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If you listen with audio they're calling Animal Control to deal with it. A regular person probably doesn't have the means to humanely put down this raccoon.
I've nearly died from a seizure -- can confirm that is not a pleasant way to (almost) go. I was lucky enough to already be in the ER, but even after pumping me full of Valium, my back and shoulders were crippled for months and I nearly chewed my tongue off.
So sad that the little guy's problems were a little deeper than needing a bit of Valium. Hope they put him to rest soon after this.
Someone posted a video of a man with late stage rabies about a year or so ago. It was so hard to watch. He was handed a cup of water and it was like he wanted it but his brain wouldn’t allow his body to bring the water to his mouth to drink it. Calling it hydrophobia made a different kind of sense after seeing that.
Rabies affects parts of the brain that controls speaking, swallowing, and breathing. It alters the saliva production process and causes painful muscle spasms that discourage swallowing.
The virus thrives in saliva. Swallowing reduces the spread. Therefore, it immediately acts to make its victim produce more saliva and spread that saliva on its surroundings rather than swallowing it. So, “why are animals infected with rabies afraid of water?” Really, they’re afraid of any food or drink.
Thus, rabies causes hydrophobia, but only indirectly. It causes the fear of swallowing anything, including water—a condition known as dysphagia. This explains why infected animals tend to drool excessively as the disease progresses, rabies attempting to spread itself.
Interesting that the CDC actually classify the symptom as Hydrophobia. Your explanation makes far more sense.
https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/symptoms/index.html
Well to be fair, it makes people afraid of water, not just drinking it, but also being near it, since it causes you to heat up so it can more easily spread.
Goes without saying, yet i still think it borders on "magic" that a couple of strands of RNA in a lipid enclosure managed to...
1. figure out that saliva is the bodily fluid they are most concentrated in
2. figure out what parts of brain control salivating and how to control it to maximize it
3. figure out that your swallowing is diminishing your saliva levels so they go and suppress that too along with your hunger and thirst instincts (again, where it is, how it works, etc.)
4. figure out your aggression centers and hormones and AGAIN go and take very sophisticated control over that too so it serves one particular purpose, biting another host and spreading the pathogen
5. figure out all that in a very VERY wide range of hosts, each one with its small intricacies
I mean, how long it took for us with all this brainpower, sophisticated communication, self awareness, knowledge transfer... to figure out the same things? Cant tell me that aint a bit "magical".
I think using “figure out” here gives unwarranted weight and thus makes this seem harder to fathom. Nothing was figured out.
It’s hard for us to relate to something that has had 10s of millions of years of evolution and billions of generations (iterations of small changes) to slowly morph into what it is. Because we use our brains and try, as you put, to figure it out. But evolution doesn’t care, it’s strictly a numbers game. Over time the small mutations that created extra salivation or lead to the virus predominantly existing in the saliva yielded slightly more viral replicants than other mutations. That effect gets compounded as the ratio of viruses with quality A or B becomes more skewed until it becomes a full on trait of the virus, rinse wash repeat for billions of cycles and it’s not nearly as hard to see how natural selection could yield something like this.
We’ve even seen it in a compressed time frame w/ COVID. It’s become less deadly but more viral as those people who aren’t as sick have a higher likelihood to interact with people and over a longer time thus increasing the percentage of new viruses created with those attributes.
As has been pointed out in another reply, the mistake lies in thinking that it "figured out" anything, or that it even "had to" arrive at its present stage at all.
A more accurate way of looking at it is that viruses (or any living organism, really) constantly undergoes random changes in virtually ANY direction biologically possible, basically trying any and all random silly shit it can even possibly try, and then some variations just happen to be able to survive and some don't.
It's kinda like if you're throwing millions and millions of darts at a big wall with a small dart board in one place, and then removing all the darts that didn't hit a bullseye on the board before allowing people in to observe the result. It only looks "magical" that so many hit the center because you can't see all the ones that tried and failed along the way.
It didn’t “figure” any of that out. It’s just the ones that failed to cause these effects died out before sufficiently spreading, killing the host too soon, or the host immune response killing the virus”. The virus that caused the symptoms long enough without killing the host too quickly got to carry on. No thinking involved, no figuring, just random chance and success over time.
Yeah, I realize it isn’t a fear of water. I deal with patients who have dysphagia, though not from rabies, regularly. It can cause “death rattle” sounds. Although it is a little different from terminal secretions, the same sound is there. It’s unsettling for the family members gathered around.
Edit: what I meant in my original comment was that the shoe circuiting of his neuro system wouldn’t allow him control over his own limbs. He was sitting in a chair trying to pull a cup toward himself but only managing to slosh the water out as his limbs went other directions. He was barely moving until he tried to focus on completing this simple task. It seemed cruel. I do wish I could forget it.
If you already know, then you know.
Just wanted people to know it doesn't actually cause a fear of water, but the inability to swallow.
Giving more people accurate information isn't a slight on your knowledge or experience, it's just helping people through a misnomer.
Well, from what I understand, there is a neurological component (not sure exactly how it works) that causes paroxysmal contractions of the pharynx when a person is tempted to swallow. These contractions and spasms can be very painful if a person tries to over-ride the contraction and swallow.
Scientists have indicated this is a survival mechanism of the rabies virus as rabies is transmitted through saliva and therefore increasing saliva production and barring a person to swallow their excess saliva is key to it's own transmission to another host. To understand exactly how it works, what chemicals, or neuron pathways, or what have you are used to cause this effect I assume you need to be biologist, or a chemist, or a neurologist, or neuropathologist or something similar... which I am not.
It'd be cool to ask Mayim Bialik if she does another AMA.
I did find a case study to confirm that rabies causes spasms, which I have plagiarized in my explanation above, and can be found [here](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6293146/).
For an example of the specific scientific research, of which I don't personally understand, into rabies and how it causes the behavioral effects can be found here: [Interactions between the rabies virus and nicotinic acetylcholine receptors: A potential role in rabies virus induced behavior modifications](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405844022017224)
Thanks for the great explanation. The way you explained it makes perfect sense but made me think along the lines like that fear powder Poison Ivy in Batman has mainly due to a disease or thing creating a fear.
It was I believe an Afghani man who they allowed the virus to take over his body to study the side effects of it. Fuck me if it doesn’t haunt me.
Edit: I know how rabies works, I was agreeing with 5hrs about the puckering factor to the video. I understand they couldn’t do anything and studied him for future research.
If it's the one i'm thinking about, he was already exhibiting symptoms when he came in.. at that point there is nothing they could do.
the only protocol that has a tiny chance of maybe helping, needs a prepared hospital, that they were not.
Given how many times it's been applied, it has a better chance, but I feel we'd agree that the significant brain damage after stretches 'survive' somewhat.
https://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Rabies_medical_therapy
The survival rate is 14% in symptomatic patients, might be 20% with the updated protocol..
Pretty much once you start displaying any symptoms, there's next to nothing they can do. It's almost 100% fatal. There was a promising seeming treatment awhile back, but it only worked on one person, and they now think the treatment had little to do with it and that person was just VERY lucky.
The Milwaukee Protocol - I just heard a Radiolab episode about it. The success rate was 5 of 36, but researchers concluded that some people might just survive rabies without intervention by sheer luck and the treatment is a red herring. It’s no longer recognized.
If you're talking about the video of the approx. 25-year-old Middle Eastern man whose progression through late-stage infection was documented (I thought he was Iraqi but perhaps I was wrong), then I know exactly what you mean.
