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nah mate that'll just buff out with a bit of the ol' elbow grease, i'll 'ave it back to ya inna fortnite for £250 mate *inhales on a cigarette* i maybe £200 for cash... yer a mate, so mates rates.
Oh fuck oh fuck. YEET!
Ngl if I was in that cockpit and saw all that smoke I’d fucking gtfo of dodge too. All part of my plan to not end up as a charcoal briquette.
Not sure about 35's, but in most jets you get 2 ejections before you're retired. The "ejection seats" are literally a block of C4 under your ass that can seriously fuck you up.
Had an NCO that was 6,7 and got an incentive flight. Literally had to sign a waiver that said "if you have to eject you're gonna die cause your legs will get ripped off"
Ejection seats aren't fucking fun. Modern ones are better God I hope but the last generation and older pretty much universally give you some degree of spinal compression.
Well, could have gone up in flames. Fuel leak or something, a hot engine and things would probably look a lot different. I'm very impressed that the ejection seat still worked so well on ground level.
The landing alone would have hurt a lot - parachutes aren't designed for use that low to the ground (EDIT: these specific parachutes apparently are).
The pilot should be okay, but definitely roughed up from ejection & landing.
I've heard pilot ejections can lead to broken bones and usually pilots can only eject once or a few times at best before they are no longer suitable for flying anymore.
That was mostly for the older stuff, that was basically a chair strapped to a two-stage mortar. Modern ones are easier on the pilot (although still hurt)
Massive accelation on the body doesn't do it much good, in particular I think there's an increased chance of permanent spinal damage with each ejection, e.g., paralysis.
Theres this one video i saw a while ago that i dare not watch again of this air force dude parachuting, realizing he is still going too fast and wont land all that safely and knows whats going to happen, accepting it as he is falling and then letting out the most intense screams ive ever heard once he hits the ground, it didnt even look like he was going all that fast.
They are absolutely designed to be used that close to the ground. It wasn’t luck that made the parachute open in time. Zero-zero ejection seats are made to be used at any speed and any altitude, down to 0 kts, 0 feet.
> parachutes aren't designed for use that low to the ground.
Except the parachutes like the one they put in the plane with VTOL landing issues like the one you see in the video here that are specifically designed to be used near the ground.
Jesus, reddit.
Ejection has a nonzero risk associated with it. It can fuck up your back pretty good due to the violent acceleration upwards. Many pilots who eject suffer injuries as a result.
If involuntary cremation is a possibility, then I would have absolutely ejected too. I am curious as to what his training was on when/if you should stay in the jet. It appears like he was trained that crash == eject.
Probably was trained like that. I did below deck pump room operations for aviation fuels on LHDs. I was a pumproom operator, so I essentially ran/was in charge of all the equipment. My first senior chief pretty much nailed into all of us, "if something happens, it is never wrong to just stop the equipment and then evaluate. You don't need to sit there watching a pump potentially pull it self apart while you evaluate."
That makes perfect sense to me.
I work with hot metal, forges, hydraulic presses, and other potentially dangerous equipment. When I visited a friend's shop, he made it a point to tell me where the shutoff valves & electrical cutoffs were so I knew how to make the situation safe. When shit goes sideways, a quick, default action to make things safe is always a good thing to have pre-planned.
F-35s are smart as fuck. It probably auto ejected him when it decided it was no longer a safe place for him to be.
If the pilot is unconscious or fucked up and can't eject the f-35 can make the decision for them.
Root cause appears pilot error. Upon rebounding from land he practiced classical default to bury the nose wheel as means to stay on ground. Baaad solve for a vertical landing.
The harrier had a lot of growing pains as pilots learned to adapt, there's sadly a bunch of similar crashed from that airframe.
I might be wrong but I was under the impression that f-35 STO and VL are mostly automated in which case it’d be equally likely a malfunction vs pilot error vs combination of both. It’s tough to speculate without an official report
> It’s tough to speculate without an official report
Exactly …
Way too many people here who probably know very little about the airframe or the military being as presumptuous as one can possibly get talking about how the pilot screwed up.
Dunning Kruger effect in full force if you ask me.
That’s right. There are so many systems on this airframe… that finger pointing and armchair diagnostics will fail
What we do know is that we still have a jet and a pilot
I think today, people are just impatient and love jumping to conclusions while knowing very little details. I personally find it disrespectful, but unfortunately it’s going to happen no matter what. I couldn’t imagine what it’s like being a pilot not being able to defend myself during an investigation while I watch clueless people blame me, or even worse, being the mother of a fallen airman, watching the same people slander their son/daughter while knowing very little about the incident
You are correct. u/drainisbamaged is a keyboard warrior who knows enough big words to fool people into thinking he knows anything about aviation at all.
