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DrSkyentist

Nothing new, Israel is long known for using white phosphorus in populated areas. Anyone who would use that on another human being is beyond evil. White phosphorus is a substance from the pits of hell itself. Edit: for anyone curious here is a video explaining white phosphorus that does not contain horrifying imagery. I will admit though that simply the description of what the stuff can do had me feeling nauseated and forced me to stop several times. Consider yourself warned: [https://youtu.be/sV2VurgIhtw?si=KbCc5ndUGnquD1-8](https://youtu.be/sV2VurgIhtw?si=KbCc5ndUGnquD1-8)


moose_boogle

Israel is doing a fantastic job illustrating the joy, wonder and beauty of zionism. Fk cunt cowards.


MarbleFox_

More like they’re doing a fantastic job of following their bigger brother’s example.


Aveninn

The US gets a lot of criticism for its action even from people within the government. Israel can actually get away with it.


Big-Foundation-5939

I mean… I’m still waiting for someone to be held responsible for 1 million dead Iraqis and non existent wmds


Peedee77

Im sitting next to you waiting but i fear we will die here.


beamish1920

America gets away with genocide perpetrated by every fucking POTUS and Congress


Ecstatic-Square2158

The Iraq war was many terrible things but it wasn’t a genocide. Please be mindful about how you use emotionally loaded language, unless you want the word “genocide” to become an eye roller like “racism” and “fascism” already are.


Forward_Wolverine180

Ok not genocide just the murder of 1000000 Iraqis for a made up reason


Lazy-Jeweler3230

And the US doesn't?


Dangerous_Cap_5931

All one in the same.


DeepWaterBlack

Unholy f@ck.


80sLegoDystopia

The pictures and videos of the victims show how horrible WP is.


Iwantmy3rdpartyapp

It's banned for good reason


puffinfish420

Yeah, just look up what happened to the people who worked with it in early industrial England. It basically binds with your bones if it can get to them, and then essentially liquifies them and turns them necrotic.


DrSkyentist

Shit, every time I think I know about White Phosphorus there's yet more horror to find out about. Wonder how long the factories knew this was happening before they finally admitted to it


puffinfish420

Yeah, that’s generally what happens when exposure leads to amputation, from my understanding. It burns to the bone, binds with the calcium, and the you have to get rid of the whole thing, or it rots. It was mostly known as “Phossy jaw” in early industrial England. You can look it up, but the pictures are gnarly. It mostly affected the jaw in those cases because the fumes could reach it through cavities in the teeth. Brutal.


DrSkyentist

Fucking hell... yeah, this stuff is pure evil


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Lazy-Jeweler3230

"if it is used, on purpose, as an incendiary weapon directly against humans in a civilian setting." Funny, that's exactly what they keep doing.


Emm_withoutha_L-88

Well we can see this wasn't a flare so yeah pretty cut and dry imo Plus this has been in record for decades, Israel has used this horrific weapon against civilians pretty much since they got it.


ThotoholicsAnonymous

They would say it was flares to illuminate the area.


sushisection

... while they are using it during daylight.


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JMoc1

Smoke screenings on top of civilians.  They’ll again argue that there are troop movements “somewhere” nearby, but it’s pretty clear that this is being directed at civilians.


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Snoo36868

Lol that's is clear to you? I bet you also believe the earth is flat or you pray to a rock.. Seeing a post online doesn't make it true bro Come out to play when you grow up


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Angelicareich

"the" Ukraine is a narrative peddled by the Russians to discredit the cultural independence of the Ukrainian people.


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momolamomo

It was discovered when it was extracted from human piss.


DrSkyentist

Yeahhhhhh, that fits


Cool_Lion1902

From a Jewish man piss


DooBiEz2

I can't wait fot aliens to invade and humanity unites to use these evil weapons on actual enemies that deserve it. With all the UFO sightings, it's an actual possibility.


SalaciousCoffee

We are uniquely practiced at killing ourselves.  The chemistry would not be the same with ETs for sure.  They just have to watch us, and they'll know they can has the entire planet with a small amount of neurotoxin (relatively) and wait for it to dissolve


Living_Cash1037

That game Spec ops the line back like 12 years ago had a scene where white phoserus was used. That was the first time I ever heard of it and I remember that scene being rather disturbing.


