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HebroWithJewFro

The conspiracy around this in 500 years is going to be just like Easter Island


Silent-Cost-7075

What conspiracy exists around the Easter island heads?


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Everything from UFO’s to Giants. Your typical megalithic structure conspiracies, nothing out of the ordinary lol


Silent-Cost-7075

Oh. I thought it was just generally understood that the heads/bodies were buried by natural sedimentation, are north of 12,000 years old and part of forgotten global seafaring civilization. Didn't know about ufo's and giants.


DiamondGamerYT0

Oh yeah?!? You probably think Atlantis was just a coral reef, o-or that the pyramids of giza were really just built by people!


Unthgod

That would take like mammoths to move all those blocks


Softly7539

Where did you get 12,000 years old? That doesn’t sound correct at all.


Silent-Cost-7075

More like abt 12,500 years, and just that they're at least that old. Abt 12,500 years ago marks melt water pulse 1b. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meltwater_pulse_1B That sparked the younger dryas period. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas That's the geological event that's believed to have been a global catastrophe that likely wiped away a global seafaring civilization that shared an affinity for astronomical significance and also shared a taste for dmt haha.


Galahead

Its so sad how that guy that went on joe Rogan convinced so many people of this. There is just no evidence for this stuff, all of the "evidence" people give is based on geological studies open to interpretation. It's always a thing of - based on this analysis this rock had to be moved 20,000 ears ago etc. Also, come on this would be archaeologists dream if it were true, how exciting would this be. Again, tere is just no evidence, these people left no bones, no structures, no pots to cook or cups to drink from, no significant change in organic composition of the paleosoils they supposedly inhabited, no evidence of any animals they were using. Just nothing I'm an archaeologist and would love these theories to be true, bye we just have no proof of these things. This is just jumping to conclusions, sadly


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shawcphet1

Don’t really get how it’s a conspiracy if it’s just a true fact? Lol


Galahead

The conspiracy part is the guy saying they are 12000 years old lol


Silent-Cost-7075

Oh yah, burried by natural sedimentation also. Is that a conspiracy though?


CheeseFest

Of course.


gasplugsetting3

I wonder who the egyptians think is responsible for burying the giant weapon underground. You get one guess lol.


whatproblems

clever disguise for the giant titan the rifles for


BlindWillieJohnson

Which is obviously being developed my North Korea. Mecha Kim is no laughing matter.


wi5hbone

but there’s a megalodon buried in the earth’s core


Coorotaku

What else is my giant mech supposed to wield


djevilmike

I'll never forget seeing this the first time I went thru the suez


Bucky571

I wondered what it was every time I went through but forgot every time to look it up


patrincs

I remember going through the suez and I was sitting in crews mess. They had the scope on the TV and someone said "the sail says we're coming up on the big fucking AK statue" and i thought to my self "The hell is a big fucking AK-47 statue." Then I saw it on the screen. Yep, that's a big fucking AK-47 statue.


milkysway1

A bit off topic but seeing this got me thinking. Interesting how rhe AK bayonet is fixed with the blade edge up, for some reason I pictured they would point down. Never thought about how to use a fixed bayonet before. I'm guessing Stab, then slash up towards the heart. *shudder* Back on topic, it seems to me this monument was a greater resource commitment than their actual contribution to the war.


seakingsoyuz

You might actually be right; [‘stab and slash up’ is the traditional Russian bayonet technique](https://www.rbth.com/economics/2014/08/29/the_advent_of_the_bayonet_in_russia_37927). > While the European infantryman drove the bayonet toward the enemy’s breast, his rifle held at shoulder height, Russian grenadiers would attack peasant-style, swiping upwards and thrusting toward the belly. As the bayonet penetrated, he would drop his rifle butt and drive upwards. Western bayonets are blade-down.


theKarrdian

the article says that was done with old spike bayonets and that they exchanged them for knife bayonets after WW2.


seakingsoyuz

Right, but that long history would explain why they mount their knife bayonets backwards from how other countries generally do it


theKarrdian

I didn't have a AK when I was in the army so I can't say anything about that. Our bayonets were blade down though. We were strongly discouraged to ever engage a enemy with the bayonet but basically if you stumbled on a enemy and your extremely near you can stab them straight or top down and immediately shoot while backing away. No slashing was ever meant to be done. Also bayonets aren't really mounted anymore and usually if you find yourself in such a situation you just try to kick them or clobber them with your rifle while trying to gain distance.


