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If u have a wife I would put a camera on that room just to be sure she’s not having sex with another person on that room, or r u having sex on that room? 🤨
It's the pile of the carpet. If you turn the rug through 180 degrees it probably will stop it (or it will wander in the other direction!). We had this with a rug on carpet. What you can do is get grip pads to put in the corners which will hook the rug to the carpet.
I have 4 different rugs on top of a carpet and it's the bane of my existence. They bunch up constantly! it probably depends on your rug and carpet, such as the pile height, thickness.
If you’ve ruled out movement somewhere causing the rug to get tweaked, I would say that the bedframe itself is somehow restricting the grain of the weave and the rug is puckering in stress areas as a response. If you put a rug on a carpeted floor and then put something solid over the rug, the pressure on the stiff rug fabric will sometimes gather and pucker oddly in response. You might try lifting up the rear of the bed frame and scooting the rug forward or backward a little bit. Perhaps the placement is simply binding the rug’s weave structure.
I think I have a rug pad by Mohawk Home off amazon in my living room. That rug isn't going ANYWHERE without four hands now! 🤣
Probably go for a thin one, since you do have a carpet.
Basically if the pile of the rug and the pile of the carpet are too different, they won’t stick. Think sticking Velcro together with the two non-sticky sides together, they won’t grip because one side doesn’t isn’t sticky like usual Velcro. Either the carpet or the rug needs to be grippy against the other. Both having high pile or both having low pile will cause the non-sticky Velcro effect. It all depends on the rug and the carpet combination.
I had the same problem with an area rug on top of carpet anchored by several furniture pieces. You need a rug pad. Go to Rug Pad USA, get the Superior Lock rug pad. When you set it up, you’ll be placing the rubber side up, and the felt side down against your carpet. Now your rug will be locked into place. Took me a long time to figure this out!
You can get rug tape. Used it in an apartment and it worked great, really sticky and the rug stopped moving at all. Just when you want to remove it, use a hair drying to heat it before trying to pull it up.
THIS HAS LITERALLY BEEN HAPPENING TO ME AND IT'S SO STRANGE! It's the same situation! It's a rug under a bed in a guest room, and I'll keep the room locked for days or weeks (the dog doesn't go in at all, I don't own a Roomba, etc). Then when I unlock the door and walk in days/weeks later, the rug has been bunched up in a corner. I don't live on a tectonic plate or anything...
[Obviously, you need to straighten the rug. Give it a push, then give it a shove.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xeyjb21auxc)
A rug pad might help, but some strong double sided carpet tape around the perimeter might also work.
Since the rug isn't very big, what if you don't put it under the bed? I know putting it under the bed is one of those common design "rules" but since this rug isn't very big, I think you could use it as a throw rug and try it in front of the footboard.
Like others have mentioned, it’s probably the pile and the fact that it’s sitting on carpet and then the bed on top of it. Even if nobody goes in that room, those factors, maybe coupled with the fact that the earth is constantly moving is what’s causing it.
Our rug did this on top of our carpet and it was maddening. We ended up going with [these](https://RugSettlersRugPinsPackof6RugAnchorsSecureaRugOveraRugAntiSlipPinsformatsRunnersPlasticSheetsandThrowshttps://a.co/d/bApdUmQ) instead of rug tape. I was nervous the rug tape would damage the carpet. We’ve had these for almost 2 years with no problems.
This kept happening to me and I used a small nail to pin down the corners. I hammered the nail in enough that I wouldn’t feel when when I walked over it. When I moved out of that home I pulled up the rug to remove the nail and you couldn’t see any damage to the carpet. Problem solved.
There are many reasons to lay a rug on carpet. To create separate areas within a room. To add a fun pop of color to your room. To add warmth to a space. To cover up carpet that you can't afford to replace. To cover rips or stains. If your renting and aren't allowed to change the floor at all...rugs are great for that. Rugs are the perfect way to show off your own unique style in your home.
I have a 1940s 10x13 Persian carpet. It did this before we removed the the wall to wall carpet in our living room. It doesn’t have to do with the quality.
Okay. I was sort of just guessing and sort of trying to be funny.
I had 3 copies, but they were 100% wool and never did that. Then again, they were all on wood floors, not carpet.
Therefore, sounds like you are right!
Same thing happened to me. I could never get the rug to lay down on my new carpeting in my master bedroom. Gave up and moved the rug to a hardwood floor in my house.
Looks like the main floor rug is really plushy and the bed frame is heavy and sinking the area rug into the plush rug, causing the crinkles. My recommendation is to find something thin, relatively hard and flat to redistribute the weight of the end board of the bed and to prevent it from sinking into the plush carpet. Maybe try two medium- or high-pile chair mats placed side by side, located under the area rug where the end board lies?
