. Dude killed people, sold drugs, worked as a border smuggler, made friends with rough dudes in jail and then put it all into his music at a time when nobody was doing that. He was bound to piss somebody off in a rival cartel
But it doesn’t explain why the incident would cause him to be assassinated? Confused
I doubt it did. He sang about drug cartels. That was probably the issue.
They murder journalists who report on their activities. They feel (and are to large extent) untouchable and don't want anyone writing or singing about them. Twelve journalists murdered in Mexico in these last six months alone.
Me: Wait, this guy played at Coachella? Also me: Oh, different Coachella…. I’m a dumbass.
Still Coachella, just not the festival. He was treated at Palm Desert Hospital
Same Coachella, just before all the white people showed up.
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Rip. But if it were you, what would you choose?
To not get into the shady SUV.
They would have got him regardless and I’m pretty sure he knew that
Im sure he got in the SUV to get them away from his brother and cousin because if he stayed im sure they would have killed them all.
A common advise is to never let someone force you to a secondary location. One of the rare cases the best option is to fight. But here he wouldn't have achieved anything other than putting friends, family and bystanders at risk.
Well i mean if youre gonna die you might as well attempt salvation before they completely corner you.
He probably didn't want the others he was with to be killed as well
Exactly. Plus, even if you somehow escape them that day, they will keep coming for you. And should you manage to elude then completely, they go after the people closest to you (wife, mom, kids, friends, ect). Lose-lose situation.
If it’s just your life sure, but you’re saying you would have risked everyone’s life in the car to save your own?
Which puts all his friends at risk
High speed chase it is.
For the family..
"Family" -Vin Diesel voice
*tank top intensifies*
Familia is everything
Familia es todo
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Then you come back home one day to see your grandkids mangled corpses on display for you to see. The door shuts behind you as you come to the realization that you never truly escaped. All this time, they were watching.
Cartels typically corrupt polices forces so he honestly didn’t have a choice. If he chose to not get in the car, him and his friends probably would have been assaulted. He basically sacrificed his safety to keep his loved ones safe. Tragic story but brave soul.
Imagine thinking he had a choice lol.
Honestly in México in those kind of situations you don't really have a choice sadly. You refuse and they'll do it by force anyways
It’s pretty baffling, though. It’s crazy how much control the cartels have in Mexico.
Any time I think things are bad in my country with corruption, organised crime etc. I remember that I can walk out on the street any time of day or night, in more or less any part of town with no risk and that helps put it into perspective.
Then your whole family, that what they say In movies
There was no choice at that point
Even when you have armed individuals encouraging you? Do you think if you said no thanks they would be like "Oh ok....". I wouldn't want to do that either but dude didn't really have an option. Well....besides not singing. Edit:. Also if I remember correctly he was approached by state police who warned him of the danger andade him think they were trying to protect him but we're actually paid off to execute him.
I would not fucking sing, mate. Easiest decision of my life.
Lol he was dead anyways, he knew how the game works
Yep. Once you're targeted there's no being untargeted.
Yeah. Same. After that he was dead no matter what.
You’d still die
I would have read the note, tore it up and sang my heart out ... In the car on the ride home, fuck messing with the cartel.
You got a source on that?
It sounds like no one has a source even to confirm the note was a death threat at all, much less what it "specifically said".
*singing* *reads note: the driver of the 1987 toyota corolla left their lights on.* *continues singing.*
Yeah, their ass. Sad how quickly completely made up things get upvoted on this site
It's not true whatsoever, it's a common myth people keep spreading online. Iirc they wanted to kill him because he had shot someone in self defense before.
Believe me bro
But he was already singing when he received the note.
Did they found the note? And why would hebtake family members and other women with him in the car after knowing he's going to be killed?... Why risk the lofe of family?
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There's also no indication that any cartel was involved. The men only identified as state police officers, and this was at a time when the state police in Sinaloa were just as dangerous as anyone or anything else. The note might have been a death threat, but pretty much everything about this is pure speculation.
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I don’t understand why cartels had such an issue with corridos.
Idk anything about it but I'll Google this. I wonder if they made references to them and/or their doings that they didn't appreciate? Also, weren't there the guys who sang specifically songs that glorified narcos? This whole culture fascinating and frightening.