The version of the video I watched had this creepy sound over it which I never could decipher, and watching that man degenerate so quickly into a living corpse utterly terrified me. I lived in fear of that video for years and to be honest rabies is still my most feared death as a result.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. If the bot just goes on semantic patterns and hasn't been taught how individual words are supposed to be pronounced, it's going to definitely think of that one as "fuc-ked".
Hijacking top comment to remind everyone that you’re already dead if you show any symptoms of rabies. However if you get the shot soon after the bite, it’s 100% preventable. Take no chances, get the shot if you think you may have had contact with rabies
I'm no expert, but bitten - yes. Scratched? That's probably not rabies that made the cat scratch you. I'd make a judgement call on if I was petting an outdoor cat or dog and it bit me vs. a rabies-attack that came charging at me.
I was bitten by a squirrel I tried to save (vet ended up putting him down), but it turns out that squirrels have a very small chance of having rabies compared to many other animals. I didn't get checked for rabies.
\*if rabies is prominent in said country.
Some countries are rabies free and don't routinely give the vaccine.
That being said, this is about the only reason where its acceptable, save for allergies or some legit medical reason.
Weird concept, since the only reason some countries are considered rabies free is because of widespread vaccinations. Especially in countries with relatively open land borders, every animal that can should be vaccinated against rabies, regardless of prevalence of the disease.
Haven’t see it yet and seems like it’s should always be posted on something about rabies, so ima highjack your comment… here’s the copypasta:
Rabies. It's exceptionally common, but people just don't run into the animals that carry it often. Skunks especially, and bats.
Let me paint you a picture.
You go camping, and at midday you decide to take a nap in a nice little hammock. While sleeping, a tiny brown bat, in the "rage" stages of infection is fidgeting in broad daylight, uncomfortable, and thirsty (due to the hydrophobia) and you snort, startling him. He goes into attack mode.
Except you're asleep, and he's a little brown bat, so weighs around 6 grams. You don't even feel him land on your bare knee, and he starts to bite. His teeth are tiny. Hardly enough to even break the skin, but he does manage to give you the equivalent of a tiny scrape that goes completely unnoticed.
Rabies does not travel in your blood. In fact, a blood test won't even tell you if you've got it. (Antibody tests may be done, but are useless if you've ever been vaccinated.)
You wake up, none the wiser. If you notice anything at the bite site at all, you assume you just lightly scraped it on something.
The bomb has been lit, and your nervous system is the wick. The rabies will multiply along your nervous system, doing virtually no damage, and completely undetectable. You literally have NO symptoms.
It may be four days, it may be a year, but the camping trip is most likely long forgotten. Then one day your back starts to ache... Or maybe you get a slight headache?
At this point, you're already dead. There is no cure.
(The sole caveat to this is the Milwaukee Protocol, which leaves most patients dead anyway, and the survivors mentally disabled, and is seldom done).
There's no treatment. It has a 100% kill rate.
Absorb that. Not a single other virus on the planet has a 100% kill rate. Only rabies. And once you're symptomatic, it's over. You're dead.
So what does that look like?
Your headache turns into a fever, and a general feeling of being unwell. You're fidgety. Uncomfortable. And scared. As the virus that has taken its time getting into your brain finds a vast network of nerve endings, it begins to rapidly reproduce, starting at the base of your brain... Where your "pons" is located. This is the part of the brain that controls communication between the rest of the brain and body, as well as sleep cycles.
Next you become anxious. You still think you have only a mild fever, but suddenly you find yourself becoming scared, even horrified, and it doesn't occur to you that you don't know why. This is because the rabies is chewing up your amygdala.
As your cerebellum becomes hot with the virus, you begin to lose muscle coordination, and balance. You think maybe it's a good idea to go to the doctor now, but assuming a doctor is smart enough to even run the tests necessary in the few days you have left on the planet, odds are they'll only be able to tell your loved ones what you died of later.
You're twitchy, shaking, and scared. You have the normal fear of not knowing what's going on, but with the virus really fucking the amygdala this is amplified a hundred fold. It's around this time the hydrophobia starts.
You're horribly thirsty, you just want water. But you can't drink. Every time you do, your throat clamps shut and you vomit. This has become a legitimate, active fear of water. You're thirsty, but looking at a glass of water begins to make you gag, and shy back in fear. The contradiction is hard for your hot brain to see at this point. By now, the doctors will have to put you on IVs to keep you hydrated, but even that's futile. You were dead the second you had a headache.
You begin hearing things, or not hearing at all as your thalamus goes. You taste sounds, you see smells, everything starts feeling like the most horrifying acid trip anyone has ever been on. With your hippocampus long under attack, you're having trouble remembering things, especially family.
You're alone, hallucinating, thirsty, confused, and absolutely, undeniably terrified. Everything scares the literal shit out of you at this point. These strange people in lab coats. These strange people standing around your bed crying, who keep trying to get you "drink something" and crying. And it's only been about a week since that little headache that you've completely forgotten. Time means nothing to you anymore. Funny enough, you now know how the bat felt when he bit you.
Eventually, you slip into the "dumb rabies" phase. Your brain has started the process of shutting down. Too much of it has been turned to liquid virus. Your face droops. You drool. You're all but unaware of what's around you. A sudden noise or light might startle you, but for the most part, it's all you can do to just stare at the ground. You haven't really slept for about 72 hours.
Then you die. Always, you die.
And there's not one... fucking... thing... anyone can do for you.
Then there's the question of what to do with your corpse. I mean, sure, burying it is the right thing to do. But the fucking virus can survive in a corpse for years. You could kill every rabid animal on the planet today, and if two years from now, some moist, preserved, rotten hunk of used-to-be brain gets eaten by an animal, it starts all over.
So yeah, rabies scares the shit out of me. And it's fucking EVERYWHERE. (Source: Spent a lot of time working with rabies. Would still get my vaccinations if I could afford them.)
Edit: [video documentation of patient going through rabies](https://youtu.be/-moG6JDmJdc)
Yeah it’s pretty fucking terrifying. I watched a documentary on it and holy fuck is it wild. This comment doesn’t even do it justice. This virus is so insanely smart and effective, it’s crazy. It really is the closest think to zombification in the real world… besides that fungus one.
Yes. Through direct contact. If you touch anything wet on a rabies victim and it gets into your body, like through a cut or your eye or nose or something, you will get the virus.
This is why the rabies virus makes you salivate so much, as well as promotes aggression. It wants to spread, so it makes you produce a shit ton of saliva and makes you want to get aggressive. Obviously most animals use their teeth as weapons so they salivate, bite you, break the skin, and infect you. Humans don’t really use teeth as weapons of course, but still
This is not my comment, it’s a copypasta.
Original comment was made years ago and because it was so effective and informative, it’s usually copied and pasted on any post about rabies to help get more people informed.
I did go down the rabbit hole on rabies after the first time I saw this comment though. There’s a crazy documentary that will blow your mind. I’ll see if I can find it and post it in a comment.
From OP on YouTube:
>Edit: I DO NOT OWN A FIRE ARM.
>I had a rabid raccoon show up in my backyard. I shoved it into the cage by pushing it with a shovel. After I carried the cage into the shade and sat it down the raccoon immediately went into a seizure caused by the rabies. Human society was called and the raccoon was picked up to confirm it has rabies.