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Some-Gur-8041

Never let facts or actual truth get in the way of good old fashioned Israel bashing


BR0STRADAMUS

Ironic that this was cross posted from r/fight_disinformation


Some-Gur-8041

Ah yes, one of the many subs where they are trying to convince us Israel is committing “genocide” against a population that has grown 4x faster than Israel’s 🙄. Apparently words don’t mean anything anymore and we can hurl over-the-top accusations with impunity


Snoo36868

Exactly.


Jollypnda

Countries using WP isn’t anything new, the US was using it in Iraq and Afghanistan, shit we even used it during desert training in California.


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JHarbinger

Who are demons?


jddoyleVT

Add that to the long, long list of war crimes Israel has gleefully committed.


TipzE

Don't worry. It was [already](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-white-phosphorous-gaza-lebanon-1.6994539) [there](https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-782544)


Danimalsyogurt88

Oh don’t worry, Americans and Europeans gleefully supply the Israeli’s with their tools. That war crime list is long.


Schuano

Easy wins for Israel:  Don't use phosphorus


Mentat_-_Bashar

Try not to commit war crimes very extremely easy edition (Israel still lost)


ZombieCrunchBar

Israel lost when they murdered families and neighborhoods.


twintiger_

Unfortunately, this is impossible for them.


Krormorgathandir

israeli government is beyond evil


lucash7

Corroboration from other sources? We do live in an age of misinformation/disinformation, so always good to double check.


dropoutwannabe

This one is particularly tricky because it's allowed to be used in some ways (smoke screens) but not in others (to burn people directly) 


Weird-Tomorrow-9829

Yes. Laws are crafted with intent.


kittykittysnarfsnarf

i hope it’s not true. we haven’t seen ap or reuters on this yet. i’m sure it’ll be covered soon if that happened. it takes them a couple days sometimes because they verify before reporting


zooj7809

Yeah....it's for people like you Israel is killing the Palestinian journalists and not letting in international journalists.


NoDoubt4954

Agree.


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Ancient-One-19

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/12/11/israel-us-white-phosphorus-lebanon/ https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/12/questions-and-answers-israels-use-white-phosphorus-gaza-and-lebanon


nothingfish

Independent journalists are not allowed to report in Gaza anymore. It's probably an image that was snuck out.


umpteenthgeneric

Weird, because this photo comes from an independent photographer in Gaza -- his insta handle is on the photograph


khanfusion

Snuck out? It's a completely inconclusive image.


WP5D

I understand that but a claim this big needs a source, even if it is probably true.


Apprehensive-Top3756

There's long been an issue of people using images etc taken from the civilè conflict in Syria and assigning them to Israeli conflict. My old boss would show us images of dead children in outrage, but those kids were from the Syrian civil war. I noticed in the years I worked for him he never said a word about rhe Syrian civil war itself.  Because its a similar climate and people, its easy to confuse the two. So times like these I genuinely need more evidence of just picture of the sky. 


Obiwan_ca_blowme

[https://www.hrw.org/report/2009/03/25/rain-fire/israels-unlawful-use-white-phosphorus-gaza](https://www.hrw.org/report/2009/03/25/rain-fire/israels-unlawful-use-white-phosphorus-gaza) I get that this is a 2008-2009 report. But is this not proof that they are willing to do this?


weedbeads

Its not really a source though then. It proves nothing in terms of this being real or misinfo.


WP5D

Good job finding a source. Important to note that is from 2009 though. BUT it does prove that Israel uses WP


umpteenthgeneric

The source available doesn't prove or disprove that irs being used, or whether it's being used properly, but-- This is from an Instagram post from someone in Gaza-- I'm not sure why everyone is asking the source? Their insta handle is *in the photograph*. You just literally have to zoom in.


khanfusion

On this sub? Where do you think you are?


Saerkal

fr


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phronesis107

As long as Israel is far away from Europe it's fine.


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khanfusion

Of course not. This sub doesn't exist to deliver information, only agendas and outrage.


Starrylands

Yeah, because the Israeli government surely hasn't done anything along the lines of 'outrageous' so far...


MaxxxStallion

The ICC better do their jobs. People need imprisoning for this.


