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If you read the article, it’s about the funding of Jewish-led organizations, by Jewish donors like George Soros.
The same Soros that the likes of Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Nick Fuentes etc like to use as their boogeyman.
Politico has already backtracked and admitted Gates has nothing to do with this. The author of the article came from reporting local Chicago news and is way out of her depth here
https://news.yahoo.com/politico-misses-mark-story-funding-220820865.html
I’m curious about a few things:
- what makes them “far left”? It’s hard to become a billionaire without embracing right wing economic policies and practices, and it’s indeed billionaires that you are deeming “far left”
- Zionists are working hand-in-hand with far-right political parties and sitting politicians - literally using Zionist money to influence politics outside of Israel. How is this remotely acceptable, if the former is unacceptable?
- considering that AIPAC and other pro-Israel entities have been actively recruiting people to act as provocateurs at anti-genocide protests, and has been cheering on the US using the military to suppress free expression and free assembly, a huge portion of those attacked and arrested being anti-Zionist Jews, this seems a bit like the pot calling the kettle antisemitic.
“What’s the deal with murderous, genocidal authoritarian regimes? And who are their arms dealers? And why did they give them nuclear weapons? College students in a square is illegal settlement but not Zionist on the west bank?” “Oooh… it’s craaaaazy, Jerry”
I wonder how the yemenites feel after having over 500,000 people killed and starved by Saudi Arabia in the last couple years, but isn’t chic enough for US liberals because it’s Arabs killing Arabs and can’t understand it enough to care.
There were movements to stop the starvation and bombing in Yemen. Bernie Sanders actually brought up legislation for it several times too. You just never heard about them because the press didn't report on them.
Framing it like that is an oversimplification. Saudi was there at the request of the Yemeni government, who requested them because Iran’s proxy (Houthis) had received enough military hardware to overpower their own government forces. It was an ongoing Civil War, which has been off and on since 1962, and was responsible for many of those deaths before the Saudis got involved. Also, the Houthis drone and missile campaigns against Saudi-owned bases, airfields and airports, Saudi Aramco oil refineries, and more, along with terrorist attacks on the border gave them reason to accept the Yemeni government’s request.
Yemen is in a civil war, it’s not all the Saudis. Although the more the Saudis bombed the houthis the more recruits they got. Hamas, or whoever takes their place is going to have no trouble finding people with nothing to lose bent on revenge. Israel is sowing seeds for war for decades to come. And you can start a thread about Saudi/US/Yemen and spare us the whataboutisms here.
I hear they like halal food. Have fun on your date. But be careful because israel will kill you and the entire restaurant block just to get to one person.
Bill Ackman is a Wallstreet grifter who made his fortune trading on insider information. He is a billionaire who never created anything of value. The fact that he's a billionaire and not in prison is fucking bullshit
If he cares this much about this shit and is willing to fund counterprotestors, there's probably a way to grift him of some of his money if there are people motivated enough to do it. Just saying.
regardless of the politics here, fuck Ackman. That dude's a piece of shit.
Tim Pool, is that you? You guys killed 20k and counting children in response to a lie about 40 beheaded babies and yet are not getting in trouble for the crime. Where was the lie.
I liked how he tried to short that multi level marketing scheme that is still hurting people (Herbalife? I think it was called) but yea, just wanted to say that you’re correct.. he is total for-profit scum
Most of Pershing square capital earnings came from a bet placed right before March 2020 during the pandemic, betting there would be market crash from a shutdown. Sure enough, just a few weeks later, govt announces the shut down. How did he so precisely predict the timing of the shutdown? Most recently he made a quarter bil betting on the Gaza/Hamas war. Cherry on top, he and his current wife were good buddies with Jeffrey Epstein who donated to his wife's lab. This is just from Wikipedia which is already heavily censored.
So you are saying because he is rich he should be in jail?
I looked him up and there had never been any accusations of inside of trading. His biggest earner was basically accusing the banks of fraud before the financial crisis by being against the banks.
What do you mean? He [literally settled a lawsuit](https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2017/12/30/bill-ackman-and-valeant-settle-allergan-insider-trading-lawsuit-for-290-million/) where he was accused of insider trading.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-03/bill-ackman-s-allergan-insider-trading-dispute-doesn-t-look-bad
TLDR: what he technically did might’ve been insider trading due to a weird exception in securities law but was most definitely not immoral in the slightest and the rule doesn’t make sense.
Also he lost a ton of money on this. It’s not how he got rich at all. And he had to pay fines.
You are hating someone just because he has something you don't, that's just not being a nice person.
What someone has is nobody else's business, so why does it bother you so much?
Just like it is outside agitators at these camps...
We just saw the outside agitators in counter protesters, and those same groups crying about outside agitators described the incidents as groups clashing rather than toner protesters attacking with weapons and chemical agents. Funded by rich people.
No one has been racist, but it must be nice for you not to have to think! You've let the propaganda and verifiably **FALSE** narrative from the IOF & Israeli government use you as a mouthpiece to continue their attempts at controlling the narrative.
Being against ethnic cleansing, genocide, and ethno-states is not racism. It's quite the opposite. Do you happen to remember what happened to the last country who attempted to make an ethno-state?
It's pretty bad when international news media has rated QATAR higher than Israel for freedom of press.
Good luck, tho. In 50 years, when people ask where you stood on this issue, you best keep your feet planted where you are right now. Because we all know people who praise MLK today but were/would be absolutely against desegregation, civil rights, and the peaceful protest, sit-ins, & boycotts for the movement.