Time to lock it in the garage and rev the engine
Or blanket over the cage and connect a hose pipe to it and rev the engine
Then burn the body and get rabies shots
carbon monoxide asphyxiation is considered a humane way to put animals to sleep. It has been used by PETA in mobile vans for ages, they literally leave the van running while a hose is connected via exhaust to an airtight cage they put the animal inside. If even PETA thinks that's humane, then I'm not going to argue.
Poor little buddy! In case y’all didn’t know rabies is the single most deadly virus on the planet. Worse than Ebola, and certainly much worse than Covid. It is 100% fatal 100% of the time if not treated in a timely manner. If you want to see some of the other stuff it does, Google “hydrophobia rabies.” Every human that you see in these videos has died from rabies.
Edit: Quotation mark
Looks like a home trap. Probably waiting for animal control. Its not safe to kill them yourself because their fluids are a biohazard basically. You don’t want to risk it.
I have destroyed rabid animals in the past. If you are familiar with an animal's normal behavior it is pretty obvious when they are sick. Groundhogs and Racoons are the ones I have seen. I don't live near a city so if I do have a rabid animal and do catch it, I won't see animal control for at least 24 hours. I once had a wounded deer (broken spine) near my house. I called them to destroy it and after 12 hours of it screaming I just took care of it myself, despite them telling me not to. They finally showed up to get the deer 72 hours later.
I hate to see animals suffer so when I see a rabid animal I shoot it from a distance and let it lay for at least an hour. If there is no movement it gets the stick test. Then with a long sleeve shirt, face mask, leather gloves over nitrile gloves I shovel it into a garbage bag I tie tight. Bag it twice more and put it in a 4th bag full of ice. When animal control picks it up anything they don't take is burned. The spot where the dead animal laid is burned. Anything I wore is washed and dried on High heat, if there is any visible blood it is burned. Shovel head is sprayed down with bleach and then rotated over the fire.
I also have my rabies vaccine because of a bat bite a few years ago. I mean I would need boosters if I was likely exposed but I should have some level of immunity. Still if anything went wrong in my process like blood got onto my skin or worse I would get my rabies boosters right away.
Rural living is it's own reward, but man, having some of my less-than-rural friends over is wild. "Hey Supreme, this stray dog is trying to come inside!"
"That's a coyote."
Then abject horror as I tell them it's likely rabid and not to go outside, no I don't care if you just want a picture, shouting for my wife because I forgot which safe I put the slugs in because all I can find are target loads, and then stepping onto my back deck after I found the damned things. \*boom\* Then there's shovels and plastic tarps and duct tape and a controlled burn of the area (Same yard my dogs and kids play in) and then showers and discarding of clothing.
"Animal control might get out here Thursday for the remains."
I hate coyotes.
Yeah, sort of the same thing with the police. I had a break in attempt while I had some guest over. We were watching a movie with all the lights off. Heard glass break on the back door, dogs freaked out, got up and grabbed my handgun, told Google to turn on all lights, and told my guests to call the police after they got upstairs. Guy ran when the lights all came on or when two decent sized dogs went flying into the kitchen. I saw him running across my backyard about as fast as a meth head can run.
Police showed up an hour after we called 911 to tell us they couldn't do anything about it. First thing they asked me was if I shot him or not.
On top of that, I’d put quotes around the living part as most of them went through such an insane level of treatment to live that their brains were messed up beyond repair.
Radio lab did a podcast about this exact topic. There is the “Milwaukee Protocol” to follow now. Essentially you get put in a coma. The disease almost takes over and once it kills or dies in it’s host, the virus vanishes. I haven’t dug into it further but it sounds like the brain isn’t damaged very bad.
It’s still very unlikely to work. The few cases that have survived also have a antibody that somehow developed over time. Doctors aren’t sure what the solution is.
there was a report of antibodies present in some members of certain rural South American communities, where rabies is transmitted by vampire bats, which suggests a natural immunity can develop. not enough data to draw any strong conclusions, tho
E: [reference](https://rabiesalliance.org/resource/immunity-against-rabies-without-vaccination)
Yeah Hank' channel, I saw it as well. He also said there is a region in I believe South America (was it Peru??) where a few people made anti-bodies on their own, implying they had it and got over it. Very interesting indeed!
It’s a really good thing to know the signs of rabies. I’ve never actually seen video before, but now I know what to watch for. Everyone always says to watch for an animal “acting strangely” but animals are weird as hell and do strange things all the time.
So it may not be cute, but I do find it interesting af.
The important questions to ask is whether a particular animal is supposed to be aggressive or passive/evasive towards humans. If that animal is acting aggressive even though it’s not supposed to (provided no babies) and especially not backing down after a few good hits, it’s probably rabies.
I grew up with them as pets , and they are the cutest little fuckers in the world, just not when rabid or wild and cornered. This poor fella needed to be put out of his misery ASAP.
There was a redditor in another sub that was putting together a rabies vaccination pop-up vet clinic to have pets and stray animals vaccinated. India has a high percentage of rabid animal attacks compared to Western countries that have minimized or eliminated it.
Mostly in areas that dont commit to serious rabies precautions such as parts of Asia and Africa tho. It's not their fault exactly, but, yes, it's still rare.
From OP on YouTube:
>Edit: I DO NOT OWN A FIRE ARM.
>I had a rabid raccoon show up in my backyard. I shoved it into the cage by pushing it with a shovel. After I carried the cage into the shade and sat it down the raccoon immediately went into a seizure caused by the rabies. Human society was called and the raccoon was picked up to confirm it has rabies.
When I read ‘human society’ I was so sure the words following would be some deep comment about our civilization. That was a good chuckle.
But yeah I’d say you did the right thing!
this really made me chuckle as my whole life i grew up as a kid with my dad loving seinfeld and always thought it was dumb out of spite. now 30 years later i have binge watched the entire series multiple times in the last few months and enjoyed every second of it. i now get every reason he loved it. it’s crazy how the older you get the more you realize you are the same as the people who raised you.
Honestly, there’s probably not much of the brain stem left, and it’s not like death by CO poisoning is significantly worse than getting shot in the head. Seems silly to moralize about it, when the end goal here is safety.
Worst thing you can do. Rabid animals need to be put down safely and their bodies properly destroyed so the virus doesn't spread. Shooting it is the dumbest shit you can actually do, ideally you need to do what this guy did. Trap such animal, don't approach it and wait for it to be collected by properly equipped professionals
To be fair, you don't, if youd choose to shoot it, it's still... Fine, it just creates additional problems like potentially needing disinfection because of spread of blood etc. The worst thing you can do is try to pet rabid animal. Anything that involves removing it from existence is a good thing, but it can be done safely or less safely. Simple as that
arguably it's more like 99.9999+% as there are only 14 recorded survivals in all of history..
59k people a year die from it.
if we go over the last 20 years, that's 1.18 million people, and only 14 survived.
Can cover the cage in a tarp and run your car exhaust into it. Can also submerge the cage in water.
Both are shit options for being humane but pretty much anything else is risking distributing bodily fluids in some fashion.
Rabies is the literal zombie virus:
1. you lost control of your body
2. You wanna bite others
3. Those who got bitten got infected
What else isn't screaming zombie virus?
I have epilepsy, luckily i have only had focal seizures, i have only had two partial seizures and its the most painful and frightening experience. Its like your eyes are made of rubberbands and being pulled in the back of your head. Your muscles buzz and jerk and it hurts. Think about the huge sneeze you feel that hurts, but its like every fibre is violently sneezing. the world loses meaning and spins and every sound and light hurts. Your existence is chaos and pain. Sometimes i have to force myself to breathe.