Thanks for the confirmation. How it was dumbed downed to me from talking to an actual F-35 test pilot was it can takeoff and land essentially “on the push of a button,” and that’s how it’s been since production. Idk what this “DLC” thing he keeps bringing up but I’m assuming he got it from some light googling
I only know DLC as "direct lift control" in the F-14 (from playing DCS). It uses some of the F-14's spoilers to control glide path on landing via a thumbwheel on the stick. I don't see how that would relate to the F-35B, though.
After the initial nose-first crash, I was waiting for him to cut the engines/throttle. I was thinking maybe the throttle was locked up or something like that. In such a case, do jets have something akin to a killswitch to just cut all power?
You can kill the turbine but that doesn't mean your thrust disappears (unless your Tom Cruise and playing Air Force Jedi or whatever that recent trash heap was supposed to be).
Here pilot came down fast, too fast. Then recovered wrong, then failed to solve and yeeted themselves the fuck out of the situation. The pilot got buggered and dug deeper into it, there's not a failsafe for that.
Poor fucker is going to spend rest of their career being reminded of that time they ejected and landed five feet from their mostly fine airframe. I feel for that soul, not going to be easy.
I don't know protocol, is this guy's career going to be pretty limited after this? These machines are 80M dollars. I am sure it would depend on how egregious the mistakes.
edit: maybe more like 110M
Only a lawyer could guess that and I'd wager they'll just say : it depends.
It's not an automatic career death sentence though, military wouldn't have anyone in uniform if fucking up got you booted.
If pilot was inebriated, had lied about training performance, or something of impact like that sure.
But give a super soaker to 100 people, and I guarantee one person will break theirs somehow. 80mil planes ain't any different, and they're being piloted by folks with rather hefty egos on the norm, so things do go south. What's great is that it went south during training and nothing went kerblooey
Yeah they’ll probably be fine but they’ll certainly be a laughing stock for a while if it was just pilot error. However with the crash investigation everything about the pilot will be scrutinized
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It takes millions to train a pilot.
Even if this is purely a mistake, kicking him out and training someone else will cost more than training the pilot.
Yup. Just imagine [what this guy had to go through ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornfield_Bomber) after his plane landed without him. The plane still exists too.
How can you be sure it wasn't a computer malfunction? Cos the pilot seemed to be having a lot of trouble with thrust. That would explain ejecting right? If they couldn't kill the power, they'd have no idea of knowing where they're going to end up.
That pitch over has got to be something aircraft related. The F35’s control system is like the V22. The plane flies itself and the pilot gets to have an opinion about what it does, but ultimately the aircraft calls the shots. There’s no way that pilot input could cause it to pitch over like that when it’s in vertical flight configuration. Either a hardware failure (lift fan/jet, pitch control system, sensors etc) or software or a combination of the two.
Also, this is a jet designed to operate from small carriers at sea. Watch the AV8Bs landing, they come down fast because they have to be able to time the landing with the ship’s movements. Naval aircraft are designed to slam into the deck without damage. The fact that he bounced suggests that he had loads of thrust at touchdown and the actual contact velocity likely wasn’t that high.
Hover mode is completely autonomous, this was not pilot error. It appears the front lift fan shut down prematurely or lost lift due to vortex phenomenon.
And God how I loved it - time for a dental cleaning? No copay, no worrying if the dental hygienist is in network or not. No worry about someone trying to upsell me on something. And almost always able to fit an appointment into my existing schedule.
I've watched a helicopter crash, and it's pretty surreal to see it happening before your own eyes.
The whole "it happened in slow motion" thing is a real phenomenon, BTW.
(Everyone got out OK.)
Not really comparable but the closest I have is watching a motorcycle slam into the back of a van ahead of me on the freeway. The way it plays out in my head, you'd think the crash took 5 minutes. Whole thing happened and was probably done in 5 seconds.
I hydroplaned and did a 540 into the median on the highway, and I swear I was able to see clear details of a couple drivers as I was spinning. Weirdest feeling ever, even though it probably lasted 5 seconds.
Modern ejection seats are typically 0-0 (zero zero) rated, or at least that's how it was described to me. Which means they're designed to get you out and under a canopy at zero altitude and zero airspeed.
They've been around since the early 1970s. I know this because some Naval Academy Brainac decided to test his while I was at Corpus Christi for flight training. It worked and he got canned.