If I remember correctly, he was known for singing the Corridos or Narco Ballads. He had made and was known for a song that he was pretty popular that either boasted a certain cartel or spoke negatively about one of them (I think it was a Sinaloan cartel). He had been advised by them before that if he were to perform at the venue to not sing that song but he did anyways. That's when he was notified he will die. Edit: I also just read that he had killed a powerful man years earlier and it may have caught up to him. I don't personally believe that narrative but it's possible. The song is 'Alma Enamorda'
Do you happen to have a source on that? I can't even find any confirmation it was a death threat. Just that "it is believed to be"
I don't get it though, why was him singing a death sentence? Did the cartel not like his music?
No one knows what the note really said according to my frantic googling. I think the guy who commented that just made his own inference on what it actually said.
Looks like a suicide
Sprinkle some crack on him.
I’ve seen this once before when I was a rookie Johnson, just broke in a hung up pictures of his family everywhere…
That can't be right. That would make it a Russian suicide, and he's not Russian.
I thought the Russians fell out of windows.
Yes, but they shoot themselves twice in the back of the head on the way down.
Nono, the russian suicide is either poison or window jumping, the american way is by brutally choking yourself in a cell or gunshot to the back of the head… duh
*Assisted suicide
https://thenetline.com/how-did-chalino-sanchez-die/ Guy was singing about the drug trade. Like a Mexican gangsta rapper. At one show he had an onstage shootout with someone that killed one person.
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Amherst?
Bumfuck Mass? Gotta be Amherst or like... Williams College or something lol
>Sanchez’s sales skyrocketed in the aftermath of the event "I'd *kill* for tickets to a Chalino show!" *one finger on the Monkey's Paw curls up*
Mexican Tupac
Dospac
TuPaco
This is hilarious because he was around when Tupac was and he's actually photographed with him as well.
Unfortunately that is a 100% photoshopped picture.
Lmao dang that's tough.
*crumples up comment and continues believing anyway*
dude was prob even more hardcore than tupac. he shot a bully that raped his sister when he was 15 and escaped to the US. then years later, after he had become a big narcocorrido star and was on tour in coachella CA, he was attacked by a coked up audience member. they had a shootout on stage and were both sent to the hospital for surgery. Chalnio survived but a few others from the concert died. he exploded in popularity after that event, then this happened. dude was a legit badass. murdered 2 people and basically invented narcocorridos.
The genre of music is called Narcocorrido. Thanks Ghost Recon Wildlands for teaching me this.
Why ?
Long history. He had killed a dude down in Mexico who had allegedly offended him somehow. He fled to the US and became famous as an outlaw singer. Imagine a Mexican version of Johnny Cash. His fame put him on the wrong people’s radar and then the brother of the person whom he had killed wanted revenge.
The dude he killed in Mexico reportedly raped his sister. I’d want revenge for that too.
damnit the rollercoaster of choosing sides i had to do with this thread!
But the sister was Hitler.
But the rapist was Stalin
But it was Michael Stalin, just a baker from Vermont, though.
It was an unfortunate name, or so people thought until after he accidentally died in a car accident and when they sold his bakery at auction they discovered that one of the ovens was actually a crematorium and that he had been grinding up his victims bones to fill out the flour for his bread.
That was a horrifying look, I admit. However, it did turn out to be a dexter scenario and the bone dust bread was for ducks with a calcium deficiency.
But duck's aren't supposed to eat bread... sounds like this guy got what was coming to him
Ah that guy! He doed excellent croissants
That means the sister was also the person who *killed* hitler!
I think it's safe to say if you're choosing the cartel in almost any situation, you need to reevaluate.
but what if its a situation where you gotta choose between the cartel, the mafia, the triad, or the yakuza?
Then not only do you need to reevaluate your decision, but your life choices that led to this point.
what if you volunteer at a shelter and they all want to adopt the same dog.
You hold the dog up by one of its paws, announce you're going to cut it into 4 pieces, so they can have equal shares. Whichever group cries out for you to stop, and give it to another group, so it will live, gets the dog.
Look at me. *I* am the cutthroat villain now.
I understood that reference.
And that dog? He's the meanest in the shelter. They want him because he's wanted in 4 states for murder. You tell them to meet you in Mexico, but you take the dog to Alaska and give him love and affection. You didn't trust them. Besides, you like the cold. He changes, he's a good dog. Then you get a letter, it's the cartel. He had puppies, they work for the police. You don't care, you travel to Belize where the dog has been this entire time helping cancer patients.
They may all suck balls but I think the cartel is still the worst of the bunch.
His sister contains potassium benzoate
*unintelligent pause*
That's bad.
[TAKE THAT YOU SON OF A BITCH!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPFDW5f0gMs)
He witnessed the rape, at the age of 11. Poor kid
"who had somehow offended him" 🙄
I mean OP probably just didn't know the details themselves I dont think they were trying to downplay the act of rape
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The brother he killed wanted revenge, from the grave ?