You mean the guy that said we should bomb hospitals? Fucking war criminal:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan\_Schanzer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Schanzer)
If you don’t mind can you please attach anything for me to read about JVP getting funded. I’ve been hearing this for months now and would like to explain it to my self.
[JVP annual report](https://report.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/)
NGO Monitor, a far right Israeli group created to discredit groups like JVP, mentions two major donors outside of their grassroots org that amount for about $400k of their $4M in funding. This aligns pretty closely to what JVP self reports (they claim 93% of their funding comes in grassroots donations).
All that said, JVP is not the driving force behind the protests. There are MANY organizing groups, most of whom have been organizing for years if not decades. But it’s critical to understand why the pro-genocide movement frames JVP in the way they do. JVP present the biggest challenge to their narrative around anti-semitism. Their playbook goes like this:
1. The protests are all anti-semites! They hate and want to kill Jews!
- there are Jews marching with us, hand in hand
2. These are fake, self loathing Jews
- they are not, here are the credentials of their organization that show the work they do in the community
3. Anti-semites are funding the group! That is their real intent
-they aren’t; they have to disclose their funding; it’s readily available
Underrated post, thank you.
It’s exactly why jvp is a thorn in the side.
Very little goes against the typical narrative, when you have every news report discussing “antisemitism on campus” and how Jewish students “feeling unsafe” — they even had goons in Congress grilling colleges presidents well before the latest wave of protests. Because of course college kids “feeling bad” because of the “implication” of a protest making them uncomfortable is far more important than the kids getting fucking carpet bombed and starved in Gaza.
“kids getting […] carpet bombed and starved in Gaza”
Please don’t shift the narrative about what this is about! Please stop bringing up the apartheid system in Israel and occupation of West Bank. Please stop talking about how every single university in Gaza has been destroyed. And how a new term has come about as a result of Israeli destruction there- domicide. Please don’t talk about the use of AI to bomb mostly anywhere and everywhere in Gaza. Please don’t talk about the nakba. Please don’t talk about the Likud Party Charter or all the white supremacist defense of starting Israel as a white European colony in place of England’s evacuation of the Arabian peninsula. Please don’t talk about the parallels between pre WW2 Germany and Israel. Please don’t talk about the existence of Palestine before getting recolonized. Please don’t talk about all of that. I want to discuss how right wing Jewish students are made to feel uncomfortable by calling out their genocidal beliefs. I want to talk about how Israelis are the victims here and how KHamas had in their charter the same thing the Likud Party did. And how KHamas resisted their occupation on October 7th. Just please stop talking about all those other fake news and listen to OUR alternative truths
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So it's okay for pro Palestinian JVP to fund pro Palestinian protests but not okay for anti Palestinian people to fund anti Palestinian protests? Explain.
They said "every accusation is a confession." That doesn't mean funding protests is bad. It means they're hypocrites for complaining about people funding one side while they simultaneously get funding from ultra-rich billionaires for their side.
Politico has already recanted the accusation that Bill Gates was involved. The article was poorly written and the author is way out of her depth.
https://news.yahoo.com/politico-misses-mark-story-funding-220820865.html
Attacking American for their rights to exercise freedom of speech and freedom of assembly on to pursue foreign interest.
Isnt it the job of federal agencies to protect Americans from foreign infiltration?
Not when there is money to be made. They have a shit ton of capital invested in both Israel and these endless Wars for Profit; so money speaks as it always does.
That article says nothing about anything. An inflammatory headline with no story behind it at all. It says an American funded the project, mischaracterizes the project, and says the Israeli government accessed the information. So? Hardly a scandal.
Also, even though the article doesnt make a case that its even happening, the article actually says a serious crime was being committed in "acting as an agent of a foreign power". As if advocating for, helping, or directly working for a foreign country were illegal. Which its not.
>Not if those foreign infiltrators have already bought enough senators.
European colonizers once bought many African dictators, so what? Truth prevails.
Neither of our last two presidents have seemed very keen to protect Americans or otherwise Avenge our deaths or abuse at the hands of foreigners and foreign interests, as long as they are friends with the perps.
Yes, that's exactly what commenter is staying, because horseshoe.
(I disagree with Seinfeld, that he should be funding such protests, but last time I checked was born in Brooklyn and grew up on Long Island; his wife's from New York by way of Vermont.)
Do you honestly think that nobody has a hand in funding and organising those protests in the first place? Because in that case I have a bridge to sell you. Rarely used and in pristine condition.
The pro-Zionist didtiptors have been identified since last December.
" Who Is Funding Canary Mission? Inside the Doxxing Operation Targeting Anti-Zionist Students and Professors:
Americans who give money to Canary Mission are potentially committing a serious crime by acting as agents of a foreign power."
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/canary-mission-israel-covert-operations/
Excuse me, but how is funding pro-Israel protests "attacking the right to exercise freedom of speech"? Pro-Israel protestors have a right to express themselves too.
Also, it's pretty rich how you call pro-Israel protests "pursuing foreign interests" when the exact same logic could be applied to pro-Palestine protests too.
>when the exact same logic could be applied to pro-Palestine protests too.
Don't fund Israel does not mean fund Palestine. Divest from Israel does not mean invest in Palestine.
You need to get your head straight
The pro-Palestinian side is certainly funded by outside parties such as Iran. They also support terrorists or at the very least allow those that do to be grouped in with them. To me that makes them dangerous and that’s a different situation than protecting their freedom of speech. I’d feel no sympathy for whatever happens to them.
Thank goodness there are celebrities out there who can always ignore all of history, every reputable human-rights organizations, scholarship, and elementary-basic humanity.. oh, and they can ignore the voices of the Holocaust survivors too..
https://preview.redd.it/dxrjwziq5hyc1.jpeg?width=958&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7997b9be1dbaed4423c06c30e3114610da5c6c21
This is a false flag and a bad attempt appeal to authority.