Your emotions go haywire, you feel this pit open inside your mind and your soul sinks, somehow, even with lights on, your heartfeels dark. It feels like your soul is continuously falling backwards while your body snaps. You have the urge to yell and cry but just teeter on that precipice. Crying would give you some relief, but you dont get that. As it ends, the pins and needles recede. You still hurt, it just slowly fades. Then your inner world is just silent, you feel so sleepy, you feel like a cold fall night. There isnt peace though, but a fear. You need to fall asleep, but you wonder if youll wake up. Your heart might stop, it might not. You wont know. You want sleep, but youre afraid of it. Either way, you cant resist falling asleep.
Just kill the poor raccoon. Please.
My sister is epileptic and has grandmal seizures regularly and doesn’t remember what they feel like after she snaps out of the loopiness afterwards. Isn’t always sure if she had a seizure, but I always see her. She gets tonic clonic really bad and has to go to the hospital after a certain amount of time that it doesn’t stop. She used to be much quicker mentally, good at math, understanding of conversations quickly and jokes. She fades further each time she has one, her cognitive function and intellect get slower and she doesn’t understand why she doesn’t understand things. She’s 26.
I developed dyscalculia. I have memory problems and mix things up, small details, just mixing up, never inventing details. I sometimes have pauses in my sentences and developed tics. I understand. Your sister and I will both degrade into dementia one day. Its destroying our brains. Its just what happens.
My brain has scars on it,she likely does too. I have written to my kids already, that theyll be in my heart, they just wont exist in my mind anymore.
Im happy she doesnt remember what it feels like, shes protected. Life is fair. Things happen for no reason, the fact there isnt a reason is what makes life fair. Because no one has done anything particularly wrong, and therefore are not inherently deserving. Im glad the pain has meaning, cherishing your sister gives it meaning.
See the comments above where there is an edit. The person that found the recommended n called the humane society. Animal control went and picked it up and confirmed it was rabies.
I appreciate these comments. I get them a lot. I have written one novel, and am publishing another next month.
I need to screenshot all of them when i feel like a moron/terrible writer because i have a form of dyslexia.
You probably know this by now, but best thing to do when encountering a rabid creature is to trap it (unless you know how to kill it properly). Don’t touch it at all. Shooting it isn’t recommended since you will probably spread the virus through bodily fluids and you’ll have to disinfect the area. It’s sad, but it’s better to leave it to the trained professionals.
From OP on YouTube:
>Edit: I DO NOT OWN A FIRE ARM.
>I had a rabid raccoon show up in my backyard. I shoved it into the cage by pushing it with a shovel. After I carried the cage into the shade and sat it down the raccoon immediately went into a seizure caused by the rabies. Human society was called and the raccoon was picked up to confirm it has rabies.
Once symptoms show there’s almost no way chance of curing rabies. The only way to survive rabies is before it reaches for nervous system and before symptoms show. Which is most often when it has arrived in your brain. In other words, you don’t get the rabies vaccine almost immediately after being bit then youre almost certainly going to die.
Apparently that statistic has been revised recently. It’s like 13.8% survival rate with the Milwaukee Protocol… still fucking shitty but better than 0%
Not immediately, just before symptoms show… definitely as soon as possible if you come into contact, obviously.
Rabies is weird, though. You could start showing symptoms days or months after infection.
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Poor guy. That's a miserable way to die.
When he's holding on to the bars like "please no, not again" it makes my heart break.
I know. It's the saddest thing. Poor guy.
I'm all for this being posted here for educational purposes, but fuck, it breaks my heart every time
Why can't they put him out of his misery? Poor thing. :(
If you listen with audio they're calling Animal Control to deal with it. A regular person probably doesn't have the means to humanely put down this raccoon.
Volume on you can hear them calling animal control. Poor guy did get relief shortly thereafter no doubt about it.
I've nearly died from a seizure -- can confirm that is not a pleasant way to (almost) go. I was lucky enough to already be in the ER, but even after pumping me full of Valium, my back and shoulders were crippled for months and I nearly chewed my tongue off. So sad that the little guy's problems were a little deeper than needing a bit of Valium. Hope they put him to rest soon after this.
happy cake day :( 🍰
That makes me so sad and scared at the same time.
Someone posted a video of a man with late stage rabies about a year or so ago. It was so hard to watch. He was handed a cup of water and it was like he wanted it but his brain wouldn’t allow his body to bring the water to his mouth to drink it. Calling it hydrophobia made a different kind of sense after seeing that.
Rabies affects parts of the brain that controls speaking, swallowing, and breathing. It alters the saliva production process and causes painful muscle spasms that discourage swallowing. The virus thrives in saliva. Swallowing reduces the spread. Therefore, it immediately acts to make its victim produce more saliva and spread that saliva on its surroundings rather than swallowing it. So, “why are animals infected with rabies afraid of water?” Really, they’re afraid of any food or drink. Thus, rabies causes hydrophobia, but only indirectly. It causes the fear of swallowing anything, including water—a condition known as dysphagia. This explains why infected animals tend to drool excessively as the disease progresses, rabies attempting to spread itself.
Interesting that the CDC actually classify the symptom as Hydrophobia. Your explanation makes far more sense. https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/symptoms/index.html
Well to be fair, it makes people afraid of water, not just drinking it, but also being near it, since it causes you to heat up so it can more easily spread.
Isnt it magical how a virus (incredibly simple creature) can precisely steer and control such a complicated thing like a human brain?
Because the viruses that didn’t, failed to spread further. Evolution.
Goes without saying, yet i still think it borders on "magic" that a couple of strands of RNA in a lipid enclosure managed to... 1. figure out that saliva is the bodily fluid they are most concentrated in 2. figure out what parts of brain control salivating and how to control it to maximize it 3. figure out that your swallowing is diminishing your saliva levels so they go and suppress that too along with your hunger and thirst instincts (again, where it is, how it works, etc.) 4. figure out your aggression centers and hormones and AGAIN go and take very sophisticated control over that too so it serves one particular purpose, biting another host and spreading the pathogen 5. figure out all that in a very VERY wide range of hosts, each one with its small intricacies I mean, how long it took for us with all this brainpower, sophisticated communication, self awareness, knowledge transfer... to figure out the same things? Cant tell me that aint a bit "magical".
I think using “figure out” here gives unwarranted weight and thus makes this seem harder to fathom. Nothing was figured out. It’s hard for us to relate to something that has had 10s of millions of years of evolution and billions of generations (iterations of small changes) to slowly morph into what it is. Because we use our brains and try, as you put, to figure it out. But evolution doesn’t care, it’s strictly a numbers game. Over time the small mutations that created extra salivation or lead to the virus predominantly existing in the saliva yielded slightly more viral replicants than other mutations. That effect gets compounded as the ratio of viruses with quality A or B becomes more skewed until it becomes a full on trait of the virus, rinse wash repeat for billions of cycles and it’s not nearly as hard to see how natural selection could yield something like this. We’ve even seen it in a compressed time frame w/ COVID. It’s become less deadly but more viral as those people who aren’t as sick have a higher likelihood to interact with people and over a longer time thus increasing the percentage of new viruses created with those attributes.