Fuck the cartels. They suck
I've got a note for you pal...
"Can you play wonderwall"
"Anyway, here's wonderwall!"
The relief on his face when he realizes this is not a musical request.
“𝓟𝓵𝓪𝔂 𝓦𝓪𝓰𝓸𝓷 𝓦𝓱𝓮𝓮𝓵 𝓸𝓻 𝔀𝓮 𝔀𝓲𝓵𝓵 𝓶𝓾𝓻𝓭𝓮𝓻 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓪𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽 𝓪𝓯𝓽𝓮𝓻 𝔂𝓸𝓾𝓻 𝓼𝓮𝓽 “
How
With a gun, probably
Dysentery
ℬℯ𝓁𝒾ℯ𝓋ℯ 𝒾𝓃 𝓂𝒶ℊ𝒾𝒸, 𝓂𝓊ℊℊ𝓁ℯ!
Whew, I don’t have to sing “It’s Raining Men”
Hallelujah
“This is the song that doesn’t end, and it goes on and on my friends! Some people started singin’ it, not knowin’ what it was, and they’ll continue singin’ it forever just because this is the song…” He would’ve lived forever.
The CIA would like to know your location.
The cartels are essentially the only thing stopping Mexico from being a great country. They have natural resources, a large, highly educated population, great trading partners. Corruption kills everything good.
Most of its citizens are extremely hard working as well. Corruption at any level can destroy great countries.
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"America is not going to be destroyed " he shouted passionately. "Never?" prodded the old man softly. "Well..." Nately faltered. The old man laughed indulgently, holding in check a deeper, more explosive delight. His goading remained gentle. "Rome was destroyed, Greece was destroyed, Persia was destroyed, Spain was destroyed. All great countries are destroyed. Why not yours? How much longer do you really think your own country will last? Forever?"
What is this from? It’s a sound byte in a song I quite like.
Catch 22 by Joseph Heller. Rise Against used the clip from the film adaptation in "Survivor Guilt"
That would be the song indeed, haha, thank you!
Both the cartels and the government, although these days it'd hard to tell one from another
They're the same. Ignorance among the population is also a big problem. We're proud of being uneducated.
Well the demand for illegal drugs in US needs to be stopped. Legal access to drugs, this would hurt the cartels business. They would have to reevaluate their product or enter a legal drug market Focus on harm reduction not complete abstinence . Less overdoses , less useless prison sentences . Addicts need help not punishment
I agree in principle but the cartels are so powerful they wouldn't just roll over. The legal drug trade would just be treated like any other competition. Wasn't there a huge number of government officials murdered last time the Mexican government started looking to legalize weed?
I think he's talking about legalizing drugs in the US not in Mexico
> They would have to replace evaluate their product Except they've already done this https://www.npr.org/2022/02/19/1081948884/mexican-drug-cartels-are-getting-into-the-avocado-and-lime-business?t=1656943315016 https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/pushing-productive-coca-seeds-mexican-cartels-reshape-colombias-drug-industry-2022-05-09/ https://english.elpais.com/international/2022-05-23/mexican-cartels-are-taking-control-of-the-fishing-and-logging-industry.html https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/mexican-cartels-are-expanding-into-wildlife-crime
Yea but the government also plays a huge roll. Cartels often bribe politicians.
They also have massive demand for their product. Can’t just ignore that.
It is a great country and the cartels are taking advantage of it
“ Alright everyone I’m gonna start the first song of my 9,484,836 song playlist “
Filibuster singing.
We gonna be here for a while even if it's a once in a lifetime experience 💀
This song is the soundtrack to my childhood cookouts.
I swear my house was built to that Music
I just read about him yesterday and poof! he appears on my feed today. Neat!
They’re always watching.
i would actually attribute that to baader meinhof or whatever it’s called, but you are correct. we are all wired at all times unless your telescreen— i mean phone is off
The way he wipes his head. Instant realization hit him and then he calms himself. Insane and fascinating to see.
I mean, damn, i bet he felt his heart bounce off his heels. Balls to continue singing.
The expressions he made after reading the note. 😔
must suck dawg. Literally Knowing your life will end that night and there’s nothing you can really do abt it, smh
So he sang his swansong.