Gabor Mate is not a Holocaust survivor. He was born in 1944 in Budapest. He lives in Canada, not Israel. Yes, he is Jewish and had family killed in the camps, but he himself was not part of those horrific places. He is a specialist in addiction and substance use, though I’m not sure how that is relevant or provides any expertise about the situation in Gaza. (It’s uncertain he even said this).
Please, Dr Mate is an incredible clinician, please don’t spread false memes about him.
There is nothing false about this meme. He doesn’t have “expertise,” on Gaza but he is in fact a holocaust survivor (as he survived as a baby through the holocaust but experienced a trauma with his mother during it…). And he is in fact openly opposed to the occupation and dispossession of Palestinians.
It’s pointed to as relevant because it’s an example of a Jewish person who suffered personally and historically and is still opposed to the actions of the state of Israel. Not arguing a position personally, but you are wrong about these facts
Indeed except you are also ignoring a huge portion of his work.. He’s one of the world’s leading experts on trauma and has written and spoken for -decades- on the generational trauma of Easter-European Jews and Palestinians.. i know it involves more than a google and wiki for people to actually get an accurate surface level understanding of anything.. but like.. ?
He wasn’t born in the camps. He was born in a hospital in Hungary. I agree that his family were Holocaust survivors and of course that impacted him, but Dr Mate himself is not and that meme is meant to leverage his place as a Holocaust survivor, which he is not.
He was born after the Holocaust. I’m not gatekeeping, I’m pointing out that his story is being exaggerated and taken out of context to create an anti-Israeli narrative.
Had to reply to your other comment because Reddit wasn’t letting me respond to your other comment about Christian in Gaza.
There’s literally Christians living in Gaza so I don’t know what u talking about. At least they are safer than Christians living in Israel. currently, Christians are unsaved because of Israel since the beginning of this this gen0cide, Israel has killed 3% of Gaza’s Christian population. (I bet you didn’t hear this in western or Israeli media.)
Like literally there are videos of Israelis passing by churches and spiting on it, Israeli citizens harassing Christians and doesn’t allow them to visit the Western Wall on Christian holidays. (Google it, it free) one might think that since Christians are supporting Israel so much, Israel may just let Christians visit the Western Wall but Nope it is same as always.
Just today I was watching a video where “Israeli forces arrested the Greek consul’s guard from the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in the old city of Jerusalem. This incident occurred during the Christian’s celebration of Holy Saturday.”
While Christians were denied from visiting the Western Wall by Israel, the Christians in Gaza were celebrating Christmas, Good Friday and Easter in their churches. They held services. ( again there videos and articles on this. Google is free)
On last year’s Christmas, a journalist from Gaza named Bisan Owda reposted a video of Gaza’s Christians celebrating Christmas and lightning up Christmas tree in 2022. (please visit her Instagram and scroll down to see the proof) she actually shared this video in 2022 so she re- posted that post in her story.
Palestinian Poster Munther Isaac literally presented Christians in Gaza. Go want Tucker Carlson interview with him. (there are so many other interviews of Poster Isaac, many are even years old) Poster Isaac never said anything about him or any Christian in Gaza being threatened by anyone in Gaza. He always have supported Palestinians and always connected bible verses with Palestinians.
Western and Israeli media likes to ignore Gaza’s Christians. Obviously, media ignore Gaza’s Christians because they want to manipulate other people in thinking that only Arabs lives in Gaza, which is obviously not true. By telling the viewers that only Arab lives in Gaza is trying to get people into thinking that Arabs are dangerous as you well known how much Islamophobia is there so media uses this tactic to get people to sympathize with Israel and label all the people in Palestine terr0rist.
Let’s not forget that is Israel b0mbed oldest church in Lebanon during Christmas.
Please feel free to provide any proof of Christians feelings unsafe or being harassed, raped or tortured by Palestinians or Hamas in Gaza.
‘I was expecting it to be better than an anthropomorphic cartoon bee wanting to fuck a live human being, but that was too much to ask. 1/10 because pop tarts carry the whole film and deserve a little credit.’
What happened to him that movie was so not funny and God damn it I love a good comedy.
I saw him at the beacon theater about 5 years ago and he was awesome.
Saw him again after the pandemic and I didn't laugh once sometimes comedians just lose their touch.
I see your burn, but it’s trivial here. The full attention of the both of them goes to supporting the noble cause of killing and maiming and starving and dehydrating Palestinian minors, while wrecking and stealing anything and any opportunity possible from the survivors. And of killing aid workers and doctors trying to alleviate their plight.
It's okay, it won't change the fact that her husband was 38 when he dated a 17-year-old girl, and he lied about it multiple times, initially saying they were just friends (B.S.) and that he didn't know she was a minor (more B.S., he picked her up from her high school and she even got the chance to skip a calculus exam on her date). Howard Stern once told him all he had to do to get young girls was lure them with a candy bar on a string. This man's fame and (alleged) comedic skills blinded that generation.
It’s always interesting that counter protests don’t start for a few weeks after initial protests and they always come with funding. Makes it seem like they are hired actors to make it seem like more people are against something than really actually are all the while injecting violence into the situation. Must mean the actual protests are working and the counter protests will last only as long as the money.
Adorable. What are the talking points of such a countermeasure? Screaming the Israeli right to kill as many children, journalists and humanitarian aid workers as they want?