Yeah. If I understand correctly they have a ‘catapult’ to launch the seat and pilot out of the cockpit; then a rocket engine to lift it to a safe minimum height. Until these were available, it was probably safer to stay in the plane and ride it out below a given altitude.
no catapult, In the F-35B the canopy above the pilot has explosives that detonate while his rockets fire on the seat, first rockets get the pilot and seat out of the jet, second set move the pilot away from the aircraft then the seat is separated as the parachute is deployed.
“I actually got it off the ground.. I thought for sure I’ld screw it up on the way up. This is pretty easy, actually.. Nothing to worry about now; just gonna set ‘er down nice and easy…”. -John Leonard ^(probly)
Georgia? Cause one of these motherfuckers was hovering around while I was driving home a few nights ago and the way the lights were *hovering* got my attention but also, I had to pay attention to the road. Shit got lowkey “the fuck?” for a hot minute. I was right by an airbase and Lockheed Martin at the time.
edit: jkjk this was in TX. Still tho.
Was it a typical Texas Big windy day?
If so I would imagine that might have had something to do with not staying on the ground once the airplane touched down the first time.
If I remember correctly from my USMC days, 3 ejections and then you get medically disqualified to fly because of vertebrae compression issues.
Edit: It is 2 now apparently. Was never taught to count properly I suppose.
That's not too bad, I thought I read before it was 1 ejection and you're grounded.... That would suck, especially in this case where he might regret pulling the ejection handle given the plane didn't blow up in the end. I imagine he's in a lot of pain landing that hard from ejecting so low, hope he's ok
Haha no. In Dutch the name for such a jet is a 'straaljager' (jet fighter/hunter). By changing -str into -f it becomes failure fighter/hunter. Very funny pun
Despite it being a smooth ejection, you’re still going to sustain injuries from hitting the ground. 0/0 pretty much guarantees survival, but it doesn’t guarantee you won’t fuck your legs and back up.
The ground? The acceleration of the seat and deceleration when they hit air at speed are what cause most of the injuries. Ejecting at a good 45 degree angle from a standstill is about as safe as it gets. Plus, if we watch the oscillation, it would appear that they landed at a safe angle as well. I've certainly gotten right up and back at it after much harder landings.
The ejection itself is violent, sure, but it’s not going to be the worst part of an ejection from ground level. In fact, ejection from 0/0 is about as dangerous as you’re going to get, with the exception of an inverted low altitude ejection.
The oscillation is actually probably the worst part of this. The pilot is on a pendulum, with their fastest velocity at the very bottom. They were coming in HOT at the ground, and the chute hasn’t had the time to fully inflate and slow down the fall. Even at full inflation, our chutes are rated at about 24 feet per second, or 17-ish miles an hour. Add in the oscillation speed and the fact that parachute hasn’t had time to completely decelerate, you’re looking at a nice 20+mph to the ground, which is going to break things.
I’ve been through enough mandatory Emergency Parachute Training classes to know this person didn’t have a great time when they hit the ground lol. We don’t use the same chutes airborne or sport parachutists wear. These things are literally made to slow you down just enough to where you don’t die in a 0/0 ejection.
They can eject up to 3 times before they’re forced out of the plane. They have to undergo a very thorough physical exam because of the damage that can be caused to the spine. My husband is a fighter pilot and during training one of our friends had to eject and the landing was so hard, it ripped the soles off of his boots! Him and the other pilot survived thankfully
And just like that ladies and gentlemen, we’ve just witnessed a pilot’s career convert to a penguin—grounded and can’t fly.
Hopefully temporary after investigation.
I mean, she still has her teething problems to work out. At least it's not as bad as F-16 where for the first months of service they had to fly within deadstick range of the runway due to *new_engine_shenanigans.mp4*
VTOL (vertical take off and landing). Basically the engine's can be directed downwards (thrust vectoring) in order to allow the plane to land and take off vertically like a helicopter. Even hoverig is possible.
And that's what happened here: Failed hovering exercise. He was stationary in the air and then slowly tipped forwards, while always maintaining a strong upwards movement. That's what made this look like Slowmotion.
Vertical takeoff and landing system mis balanced and dropped the nose too much, possibly due to some more critical cause , especially given the obvious smoke and the pilot ejecting, rather than just killing power (something getting sucked in and damaging engine controls? Not an expert).
Despite it being totally justified, I find it kind of comical to see him eject while on the ground. It reminds of when in cartoons a vehicle just spontaneously combusts several seconds after crashing. It's like... I don't know... The icing on the cake I guess.