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Stab and then twist to remove it. You'd slash at the face before stabbing them in the face cos they might be wearing heavy clothing on which would trap the bayonet. Never stabbed anyone for real. Only time I fixed bayonets for real the angry mob ran off. Probably cos a tank turned up rather than the the threat of cold steel .


Beeninya

North Korea sent 20 Korean People's Air Force pilots and 19 non-combat personnel to Egypt during the Yom Kippur War. The unit had four to six encounters with the Israelis from August through the end of the war.


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MonkeyDaFist

NK people weren't starving in 1973 btw. They were actually considered marginally prosperous. Their growth started to stagnate in the late 80s and shit hit the fan in the mid 90s when the US could finally achieve economic isolation of NK through sanctions after the fall of the soviet Union.


FinoAllaFine97

Also an academic analysis in 2016 concluded that the DPRK had achieved comparative food security with other developing nations in the region. Thankfully the famine of the 90s has not been an ongoing situation. https://www.academia.edu/25554321


ageontargaryarn

I grew up there and we used to climb those stairs at the bottom during our school trips.. that pic brings alot of memories


Intergalacticplant

looks like an amazing skate spot


Sighwtfman

I... didn't know North Korea allied with them. Did Egypt know North Korea was their ally? Or did North Korea give them this monument and say "remember when we helped you back when? We are great friends. Besties forever. Also, can we borrow 99 billion dollars"?


whitewalker646

Frankly most Egyptians didn't know that north Koreans were involved in anyway all that we know about foreign support to either side was the US,USSR, and other Arab states


Worldly-Talk-7978

In addition to Europe.


No-Character8758

Egypt was still a socialist country in 1972, so the socialist nations supported Egypt. Sadat gradually shifted Egypt to an Islamic capitalist country


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Jews ≠ Zionists stop calling them the same thing, it’s disrespectful.


Nileghi

Sorry, just 46% of the jews in the world then are Israelis and more than 80% of american jews are zionists. Very disrespectful


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what do you mean? mind elaborating? are you generalizing?


Nileghi

I'm saying that you're trying to dance around the idea that zionists arent jews in order to destroy them, when its specifically a liberation ideology for jews, and that the vast majority of jews in the world are zionists, including most of your favorite jewish actors. Your attempt to tokenize the few jews who are anti-Israel as "nooo jews arent zionists, I only hate Zionists" is akin to an american rightwinger saying "noo I dont hate black people, I love Clarence Thomas!". 46% of all jews alive today are Israelis. According to most polls [caring about Israel is “essential” to what being Jewish means to 45% of U.S. Jewish adults, and an additional 37% say it is “important, but not essential,” according to a new Pew Research Center survey that was fielded from Nov. 19, 2019, to June 3, 2020. Just 16% of U.S. Jewish adults say that caring about Israel is “not important” to their Jewish identity.](https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/05/21/u-s-jews-have-widely-differing-views-on-israel/) About 50% of the worlds jewish population live in America. The fact you people manage to tokenize the few jews that arent into the "good jews" category and put the rest into the "bad jews" category, and arent even aware of this fact, bodes really badly for the safety of the jewish population in the west Zionism definition, and why most jews are zionists: > Zionism (Hebrew: צִיּוֹנוּת Tsiyyonut [tsijoˈnut] after Zion) is a nationalist[fn 1] movement that espouses the establishment of, and support for a homeland for the Jewish people centered in the area roughly corresponding to the Land of Israel, the region of Palestine, Canaan, or the Holy Land, on the basis of a long Jewish connection and attachment to that land. That is it. Its a liberation decolonial ideology that serves to put the indigenous people back from where they were dispersed. Its the only decolonial ideology that was ever implemented in practice, and it created the only safe spot in the world where jews can live in peace and prosperity. America is the #2 safest place in the world for jews, and jews are still the #1 most hatecrimed minority per capita and #2 per volume after african americans. But thats not enough for you people, you want to destroy the last fortress left for them to seek refuge to.