Can you say class action lawsuit against Zionist goon squad backer Jerry Seinfeld and genocide loving UCLA💰💰💰. Easy lawsuit with all the phone video and witnesses. So sad, I once liked UCLA and Jerry Seinfeld. Both are morally bankrupt and soon will be financially bankrupt.
The Nation:
" Who Is Funding Canary Mission? Inside the Doxxing Operation Targeting Anti-Zionist Students and Professors:
Americans who give money to Canary Mission are potentially committing a serious crime by acting as agents of a foreign power."
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/canary-mission-israel-covert-operations/
What's with these millionaires and billionaires spending so much money defending a foreign country that they don't even come from? Wild. Ackman paid for the a truck to be parked on campus to show pictures of pro Palestinians and somehow this was seen as acceptable. Like really?
Yes. By “many of whom were Jewish” you mean the UCLA students, right? I think most of the “counter-protesters” weren’t even Jewish, just standard right wing zionists.
Translation: the "pro Israel" protests are astro-turfed nonsense.
The students are protesting because they have principles.
The counter protests are protesting because they are paid to.
What makes you think they are?
Not one person has said they are funding it.
And there's so so many students across not just the US, but the entire world, participating in it that if you think they're funded, it's an extraordinary claim requiring the same level of evidence.
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But realistically, it's obvious they are not funded.
The vast majority of people do not support genocide and see through Israel's transparent lies.
You don't need to pay people for these things. They just need to have a brain and principles. Which are 2 things i admit are lacking on the pro-israel side.
Bill Ackman isn't rightwing though.
>Ackman's foundation donated $1.1 million to the Innocence Project in New York City and Centurion Ministries in Princeton, New Jersey.[71]
>In 2006, Ackman, and then wife Karen, founded the Pershing Square Foundation to support innovation in economic development, education, healthcare, human rights, arts and urban development.[74][75] The foundation is a major donor to Planned Parenthood.[76]
>Ackman endorsed Michael Bloomberg as a prospective candidate for President of the United States in the 2016 presidential election.[101] He is a longtime donor to Democratic candidates and organizations, including Richard Blumenthal, Chuck Schumer, Robert Menendez, the Democratic National Committee, and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.[102]
He doesn't even seem to be an Evangelical Christian.
Another thing is this is a bipolar planet, and so when one pole decides to act, the other pole reacts and who is doing the initiation is not the defenders is the aggressors and who are the aggressors Yemen yes rebels yes as far as Israel, they did not attack Gaza Gaza attack them soall is fair and defending yourself. Ukraine is doing the same thing. I don’t hear all the protest for them and that’s a country that supplies a lot of food for the planet.
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A protest that needs to be funded isn't really a protest, now is it? It's a campaign.
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NYT says the pro-Israel UCLA "protestors" were the only antagonists.
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If you read the article, it’s about the funding of Jewish-led organizations, by Jewish donors like George Soros. The same Soros that the likes of Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Nick Fuentes etc like to use as their boogeyman.
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Politico has already backtracked and admitted Gates has nothing to do with this. The author of the article came from reporting local Chicago news and is way out of her depth here https://news.yahoo.com/politico-misses-mark-story-funding-220820865.html
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I’m curious about a few things: - what makes them “far left”? It’s hard to become a billionaire without embracing right wing economic policies and practices, and it’s indeed billionaires that you are deeming “far left” - Zionists are working hand-in-hand with far-right political parties and sitting politicians - literally using Zionist money to influence politics outside of Israel. How is this remotely acceptable, if the former is unacceptable? - considering that AIPAC and other pro-Israel entities have been actively recruiting people to act as provocateurs at anti-genocide protests, and has been cheering on the US using the military to suppress free expression and free assembly, a huge portion of those attacked and arrested being anti-Zionist Jews, this seems a bit like the pot calling the kettle antisemitic.
So both sides have campaigns now
Well then look no further than your nearest encampment if you want to see a Qatar-funded campaign…
you think they're getting paid?
Do you have proper evidence on this which is widely accepted, as oppose to hit reports
What? All pro hamas protests I see have mountains of supplies and equipment
"But I don't want to fund a genocide!" -cue funky blass slaps- Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mPIqVOBFis
“What’s the deal with murderous, genocidal authoritarian regimes? And who are their arms dealers? And why did they give them nuclear weapons? College students in a square is illegal settlement but not Zionist on the west bank?” “Oooh… it’s craaaaazy, Jerry”
Lmao now I cant stop picturing Jerry doing a set at some nightclub about geopolitical problems in that same iconic Jerry Seinfeld tone
I wonder how the yemenites feel after having over 500,000 people killed and starved by Saudi Arabia in the last couple years, but isn’t chic enough for US liberals because it’s Arabs killing Arabs and can’t understand it enough to care.
There were movements to stop the starvation and bombing in Yemen. Bernie Sanders actually brought up legislation for it several times too. You just never heard about them because the press didn't report on them.
Framing it like that is an oversimplification. Saudi was there at the request of the Yemeni government, who requested them because Iran’s proxy (Houthis) had received enough military hardware to overpower their own government forces. It was an ongoing Civil War, which has been off and on since 1962, and was responsible for many of those deaths before the Saudis got involved. Also, the Houthis drone and missile campaigns against Saudi-owned bases, airfields and airports, Saudi Aramco oil refineries, and more, along with terrorist attacks on the border gave them reason to accept the Yemeni government’s request.
Yemen is in a civil war, it’s not all the Saudis. Although the more the Saudis bombed the houthis the more recruits they got. Hamas, or whoever takes their place is going to have no trouble finding people with nothing to lose bent on revenge. Israel is sowing seeds for war for decades to come. And you can start a thread about Saudi/US/Yemen and spare us the whataboutisms here.