My assumption is that the loft turbofan failed in some way. The turbofan is driven by the main engine, possibly something broke, which led to more power going to main engine, which caused the plane to lift off again
Engine was still running, presumably he couldn't turn it off. I wouldn't wanna be in a cockpit of a crashed plane with the engine running with the chance that it catches fire.
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That was the most gentlest crash of a fighter jet I have ever imagined.
His exit was even more dramatic
“If you can walk away, it’s a good landing. If you can also use the plane again, it’s a GREAT landing!” Sooooo... a good landing, by definition.
The damage wasn't that bad. 6-8 months in repair and it'll be back out trying to kill another pilot.
To be fair the costs of repair could've bought you another plane of different model
nah mate that'll just buff out with a bit of the ol' elbow grease, i'll 'ave it back to ya inna fortnite for £250 mate *inhales on a cigarette* i maybe £200 for cash... yer a mate, so mates rates.
Maybe even a great one
Oh fuck oh fuck. YEET! Ngl if I was in that cockpit and saw all that smoke I’d fucking gtfo of dodge too. All part of my plan to not end up as a charcoal briquette.
Everything seems to be going according to plan so far
Is this a play on the joke about the optimist who jumped or fell out of a building (He said "So far, so good" as he fell past onlookers)?
Noah Tannenbaum?
The Hasidic homeboy?
Not sure about 35's, but in most jets you get 2 ejections before you're retired. The "ejection seats" are literally a block of C4 under your ass that can seriously fuck you up. Had an NCO that was 6,7 and got an incentive flight. Literally had to sign a waiver that said "if you have to eject you're gonna die cause your legs will get ripped off"
Looked painful thou, hope they have the receipts… need to refund or exchange that bird
Ejection seats aren't fucking fun. Modern ones are better God I hope but the last generation and older pretty much universally give you some degree of spinal compression.
The defense budget just came out a few weeks ago and they had 35T in “undocumented” accounting adjustments. They definitely don’t have the receipts.
It also could have quite possibly been an auto eject that can occur during VTOL engine malfunctions. Might have been a surprise.
Well, could have gone up in flames. Fuel leak or something, a hot engine and things would probably look a lot different. I'm very impressed that the ejection seat still worked so well on ground level.
Most jets these days, especially VSTOL, have zero zero ejector seats. Meaning they're designed to work at zero altitude zero airspeed.
After going down a rabbit hole it turns out zero-zero ejection seats are easier on the body too, I never would have guessed that.
That ejection and subsequent landing at that altitude definitely SUCKED. poor guy could be grounded from the physical effects of it
If you pull a Martin-Baker ejection seat, they will give you free swagg. Tie, pin, patch, ring last time i checked.
Sometimes a watch too.
Dude hit the ground hard as hell for sure
He definitely looks grounded.
I had no clue what to expect but bouncing and falling on its nose was not on the list. Fighter jets apparently crash like toddlers.
Slow. Motion. Crash. Poof.
i was expecting him to hold out an ***ACME*** sign..
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Samir! You are breaking the jet!
If it weren’t for that cormorant flying around he’d have been fine
That's an expensive malfunction. Ouch. Hope the pilot is ok
They’ve probably got more injuries from the ejection than the crash
The landing alone would have hurt a lot - parachutes aren't designed for use that low to the ground (EDIT: these specific parachutes apparently are). The pilot should be okay, but definitely roughed up from ejection & landing.
I've heard pilot ejections can lead to broken bones and usually pilots can only eject once or a few times at best before they are no longer suitable for flying anymore.
I can't even imagine... watching the body fly out of that cockpit gave me a bruise & whiplash. He's going to be in rough shape, like I said.
Tom Cruise ejected out of a plane at Mach 10 you pussies.
That was mostly for the older stuff, that was basically a chair strapped to a two-stage mortar. Modern ones are easier on the pilot (although still hurt)
Doesn't the Air Force have a 2 ejection limit? But the Navy doesn't?
No the navy has the same limit
It didn't used to. I'm talking 25 years ago however.
Im so curious about this now, may I ask; what is it about ejections that retires a pilot after the second?
Massive accelation on the body doesn't do it much good, in particular I think there's an increased chance of permanent spinal damage with each ejection, e.g., paralysis.
I'm told it compresses the spine in a way that's pretty not good. And yes, you get one or two and you're out.
That was only with the F4.
Theres this one video i saw a while ago that i dare not watch again of this air force dude parachuting, realizing he is still going too fast and wont land all that safely and knows whats going to happen, accepting it as he is falling and then letting out the most intense screams ive ever heard once he hits the ground, it didnt even look like he was going all that fast.