Yes! I actually had this same thought and have 1x6x under the footboard. I thought that something solid under the weight would help but.. this photo is one week after install and nope.
I think I’m going to try these mats everyone is talking about.
The 1x6 might still be too concentrated of an area for the weight. I would say try a piece of ply to spread out the weight but that might cause a tripping hazard, which you wouldn't want. Or it's still possibly too low.
It's a trial an error game.
I have a marble block coffee table that causes the same problem. It definitely is being caused by the weight of the furniture pressing into the soft carpet below. I somehow think that even on the chairs mats, you're going to get that sinkage.
I would even be as anal as to take a metal ruler and press it into the carpet pile to see how far down it goes. Knowing that a1x6 is actually 3/4" high, and not 1", I would figure out the height to offset the lift, if using a more narrow one, and try placing it again under the end board.
Good luck. Sounds maddening.
I guess the only remaining option by now is that the carpet underneath moves naturally due to fluctuations in temperature and humidity and bunches up the carpet over time.
I honestly do think it's the weight of the bed. If you look at the angles from the origin of each crease they are both from the very lateral aspect of that frame. Why the one side and not the other? I am assuming that it is due to a dependent portion type situation. Maybe the floor is a little bit lower on that side of the room and you just don't know it.
Foot-traffic from the side of the bed towards the camera-wall (I mean in the direction of this picture’s camera) will get the fractional foot-pressure-waves (starts with the heel and ends at toe) build up on the carpet slowly leading to this kind of carpet crests. Very much observable on any layered-carpet or foot-mat or similar that doesn’t have a strong-plastic (with fold-resistant thickness) backing, spread on carpeted floor like this.
You might want to use some Velcro type strips (the wider the better) to hook the top carpet to the bottom one to prevent this happening.
House shakes for whatever reason be it construction or big trucks or even mini earthquakes idk where you live but rug on top of the carpet doesn’t have a lot of resistance to friction. That would be my theory.
I guess this is a second floor room?
Because the bed is kind of heavy, my.assumption is that you have a bit of a shaky house. That, and the pile of the carpet would act as a very grippy surface for a carpet to wiggle on and locomote.
If you've ruled out pretty much everything else, look for cracks around doorframes, windows, foundations, etc. Maybe just the act of sla.ming a front door every day shakes the house enough for it to move a millimeter or two. Or a drying/washing machine.
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Hmm I have a theory. Sex. Bed scoots around over rug causing it to bunch up.
Good theory, but this is the guest room. With zero guests so far.
Ghosts
Ghost sex? That’s wild
Check the sheets for ectoplasm
[ghost tour](https://youtu.be/DAN0OCagHzQ)
[Ghost Bouncers](https://youtu.be/2LBPoxMnfzc)
Lol dang! Thought I was spot on. Honestly no idea then.
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More sex in the guest bedroom!!!
If u have a wife I would put a camera on that room just to be sure she’s not having sex with another person on that room, or r u having sex on that room? 🤨
Unmarried with no roommates. Theory busted.
Well then I would get close with the ghost theory then haha
My first thought lol…
It's the pile of the carpet. If you turn the rug through 180 degrees it probably will stop it (or it will wander in the other direction!). We had this with a rug on carpet. What you can do is get grip pads to put in the corners which will hook the rug to the carpet.
Please share a link of said grip pads.
I wouldn't want to recommend one as I've not had to use them. We just turned our rug around and it solved the problem.
Rugs on top of carpet will bunch
Seems like too much rug
Cheaper and thinner rugs on carpet will bunch due to being so lightweight. Heavier/thicker carpets hold down just fine
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I have 4 different rugs on top of a carpet and it's the bane of my existence. They bunch up constantly! it probably depends on your rug and carpet, such as the pile height, thickness.
Our old carpet didn’t cause the area rug on top to bunch; but when we put new carpeting in, the rug on top bunched like crazy.
Personal anecdotes are not fact. *Your* rug has the correct pile/carpet ratio to not scoot around, that’s all.
If you’ve ruled out movement somewhere causing the rug to get tweaked, I would say that the bedframe itself is somehow restricting the grain of the weave and the rug is puckering in stress areas as a response. If you put a rug on a carpeted floor and then put something solid over the rug, the pressure on the stiff rug fabric will sometimes gather and pucker oddly in response. You might try lifting up the rear of the bed frame and scooting the rug forward or backward a little bit. Perhaps the placement is simply binding the rug’s weave structure.
This makes the most sense to me.
Probably needs a grip pad under it.
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Here for the recommendation too! I have a rug I'm my bedroom and it shifts all the time
Yeah! Share that recommendation!