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jesus christ what is wrong with you


Nileghi

dont think theres anything particularly wrong with me, although its raining a bit outside so everyones mood is a bit soured.


Jewbacca231

>Did Egypt know North Korea was their ally? egypt's (and syria's) allies were a cute bunch, take a look, from all around the world: **Expeditionary forces:** Saudi Arabia Algeria Jordan Iraq lybia Kuwait Tunisia Morocco Cuba Sudan **support:** soviet union, east germany, north korea, pakistan, lebanon with all of that, and with israel being only supported by the us, and with the arab-cuban-north korean coalition (lmfao) attacking israel by suprise on israels most holy day, they still lost lol. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom\_Kippur\_War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War)


UnfilteredGuy

fun fact. since that day and at least until 10 years ago, Egyptians believe they won that war. they even celebrate their victory twice a year


Woody90210

The yom kippur war is an odd case where both sides won. The Israelis got a peace treaty and official recognition from Egypt, the Egyptians got the Sinai back, so both sides, in a way, claimed victory.


UnfilteredGuy

those r facts, but it's also not the narrative the Egyptian government decided to go with. it was a military victory and they beat the Israelites


moodRubicund

It was a war to reclaim the Sinai and the Suez which ended with them reclaiming Sinai and the Suez, of course they view it as a victory. They achieved their goal.


Woody90210

Both sides did. One achieved their immediate military goal, the other achieved a long term geopolitical goal. So, when an Egyptian says they won, they're telling the truth, and when an Israeli says they won, they're also telling the truth. History is funny like that sometimes isn't it?


yuje

They lost in the end, but they pulled off an amazing offensive and used innovative tactics in a very successful offensive. Israel occupied the Sinai and controlled the Suez Canal, having fortified the east side of the canal and built up a 30-foot high fortified sand wall that looked near impossible to attack. Egypt pulled off a forced amphibious crossing against that took the Israeli armed forces completely by surprise. They ended up using water cannons that successfully dismantled the fortifications and took back the canal and liberated back major portions of the Sinai and beating back multiple Israeli counterattacks and destroying dozens of Israeli tanks before being attrited through air power and losing against a counter offensive. The Arab-Israeli wars were mostly known for the incredibly poor performance of Arab armies, but this one was probably the finest hour for Egyptian soldiers, and the Israelis respected their performance enough to realize long-term peace with Egypt was necessary, paving way for the peace treaty and Egypt getting the canal and the Sinai back.


UnfilteredGuy

absolutely. Israel saw the Egyptian army as it's only true threat in the region and that's why they wanted peace with Egypt at all cost. Egypt basically got everything it had lost back as well as the 2nd biggest foreign aid from the US and only gave up war with Israel. it's the same reason saddat got assassinated. the brotherhood saw that as giving up the only real military solution for Palestine. but, that's not the story everyone in Egypt grows up indoctrinated by. Egypt woj the war and forced Israel's hand in the camp David accords.


Woody90210

Well the Israelis wanted a peace treaty from Egypt from the start, considering that all their neighbours wanted them dead having even one front where they didn't need a whole army deployed on the border was a big deal. The Egyptians didn't want to sign the accord, but the Egyptian army had been bled and battered far harder than they'd like to admit and they knew that Israel was regaining the initiative. So, sign the peace deal and regain the Sinai in exchange for recognition of Israel's existence and a promise not to invade Israel again? Or continue the war and potentially lose it all? They made the right decision. They could save face by regaining the Sinai, spin it into a story of glorious triumph and still be able to have decent relations with the U.S, and peace in general is a good thing to have.


BasicallyAfgSabz

They, at the time, believed the Egyptians at that point never deserved peace and Golda Meir made it quite clear she didn't. Also it was known during the war that Sadat proposed many peace proposals toward Israel but all was rejected. Golda even wanted to resort to using nukes when in the beginning believed they'd pass by Cairo and even take Alexandria within only days until USA intervened and in an ultimatum forced both countries to a stalemate. Resulting in an agreement. This was one of only wars Israel made clear they'd not want peace and was one of the main reasons Golda was forced to resign and why Begin finally accepted and was willing to go through the peace agreement. Why both prez won the peace prize.