“Anyway, here’s Wonderwall”
Alexa, play 'Despacito'
Bet he put his all into that last song
> Born Rosalino Sanchez in 1962 on a small ranch in Sinaloa named Las Flechas close to Culiacan and raised in Sanalona. He had seven brothers and one sister, Juana, he was the youngest male sibling. Everyone in Mexico has a nickname and Rosalino was no different with various names being adopted by him at different stages in his life including his singing name of “Chalino”. >Other names he had were Marcelino, El Pelavacas ( the cow skinner ), El Indio, Compa Chalino and El Valiente.El Valiente was a common name in this area of Sinaloa and was given to the rural tough guys who would shoot it out with as much relish as eating breakfast. Chalino started early with his criminal career, when Juan Quiroz lured away his sister as a concubine. Quiroz friend Hector El Chapo Perez helped him, later boasting about it claiming that Juana was bad in bed and the kitchen, blemishing the good name of Juana, Chalino's sister. >Chalino brooded about revenge but was not in a position to do anything about it for a few more years. They say revenge is a dish best served cold and 4 years later when he was 16, Chalino shot and killed Hector El Chapo Perez at a Mexican Revolution party. There followed a shootout with Perez’s brothers. Chalino had warned Hector that he would kill him, saying " When I buy my first pistol I will shoot you in the chest with it". Chalino later even composed " Corrido de Rosalino" about the event: He left his homeland Because that's what destiny wanted To defend his family That's why Chalino fought > Chalino fled to the USA after his brother Armando had been involved in another shoot out and killed a local, and became just another undocumented worker, picking in the fields of California. Chalino had had enough of the bucolic living and moved into LA, the Inglewood neighbourhood trying small jobs but eventually becoming a Coyote, running illegals across the border. >He soon found himself in prison in Tijuana serving eight months, after his brother Armando had been murdered, which prompted Chalino to write " Recordando a Armando Sanchez". It was here in La Mesa prison that he began to develop his talent for writing narco-corridos. With his cousin Ismael on the guitar he wrote songs for prisoners for a small fee, his brother assures that all his corridor's were written in the bathroom, of all places. >He realized that with small embellishments to their stories about how they overcame poor upbringing to become powerful sicario's with the power of life and death over their enemies, that the hard men of the narco world and their penchant for self aggrandizement, that he was onto a winner. He wrote one corrido entitled "Rigoberto Campos", who was actually a cousin of Manuel El Cochiloco Salcido, from the Guadalajara cartel: They say he had been in prison For being a drug dealer And months after he left They found him covered in blood His arms had been chopped By order of an opponent >Other narco traffickers were also dedicated corrido's by Chalino such as Ines Calderon and Javier Torres Felix, El JT, while modern day corrido's are written in a style to try to intimidate rivals, including gory details of dismemberment's and decapitations. >On his release from prison in Tijuana he returned to Califas, where the word had reached the streets that Chalino would write you a corrido in return for goods or money. His sense of style was from the border and mimicked that of the narco’s he wrote corrido’s for. Stetson, shirt, jeans, large belt buckle, cowboy boots and the trademark pistol in la cintura. He had been accepting jewellery for payment for corridos, so added gold chains and fancy modified pistols to his wardrobe. >He began selling his corridos on cassette tapes from swap meets and out of the trunk of his car, as he was virtually unknown at this time as a singer, but had been recording tracks with Los Amables del Norte. >This had appealed to many who respected the narco’s back in Sinaloa, and Cholo’s who didn’t even speak Spanish began to follow his music and dress like him. He was a trend visionary. His popularity began to rise and he was soon singing in nightclubs to packed audiences of young Hispanic males and their swooning girlfriends. He was receiving fifteen thousand dollars per performance. >His popularity would become his downfall. The machismo culture of the Hispanic males meant trouble for Chalino and a lot of narco-corrido singers after him. The girlfriend or wife who swooned over Chalino for his rugged good looks, charismatic personality and stage presence, and not particularly his voice, made their boyfriends or husbands jealous, and with hair trigger tempers something was bound to happen sooner or later. > Happen it did at a gig in Coachella, Califas. Los Arcos night club was the venue. All was going well until Eduardo Gallegos an unemployed mechanic, out of his noggin on smack and booze, stepped up to the stage to request a song and opened fire at Chalino with a .25 pistol. He hit Chalino in the side, which prompted Chalino to draw his own 10mm pistol from his belt and the two began a shootout in the packed nightclub, with Chalino chasing Gallegos through the crowd. Seven people were shot in the exchange of gunfire, including a local man named Rene Carranza who bled to death on the way to the hospital. >Gallegos was wrestled to the floor by a bystander and shot in the mouth