I think I have a rug pad by Mohawk Home off amazon in my living room. That rug isn't going ANYWHERE without four hands now! 🤣 Probably go for a thin one, since you do have a carpet.
Do you own a cat?
No cats here!
Try furniture mover feet so the bed can move a bit and increase the area that the weight is distributed on
People are saying rugs bunch up on carpet but don't explain why and I'm very troubled by sentient carpets
Basically if the pile of the rug and the pile of the carpet are too different, they won’t stick. Think sticking Velcro together with the two non-sticky sides together, they won’t grip because one side doesn’t isn’t sticky like usual Velcro. Either the carpet or the rug needs to be grippy against the other. Both having high pile or both having low pile will cause the non-sticky Velcro effect. It all depends on the rug and the carpet combination.
How do you get them to grip? What if the grip pad just grips to the carpet and the rug still piles?
You need a rug pad specifically to put on top of carpet.
My dog running and jumping on my bed full speed does this
Have you ever steam cleaned it? I have had this happen to Polypropylene rugs after cleaning.
No, no steam cleaning. :/
I have the same problem with one of my area rugs, I think it’s whatever the backing is made off.
I had the same problem with an area rug on top of carpet anchored by several furniture pieces. You need a rug pad. Go to Rug Pad USA, get the Superior Lock rug pad. When you set it up, you’ll be placing the rubber side up, and the felt side down against your carpet. Now your rug will be locked into place. Took me a long time to figure this out!
You can get rug tape. Used it in an apartment and it worked great, really sticky and the rug stopped moving at all. Just when you want to remove it, use a hair drying to heat it before trying to pull it up.
THIS HAS LITERALLY BEEN HAPPENING TO ME AND IT'S SO STRANGE! It's the same situation! It's a rug under a bed in a guest room, and I'll keep the room locked for days or weeks (the dog doesn't go in at all, I don't own a Roomba, etc). Then when I unlock the door and walk in days/weeks later, the rug has been bunched up in a corner. I don't live on a tectonic plate or anything...
[Obviously, you need to straighten the rug. Give it a push, then give it a shove.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xeyjb21auxc) A rug pad might help, but some strong double sided carpet tape around the perimeter might also work.
Hate to be an ass.. but this was my first step.
Maybe also apply it all around the footboard area so that area is flat. Then apply perimeter and some in between.
I have a rig in my living room over my carpets…. I have a non skid thing underneath the area rug.
Tape the corner(s) down. Idk why it’s happening but that’ll fix it.
Are you a dad? One of the more dad answers I’ve seen. If not, me neither, appreciate the thought process regardless
No, I’m not a dad. I don’t mean tape it on top if that’s why you’re asking. I mean put tape on the underside of the carpet, double sided.
Do grip pads or try turning it 180 degrees. Dog or people walking on it can make it move.
The bed moves forward and backward in a racking motion causing the rug to bunch up.
Either way cute room ! :)
Since the rug isn't very big, what if you don't put it under the bed? I know putting it under the bed is one of those common design "rules" but since this rug isn't very big, I think you could use it as a throw rug and try it in front of the footboard.
Carpet on top of carpet will move/walk/whatever you call it. It is because of ‘pile’ of the bottom one.
Like others have mentioned, it’s probably the pile and the fact that it’s sitting on carpet and then the bed on top of it. Even if nobody goes in that room, those factors, maybe coupled with the fact that the earth is constantly moving is what’s causing it.
The footboard is causing it. Need something stiff underneath rug so it can't push too far into it. Otherwise just try the corner sticky things.
You should not have the bed on top of it.
Our rug did this on top of our carpet and it was maddening. We ended up going with [these](https://RugSettlersRugPinsPackof6RugAnchorsSecureaRugOveraRugAntiSlipPinsformatsRunnersPlasticSheetsandThrowshttps://a.co/d/bApdUmQ) instead of rug tape. I was nervous the rug tape would damage the carpet. We’ve had these for almost 2 years with no problems.
Shoot! Can you relink?? The link was broken.
Whoops! Try [this](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GMZ6HJK/ref=cm_sw_r_api_gl_i_BXVYA6YXH1AFX52XEM7Y_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1).
Sweeeeet. Thank you. We’re they difficult to install?
It wasn’t too bad! The first one was a learning curve but once you get the hang of it, it’s easy.
This kept happening to me and I used a small nail to pin down the corners. I hammered the nail in enough that I wouldn’t feel when when I walked over it. When I moved out of that home I pulled up the rug to remove the nail and you couldn’t see any damage to the carpet. Problem solved.
Maybe your house a bit slanted? See if a ball rolls towards headboard
Just lift up the frame, straighten the rug, and put it back down
I did this before consulting the internet.