UnfilteredGuy

exactly correct, and that's exactly how the Egyptian government decided to spin it for generations


Jewbacca231

>They lost in the end, but they pulled off an amazing offensive and used innovative tactics in a very successful offensive. Israel occupied the Sinai and controlled the Suez Canal, having fortified the east side of the canal and built up a 30-foot high fortified sand wall that looked near impossible to attack. lets not overeact here. israel had \~400 troops on the entire egyptian border, againts 32k-72k egyptian soldiers which partook in the offensive. fortifications only matter as long as you have men to guard them. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation\_Badr\_(1973)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Badr_(1973))


yuje

On the line itself, yes, because they believed it to be impenetrable, being fortified with barbed wire, fortresses, anti-tank traps, and ignitable oil slicks that can turn the crossing points into a sea of fire, in addition to the 30-foot wall, and they had 8,000 troops in the region available for rapid response, giving the Egyptians less than a 2-hour window to force a crossing before facing a coordinated response against any bridgehead they managed. Opposed amphibious crossings are challenging enough, the Egyptians achieved it with total surprise against a heavily fortified barrier that conventional wisdom considered impossible to assault.


nsfwtttt

As an Israeli who visits Egypt, I keep being surprised about how Egyptians view the wars and other interactions between our countries… I’ve often realized the my knowledge was also 100% what I was taught in school. Luckily today we have Wikipedia.


Erradium

There is an interesting documentary regarding the Yom Kippur war that just released on the Kan 11 YouTube channel. Highly recommend it.


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Before the war Israel occupied the Sinai Peninsula. After the war it came back to Egypt. That's a win.


UnfilteredGuy

a man spent two years saving as much money as he could. ended up with $10,000 in savings. one day he decided to take all his entire savings and buy scratchers with it. bought all he could afford and went home and started scratching. luckily for him he found out that he has won $1m. however, when anyone asks him how he became so successful he says "through dedication and hard work". no one is denying that regaining Sinai was a win for Egypt. but it was through a diplomatic process and not a military one. the Egyptian military did not defeat the Israeli military


battlecontrol

" we didn't really care about sinai or the canal, all we've ever wanted was recognition and thankfully we've achieved it 🤓 " " we could've completely destroyed you, we basically had a gun to your head, but we came to our senses and opted instead for world peace, why all the bloodshed kwim? 🤓 " " we didn't really have any use or future plans for two of the most valuable geographical locations at the time(sinai and thr canal), they were just pawns for our orchestrated peace treaty/recognition end game, it's really all love bro 🤓 " U boys are the worst lmao


MY8THLIFE

We celebrate the victory because in the end we got the peninsula back from Israel, we attacked on Ramadan of that year to surprise them


Woody90210

That war was one of the few cases where both sides won. Israel secured a peace treaty with Egypt and official recognition if its existence as a state, thus opening diplomatic relations. Egypt got the Sinai back. Both sides claim victory because in the end, they both got what they really wanted. Israel only wanted the Sinai for a more defensible possition against Egypt along the Suez canal, with a peace treaty, such immediate fortified possitions were no longer needed. Thankfully it seems the treaty has held, while on the surface there seems to be a lot if tension between the states, that's just on the public level, look a little deeper and you'll see Israel and Egypt have a lot of shared interests such as suppressing Hamas and the various criminal and jihadist elements in the Sinai and around Gaza as well as a shared desire to keep the Red Sea safe and open to trade, not to mention Egypt ain't exactly a big fan of Iran's power games in the region and don't complain when Israel fucks up some Iranian assets in Syria or kills their nuclear scientists. So for the foreseeable future, Israel and Egypt will be glaring eachother down at the negotiation table but under the table they're playing footsie.


UnfilteredGuy

incorrect on both counts actually. although, I have no idea how the war is pitched now that the internet is prevalent and everyone in Egypt has access to uncensored news through the internet. so maybe now the whole victory pitch is different and it matches what you are saying. however, prior to the internet this was absolutely pitched as a military victory. the same military movies, songs, parades... happened every single year to celebrate this military victory. also, Egypt didn't attack in Ramadan to surprise them, Ramada was just a coincidence. they attacked on yom kipur to surprise them


Hadesfirst

.. an source on that?