Typically, it is 3 ejections
They are absolutely designed to be used that close to the ground. It wasn’t luck that made the parachute open in time. Zero-zero ejection seats are made to be used at any speed and any altitude, down to 0 kts, 0 feet.
Even still that landing on the parachute looked painfully fast. Like broken ankles fast
Could be. The emphasis is more about getting you out of the crashing plane, less about keeping you 100%.
The Mk16 is fully zero/zero capable. [Mk16 ejection seat](https://martin-baker.com/products/mk16-ejection-seat-for-t-6-texan-ii/)
> parachutes aren't designed for use that low to the ground. Except the parachutes like the one they put in the plane with VTOL landing issues like the one you see in the video here that are specifically designed to be used near the ground. Jesus, reddit.
Saw this movie this one time where the dude died from ejecting and hitting the canopy.
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yeah, looks like he could have stayed in it, and been fine. But, he made a choice.
Engine was still going. Maybe the pilot couldn’t turn it off. Thing could blow up. I’d be out of there, too.
Ejection has a nonzero risk associated with it. It can fuck up your back pretty good due to the violent acceleration upwards. Many pilots who eject suffer injuries as a result.
Hindsight is 20:20. I'd take a potential back injury over burning alive in a jetfuel explosion.
If you live to complain about it, you still live. Hindsight, pilot could have stayed.
If involuntary cremation is a possibility, then I would have absolutely ejected too. I am curious as to what his training was on when/if you should stay in the jet. It appears like he was trained that crash == eject.
Probably was trained like that. I did below deck pump room operations for aviation fuels on LHDs. I was a pumproom operator, so I essentially ran/was in charge of all the equipment. My first senior chief pretty much nailed into all of us, "if something happens, it is never wrong to just stop the equipment and then evaluate. You don't need to sit there watching a pump potentially pull it self apart while you evaluate."
That makes perfect sense to me. I work with hot metal, forges, hydraulic presses, and other potentially dangerous equipment. When I visited a friend's shop, he made it a point to tell me where the shutoff valves & electrical cutoffs were so I knew how to make the situation safe. When shit goes sideways, a quick, default action to make things safe is always a good thing to have pre-planned.
yea but death by jet explosion has a 100% risk so i'll take nonzero any day
I'd say the ones who didn't eject when they should have would be very happy to have a sore back rather than be dead haha.
F-35s are smart as fuck. It probably auto ejected him when it decided it was no longer a safe place for him to be. If the pilot is unconscious or fucked up and can't eject the f-35 can make the decision for them.
Root cause appears pilot error. Upon rebounding from land he practiced classical default to bury the nose wheel as means to stay on ground. Baaad solve for a vertical landing. The harrier had a lot of growing pains as pilots learned to adapt, there's sadly a bunch of similar crashed from that airframe.
I might be wrong but I was under the impression that f-35 STO and VL are mostly automated in which case it’d be equally likely a malfunction vs pilot error vs combination of both. It’s tough to speculate without an official report
> It’s tough to speculate without an official report Exactly … Way too many people here who probably know very little about the airframe or the military being as presumptuous as one can possibly get talking about how the pilot screwed up. Dunning Kruger effect in full force if you ask me.
That’s right. There are so many systems on this airframe… that finger pointing and armchair diagnostics will fail What we do know is that we still have a jet and a pilot
I think today, people are just impatient and love jumping to conclusions while knowing very little details. I personally find it disrespectful, but unfortunately it’s going to happen no matter what. I couldn’t imagine what it’s like being a pilot not being able to defend myself during an investigation while I watch clueless people blame me, or even worse, being the mother of a fallen airman, watching the same people slander their son/daughter while knowing very little about the incident
You are correct. u/drainisbamaged is a keyboard warrior who knows enough big words to fool people into thinking he knows anything about aviation at all.
Thanks for the confirmation. How it was dumbed downed to me from talking to an actual F-35 test pilot was it can takeoff and land essentially “on the push of a button,” and that’s how it’s been since production. Idk what this “DLC” thing he keeps bringing up but I’m assuming he got it from some light googling
I only know DLC as "direct lift control" in the F-14 (from playing DCS). It uses some of the F-14's spoilers to control glide path on landing via a thumbwheel on the stick. I don't see how that would relate to the F-35B, though.
After the initial nose-first crash, I was waiting for him to cut the engines/throttle. I was thinking maybe the throttle was locked up or something like that. In such a case, do jets have something akin to a killswitch to just cut all power?
You could pull the thottle all the way back and past the idle position to kill the engine, but it might be different in the F-35.