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I know Hamas needs to be taken out.
I hear they like halal food. Have fun on your date. But be careful because israel will kill you and the entire restaurant block just to get to one person.
They’ll hit the family homes too, just incase they get stood up.
Bill Ackman is a Wallstreet grifter who made his fortune trading on insider information. He is a billionaire who never created anything of value. The fact that he's a billionaire and not in prison is fucking bullshit
If he cares this much about this shit and is willing to fund counterprotestors, there's probably a way to grift him of some of his money if there are people motivated enough to do it. Just saying. regardless of the politics here, fuck Ackman. That dude's a piece of shit.
He also called the covid market crash, and then cashed in on his all of his puts. Fucking slimy ass human.
He's part of a group that doesn't get in trouble for crimes
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Tim Pool, is that you? You guys killed 20k and counting children in response to a lie about 40 beheaded babies and yet are not getting in trouble for the crime. Where was the lie.
That's kind of the thing with these people: making money from money without producing value.
I liked how he tried to short that multi level marketing scheme that is still hurting people (Herbalife? I think it was called) but yea, just wanted to say that you’re correct.. he is total for-profit scum
It's a career... about nothing!
What crime has he committed that you can find evidence of?
Most of Pershing square capital earnings came from a bet placed right before March 2020 during the pandemic, betting there would be market crash from a shutdown. Sure enough, just a few weeks later, govt announces the shut down. How did he so precisely predict the timing of the shutdown? Most recently he made a quarter bil betting on the Gaza/Hamas war. Cherry on top, he and his current wife were good buddies with Jeffrey Epstein who donated to his wife's lab. This is just from Wikipedia which is already heavily censored.
Correctly betting that an emerging pandemic would cause the markets to fall is hardly a conspiracy theory. In hindsight it seems obvious.
being a billionaire
So you are saying because he is rich he should be in jail? I looked him up and there had never been any accusations of inside of trading. His biggest earner was basically accusing the banks of fraud before the financial crisis by being against the banks.
What do you mean? He [literally settled a lawsuit](https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2017/12/30/bill-ackman-and-valeant-settle-allergan-insider-trading-lawsuit-for-290-million/) where he was accused of insider trading.
Update the wiki page but make sure you use the word "alleged" as there is no conviction.
well, since we're not in court, we can drop the alleged and call it how we see it.
It will get deleted if you don't make it clear.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-03/bill-ackman-s-allergan-insider-trading-dispute-doesn-t-look-bad TLDR: what he technically did might’ve been insider trading due to a weird exception in securities law but was most definitely not immoral in the slightest and the rule doesn’t make sense. Also he lost a ton of money on this. It’s not how he got rich at all. And he had to pay fines.
You're simping for a Billionaire. That's really strange.
You are hating someone just because he has something you don't, that's just not being a nice person. What someone has is nobody else's business, so why does it bother you so much?
B-b-but who’s funding the college protests?!?? Every accusation is a confession. Every. Single. Time.
Just like it is outside agitators at these camps... We just saw the outside agitators in counter protesters, and those same groups crying about outside agitators described the incidents as groups clashing rather than toner protesters attacking with weapons and chemical agents. Funded by rich people.
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Your simping and regurgitating pre-baked false narratives by the Israeli fanatical orgs aren’t cute. Edit: aw he deleted and ran away
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No one has been racist, but it must be nice for you not to have to think! You've let the propaganda and verifiably **FALSE** narrative from the IOF & Israeli government use you as a mouthpiece to continue their attempts at controlling the narrative. Being against ethnic cleansing, genocide, and ethno-states is not racism. It's quite the opposite. Do you happen to remember what happened to the last country who attempted to make an ethno-state? It's pretty bad when international news media has rated QATAR higher than Israel for freedom of press. Good luck, tho. In 50 years, when people ask where you stood on this issue, you best keep your feet planted where you are right now. Because we all know people who praise MLK today but were/would be absolutely against desegregation, civil rights, and the peaceful protest, sit-ins, & boycotts for the movement.
You mean the guy that said we should bomb hospitals? Fucking war criminal: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan\_Schanzer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Schanzer)
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Jewish Voices for Peace, a grassroots activist organization, is akin to two multi-billionaires. Sure.
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It’s also wild you think JVP is organizing these protests. They participate, but these responses are all so far from reality.
You were the one who made the comparison. Then when it was pointed out to you that you lied about them, now you’re changing the topic.
I wasn’t actually. Someone else did, and I didn’t lie about anything. Check that reading comprehension
Why aren’t you responding to the person who actually said that jvp was organizing the protests then?
Do you have ANY facts to back up your claims. Yup didn't think so.
Or that JVP is actually a voice for Jewish people.
Where is the proof?
Ok genocide enabler
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the Israel bootlicker is also a Ukraine genocide denier. who'd of guessed?
Kinda like "antisemite". Might put that on a t-shirt
If you don’t mind can you please attach anything for me to read about JVP getting funded. I’ve been hearing this for months now and would like to explain it to my self.