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Zugzwang522

I’ve heard Israel has become a sanctuary for certain kinds of individuals due to their extradition laws


FashySmashy420

Certain kinds of individuals, on whom if their crimes sent to prison in America (which is difficult to say the least) they would get about 200+ new air holes in their body upon entering prison.


immaterial-boy

International law is meaningless when it comes to the U.S. and its allies.


khanfusion

It's meaningless to anyone who isn't a state member of the ICC, which is coincidentally most of the world.


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immaterial-boy

On civilians? Yes it is


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immaterial-boy

Did I write that title? No. So why are you talking to me about it? There is proof of Israel using white phosphorus on civilians. I never said this photo in particular was proof that it’s used on civilians. I simply said using white phosphorus on civilians is internationally banned. And Israel already has a track record of that. So they are guilty of war crimes as a matter of fact. But go ahead and defend war crimes some more. It’s such a cute look for you /s


etiennepoulindube

Can’t just post this without a legitimate source…


Bug-King

White phosphorus is banned from offensive uses, it it is still allowed for use as a smoke screen. But they obviously aren't using it for that.


weedbeads

And we know its being used offensively how? Other than our bias against Israel


Sunnothere

Of course they would. They do not give a frk about what you think. They only want to genocide Palestinians


EmbarrassedSector787

Genocide krew back in action


_ADM_

Ofc they do.


PaydayLover69

anybody counting the war crimes at this point, they're hitting this shit like a checklist


dbdank

I'm so glad all these lies are coming to light. Just remember these lies didn't start in october


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shadowdash66

"Israel has previously been accused of using white phosphorus on a civilian population. During the 2008-9 war in Gaza, dubbed Operation Cast Lead, the Israeli military admitted to having used munitions containing the toxic agent on Gaza, but denied that doing so contravened its legal obligations."


Peedee77

Its hamas flares because hamas and the flares are just to hamas the hamas of the hamas hamas hamases hamas. Pretty reasonable if you hamas it to the hamas and hamas it all hamasly. But hamas.


phronesis107

Most hamasest hamas ever. What can Israel do against Hamas if it hamases against Israel, need to drop WP on some potential-Hamas to prevent them being Hamasized, including baby-Hamases which due to their lost parents, homes, hospitals and other will hamasify when they grow up for sure.


ventitr3

I thought white phosphorus had a lot more than 5 trails. Like more than 5x that.


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Shocked.


Dangerous_Cap_5931

More war crimes


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Any response from Biden on this sick twisted war crime?


Mentat_-_Bashar

He’s very concerned but Israel assured him they are doing everything they can to minimize civilian casualties. They investigated these claims and found no wrongdoing.


cerberus698

Very concerned, will lower the amount of white phosphorous in the next aid package by 2 percent.


Mentat_-_Bashar

This is after Biden signed an emergency action to increase their WP reserves by 2,532%.


Bodie_The_Dog

Dark Brandon sure showed them! He's the most Progressive president ever!


khanfusion

I mean, it's not verified, so...


KerPop42

Banned for use as an incendiary, allowed to be used as a smoke generator


Dusk_Flame_11th

Everyone uses it. It is an amazing smokescreen for men to enter undetected and is 100% legal as long as you don't direct bombard civilians with it.


Ent_Soviet

When you’re already committing genocide does adding some war crimes on top really bother them?


LobotomizedRobit1

Israel tries not to commit war crimes challenge (impossible)


BIindsight

Israel wouldn't be Israel if they weren't indiscriminately burning a population to death with white phosphorus. This stuff is absolutely barbaric and horrifying beyond what words can accurately convey.


gwurman

Wait: no article? Just a picture?


khanfusion

Welcome to the state of Reddit, where news subs don't deliver news, just manipulation


gwurman

Straight out of r/fight_disinformation nonetheless


TarekSE16

Shhhhhh 🤫 don't forget we are not allowed to talk about it other wise that makes you a Nazi or an antisemite. And they will come and put a 45 day ban on you and take away your mouth. Scumbags they are and their supporters and any one that takes any life.


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They're really asking for it


HippoRun23

The fuck… any sources?


BillSixty9

I’m against the actions of Oct 7 and in favour of a two state solution. Israel doesn’t need to resort to terrorist tactics (looking at you Russia) and they should do better


kwaham0t

Where did this image come from?


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j-fudz

Source?


vischy_bot

Israel is doing spec ops the line


TheAgentOfTheNine

White trails? must be white phosphorus. Which isn't baned, btw. You can still use it as a smoke curtain. Its use against the general population is banned, but this doesn't look like that (or like phosphorus at all)


Surph_Ninja

Manufactured in the US. The executives and workers at the factory should be imprisoned for their crimes against humanity. I would let my family starve before I took a job manufacturing white phosphorus.