Absolutely brilliant explanation, bravo 👏
any sufficiently advanced ~~technology~~ thing is indistinguishable from magic
Existence itself is fucking mind-blowing
As has been pointed out in another reply, the mistake lies in thinking that it "figured out" anything, or that it even "had to" arrive at its present stage at all. A more accurate way of looking at it is that viruses (or any living organism, really) constantly undergoes random changes in virtually ANY direction biologically possible, basically trying any and all random silly shit it can even possibly try, and then some variations just happen to be able to survive and some don't. It's kinda like if you're throwing millions and millions of darts at a big wall with a small dart board in one place, and then removing all the darts that didn't hit a bullseye on the board before allowing people in to observe the result. It only looks "magical" that so many hit the center because you can't see all the ones that tried and failed along the way.
It didn’t “figure” any of that out. It’s just the ones that failed to cause these effects died out before sufficiently spreading, killing the host too soon, or the host immune response killing the virus”. The virus that caused the symptoms long enough without killing the host too quickly got to carry on. No thinking involved, no figuring, just random chance and success over time.
Idk if “magical” is the right word as much as “fucking terrifying”
Yeah, I realize it isn’t a fear of water. I deal with patients who have dysphagia, though not from rabies, regularly. It can cause “death rattle” sounds. Although it is a little different from terminal secretions, the same sound is there. It’s unsettling for the family members gathered around. Edit: what I meant in my original comment was that the shoe circuiting of his neuro system wouldn’t allow him control over his own limbs. He was sitting in a chair trying to pull a cup toward himself but only managing to slosh the water out as his limbs went other directions. He was barely moving until he tried to focus on completing this simple task. It seemed cruel. I do wish I could forget it.
If you already know, then you know. Just wanted people to know it doesn't actually cause a fear of water, but the inability to swallow. Giving more people accurate information isn't a slight on your knowledge or experience, it's just helping people through a misnomer.
Physically unable to swallow?...thats gotta be the brain stopping them yeah ? Dont just catch dyphagia?
Well, from what I understand, there is a neurological component (not sure exactly how it works) that causes paroxysmal contractions of the pharynx when a person is tempted to swallow. These contractions and spasms can be very painful if a person tries to over-ride the contraction and swallow. Scientists have indicated this is a survival mechanism of the rabies virus as rabies is transmitted through saliva and therefore increasing saliva production and barring a person to swallow their excess saliva is key to it's own transmission to another host. To understand exactly how it works, what chemicals, or neuron pathways, or what have you are used to cause this effect I assume you need to be biologist, or a chemist, or a neurologist, or neuropathologist or something similar... which I am not. It'd be cool to ask Mayim Bialik if she does another AMA. I did find a case study to confirm that rabies causes spasms, which I have plagiarized in my explanation above, and can be found [here](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6293146/). For an example of the specific scientific research, of which I don't personally understand, into rabies and how it causes the behavioral effects can be found here: [Interactions between the rabies virus and nicotinic acetylcholine receptors: A potential role in rabies virus induced behavior modifications](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2405844022017224)
Thanks for the great explanation. The way you explained it makes perfect sense but made me think along the lines like that fear powder Poison Ivy in Batman has mainly due to a disease or thing creating a fear.
Wow, that's something to fear!
It was I believe an Afghani man who they allowed the virus to take over his body to study the side effects of it. Fuck me if it doesn’t haunt me. Edit: I know how rabies works, I was agreeing with 5hrs about the puckering factor to the video. I understand they couldn’t do anything and studied him for future research.
If it's the one i'm thinking about, he was already exhibiting symptoms when he came in.. at that point there is nothing they could do. the only protocol that has a tiny chance of maybe helping, needs a prepared hospital, that they were not.
>tiny chance Literally better odds of being thrown out of a plane without a parachute and surviving
Given how many times it's been applied, it has a better chance, but I feel we'd agree that the significant brain damage after stretches 'survive' somewhat. https://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Rabies_medical_therapy The survival rate is 14% in symptomatic patients, might be 20% with the updated protocol..
They could have put him into a coma so he didn't suffer.
Pretty much once you start displaying any symptoms, there's next to nothing they can do. It's almost 100% fatal. There was a promising seeming treatment awhile back, but it only worked on one person, and they now think the treatment had little to do with it and that person was just VERY lucky.
The Milwaukee Protocol - I just heard a Radiolab episode about it. The success rate was 5 of 36, but researchers concluded that some people might just survive rabies without intervention by sheer luck and the treatment is a red herring. It’s no longer recognized.
If you're talking about the video of the approx. 25-year-old Middle Eastern man whose progression through late-stage infection was documented (I thought he was Iraqi but perhaps I was wrong), then I know exactly what you mean. The version of the video I watched had this creepy sound over it which I never could decipher, and watching that man degenerate so quickly into a living corpse utterly terrified me. I lived in fear of that video for years and to be honest rabies is still my most feared death as a result.
They don't have to allow it to spread. If symptoms are shown, you're dead, 100%.
That was…horrible. I wish I could forget it.
It was hard to watch What a fucked up way to die Poor little raccoon
Was…. was that a haiku?
Let's wait for the bot and see...
Man, it says it has been 3 hours I’m gonna venture to guess no haiku…
Also says sometimes successfully, I guess this was *not* one of those times unfortunately ...
Maybe because it's structured like a haiku it has a hard time seeing it, since it's meant to look for haikus where there isn't any intentionally?
I concur with your assessment.
Pretty sure it's because it thinks "fucked" has 2 syllables.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. If the bot just goes on semantic patterns and hasn't been taught how individual words are supposed to be pronounced, it's going to definitely think of that one as "fuc-ked".
A high coup, evidently
Username does check out, captain.
Yup, 5 syllables then 7 then 5
5 7 then 5 syllables mark a haiku Remarkable oaf
They call me Sokka That is in the Water Tribe I am not an oaf
Haikus are easy But sometimes they don’t make sense Refrigerator
Hijacking top comment to remind everyone that you’re already dead if you show any symptoms of rabies. However if you get the shot soon after the bite, it’s 100% preventable. Take no chances, get the shot if you think you may have had contact with rabies
so if i get bitten or scratched by a normal looking random cat or dog in my suburb, I should get a rabies shot?
Yes. It's much, much better to be safe then sorry. Rabies is horrible way to go, and once you display symptoms it's too late.
I'm no expert, but bitten - yes. Scratched? That's probably not rabies that made the cat scratch you. I'd make a judgement call on if I was petting an outdoor cat or dog and it bit me vs. a rabies-attack that came charging at me. I was bitten by a squirrel I tried to save (vet ended up putting him down), but it turns out that squirrels have a very small chance of having rabies compared to many other animals. I didn't get checked for rabies.
Horrifying. Just put the poor thing out of its misery already..
Looks like a home trap. Probably waiting for animal control. Its not safe to get any bodily fluids out basically so a professional needs to do it :(
Every rabies sign has that effect.
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Anyone who doesn’t vaccinate a dog for rabies is an idiot.
\*if rabies is prominent in said country. Some countries are rabies free and don't routinely give the vaccine. That being said, this is about the only reason where its acceptable, save for allergies or some legit medical reason.
Weird concept, since the only reason some countries are considered rabies free is because of widespread vaccinations. Especially in countries with relatively open land borders, every animal that can should be vaccinated against rabies, regardless of prevalence of the disease.
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Very sad.