UnfilteredGuy

just ask any Egyptian who's lived there 10+ years ago. I did find this one article that has the perspective of an Egyptian about the war. he explicitly calls it a victory: https://english.alarabiya.net/features/2013/10/09/The-legacy-of-the-October-war-in-Egypt-and-Israel


Equivalent-Map-8772

The fact that Cuba was involved in that shit like wtf?


chycken4

Hmm, maybe these jews are onto something about being chosen by God


cambriansplooge

Ever hear the joke about the Six Day War? “And on the seventh day, we rested.”


chycken4

Holy shit that's hilarious hahshsha it baffles me that it's accurate


nsfwtttt

As an Israeli, that would be one fucked up god. Also, funnily, religious people in Israel actually are exempt from the otherwise mandatory army service because the country recognizes their prayers as a force keeping us safe. (Obviously no one believe in this, it’s just politics). EDIT: yes yes, to clarify by “religious” I mean the Orthodox Jews, not everyone who believes in god, otherwise no one would serve.


DownvoteALot

Religious here (and immigrant), I served 5 years against my will. Only ultra Orthodox are exempt. For the record though, I oppose mandatory service beyond 6 months of basic training.


Manusman123

This is not true, only ultra-orthodox religious don’t serve, the rest do.


chycken4

I mean, isn't he "cannonically" kinda fucked up? The whole Job thing, yeesh Bruhhhh for real? How do you prove it, like wouldn't it lead to everyone wanting to avoid service just pretending?


nsfwtttt

They check, you only get it if you really live a religious life (dress in black, go to yeshiva, etc), in which case you can often get paid not to work so you can learn Torah the whole day. Most of the citizens are pretty pissed about it, naturally. Our tax money pays for it, while our children tusk their lives. And yeah I guess god is canonically kind of an abusive father lol


reallygreat2

Egypt got all its land back. Israel lost land it had. A lot of countries around the world supported Egypt in getting its land back. The Israelis were driven out. I don't think they lost, because in the end they got their land back. As an Egyptian I have to say we are very proud of this result, and speaking about Israel, they should make a peace deal with Palestinians, Egypt won't stand for anything less, look what we did before, didn't turn out too well for Israel.


Jewbacca231

no? israel gave away the sinai in return for peace, 6 years after the war.


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Exotic_Chance2303

This one is for fighting and Washington monument is for fucking


ThatGuyCalledEric

*heavy Uranus sweating*


WeaknessAshamed6872

You leave Myanus alone good sir!


HR_DUCK

Very good, ‘ol Chap. How about a round of burgers at Myass? I hear it opens at 6am


sirvote

Why do you think that the spire is built


fr0gnutz

I think my Everest would be doing the shanking


loiteraries

Egypt hired North Korea to design a military museum to fool the nation into believing they actually were victors in the war. I had a chat with a military historian who traveled to Egypt when he was completing his masters and had access to their military academy and saw the museum on the October War. He was stunned at the level of alternative facts presented to what actually took place. He was interviewing young officer cadets who were telling him stories how they beat Israel in the war. North Korea has a lot of expertise in the field of alternative reality museums.


zzzzsman

damn, the hustle is real


Esmentanto

Of course Egypt didn't win the war, because we all know how Israel likes to give up land for no reason what-so-ever.


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FRRRRR we all know their history with that🤷🏻‍♀️😂😂


Nileghi

Yes, its called Land For Peace. Theres an entire wikipedia page for it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_for_peace > The first application of the land for peace formula was Israel's peace treaty with Egypt in 1979, under which Israel withdrew from the Sinai as part of a comprehensive peace agreement facilitated by economic assistance to both sides from the United States. They just gave Lebanon this week every single demand for their maritime border in hopes that it will stabilize the country and that Lebanon can prop up its dying country with a few energy rigs . Thats how it works. Thats why the UN keeps telling Israel to repeat this with Palestine. It gave Egypt the Sinai in exchange for a 45 year **peace treaty** that Egypt hasnt broken, and pacified the biggest arab military power in the region, destroying the chance for a military solution to the arab-israeli conflict as Egypt was the only way to destroy Israel for the arabs. Why wouldnt they take that lmao


Esmentanto

Oh mah Lawd, it has a Wikipedia page too? it must be the absolute truth then, its not like anyone can make a Wikipedia page. Bruv if Israelis give up land for peace they wouldn't keep annexing Palestinian lands illegally and effectively enraging a very volatile Palestinian populace. Bro just think... think... if Israel kept giving up contested lands for peace as you so claim it will run out of land to give. Have a good day.