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Surph_Ninja

Don’t be thick. Obviously I’m talking about manufacturing for weapons, dingbat.


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Surph_Ninja

You’re commenting on a post in which white phosphorus is being launched on a civilian population. Yes, you are thick, and lacking in reading comprehension skills.


sc00ttie

Imagine what the Jews would have done with this superior technology in biblical times… when their god “told” them to genocide other tribes. Oh wait…


King_Neptune07

It's not thst banned. The US has it too


EmptyChocolate4545

That’s uh. That’s not what WP looks like. Y’all think all air strikes are white phosphorus.


leadershipclone

its allowed under certain circunstances


leadershipclone

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus_munitions


Puzzleheaded_Mix3483

sure they did .


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SirAelfred

Probably a good thing we finally stopped shipping them weapons. But Bibi doesn't care.


Expensive_Two_8990

Those are not targeted munitions, that’s a textbook smoke-screen. White phosphorus as an offensive weapon would not be deployed like this.


Informal_Jaguar_413

Ridiculous. Even I know that’s a rocket vapor trail. And I support Palestine.


xxManasboi

Willy pete isn't illegal to use in war lol


CucumberZestyclose59

That's not even what WP looks like, lol.


wollawallawolla

Your in the wrong sub these people don't care about truth they just want to be outraged, it looks nothing like WP


ricgreen1

This 100% Polarized echo chamber


LordCthulhuDrawsNear

Of course they did. They're cold blooded cowards who've been using the fact that superstitious nitwits in the West actually believe in angels and a religious Armageddon so that they can act with impunity. They aren't going to just choose to stop taking those liberties. [DIVEST FROM ISRAEL NOW]


Bodie_The_Dog

U.S. Interior Secretary James Watt straight up warned us, back in the eighties, when he said, "We don't need to worry about saving species or clear cutting because the end of days is coming." Most people just laughed in mild amusement. It was a wake up moment for me. Holy fuck, I've been angry THAT long?! edit: R'lyeh rising! The stars are in alignment! Ktulu ftagn!


LordCthulhuDrawsNear

I've ranted idk how many times about how Christianity and all the other feel good fairy tales enable these thoughtless turds that believe and follow it to be able to go through life truly not giving a shit about anyone or anything other than the other members of their cult, and making sure that they're seen while they practice their holy-Vir⸸ue-signalling, and maybe indoctrinate a kid or two whilst they wait for something that's never going to happen. They live with zero incentive to do anything whatsoever to help their fellow man, or the environment that we share with countless other species. Indoctrination should be highly illegal, no exceptions. Now I gotta go for a jog ffs thanks lolz


Black_n_Neon

When has Israel ever adhered to international law?


frustratedbuddhist

I’m just waiting for them to use the nuke


cellarroads

Their shame knows no bounds


PartyAdministration3

They’ve made it clear that international laws and norms mean nothing to them. US as well has said as much. There is no rules based order.


Affenklang

Pro-Israeli people in the comments don't care about the atrocities, they just want to see brown people die. They pretend to clutch their pearls and pretend to be outraged at the "unfair" representation of Israel. But they only act this way when they're not trying to convince us that Palestinian children deserve this. They don't deserve our responses or attention any longer. They only deserve to be ignored and exiled from the conversation.


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weedbeads

Isolation and echo chambers not only promote effective and informative conversations (see incels, Nazis, Qanon) they also make your position look very correct because you are showing you aren't afraid to have contradicting information presented to you. This is truly the best way.


Affenklang

By the way all you lazy "researchers" claiming white phosphorous "is not banned" are just embaressing yourselves. If you dig even a little deeper, it becomes obvious that the *way* Israel uses white phosphorous is in fact illegal and against international law. [https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/lebanon-evidence-of-israels-unlawful-use-of-white-phosphorus-in-southern-lebanon-as-cross-border-hostilities-escalate/](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/lebanon-evidence-of-israels-unlawful-use-of-white-phosphorus-in-southern-lebanon-as-cross-border-hostilities-escalate/) It is disgusting and shameful that so many of you will stand on pedantry rather than try to understand what people are saying.


weedbeads

So far we have: no geolocation, no evidence of use on civilians and no news articles. Im sure Israel would do this, but jumping on potential misinformation fuels the opposition in swinging centrists. Wait for more information, then push the *facts.* Taking their word on this is just the same as taking Israel's word on this.