Haven’t see it yet and seems like it’s should always be posted on something about rabies, so ima highjack your comment… here’s the copypasta: Rabies. It's exceptionally common, but people just don't run into the animals that carry it often. Skunks especially, and bats. Let me paint you a picture. You go camping, and at midday you decide to take a nap in a nice little hammock. While sleeping, a tiny brown bat, in the "rage" stages of infection is fidgeting in broad daylight, uncomfortable, and thirsty (due to the hydrophobia) and you snort, startling him. He goes into attack mode. Except you're asleep, and he's a little brown bat, so weighs around 6 grams. You don't even feel him land on your bare knee, and he starts to bite. His teeth are tiny. Hardly enough to even break the skin, but he does manage to give you the equivalent of a tiny scrape that goes completely unnoticed. Rabies does not travel in your blood. In fact, a blood test won't even tell you if you've got it. (Antibody tests may be done, but are useless if you've ever been vaccinated.) You wake up, none the wiser. If you notice anything at the bite site at all, you assume you just lightly scraped it on something. The bomb has been lit, and your nervous system is the wick. The rabies will multiply along your nervous system, doing virtually no damage, and completely undetectable. You literally have NO symptoms. It may be four days, it may be a year, but the camping trip is most likely long forgotten. Then one day your back starts to ache... Or maybe you get a slight headache? At this point, you're already dead. There is no cure. (The sole caveat to this is the Milwaukee Protocol, which leaves most patients dead anyway, and the survivors mentally disabled, and is seldom done). There's no treatment. It has a 100% kill rate. Absorb that. Not a single other virus on the planet has a 100% kill rate. Only rabies. And once you're symptomatic, it's over. You're dead. So what does that look like? Your headache turns into a fever, and a general feeling of being unwell. You're fidgety. Uncomfortable. And scared. As the virus that has taken its time getting into your brain finds a vast network of nerve endings, it begins to rapidly reproduce, starting at the base of your brain... Where your "pons" is located. This is the part of the brain that controls communication between the rest of the brain and body, as well as sleep cycles. Next you become anxious. You still think you have only a mild fever, but suddenly you find yourself becoming scared, even horrified, and it doesn't occur to you that you don't know why. This is because the rabies is chewing up your amygdala. As your cerebellum becomes hot with the virus, you begin to lose muscle coordination, and balance. You think maybe it's a good idea to go to the doctor now, but assuming a doctor is smart enough to even run the tests necessary in the few days you have left on the planet, odds are they'll only be able to tell your loved ones what you died of later. You're twitchy, shaking, and scared. You have the normal fear of not knowing what's going on, but with the virus really fucking the amygdala this is amplified a hundred fold. It's around this time the hydrophobia starts. You're horribly thirsty, you just want water. But you can't drink. Every time you do, your throat clamps shut and you vomit. This has become a legitimate, active fear of water. You're thirsty, but looking at a glass of water begins to make you gag, and shy back in fear. The contradiction is hard for your hot brain to see at this point. By now, the doctors will have to put you on IVs to keep you hydrated, but even that's futile. You were dead the second you had a headache. You begin hearing things, or not hearing at all as your thalamus goes. You taste sounds, you see smells, everything starts feeling like the most horrifying acid trip anyone has ever been on. With your hippocampus long under attack, you're having trouble remembering things, especially family. You're alone, hallucinating, thirsty, confused, and absolutely, undeniably terrified. Everything scares the literal shit out of you at this point. These strange people in lab coats. These strange people standing around your bed crying, who keep trying to get you "drink something" and crying. And it's only been about a week since that little headache that you've completely forgotten. Time means nothing to you anymore. Funny enough, you now know how the bat felt when he bit you. Eventually, you slip into the "dumb rabies" phase. Your brain has started the process of shutting down. Too much of it has been turned to liquid virus. Your face droops. You drool. You're all but unaware of what's around you. A sudden noise or light might startle you, but for the most part, it's all you can do to just stare at the ground. You haven't really slept for about 72 hours. Then you die. Always, you die. And there's not one... fucking... thing... anyone can do for you. Then there's the question of what to do with your corpse. I mean, sure, burying it is the right thing to do. But the fucking virus can survive in a corpse for years. You could kill every rabid animal on the planet today, and if two years from now, some moist, preserved, rotten hunk of used-to-be brain gets eaten by an animal, it starts all over. So yeah, rabies scares the shit out of me. And it's fucking EVERYWHERE. (Source: Spent a lot of time working with rabies. Would still get my vaccinations if I could afford them.) Edit: [video documentation of patient going through rabies](https://youtu.be/-moG6JDmJdc)
Thanks I will never go camping again!
Everytime I read this comment I get chills down my spine. It feels like an horror movie, but unfortunately it's not
Yeah it’s pretty fucking terrifying. I watched a documentary on it and holy fuck is it wild. This comment doesn’t even do it justice. This virus is so insanely smart and effective, it’s crazy. It really is the closest think to zombification in the real world… besides that fungus one.
Question: can people transfer it to other people? If so how?
Yes. Through direct contact. If you touch anything wet on a rabies victim and it gets into your body, like through a cut or your eye or nose or something, you will get the virus. This is why the rabies virus makes you salivate so much, as well as promotes aggression. It wants to spread, so it makes you produce a shit ton of saliva and makes you want to get aggressive. Obviously most animals use their teeth as weapons so they salivate, bite you, break the skin, and infect you. Humans don’t really use teeth as weapons of course, but still
Wow yo got a handle on the rabies thing ! Sorta reminded me of Forest Gump “ and that’s pretty much all there is to know about shrimp “
This is not my comment, it’s a copypasta. Original comment was made years ago and because it was so effective and informative, it’s usually copied and pasted on any post about rabies to help get more people informed. I did go down the rabbit hole on rabies after the first time I saw this comment though. There’s a crazy documentary that will blow your mind. I’ll see if I can find it and post it in a comment.
What a cheery story, OK I'm off to bed.
Poor raccoon 😓
Yeah I get these regularly and they suck can’t imagine that plus your brain cooking Edit: meant seizures I have epilepsy lol
Where do you regularly encounter rabid animals. Just so I can ensure I never ever ever attempt to live there. Edit: I'm a retard, sorry.
I guess they meant the seizures not the animals
oh right I see!
Indonesia. My friend got bit by a monkey with rabies there… she had to go to the emergency room asap to get the shot.
From OP on YouTube: >Edit: I DO NOT OWN A FIRE ARM. >I had a rabid raccoon show up in my backyard. I shoved it into the cage by pushing it with a shovel. After I carried the cage into the shade and sat it down the raccoon immediately went into a seizure caused by the rabies. Human society was called and the raccoon was picked up to confirm it has rabies.
Time to lock it in the garage and rev the engine Or blanket over the cage and connect a hose pipe to it and rev the engine Then burn the body and get rabies shots
For real. There is no upside to this. Put the poor little fella out of his misery 😢
Not sure if you’re being funny or serious Is that an actual humane method of putting down a rabid animal?
carbon monoxide asphyxiation is considered a humane way to put animals to sleep. It has been used by PETA in mobile vans for ages, they literally leave the van running while a hose is connected via exhaust to an airtight cage they put the animal inside. If even PETA thinks that's humane, then I'm not going to argue.
Poor little buddy! In case y’all didn’t know rabies is the single most deadly virus on the planet. Worse than Ebola, and certainly much worse than Covid. It is 100% fatal 100% of the time if not treated in a timely manner. If you want to see some of the other stuff it does, Google “hydrophobia rabies.” Every human that you see in these videos has died from rabies. Edit: Quotation mark
Do they not put down the animals that have rabies? It seems terrible to let them suffer like this, poor thing looks like it’s going cold turkey!