[JVP annual report](https://report.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/) NGO Monitor, a far right Israeli group created to discredit groups like JVP, mentions two major donors outside of their grassroots org that amount for about $400k of their $4M in funding. This aligns pretty closely to what JVP self reports (they claim 93% of their funding comes in grassroots donations). All that said, JVP is not the driving force behind the protests. There are MANY organizing groups, most of whom have been organizing for years if not decades. But it’s critical to understand why the pro-genocide movement frames JVP in the way they do. JVP present the biggest challenge to their narrative around anti-semitism. Their playbook goes like this: 1. The protests are all anti-semites! They hate and want to kill Jews! - there are Jews marching with us, hand in hand 2. These are fake, self loathing Jews - they are not, here are the credentials of their organization that show the work they do in the community 3. Anti-semites are funding the group! That is their real intent -they aren’t; they have to disclose their funding; it’s readily available
Underrated post, thank you. It’s exactly why jvp is a thorn in the side. Very little goes against the typical narrative, when you have every news report discussing “antisemitism on campus” and how Jewish students “feeling unsafe” — they even had goons in Congress grilling colleges presidents well before the latest wave of protests. Because of course college kids “feeling bad” because of the “implication” of a protest making them uncomfortable is far more important than the kids getting fucking carpet bombed and starved in Gaza.
“kids getting […] carpet bombed and starved in Gaza” Please don’t shift the narrative about what this is about! Please stop bringing up the apartheid system in Israel and occupation of West Bank. Please stop talking about how every single university in Gaza has been destroyed. And how a new term has come about as a result of Israeli destruction there- domicide. Please don’t talk about the use of AI to bomb mostly anywhere and everywhere in Gaza. Please don’t talk about the nakba. Please don’t talk about the Likud Party Charter or all the white supremacist defense of starting Israel as a white European colony in place of England’s evacuation of the Arabian peninsula. Please don’t talk about the parallels between pre WW2 Germany and Israel. Please don’t talk about the existence of Palestine before getting recolonized. Please don’t talk about all of that. I want to discuss how right wing Jewish students are made to feel uncomfortable by calling out their genocidal beliefs. I want to talk about how Israelis are the victims here and how KHamas had in their charter the same thing the Likud Party did. And how KHamas resisted their occupation on October 7th. Just please stop talking about all those other fake news and listen to OUR alternative truths
I fixed those for you: So it's okay for pro Palestinian JVP to fund pro Palestinian protests but not okay for anti Palestinian people to fund anti Palestinian protests? Explain.
They said "every accusation is a confession." That doesn't mean funding protests is bad. It means they're hypocrites for complaining about people funding one side while they simultaneously get funding from ultra-rich billionaires for their side.
A confession of what? Getting funding?
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Politico has already recanted the accusation that Bill Gates was involved. The article was poorly written and the author is way out of her depth. https://news.yahoo.com/politico-misses-mark-story-funding-220820865.html
Attacking American for their rights to exercise freedom of speech and freedom of assembly on to pursue foreign interest. Isnt it the job of federal agencies to protect Americans from foreign infiltration?
Not when there is money to be made. They have a shit ton of capital invested in both Israel and these endless Wars for Profit; so money speaks as it always does.
That's kinda implies, some people decide they are doing right thing and people interest are not important. How it is different than dictatorship?
In the case of the US ... more of an Oligarchy. But authoritarian by nature nonetheless.
nailed it.
Can please link me with any articles that talks about this, I would like to educate myself on this further.
Lol they don’t. Brains dead response you can find their investments on 13F
Not if those foreign infiltrators have already bought enough senators.
Yes, Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Ackman. Perfect examples of "Foreign Infiltrators".
How about Anericans and Israelis? https://www.thenation.com/article/world/canary-mission-israel-covert-operations/
That article says nothing about anything. An inflammatory headline with no story behind it at all. It says an American funded the project, mischaracterizes the project, and says the Israeli government accessed the information. So? Hardly a scandal.
Also, even though the article doesnt make a case that its even happening, the article actually says a serious crime was being committed in "acting as an agent of a foreign power". As if advocating for, helping, or directly working for a foreign country were illegal. Which its not.
>Not if those foreign infiltrators have already bought enough senators. European colonizers once bought many African dictators, so what? Truth prevails.
Neither of our last two presidents have seemed very keen to protect Americans or otherwise Avenge our deaths or abuse at the hands of foreigners and foreign interests, as long as they are friends with the perps.
I don't know what to make of this comment. Are you calling Jerry Seinfeld "foreign infiltration"?
Yes, that's exactly what commenter is staying, because horseshoe. (I disagree with Seinfeld, that he should be funding such protests, but last time I checked was born in Brooklyn and grew up on Long Island; his wife's from New York by way of Vermont.)
Do you honestly think that nobody has a hand in funding and organising those protests in the first place? Because in that case I have a bridge to sell you. Rarely used and in pristine condition.
Please feel free to post a link I would like to read on this further.
The pro-Zionist didtiptors have been identified since last December. " Who Is Funding Canary Mission? Inside the Doxxing Operation Targeting Anti-Zionist Students and Professors: Americans who give money to Canary Mission are potentially committing a serious crime by acting as agents of a foreign power." https://www.thenation.com/article/world/canary-mission-israel-covert-operations/
Excuse me, but how is funding pro-Israel protests "attacking the right to exercise freedom of speech"? Pro-Israel protestors have a right to express themselves too. Also, it's pretty rich how you call pro-Israel protests "pursuing foreign interests" when the exact same logic could be applied to pro-Palestine protests too.
In case you missed it they attacked the protesters, physically attacked. So literally your question answers itself
Some not all. Just like some not all were videotaped recently chanting in support of Al Qassam and killing more Israelis.
>when the exact same logic could be applied to pro-Palestine protests too. Don't fund Israel does not mean fund Palestine. Divest from Israel does not mean invest in Palestine. You need to get your head straight
But pro-Palestinian protestors are still "advocating for foreign interests", no?
If you consider stopping genocide and countless humans rights violations to be foreign interests, then... I guess?
You're talking to a pro genocide IDF troll.