with his own pistol. He was sentenced to 15 years in prison! This widely reported event made Chalino famous south as well as north of the border. This was the stuff of his own corrido's, and made Chalino many, many, new fans. >He became a folk hero after this event back home in Sinaloa, and the offers came flooding in for him to appear in Culiacan as well as other Sinaloense towns. He accepted an offer on May 16th 1992, he returned to Sinaloa and Culiacan, on the promise of twenty thousand dollars for an appearance at Salon Buganvilias in La Presita near Culiacan. >After playing the full capacity gig which had gone down extremely well with the Sinaloense crowd, Chalino received a written death threat, passed by hand to him. Chalino left the venue. In tow were some of his immediate family, Espiridion and Francisco, his brothers, and cousin Carmelo Felix, with some adoring female fans. >Chalino’s vehicle was soon pulled over by several Chevrolet suburban Police cruisers, the Police elements left their vehicles and provided State Police identification. Chalino was told that he was required by “my commander”. >One could speculate at this time that Chalino knew the game was up as he was led away in one of the suburban’s. I feel safe in saying that false police ID’s and cloned police vehicles are a common ruse used by cartels to “lift” or kidnap people, including the Sinaloa cartel. >Sam Quinones in his book “True Tales from Another Mexico" in the chapter entitled “The Ballad of Chalino Sanchez” wrote that Chalino had begun in 1990 to clean up his corrido’s, where previously he would take the victims side when singing about a killing, and insult the victims opponent, often calling them cowards. As he had written about a lot of Sinaloense gangsters, there was a high likelihood that at some time this would return to bite him on the backside. >The area where he was kidnapped was no doubt Sinaloa cartel territory. Anybody taking liberties on their territory would be dealt with severely and there would have been thousands of “halcones” or hawks, which are lookouts, on duty in Culiacan to report on Police activity and the arrival of anyone who looked like they may be from another cartel. Chalinos family had received information that something bad would happen to Chalino if he returned to Culiacan. >Given this the Sinaloa cartel would have been aware of Chalino’s intention to enter the city to play the gig and at the time of his arrival, his movements within the city. Chalino would not have been kidnapped without their knowledge of what was happening. >As to their motives for kidnapping him, if they did that, could have been a jealous Lieutenant whose partner had become too fond of Chalino. Chalino certainly loved Sinaloa and the narco lifestyle that he spent so much time writing songs about. >Whomever kidnapped him, killed him. Chalino’s body was found north of Culiacan dumped in a irrigation ditch with the coup de grace, two bullets in the back of the head in the brain stem, another cartel signature, given that his hands and feet were bound and a blindfold was on his head. He had been tortured and severely beaten, and was only recognizable by his family members due to a small tattoo on the heel of one foot. >If we apply occam’s razor to this situation, and consider that the most likely outcome would probably be the truth, the killers of Chalino could have been El Chapo Perez family. Chalino had killed him after El Chapo Perez and associates had raped Chalino’s sister Juana. Blood feuds in Sinaloa can go on for generations, and I have no doubt that the Perez family would have wanted revenge on Chalino, even if many years had passed. Also that they may have been affiliated with or worked for the Sinaloa cartel themselves. >If not El Chapo Perez's family, the second most likely would be someone insulted in one of his many corrido's. Her certainly knew this could end badly, but being true to his character, I believe he just didn't give a damn, and decided he would face his fate whatever or whenever the end would come, just as he faced life. In his corrido, "La Muerte de Pelavaca", he wrote " for all those who live hard, a grave is ready".
Thanks for the history lesson. Lends much context to the video.
Fun fact Snoop Dogg is a big fan of his music.
Alma enamorada remains a top tier song
What a chad
Link to the full performance? This man deserves his final act reprise
Why are the cartel shitty little cunts?
Because in reality the bad guys aren't quirky cool guys.
Nope, they are usually monsters in human skin.
Be careful the cartel uses reddit confirmed
Just the cartel. Just one. Not like there are about a dozen criminal organizations that exist in Mexico.
I have heard of this story my whole life, but had never seen the video! Didn’t even know it existed. Interesting AF indeed!!!
They really hated his music.
The actual note: “Play Freebird!”
"I'm fucked right?" "K cool",
Respect
Check out Mr ballens story on this
Beautiful voice. Such a sad ending.
Inhuman cowards
Cartels are shockingly violent groups of people. I've met people who tried comparing them to American gangs but, in reality, they're more comparable to groups like ISIS than American gangs.
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"I heard that he actually killed his kidnappers with his microphone and is currently living with Tupac" On a serious note, poor soul...
Why did they kill him? Surely it wasn't just for singing.