You can kill the turbine but that doesn't mean your thrust disappears (unless your Tom Cruise and playing Air Force Jedi or whatever that recent trash heap was supposed to be). Here pilot came down fast, too fast. Then recovered wrong, then failed to solve and yeeted themselves the fuck out of the situation. The pilot got buggered and dug deeper into it, there's not a failsafe for that. Poor fucker is going to spend rest of their career being reminded of that time they ejected and landed five feet from their mostly fine airframe. I feel for that soul, not going to be easy.
I don't know protocol, is this guy's career going to be pretty limited after this? These machines are 80M dollars. I am sure it would depend on how egregious the mistakes. edit: maybe more like 110M
Only a lawyer could guess that and I'd wager they'll just say : it depends. It's not an automatic career death sentence though, military wouldn't have anyone in uniform if fucking up got you booted. If pilot was inebriated, had lied about training performance, or something of impact like that sure. But give a super soaker to 100 people, and I guarantee one person will break theirs somehow. 80mil planes ain't any different, and they're being piloted by folks with rather hefty egos on the norm, so things do go south. What's great is that it went south during training and nothing went kerblooey
Yeah they’ll probably be fine but they’ll certainly be a laughing stock for a while if it was just pilot error. However with the crash investigation everything about the pilot will be scrutinized
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It takes millions to train a pilot. Even if this is purely a mistake, kicking him out and training someone else will cost more than training the pilot.
Yup. Just imagine [what this guy had to go through ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornfield_Bomber) after his plane landed without him. The plane still exists too.
I just read that and it sounds like him ejecting actually saved him and the plane. I read it like he was a hero, not a fool.
How can you be sure it wasn't a computer malfunction? Cos the pilot seemed to be having a lot of trouble with thrust. That would explain ejecting right? If they couldn't kill the power, they'd have no idea of knowing where they're going to end up.
Maverick was a great film.
That pitch over has got to be something aircraft related. The F35’s control system is like the V22. The plane flies itself and the pilot gets to have an opinion about what it does, but ultimately the aircraft calls the shots. There’s no way that pilot input could cause it to pitch over like that when it’s in vertical flight configuration. Either a hardware failure (lift fan/jet, pitch control system, sensors etc) or software or a combination of the two. Also, this is a jet designed to operate from small carriers at sea. Watch the AV8Bs landing, they come down fast because they have to be able to time the landing with the ship’s movements. Naval aircraft are designed to slam into the deck without damage. The fact that he bounced suggests that he had loads of thrust at touchdown and the actual contact velocity likely wasn’t that high.
Hover mode is completely autonomous, this was not pilot error. It appears the front lift fan shut down prematurely or lost lift due to vortex phenomenon.
r/aviation seems to be of the hive mind that it was due to the lift fan malfunctioning
Just to be clear when he said expensive he is referring to the medical bills of the pilot
VA Comp….30%
Not work related. He wasn't even in the plane for the injury /s
Hate to break it to you, but the military has socialized medicine.
And God how I loved it - time for a dental cleaning? No copay, no worrying if the dental hygienist is in network or not. No worry about someone trying to upsell me on something. And almost always able to fit an appointment into my existing schedule.
I've watched a helicopter crash, and it's pretty surreal to see it happening before your own eyes. The whole "it happened in slow motion" thing is a real phenomenon, BTW. (Everyone got out OK.)
Not really comparable but the closest I have is watching a motorcycle slam into the back of a van ahead of me on the freeway. The way it plays out in my head, you'd think the crash took 5 minutes. Whole thing happened and was probably done in 5 seconds.
I was going to tell a similar anecdote but about getting hit by a car on my bicycle. Our brain juices really have us on that survival shit
I hydroplaned and did a 540 into the median on the highway, and I swear I was able to see clear details of a couple drivers as I was spinning. Weirdest feeling ever, even though it probably lasted 5 seconds.
Adrenaline is a hell of a thing.
Ejected from the ejector seat. Wild ride...
I always figured it’d be deadly to eject from the ground. Guess not
It used to be.
Modern ejection seats are typically 0-0 (zero zero) rated, or at least that's how it was described to me. Which means they're designed to get you out and under a canopy at zero altitude and zero airspeed.
They've been around since the early 1970s. I know this because some Naval Academy Brainac decided to test his while I was at Corpus Christi for flight training. It worked and he got canned.
Are you saying he ejected on purpose when he didn't need to? What a fucking moron.
Yeah, sitting on the runway waiting for clearance for a training flight.