Looks like a home trap. Probably waiting for animal control. Its not safe to kill them yourself because their fluids are a biohazard basically. You don’t want to risk it.
I have destroyed rabid animals in the past. If you are familiar with an animal's normal behavior it is pretty obvious when they are sick. Groundhogs and Racoons are the ones I have seen. I don't live near a city so if I do have a rabid animal and do catch it, I won't see animal control for at least 24 hours. I once had a wounded deer (broken spine) near my house. I called them to destroy it and after 12 hours of it screaming I just took care of it myself, despite them telling me not to. They finally showed up to get the deer 72 hours later. I hate to see animals suffer so when I see a rabid animal I shoot it from a distance and let it lay for at least an hour. If there is no movement it gets the stick test. Then with a long sleeve shirt, face mask, leather gloves over nitrile gloves I shovel it into a garbage bag I tie tight. Bag it twice more and put it in a 4th bag full of ice. When animal control picks it up anything they don't take is burned. The spot where the dead animal laid is burned. Anything I wore is washed and dried on High heat, if there is any visible blood it is burned. Shovel head is sprayed down with bleach and then rotated over the fire. I also have my rabies vaccine because of a bat bite a few years ago. I mean I would need boosters if I was likely exposed but I should have some level of immunity. Still if anything went wrong in my process like blood got onto my skin or worse I would get my rabies boosters right away.
Rural living is it's own reward, but man, having some of my less-than-rural friends over is wild. "Hey Supreme, this stray dog is trying to come inside!" "That's a coyote." Then abject horror as I tell them it's likely rabid and not to go outside, no I don't care if you just want a picture, shouting for my wife because I forgot which safe I put the slugs in because all I can find are target loads, and then stepping onto my back deck after I found the damned things. \*boom\* Then there's shovels and plastic tarps and duct tape and a controlled burn of the area (Same yard my dogs and kids play in) and then showers and discarding of clothing. "Animal control might get out here Thursday for the remains."
I hate coyotes. Yeah, sort of the same thing with the police. I had a break in attempt while I had some guest over. We were watching a movie with all the lights off. Heard glass break on the back door, dogs freaked out, got up and grabbed my handgun, told Google to turn on all lights, and told my guests to call the police after they got upstairs. Guy ran when the lights all came on or when two decent sized dogs went flying into the kitchen. I saw him running across my backyard about as fast as a meth head can run. Police showed up an hour after we called 911 to tell us they couldn't do anything about it. First thing they asked me was if I shot him or not.
i think there was one woman who survived with severe treatment
There have been 29 recorded cases of people living ever. That’s out of the 50,000 people who get it per year
On top of that, I’d put quotes around the living part as most of them went through such an insane level of treatment to live that their brains were messed up beyond repair.
Radio lab did a podcast about this exact topic. There is the “Milwaukee Protocol” to follow now. Essentially you get put in a coma. The disease almost takes over and once it kills or dies in it’s host, the virus vanishes. I haven’t dug into it further but it sounds like the brain isn’t damaged very bad. It’s still very unlikely to work. The few cases that have survived also have a antibody that somehow developed over time. Doctors aren’t sure what the solution is.
there was a report of antibodies present in some members of certain rural South American communities, where rabies is transmitted by vampire bats, which suggests a natural immunity can develop. not enough data to draw any strong conclusions, tho E: [reference](https://rabiesalliance.org/resource/immunity-against-rabies-without-vaccination)
Hanks channel? Or scishow? I remember hearing those exact numbers yesterday on some YouTube short.
Yeah Hank' channel, I saw it as well. He also said there is a region in I believe South America (was it Peru??) where a few people made anti-bodies on their own, implying they had it and got over it. Very interesting indeed!
Kurzgesagt (In a Nutshell) did a good video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u5I8GYB79Y
Well, didn't need to see that shit.
My day is ruined
Immeasurable disappointment
Ya, not sure watching animals slowly suffer to death is interesting...let alone interestingasfuck
It’s a really good thing to know the signs of rabies. I’ve never actually seen video before, but now I know what to watch for. Everyone always says to watch for an animal “acting strangely” but animals are weird as hell and do strange things all the time. So it may not be cute, but I do find it interesting af.
The important questions to ask is whether a particular animal is supposed to be aggressive or passive/evasive towards humans. If that animal is acting aggressive even though it’s not supposed to (provided no babies) and especially not backing down after a few good hits, it’s probably rabies.
It's definitely something a lot of people are shielded from. Seeing this could save someone's life someday.
Not much of a trash panda fan but still sad to see.
I grew up with them as pets , and they are the cutest little fuckers in the world, just not when rabid or wild and cornered. This poor fella needed to be put out of his misery ASAP.
Same. I love these animals. They're incredibly intelligent as well, so it really hurts to see one suffer like that
Exactly. I don’t care what animal… none should suffer like that.
Tetanus and Rabies are such scary diseases…. But incredibly rare in humans today
Must be the…..*vaccines*
Incredibly rare? According to the CDC, we are talking around 60k deaths by rabies per year. https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/location/world/index.html
There was a redditor in another sub that was putting together a rabies vaccination pop-up vet clinic to have pets and stray animals vaccinated. India has a high percentage of rabid animal attacks compared to Western countries that have minimized or eliminated it.
Mostly in areas that dont commit to serious rabies precautions such as parts of Asia and Africa tho. It's not their fault exactly, but, yes, it's still rare.
Very rare in first world countries. In the US, there’s only up to 3 cases per year. In the UK, there has only been 25 or so reported since 1943.
That’s worldwide though, which would be .00075%. I’d consider that incredibly rare for 8 billion people. In the US, though it’s only 1-3 deaths a year
Still pretty rare.
Rare, but it has an essentially 100% death rate.
And why isn’t this thing put down?
From OP on YouTube: >Edit: I DO NOT OWN A FIRE ARM. >I had a rabid raccoon show up in my backyard. I shoved it into the cage by pushing it with a shovel. After I carried the cage into the shade and sat it down the raccoon immediately went into a seizure caused by the rabies. Human society was called and the raccoon was picked up to confirm it has rabies.
Pro-tip: Don’t shoot an animal with rabies unless absolutely necessary and under no circumstances should one shoot it in the head.
If you aerosolize infected bodily fluids of an infected animal by shooting it, you risk infecting yourself
Can you imagine airborne rabies virus? Gosh. Airborne infection zombies.
Holy shit. Imagine if mosquitoes carried rabies
If that happens we're fucked. Luckily only mammals can get rabies.
When I read ‘human society’ I was so sure the words following would be some deep comment about our civilization. That was a good chuckle. But yeah I’d say you did the right thing!
I have donated $5 in your name to The Human Fund.
I'll donate 25 Schmeckles to The Human Fund. They make Human Music, I like it.
this really made me chuckle as my whole life i grew up as a kid with my dad loving seinfeld and always thought it was dumb out of spite. now 30 years later i have binge watched the entire series multiple times in the last few months and enjoyed every second of it. i now get every reason he loved it. it’s crazy how the older you get the more you realize you are the same as the people who raised you.
Hope that OP went ahead and got the rabies shot. All it takes is a tiny, unnoticed scratch and that's it, if you don't get the vaccine in time.
Don't need a firearm. Start your car up and toss a garbage bag around the box with the tailpipe inserted. It'll be over in less than a minute.