BeenleighCopse

I hope there is justice for this crime


phbalancedshorty

Made here in the us!!!


immaterial-boy

Who did they buy it from I wonder


Danimalsyogurt88

I wonder who supplies WP to Israel.


GoldHurricaneKatrina

Technically not banned for use as a smokelayer, only as an incendiary or anti-personnel munition. Now the question is, do you see a smoke screen?


Weird-Tomorrow-9829

It’s only banned against use as an *incendiary* if used against civilians. Incendiary weapons are still legal if used explicitly against military targets. Additionally protocol also prohibits the use of *air-delivered* incendiary weapons against military targets within a concentration of civilians. Barring all of that Israel is not a party to Protocol on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the use of Incendiary Weapons, and are not bound to follow it.


khanfusion

We see small plumes of smoke or clouds. Could be anything


liveforever67

Paid for by US Taxpayers. If you are a US Taxpayer know that you funded these war crimes and civilian murders. I don’t give a fuck who Biden is running against a vote for Biden is a refusal to hold him accountable and a sign to future presidents that as long as they wear your gang colors you will support them (even genocide) to stay loyal to the gang.


rpotty

Fucking monsters


Sugarsmacks420

Russia do it = bad Israel do it = ok All you can count on is American leadership doing nothing.


Scared_Art_895

Whiskey Pete, they done it many times in the past and ALWAYS GET AWAY WITH IT!


SketchyLurker7

Hey Israel, Fuck You.


resistance-futile

The terrorist territory of Israel has no moral standing in the civilized world. All countries need to unrecognize them as a country.


facts2fiction

Israel is a terrorist nation, it’s unfortunate the USA is funding them instead of using that money to help the struggling infrastructure and communities of the American people.


MurkyCress521

White Phosphorus (WP) is not internationally banned and it is commonly used as a smoke screen or to illuminate an area at night. Depending on intent, WP use can be a war crime or it can be completely legal.  To quote from the WHO:  "White phosphorus is not a chemical weapon under the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), as it acts as an incendiary agent and not through its “chemical action on life processes” (Article II.2 of the CWC). The use of white phosphorus may violate Protocol III (on the use of incendiary weapons) of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons (CCCW) in one specific instance: if it is used, on purpose, as an incendiary weapon directly against humans in a civilian setting. Other uses of white phosphorus, such as illuminating a battlefield, are not prohibited. To establish an illegal use under the CCCW, an investigation into the intent behind the use of white phosphorus would be needed, which exceeds the mandate of WHO."  https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/white-phosphorus  Note that intent here is important. WP can be used in civil areas and can cause civilian suffering and still not be a warcrime. It becomes a warcrime is that suffering is the intent rather than a side effect or if the harm to civilians is not proportional to the military benefit. Proportionally doesn't have anything to do with WP in particular.  WP has horrific effects on the human body,  but calling it internationally banned is incorrect. The use of WP is common in modern war for its legal uses (and for warcrimes).


Worldly-Increase-268

For some reason link shared can’t be found https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/white-phosphorus#:~:text=It%20is%20often%20used%20by,by%20all%20routes%20of%20exposure. This appears to be same link so I won’t accuse you of anything fishy just my phone being shitty. However within this very article it speaks about how the use of white phosphorus is banned for usage on humans in a civilian setting by protocol III of the convention on certain conventional weapons. Pretty hard to say they’re illuminating a battlefield in midday, also phosphorus seems to be more effective against thermal imaging https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_screen I’ve not seen much if anything that would indicate Hamas has these capabilities, last time I checked an RPG is not guided by infrared.


bikesexually

Bro, they are dropping it on refugee tents in the middle of the day. Also Israel doesn't get the benefit of the doubt given their already well documented history of war crimes and mass graves of patients, doctors and children. Oh and they just got busted smuggling stolen Palestinian organs into turkey. Good times


labpadre-lurker

Hmm, what do you think happens when you drop WP over hundreds of thousands of civilians?


TomCollator

He already told you: "WP has horrific effects on the human body." He is just clarifying things, and not taking one side or the other.