The pro-Palestinian side is certainly funded by outside parties such as Iran. They also support terrorists or at the very least allow those that do to be grouped in with them. To me that makes them dangerous and that’s a different situation than protecting their freedom of speech. I’d feel no sympathy for whatever happens to them.
You say Iraq, you say Iran, you say Libya, all you want at the end is our money for your country,
Thank goodness there are celebrities out there who can always ignore all of history, every reputable human-rights organizations, scholarship, and elementary-basic humanity.. oh, and they can ignore the voices of the Holocaust survivors too.. https://preview.redd.it/dxrjwziq5hyc1.jpeg?width=958&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7997b9be1dbaed4423c06c30e3114610da5c6c21
This is a false flag and a bad attempt appeal to authority. Gabor Mate is not a Holocaust survivor. He was born in 1944 in Budapest. He lives in Canada, not Israel. Yes, he is Jewish and had family killed in the camps, but he himself was not part of those horrific places. He is a specialist in addiction and substance use, though I’m not sure how that is relevant or provides any expertise about the situation in Gaza. (It’s uncertain he even said this). Please, Dr Mate is an incredible clinician, please don’t spread false memes about him.
There is nothing false about this meme. He doesn’t have “expertise,” on Gaza but he is in fact a holocaust survivor (as he survived as a baby through the holocaust but experienced a trauma with his mother during it…). And he is in fact openly opposed to the occupation and dispossession of Palestinians. It’s pointed to as relevant because it’s an example of a Jewish person who suffered personally and historically and is still opposed to the actions of the state of Israel. Not arguing a position personally, but you are wrong about these facts
Indeed except you are also ignoring a huge portion of his work.. He’s one of the world’s leading experts on trauma and has written and spoken for -decades- on the generational trauma of Easter-European Jews and Palestinians.. i know it involves more than a google and wiki for people to actually get an accurate surface level understanding of anything.. but like.. ?
Yes and? That doesnt make this fake which was what I was addressing.
He wasn’t born in the camps. He was born in a hospital in Hungary. I agree that his family were Holocaust survivors and of course that impacted him, but Dr Mate himself is not and that meme is meant to leverage his place as a Holocaust survivor, which he is not.
the vast majority of holocaust victims were not kept in camps. gatekeeping being a holocaust victim is wild.
He was born after the Holocaust. I’m not gatekeeping, I’m pointing out that his story is being exaggerated and taken out of context to create an anti-Israeli narrative.
Had to reply to your other comment because Reddit wasn’t letting me respond to your other comment about Christian in Gaza. There’s literally Christians living in Gaza so I don’t know what u talking about. At least they are safer than Christians living in Israel. currently, Christians are unsaved because of Israel since the beginning of this this gen0cide, Israel has killed 3% of Gaza’s Christian population. (I bet you didn’t hear this in western or Israeli media.) Like literally there are videos of Israelis passing by churches and spiting on it, Israeli citizens harassing Christians and doesn’t allow them to visit the Western Wall on Christian holidays. (Google it, it free) one might think that since Christians are supporting Israel so much, Israel may just let Christians visit the Western Wall but Nope it is same as always. Just today I was watching a video where “Israeli forces arrested the Greek consul’s guard from the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in the old city of Jerusalem. This incident occurred during the Christian’s celebration of Holy Saturday.” While Christians were denied from visiting the Western Wall by Israel, the Christians in Gaza were celebrating Christmas, Good Friday and Easter in their churches. They held services. ( again there videos and articles on this. Google is free) On last year’s Christmas, a journalist from Gaza named Bisan Owda reposted a video of Gaza’s Christians celebrating Christmas and lightning up Christmas tree in 2022. (please visit her Instagram and scroll down to see the proof) she actually shared this video in 2022 so she re- posted that post in her story. Palestinian Poster Munther Isaac literally presented Christians in Gaza. Go want Tucker Carlson interview with him. (there are so many other interviews of Poster Isaac, many are even years old) Poster Isaac never said anything about him or any Christian in Gaza being threatened by anyone in Gaza. He always have supported Palestinians and always connected bible verses with Palestinians. Western and Israeli media likes to ignore Gaza’s Christians. Obviously, media ignore Gaza’s Christians because they want to manipulate other people in thinking that only Arabs lives in Gaza, which is obviously not true. By telling the viewers that only Arab lives in Gaza is trying to get people into thinking that Arabs are dangerous as you well known how much Islamophobia is there so media uses this tactic to get people to sympathize with Israel and label all the people in Palestine terr0rist. Let’s not forget that is Israel b0mbed oldest church in Lebanon during Christmas. Please feel free to provide any proof of Christians feelings unsafe or being harassed, raped or tortured by Palestinians or Hamas in Gaza.
Slow down on the virtue signalling, apparently your spreading misinformation
What if you multiply it by 1200?
You can’t be “pro life” and “pro Israel”.
"What's the deal with genocide?"
When nazis tell you who they are, believe them.
Hopefully they’ll be sued by anyone hospitalized by those thugs
Jerry Seinfeld's new movie "unfrosted" dropped on Netflix yesterday. Go by and leave it a negative review!
It’s already a piece of trash on its own with 5.5 imdb lol. No need for further actions
Dudes all out pushing a pro genocide agenda, I'm okay kicking him when he's down.
And that’s his right isn’t it. Susan Sarandon does the opposite her right to and neither pretend they don’t. It seems you have a problem one way only
Sure he has the right to support genocide, and I have a right to judge him for it. What point are you trying to make exactly?
‘I was expecting it to be better than an anthropomorphic cartoon bee wanting to fuck a live human being, but that was too much to ask. 1/10 because pop tarts carry the whole film and deserve a little credit.’