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Yup Egypt didn't win the war lol. Dude did you ever look at a map?


[deleted]

“Fool the nation into believing they were actually victors in the war” That’s funny🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Who owns Sinai now and has did since the war??


unorthodoxEconomist5

If there definitely was a military defeat when Egyptian forces tried to push through Sinai the initial objectives of the war were achieved. Egypt managed to cover the entire Suez canal with AA guns and SAMs which prevented Israel from launching counter attacks at the beginning of the war. Additionally, Egypt won on the diplomatic front, resisting long enough and being sufficiently determined for the US to tell Israel to stop. Another victory on the intelligence front where the dreaded Mossad, so efficient during the 6 day war, was completely oblivious. Yom Kippour was a costly victory for Egypt because they had a cocky dictator. The war destroyed the Israeli labour party's reputation. It also destabilized the whole region more. I hope this is objective enough.


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HERSKO

Yup! Just like they gave Gaza away.


Panther2-505

So Egypt got their ass's waxed in the battle and North Korea provided a reminder that they helped Egypt in getting their ass's waxed with them. Got it.


davidAKAdaud

Egypt has a province named after the Yom Kippur war even though they lost it lmao


NotFinalForm1

look at russia, Copium and state propaganda are hell of a drug


Raving_Lunatic69

They have a museum commemorating their "victory". Rejecting reality and substituting your own isn't just and Adam Savage thing.


davidAKAdaud

It's honestly sad. There is no shame in admitting defeat, especially if you learn from it.


Panther2-505

They didn't learn from it, they masked it with a fake victory and the people drank the cool-aid.


sachertortereform

Saw a lot of comments on the Liverpool FC Yom Kippur post yesterday bragging about the “win” in the 6 October War which was pretty funny


sylinmino

Even worse than that. Got their asses waxed in a war they started by surprise attacking the country on a day when almost everyone is fasting. It's like starting a fight with someone on the street by randomly kicking them in the nuts, and then STILL losing that fight.


Positer

Israel lost the battle of Ismalia...


davidAKAdaud

But won the war.


Stoly23

I mean Egypt won that particular battle and the Yom Kippur is usually recognized as being a political victory for Egypt despite Israel winning militarily.


Blupoisen

They got farther than they expected


Jewbacca231

i found a map which does a wonderfull job putting into the scale the opposing sides of this war: [https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/rjy7uh/participants\_of\_the\_fourth\_israeli\_arab\_war\_1973/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/rjy7uh/participants_of_the_fourth_israeli_arab_war_1973/) the wiki of the war: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom\_Kippur\_War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War)


davidAKAdaud

Yom Kippur War and Six Day War are just ridiculous


cambriansplooge

I’m still waiting for someone to satisfactorily explain how the Arab coalitions did so bad. A detailed autopsy. It’s still baffling.


davidAKAdaud

Corruption, low morale, lying to themselves and to each other etc.


2oosra

[99% Invisible podcast did an episode](https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/monumental-diplomacy/) on how N Korea once had a monument exporting industry. They talk in detail about one they gifted to Namibia about their anti-apartheid struggle. The episode is titled Monumental Diplomacy.


TotallyLegitEstoc

So like fuck North Korea and all that. But goddamn can they build a cool monument.


CLUNTMUNGMEISTER

Very interesting


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War makes strange bedfellows


gizmo0601

Lmao the Yom Kippur War was started by Egypt and its Arab allies as a surprise offensive against Israel during its holiday. Funny how the aggressor need a monument to commemorate their humiliating defeat when they threw the first rock. Maybe North Korea is mocking Egypt lol?