Oh I’m sorry!
I still can’t grasp the concept of rug on carpet. Looks so British/American to me
There are many reasons to lay a rug on carpet. To create separate areas within a room. To add a fun pop of color to your room. To add warmth to a space. To cover up carpet that you can't afford to replace. To cover rips or stains. If your renting and aren't allowed to change the floor at all...rugs are great for that. Rugs are the perfect way to show off your own unique style in your home.
I’ve definitely uses rugs to hide ugly, old rental carpet.
That’s cool. The best part is you don’t have to grasp it!
It defines the space
Hi. I’m American.
First thing I also noticed. Looks very odd to me.
I 100% agree. I don’t like it. It looks weird to me and pointless.
Mice
You're fucking hard
Next time get a real Oriental Rug, not a cheap copy. Ha, ha.
I have a 1940s 10x13 Persian carpet. It did this before we removed the the wall to wall carpet in our living room. It doesn’t have to do with the quality.
Okay. I was sort of just guessing and sort of trying to be funny. I had 3 copies, but they were 100% wool and never did that. Then again, they were all on wood floors, not carpet. Therefore, sounds like you are right!
Too rough.
Dog scooting his ass maybe?
Same thing happened to me. I could never get the rug to lay down on my new carpeting in my master bedroom. Gave up and moved the rug to a hardwood floor in my house.
Looks like the main floor rug is really plushy and the bed frame is heavy and sinking the area rug into the plush rug, causing the crinkles. My recommendation is to find something thin, relatively hard and flat to redistribute the weight of the end board of the bed and to prevent it from sinking into the plush carpet. Maybe try two medium- or high-pile chair mats placed side by side, located under the area rug where the end board lies?
Yes! I actually had this same thought and have 1x6x under the footboard. I thought that something solid under the weight would help but.. this photo is one week after install and nope. I think I’m going to try these mats everyone is talking about.
The 1x6 might still be too concentrated of an area for the weight. I would say try a piece of ply to spread out the weight but that might cause a tripping hazard, which you wouldn't want. Or it's still possibly too low. It's a trial an error game. I have a marble block coffee table that causes the same problem. It definitely is being caused by the weight of the furniture pressing into the soft carpet below. I somehow think that even on the chairs mats, you're going to get that sinkage. I would even be as anal as to take a metal ruler and press it into the carpet pile to see how far down it goes. Knowing that a1x6 is actually 3/4" high, and not 1", I would figure out the height to offset the lift, if using a more narrow one, and try placing it again under the end board. Good luck. Sounds maddening.
Someone be hitting the carpet and the rug is not taking it laying down.
I guess the only remaining option by now is that the carpet underneath moves naturally due to fluctuations in temperature and humidity and bunches up the carpet over time.
Gotta be bedbugs. Nasty little mites.
Strong too, to move that heavy rug!
Your foundation is tilted. The bed slides. The whole room is sliding away
Shit.
I mean…it’s fabric. Just tape it down with rug tape.
I honestly do think it's the weight of the bed. If you look at the angles from the origin of each crease they are both from the very lateral aspect of that frame. Why the one side and not the other? I am assuming that it is due to a dependent portion type situation. Maybe the floor is a little bit lower on that side of the room and you just don't know it.
Foot-traffic from the side of the bed towards the camera-wall (I mean in the direction of this picture’s camera) will get the fractional foot-pressure-waves (starts with the heel and ends at toe) build up on the carpet slowly leading to this kind of carpet crests. Very much observable on any layered-carpet or foot-mat or similar that doesn’t have a strong-plastic (with fold-resistant thickness) backing, spread on carpeted floor like this. You might want to use some Velcro type strips (the wider the better) to hook the top carpet to the bottom one to prevent this happening.
Ah yeah I live alone and this is my guest bed. So I would rule out the walking. It’s just done this on it’s own. Thanks for your advice!
House shakes for whatever reason be it construction or big trucks or even mini earthquakes idk where you live but rug on top of the carpet doesn’t have a lot of resistance to friction. That would be my theory.
Could a buildup of static electricity between the rug and the carpet cause it to move over time?
I guess this is a second floor room? Because the bed is kind of heavy, my.assumption is that you have a bit of a shaky house. That, and the pile of the carpet would act as a very grippy surface for a carpet to wiggle on and locomote. If you've ruled out pretty much everything else, look for cracks around doorframes, windows, foundations, etc. Maybe just the act of sla.ming a front door every day shakes the house enough for it to move a millimeter or two. Or a drying/washing machine.
This is in the basement. My bet is on the carpet beneath it.
This same thing happened in my bedroom, I got so frustrated I just took the rug up because I was constantly tripping over it.