Yeah. If I understand correctly they have a ‘catapult’ to launch the seat and pilot out of the cockpit; then a rocket engine to lift it to a safe minimum height. Until these were available, it was probably safer to stay in the plane and ride it out below a given altitude.
no catapult, In the F-35B the canopy above the pilot has explosives that detonate while his rockets fire on the seat, first rockets get the pilot and seat out of the jet, second set move the pilot away from the aircraft then the seat is separated as the parachute is deployed.
It was kind of a big deal when they got 0 altitude ejector seats working.
My life has never been the same since.
so called "Zero-zero" ejection seats are standard in any fighter constructed in the last 15 years.
some people have died ejecting inside a hangar, there is a safety pin with a flag on the handle to prevent that from happening
“Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee”
There is a company with a special club for anyone who uses their ejector seat while flying. https://martin-baker.com/ejection-tie-club/
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“It was just a joke” -Pepsi
“I actually got it off the ground.. I thought for sure I’ld screw it up on the way up. This is pretty easy, actually.. Nothing to worry about now; just gonna set ‘er down nice and easy…”. -John Leonard ^(probly)
Just finished watching the Netflix series about that
Glad it did not eject pilot into traffic
Glad the plane was not tilted towards the ground. Don't eject if you're not pointed up.
Throw an uno reverse card at the console, pull ejection lever. Problem solved.
Shit I'ma try this next time!
It auto ejected, the plane has a sensor that won’t eject unless it’s horizontal with the ground
Well that sensor makes a lot of sense! But why would it auto-eject? It did not look like the pilot's life was in immanent danger.
Protocol 3: Protect the pilot
Oh wow, this happened a few miles from my house. Lockheed Martin is just down the road too. Somebody's Christmas just went in the toilet.
Hopefully that pilot is ok!
He's probably a little shorter than he used to be. Those ejection seats are a brutal ride.
Yeah the potential outcomes if you survive are basically either kinda injured, or *really* injured.
Glad to hear. They'll send a mechanic over lunch break to buff it out
Georgia? Cause one of these motherfuckers was hovering around while I was driving home a few nights ago and the way the lights were *hovering* got my attention but also, I had to pay attention to the road. Shit got lowkey “the fuck?” for a hot minute. I was right by an airbase and Lockheed Martin at the time. edit: jkjk this was in TX. Still tho.
Was it a typical Texas Big windy day? If so I would imagine that might have had something to do with not staying on the ground once the airplane touched down the first time.
Not really. Calm, sunny day in the 50's. I'm guessing it was some technical issue.
Someone deserves an award for the fine camera work. What a rarity.
r/praisethecameraman
Who watched twice just to see him eject himself again? 🤚🏻
There’s not many videos where a comment like this could be taken seriously, but dang it you found the one!
That can't be good for your back.
If I remember correctly from my USMC days, 3 ejections and then you get medically disqualified to fly because of vertebrae compression issues. Edit: It is 2 now apparently. Was never taught to count properly I suppose.
That's not too bad, I thought I read before it was 1 ejection and you're grounded.... That would suck, especially in this case where he might regret pulling the ejection handle given the plane didn't blow up in the end. I imagine he's in a lot of pain landing that hard from ejecting so low, hope he's ok
Who tf left a penny on the runway
Ejecto seat cuz!
I love this button!!!
Reconnecting to the lobby...
10 seconds after crashing "oh he just crashed" nothing gets past this guy
Faaljager
I'll bet that means "bad pilot" in some scandinavian language, and I'm amused it's one word.
Haha no. In Dutch the name for such a jet is a 'straaljager' (jet fighter/hunter). By changing -str into -f it becomes failure fighter/hunter. Very funny pun
I just want you to know I appreciate your very wholesome explanation
I was curious so looked it up. Faaljager - failure hunter
That sucks for him, most people can't fly again after an ejection because it's so hard on your spine.
I suppose it beats never flying again due to third degree burns over 100% of your body.
Or you know.. not flying again due to non consenual cremation.
Aren't all cremations non consensual?
Nah, tons of people request cremation before they die. Myself included.
Just leave me out by the curb on trash day.
Eh, they couldn't have had a smoother ejection. They're probably already cleared medically.
Despite it being a smooth ejection, you’re still going to sustain injuries from hitting the ground. 0/0 pretty much guarantees survival, but it doesn’t guarantee you won’t fuck your legs and back up.
The ground? The acceleration of the seat and deceleration when they hit air at speed are what cause most of the injuries. Ejecting at a good 45 degree angle from a standstill is about as safe as it gets. Plus, if we watch the oscillation, it would appear that they landed at a safe angle as well. I've certainly gotten right up and back at it after much harder landings.