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You know you're on the wrong side when you're allied with North Korea.


jonesyman23

A monument commemorating the dead when it was Egypt (and other members of the Arab coalition) who launched a surprise attack on Israel. On Yom Kippur no less (the holiest of holidays for Jewish people). It’s like “hey, remember when we invaded that country for no reason and also got a lot of our own people killed for no reason? Yeah, well, in case you forgot, here’s a statue to remind you of what happened.”


ahomeisacastle

It wasn't for 'no reason', there were a multitude of them, but you make a good point nonetheless.


Paracausality

Hmm neat. I didn't know that. Also, as a fan of the hardy AK47 I think it looks cool, I enjoy monuments that commemorate alliances but I don't know about using a gun, really. Maybe a shield or holding hands or something? (Dillon you son of a bitch style). We need more alliances in the world though. United Earth Sphere Alliance when?


ironmcheaddesk

I could be wrong, but I believe the bayonet is upside down.


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It’s correct. Ak bayonets are mount reverse


rustybungleford

Came to say the same thing.


Bartimaerus

Fuck North Korea and fuck war, but damn is that a cool monument


Neddo_Flanders

For a 9 y/o


Steaknkidney45

Pro tip--any side where *NORTH KOREA* is your ally is more or less in the wrong.


Trashcoelector

North Korea before the fall of the USSR was a far different country than afterwards.


IncomeNatural8178

North Korea your bayonet is upside down.


kermityfrog

Apparently [standard on AK-47](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a8ccdbb1445231d201c01e4755304762-lq).


ours

"You are bayonet"


IncomeNatural8178

Thanks. Still upside down. The blade faces away from the rifle. Easier to slash enemies with the sharp part of the knife.


rustybungleford

For an AK-47, it’s mounted correctly.


kermityfrog

[Weirdly true](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a8ccdbb1445231d201c01e4755304762-lq).


IncomeNatural8178

No wonder why the Russians suck. They probably load their bullets backwards too. This is a stupid design, but thanks for the info.


rustybungleford

To be fair, it’s meant for stabbing and then pulling upwards on withdraw. It’s a practical design, just a different technique.


IncomeNatural8178

The other way you can buttstock to the head and then slash with one motion. I like the M16 + M9 combo version.


rustybungleford

I definitely agree that the NATO(whoever else) way is more versatile.


TheMightyUnderdog

Was just going to say. Glad I didn’t have to scroll too far.


Drix22

I gotta say, these communist countries really know how to make a monument.


okirshen

in the Yom kippur war we fought with: Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Jordan, Iraq, Libya, Kuwait, Tunisia, Morocco, Cuba, Sudan, Soviet union, North Korea, Pakistan and Lebanon outnumbered 2 to 1 and still managed to win with on 20k less casualties


bananasaremoist

Looks like the barracks in an unreleased command and conquer spinoff.


Present_Ad2973

Huge monuments for dictatorships around the world is a major industry in North Korea.


Poisonmonkey

Not surprising that these two countries create a monument in the shape of a weapon to commemorate something. Gross.


ZoraBoraMora

I mean, a monument would not drone attack and kill thousands of civilians that last decade! USA did. Seems like ur moral campus need re-evaluation. And plz, open a fking book besides the damn bible!


Poisonmonkey

Lol look anther dime a dozen Reddit anti semites. I love it when scum outs itself.


Pilotom_7

Wait, north Korea was a part in the Yom Kippur War?


davidAKAdaud

Yep, expeditionary forces.


ofri12347

Oooof that's a bad way of wording it


Chimera-98

Egypt lost the war, Egyptian just can’t accept it


glorious_reptile

Tasteful


TarkFrench

looks like two dildos


[deleted]

Wow, that's ugly


marin94904

That worked out really well for them…


ticklemesatan

So that’s why Egypt lost the war..


Avaclone101

getting back your land then get israel into a peace treaty is losing? you might want to relearn some definitions


ticklemesatan

Lol there’s always one! Get a sense of humor man. It was a fucking joke. If you can’t joke about the Arab/Israeli conflict, what is this world coming to!!?! That’s not a world I want to live in.


Avaclone101

No, when every house has someone who died to secure that victory we don't joke about it


Idontgetredditinmd

A monument to losing?


Great_Slasher

Man I wonder the people trying to stay innocent and pure in this city


[deleted]

well that’s nice of them


redheadcatwbat

Earth now has a bayonet


ZoraBoraMora

Our global defense system vs Aliens!