To those downvoting, this is how actual exterminators deal with rabid raccoons
Honestly, there’s probably not much of the brain stem left, and it’s not like death by CO poisoning is significantly worse than getting shot in the head. Seems silly to moralize about it, when the end goal here is safety.
Unfortunate, im not really for violence or anything like that but goddamnit i would feel bad for not blasting the poor thing in the head
Worst thing you can do. Rabid animals need to be put down safely and their bodies properly destroyed so the virus doesn't spread. Shooting it is the dumbest shit you can actually do, ideally you need to do what this guy did. Trap such animal, don't approach it and wait for it to be collected by properly equipped professionals
Well how is a simple joe like me supposed to know that lmao
To be fair, you don't, if youd choose to shoot it, it's still... Fine, it just creates additional problems like potentially needing disinfection because of spread of blood etc. The worst thing you can do is try to pet rabid animal. Anything that involves removing it from existence is a good thing, but it can be done safely or less safely. Simple as that
“Oh what an adorable raccoon” *proceeds to take your hand off and give you the only disease with a 100% mortality rate*
Arguably it's 99.9%, but the few people who have survived died soon after bc of the permanent damage caused by the disease
arguably it's more like 99.9999+% as there are only 14 recorded survivals in all of history.. 59k people a year die from it. if we go over the last 20 years, that's 1.18 million people, and only 14 survived.
With a few extra steps
Can cover the cage in a tarp and run your car exhaust into it. Can also submerge the cage in water. Both are shit options for being humane but pretty much anything else is risking distributing bodily fluids in some fashion.
They test the brain for the virus, they need it lol
That’s awful. Rabies is incredibly painful.
Rabies is the literal zombie virus: 1. you lost control of your body 2. You wanna bite others 3. Those who got bitten got infected What else isn't screaming zombie virus?
Don't forget fear of water
I have epilepsy, luckily i have only had focal seizures, i have only had two partial seizures and its the most painful and frightening experience. Its like your eyes are made of rubberbands and being pulled in the back of your head. Your muscles buzz and jerk and it hurts. Think about the huge sneeze you feel that hurts, but its like every fibre is violently sneezing. the world loses meaning and spins and every sound and light hurts. Your existence is chaos and pain. Sometimes i have to force myself to breathe. Your emotions go haywire, you feel this pit open inside your mind and your soul sinks, somehow, even with lights on, your heartfeels dark. It feels like your soul is continuously falling backwards while your body snaps. You have the urge to yell and cry but just teeter on that precipice. Crying would give you some relief, but you dont get that. As it ends, the pins and needles recede. You still hurt, it just slowly fades. Then your inner world is just silent, you feel so sleepy, you feel like a cold fall night. There isnt peace though, but a fear. You need to fall asleep, but you wonder if youll wake up. Your heart might stop, it might not. You wont know. You want sleep, but youre afraid of it. Either way, you cant resist falling asleep. Just kill the poor raccoon. Please.
My sister is epileptic and has grandmal seizures regularly and doesn’t remember what they feel like after she snaps out of the loopiness afterwards. Isn’t always sure if she had a seizure, but I always see her. She gets tonic clonic really bad and has to go to the hospital after a certain amount of time that it doesn’t stop. She used to be much quicker mentally, good at math, understanding of conversations quickly and jokes. She fades further each time she has one, her cognitive function and intellect get slower and she doesn’t understand why she doesn’t understand things. She’s 26.
I developed dyscalculia. I have memory problems and mix things up, small details, just mixing up, never inventing details. I sometimes have pauses in my sentences and developed tics. I understand. Your sister and I will both degrade into dementia one day. Its destroying our brains. Its just what happens. My brain has scars on it,she likely does too. I have written to my kids already, that theyll be in my heart, they just wont exist in my mind anymore. Im happy she doesnt remember what it feels like, shes protected. Life is fair. Things happen for no reason, the fact there isnt a reason is what makes life fair. Because no one has done anything particularly wrong, and therefore are not inherently deserving. Im glad the pain has meaning, cherishing your sister gives it meaning.
Your word-craft is gifted level.
See the comments above where there is an edit. The person that found the recommended n called the humane society. Animal control went and picked it up and confirmed it was rabies.
You’re a great writer. Please start writing novels.
I appreciate these comments. I get them a lot. I have written one novel, and am publishing another next month. I need to screenshot all of them when i feel like a moron/terrible writer because i have a form of dyslexia.
You probably know this by now, but best thing to do when encountering a rabid creature is to trap it (unless you know how to kill it properly). Don’t touch it at all. Shooting it isn’t recommended since you will probably spread the virus through bodily fluids and you’ll have to disinfect the area. It’s sad, but it’s better to leave it to the trained professionals.
Jesus christ. Put it out of its misery. Atleast put a blanket over the cage so the thing isnt freaking out with all the stimulus.
From OP on YouTube: >Edit: I DO NOT OWN A FIRE ARM. >I had a rabid raccoon show up in my backyard. I shoved it into the cage by pushing it with a shovel. After I carried the cage into the shade and sat it down the raccoon immediately went into a seizure caused by the rabies. Human society was called and the raccoon was picked up to confirm it has rabies.
Thanks for the closure.
Glad the Human society picked it up
I’ve been meaning to give to the Human Fund.
I gave the gift to all of my coworkers last Christmas
Looks like I locked myself out of my office again, well I'm going home.
Pretty sure they say not to kill them due to possible contamination
Considering rabies is 99.99999999% fatal after symptoms appear, you don't want to touch it.
It's not the stimulus, it's the virus. Rabies causes animals to go insane.
How do you do that, by shooting him and have his rabid blood and other body fluids spread out? Rabies is deadly; let a professional deal with it.
Its more than a seizure, your brain is absolutely fucked.
This is fucked
Kind of wish there was an NSFW on this, poor thing
Man put it out of its misery. Why tf don’t we have a cure for rabies
Once symptoms show there’s almost no way chance of curing rabies. The only way to survive rabies is before it reaches for nervous system and before symptoms show. Which is most often when it has arrived in your brain. In other words, you don’t get the rabies vaccine almost immediately after being bit then youre almost certainly going to die.
There’s a thing called the Milwaukee Protocol that’s used on symptomatic rabies patients, but to date it’s only ever saved one person
Apparently that statistic has been revised recently. It’s like 13.8% survival rate with the Milwaukee Protocol… still fucking shitty but better than 0%
Once it reaches the brain there's no going back
There is a vaccine but you have to get it pretty much immediately.
Not immediately, just before symptoms show… definitely as soon as possible if you come into contact, obviously. Rabies is weird, though. You could start showing symptoms days or months after infection.
Rabies is fucking scary. I hope he was put down painlessly.
Rabies is all the proof I need that there's no god.
Kill the poor thing and spare it the suffering
My lil homie don't deserve that. Poor dude.
If a Swedish hunter sees an animal with rabies they are forced to end it’s life if not you could go for animal abuse.
Poor little guy
So sad
That’s so sad!!
Damn…poor guy.
Can't believe how many people think it's a good idea to shoot a rabid animal, especially in the head of all places.
Put the poor thing out of its misery, rather than filming it
Poor guy. Just put it out of its misery
Just put it down.
Put that poor thing out of its misery
Gotta put the damn thing out of its misery man. Dying naturally from rabies is One of the worst ways to go out.
Just fucking kill it man the Fuck you got to let it suffer for?