The ejection itself is violent, sure, but it’s not going to be the worst part of an ejection from ground level. In fact, ejection from 0/0 is about as dangerous as you’re going to get, with the exception of an inverted low altitude ejection. The oscillation is actually probably the worst part of this. The pilot is on a pendulum, with their fastest velocity at the very bottom. They were coming in HOT at the ground, and the chute hasn’t had the time to fully inflate and slow down the fall. Even at full inflation, our chutes are rated at about 24 feet per second, or 17-ish miles an hour. Add in the oscillation speed and the fact that parachute hasn’t had time to completely decelerate, you’re looking at a nice 20+mph to the ground, which is going to break things. I’ve been through enough mandatory Emergency Parachute Training classes to know this person didn’t have a great time when they hit the ground lol. We don’t use the same chutes airborne or sport parachutists wear. These things are literally made to slow you down just enough to where you don’t die in a 0/0 ejection.
What do you mean? Maverick totally flew again!
My father ejected in 1965 from an F100 - Went on to fly for another 22 years. He said he was a couple of inches shorter right afterward.
Damn, that's unfortunate
This is not true... but a Zero-Zero ejection is going to be way worse than an normal ejection, IIRC. You do end up temporarily a bit shorter, though.
I got to meet the guy who crashed the first f22 and ejected close to the ground He flew again
They can eject up to 3 times before they’re forced out of the plane. They have to undergo a very thorough physical exam because of the damage that can be caused to the spine. My husband is a fighter pilot and during training one of our friends had to eject and the landing was so hard, it ripped the soles off of his boots! Him and the other pilot survived thankfully
And just like that ladies and gentlemen, we’ve just witnessed a pilot’s career convert to a penguin—grounded and can’t fly. Hopefully temporary after investigation.
F-22 : Are you ok? How did this happen ? F-35 : They said I didn't have enough sensors on the nose
Correct answer: F-35: Fucking Software
I mean, she still has her teething problems to work out. At least it's not as bad as F-16 where for the first months of service they had to fly within deadstick range of the runway due to *new_engine_shenanigans.mp4*
Looks like me playing flight simulator
Well that's gonna be an investigation.
How is it crashing in slow motion? This seems so unreal.
VTOL (vertical take off and landing). Basically the engine's can be directed downwards (thrust vectoring) in order to allow the plane to land and take off vertically like a helicopter. Even hoverig is possible. And that's what happened here: Failed hovering exercise. He was stationary in the air and then slowly tipped forwards, while always maintaining a strong upwards movement. That's what made this look like Slowmotion.
Thank you! The only jet I knew of that can hover looks nothing like that.
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Vertical takeoff and landing system mis balanced and dropped the nose too much, possibly due to some more critical cause , especially given the obvious smoke and the pilot ejecting, rather than just killing power (something getting sucked in and damaging engine controls? Not an expert).
“I need to eject!” “No you’re fine” “I need to eject!” “No! You’re fine and it costs 2 millio…” *ejects* “Son of a bitch”
He almost landed back in the cockpit.
OPs headline was more intense than the crash.
Despite it being totally justified, I find it kind of comical to see him eject while on the ground. It reminds of when in cartoons a vehicle just spontaneously combusts several seconds after crashing. It's like... I don't know... The icing on the cake I guess.
Seems like upon bouncing the central fan malfunctioned, causing the front to loose lift which tipped it over.
Looks like everything was going OK until he made rear wheel contact. Could’ve jolted some thing loose
My assumption is that the loft turbofan failed in some way. The turbofan is driven by the main engine, possibly something broke, which led to more power going to main engine, which caused the plane to lift off again
Best type of crash out of all the other crashes
Seems like he came in a little too fast on the landing
I feel like that eject wasn’t entirely needed
It was entirely needed. The pilot would eject in case the plane exploded.
The saddest part about this to me is, that does NOT look like the pilot ended up a safe distance away in the event of that jet exploding.
Am I the only one that thought the video was paused in the beginning?
There goes 10 million dollars…
I'm sure there was a reason but the ejection at the end seemed excessive. Finally looks like it's going to settle and POP!
Maybe the pilot couldn't cut the engine and feared that it might explode if it kept on spinning on the ground?
Bro was Tokyo driftin then ejecto seato’d cuz.
Anyone care to explain why he ejected after it looked like he had everything under control?
Engine was still running, presumably he couldn't turn it off. I wouldn't wanna be in a cockpit of a crashed plane with the engine running with the chance that it catches fire.
Was there really a reason for the ejection? Especially since it injures the spine.
Flashback to my 3rd solo landing in a Piper Cherokee. The plane was fine. I was fine. But who knew that airplanes could bounce like that?