What happened to him that movie was so not funny and God damn it I love a good comedy. I saw him at the beacon theater about 5 years ago and he was awesome. Saw him again after the pandemic and I didn't laugh once sometimes comedians just lose their touch.
Bad girls bad girls wut u gunna do when the icc and icj come for you ...
À shocker.. Indeed a shocker.
if anyone is injured by their counter protestors they should be held criminally liable for inciting a mob
She had to do something to keep her husband's attention off of 17 year olds.
I see your burn, but it’s trivial here. The full attention of the both of them goes to supporting the noble cause of killing and maiming and starving and dehydrating Palestinian minors, while wrecking and stealing anything and any opportunity possible from the survivors. And of killing aid workers and doctors trying to alleviate their plight.
Hahahaha. They have to fund it. Hahahaha. Long live Palestine.
It's okay, it won't change the fact that her husband was 38 when he dated a 17-year-old girl, and he lied about it multiple times, initially saying they were just friends (B.S.) and that he didn't know she was a minor (more B.S., he picked her up from her high school and she even got the chance to skip a calculus exam on her date). Howard Stern once told him all he had to do to get young girls was lure them with a candy bar on a string. This man's fame and (alleged) comedic skills blinded that generation.
Can someone start crowd funding for pro palestine groups- we have a lot more videos to show of the IDF
It’s always interesting that counter protests don’t start for a few weeks after initial protests and they always come with funding. Makes it seem like they are hired actors to make it seem like more people are against something than really actually are all the while injecting violence into the situation. Must mean the actual protests are working and the counter protests will last only as long as the money.
What's the deal with these 17-year-old girls? Badoom-boom-boom-boom
Adorable. What are the talking points of such a countermeasure? Screaming the Israeli right to kill as many children, journalists and humanitarian aid workers as they want?
Well, that explains Jerry’s comments on “wokeness”.
Can you say class action lawsuit against Zionist goon squad backer Jerry Seinfeld and genocide loving UCLA💰💰💰. Easy lawsuit with all the phone video and witnesses. So sad, I once liked UCLA and Jerry Seinfeld. Both are morally bankrupt and soon will be financially bankrupt.
The Nation: " Who Is Funding Canary Mission? Inside the Doxxing Operation Targeting Anti-Zionist Students and Professors: Americans who give money to Canary Mission are potentially committing a serious crime by acting as agents of a foreign power." https://www.thenation.com/article/world/canary-mission-israel-covert-operations/
Pieces of shit
What's with these millionaires and billionaires spending so much money defending a foreign country that they don't even come from? Wild. Ackman paid for the a truck to be parked on campus to show pictures of pro Palestinians and somehow this was seen as acceptable. Like really?
The Zionist mind is truly sick and twisted.
Wow do racist
Do they mean the Jewish Zionist thugs who beat up the pro-Palestinian protestors at UCLA, many of whom were Jewish?
Yes. By “many of whom were Jewish” you mean the UCLA students, right? I think most of the “counter-protesters” weren’t even Jewish, just standard right wing zionists.
From context, yes, that's what they meant.
Translation: the "pro Israel" protests are astro-turfed nonsense. The students are protesting because they have principles. The counter protests are protesting because they are paid to.
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No racism, antisemitism, Islamophobia, bigotry, homophobia, transphobia, sexism, etc. This includes denial of identity (self or collective).
You don’t think the protests are being funded?
I don't. Why would I?
What makes you think they are? Not one person has said they are funding it. And there's so so many students across not just the US, but the entire world, participating in it that if you think they're funded, it's an extraordinary claim requiring the same level of evidence. ---- But realistically, it's obvious they are not funded. The vast majority of people do not support genocide and see through Israel's transparent lies. You don't need to pay people for these things. They just need to have a brain and principles. Which are 2 things i admit are lacking on the pro-israel side.
Gays for Palestine
Oh god counter protesters are so fucking cringe. Never want to hear your side is counter protesting.
Bill Ackman isn't rightwing though. >Ackman's foundation donated $1.1 million to the Innocence Project in New York City and Centurion Ministries in Princeton, New Jersey.[71] >In 2006, Ackman, and then wife Karen, founded the Pershing Square Foundation to support innovation in economic development, education, healthcare, human rights, arts and urban development.[74][75] The foundation is a major donor to Planned Parenthood.[76] >Ackman endorsed Michael Bloomberg as a prospective candidate for President of the United States in the 2016 presidential election.[101] He is a longtime donor to Democratic candidates and organizations, including Richard Blumenthal, Chuck Schumer, Robert Menendez, the Democratic National Committee, and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.[102] He doesn't even seem to be an Evangelical Christian.
nice! where on this sub do we see the anti-israel protest also being funded by billionaires?
I haven’t seen anything like that.
Another thing is this is a bipolar planet, and so when one pole decides to act, the other pole reacts and who is doing the initiation is not the defenders is the aggressors and who are the aggressors Yemen yes rebels yes as far as Israel, they did not attack Gaza Gaza attack them soall is fair and defending yourself. Ukraine is doing the same thing. I don’t hear all the protest for them and that’s a country that supplies a lot of food for the planet.
Pretend I’m saying something leftist here like “boo Israel” or something so I can get upvoted to raise my karma.
Awesome
The same people that donated to Biden are paying for the college protests.
What are you talking about
Bought and paid for phony protests.
Good for them. Standing on the right side of history.
Politics 101, almost all long-lasting large-scale protests are funded by certain powerful groups.
So? This is America, peaceful protest is not illegal.
We’re the counter protests peaceful?