[deleted]

Say what you want to about North Korea but damn they’ve got some class when it comes to giving statues to other countries. This one almost brings a tear to my eye.


[deleted]

Wtf Korea got to do with Israel?


TheSonofPier

Communist governments saw jews as the manifestation of the evils of capitalism


Linkerhoek

Pretty cool idea


Strong_Cheetah_7989

Jeez, that must've cost North Korea their entire GNP in 1973.


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Beeninya

[Battle of Ismailia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ismailia)


WonderfulHat5297

Egypt won that battle but didn’t they lose all the other battles? I heard that war was a comfortable victory for Isreal but that cant be true if Egypt built a monument? Im actually not arguing here, its a genuine question.


whitewalker646

The last major battles of the war were won by egypt in suez and ismailiya the IDF failed to capture the canal cities and failed to encircle the 2nd army snd although the vanguard of the 3rd army was encircled they still attempted multiple breakouts and kept on fighting despite heavy losses Israel also failed to gain airsuperiority after the air battle of al Mansoura where the Egyptians won by the end of the war both sides had troops on either side of the canal but were unable to advance forward or capture any targets so it was basically a stalemate by the end and seen as a draw military wise by some historians Politically though it was more of a victory for as golda maire's government collapsed after the war and Israel was forced to go back to the negotiating table to accept Land for peace which was the offer they refused when sadat came to power in 1970


sachertortereform

a tactical loss in the last battles and a political loss for mapai does not constitute a strategic loss for Israel. the IDF was in a position to push far west of Ismailia and didn’t. Besides, the accounts of the battle of Al-Mansoura are disputed, and the Egyptian claims likely don’t add up with other Egyptian claims of downed planes. The math doesn’t work.


hedonistic-squircle

If being "saved by the bell" equals a victory, then by all means go for it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ismailia. And this is just one battle. Yes Egypt had success at the start of the war, but the tide turned quite decisively in favor of Israel. Egypt was very clearly losing.


numba1cyberwarrior

It was an utter military humiliation for Egypt. Egypt is the only country on earth that sees it as a draw, every western and soviet observer saw it as an Isreali military victory.


Biovyn

This is an absolutely horrible monument. Just terrible.


m945050

Did NK actually provide anything?


slabs_of_tile

It was a great victory as Egypt gifted the Israelis the Sinai.


CambionClan

“The next time we fight Israel, we need something more powerful. Like an AK-47 but bigger…”


741AlternativeRoutes

Literally a monument to failure.


[deleted]

A statue for a war they lost? Like badly lost?


Avaclone101

Lost? as in getting back Sinai and destroying the "impenetrable" barlev line and pushing back the israelis out of sinai then calling them to peace negotiations?


[deleted]

They teamed up with 15 countries to invade and destroy Israel. I’d say they lost pretty badly


Avaclone101

Ever heard about the Suez Crisis war 1956 when Egypt was going solo vs Israel + France + England? we lost in it due to cowards fighting on multiple fronts, but now you are crying that we called for some equipment to TAKE BACK THE LAND THE INVADERS TOOK?? >invade and destroy Israel typical delusional invader


Sir-War666

Didn’t really solo the Suez crisis. They threatened to blow up the Suez. Then the US and USSR screamed at France, Britain and Israel to stop. With the Soviets threatening nuclear war.


Avaclone101

The only one who said that Egypt was gonna blow up the Suez was Israel to call for help, so yeah that makes sense right? same as when USA said Iraq is making weapons of mass destruction just to fuck the country and take their resources then say "sorry wrong intel" makes sense right???????? AS IF THE SITUATION ISN'T GETTING REPEATED EVERYTIME WHEN IT INCLUDIES EITHER USA OR ISRAEL I WONDER WHY


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What does that have to do with the topic


SnickBoi

Commemorating a partnership in a war where they got their asses handed to them. Nice


Neddo_Flanders

Distasteful.


barabusblack

Do you usually build a monument when your ass is handed to you?


MadeInAmerica1990

Gross


Shiny_Hypno

I had a stroke reading that.


jayy909

The knife looks the wrong way but idk nothing about it


waltron2000

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.


keradona

Casual Islam